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While reading the letters about biography and fiction I thought of
the book of stories by Angelica Bell Garnett. I bought and read
these stories only because they were by her. They complicate and
enrich one's sense of some of the people she lived her life with,
Duncan Grant in particular. I suppose I feel that she had a
right to this material, to embroidering and imagining it. They were
inside stories.<br>
Jean Mallinson<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/3/2015 2:56 PM, Catherine Hollis
wrote:<br>
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<div>I can think of at least four fictional versions of George
Mallory's life (with at least two films in production).
Tanis Rideout, Above All Things; Justin Go, The Steady
Running of the Hour; Dan Simmons, The Abominable. There's
also a theatrical script (the name of which escapes me just
now) about Mallory, Grant, and Vanessa Bell having some sort
of polymorphously romantic evening. And there's a
full-length fanfiction on Mallory with Virginia Woolf doing
tarot cards and Adrian saying "our plays are scrummy"
(whatever that means). Link to the Bloomsbury chapter here:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.everestdream.blogspot.com/2006/08/chapter-nine-bloomsbury-1911-1913.html">http://www.everestdream.blogspot.com/2006/08/chapter-nine-bloomsbury-1911-1913.html</a><br>
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I'd hate to think that untimely deaths lead to glamour and
hence the proliferation of bio-fictions, but Mallory -- like
Woolf -- seems to generate them. <br>
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Love this thread!<br>
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Catherine<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Sarah
M. Hall <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:smhall123@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">smhall123@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span>
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<div><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Indeed,
‘that queer
amalgamation of dream and reality, that perpetual
marriage of granite and
rainbow’, as one might say if one was a great
writer.</span></div>
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style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b>
Danell Jones <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net"
target="_blank">danelljones@bresnan.net</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
'Sarah M. Hall' <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:smhall123@yahoo.co.uk"
target="_blank">smhall123@yahoo.co.uk</a>>;
'Mark Hussey' <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net"
target="_blank">mhussey@verizon.net</a>>;
'Stuart N. Clarke' <<a
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href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com">stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com</a></a>>;
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Thursday, 3 September 2015, 15:16
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
RE: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the
desk(s) of VW<br>
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<div><span>Can I say how much I love
this list? Smart, generous,
well-informed, and just dang
funny! Thank you.</span></div>
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<div><span>As I work, I return from
time to time to this quote from
historian George Kenan. It is a
bit long, but so very thoughtful,
I think it is work sharing:</span></div>
<div><span> </span></div>
<div>“The truth is that the historian
is not a mere purveyor. He does not
stand entirely outside the
historical evidence he brings to
your attention. He stands in many
ways inside of it. He is himself in
many ways a part of it.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>True, he describes historical
events. And if he is a true
historian, he describes them as
accurately as they can be described
on the strength of the available
record. But he was not there. He
did not see these events with his
own eyes…and not having been there
and not having seen them, what does
he have to start with when he
envisages these events and portrays
them for us? He has, as a rule,
only the hieroglyphics of the
written word as preserved in
crumbling old documents, and
sometimes a few artifacts that have
survived the ravages of time and
neglect—perhaps even a portrait or a
drawing or, if he works in recent
history, a photograph or two. But
these evidences only hint at the
real story—they don’t tell it. It
is up to the historian to examine
them critically and imaginatively,
to select among them (for they are
often multitudinous in number), to
try to penetrate the reality behind
them, and to try to depict them in a
way that reveals their meaning. And
to accomplish this task, what does
he had to draw upon? Only what he
already has within him: his
knowledge, of course, of the
historical background, his level of
cultural sensitivity, his ability to
put the isolated bit of evidence
into the larger context, and, above
all, his capacity for insight and
empathy, his ability to identify
with the historical figures he
describes, his educated instinct for
what is significant and what is
not—in other words, his creative
imagination.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> What emerges from
this scrutiny is something that is,
of necessity, high subjective. It
is not, and cannot be, the absolute
and total truth. It is, if the
writer is a conscientious historian,
as close to the truth as he can
possibly make it. But it remains a
vision of the past—not the past in
its pure form (no one could ever
recreate that) but the past as one
man, or one man alone, is capable of
envisaging it, of depicting it. It
is perceived reality—reality in the
eyes of the beholder—the only kind
of reality that can have meaning for
us other human being and be useful
to us. That is why every work of
history—at least of narrative or
explanatory history—is at least as
revealing of the man who wrote it
and the period in which it was
written as it is of the people it
portrays and the époque in which
they lived. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>“Remarks Delivered at a Birthday
Party for the Slavic Division of the
New York Public Library “ 1987,
George F. Kennan </div>
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<div><span> </span></div>
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<div><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">
Sarah M. Hall [mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:smhall123@yahoo.co.uk"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:smhall123@yahoo.co.uk">smhall123@yahoo.co.uk</a></a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday,
September 03, 2015 3:22 AM<br
clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Mark Hussey <<a
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href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net">mhussey@verizon.net</a></a>>;
'Danell Jones' <<a
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href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net">danelljones@bresnan.net</a></a>>;
'Stuart N. Clarke' <<a
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href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com">stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com</a></a>>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf]
curiouser and curiouser: the
desk(s) of VW</span></div>
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<div>
<div style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt">Fictionalized
Danell: have you considered
crowdfunding?</span></div>
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<div
style="background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">
Mark Hussey <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net">mhussey@verizon.net</a></a>><br
clear="none">
<b>To:</b> 'Danell
Jones' <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net">danelljones@bresnan.net</a></a>>;
'Stuart N. Clarke'
<<a
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rel="nofollow"
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href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com">stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com</a></a>>;
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<b>Sent:</b>
Wednesday, 2 September
2015, 21:44<br
clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Vwoolf] curiouser and
curiouser: the desk(s)
of VW</span><span></span></div>
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<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span>Michael
Lackey’s new
listserv on
biofiction
(details of
which I posted
last week) and
his
forthcoming
book(s) on the
subject are
evidence of
growing
academic
interest in
these
questions. I
shall keep
working on my
fictionalized
Danell if I
see any money
in it! More
seriously, my
concern is how
the fictional
version of
Woolf so often
play into
existing
antagonistic
paradigms
promulgated by
laddish
novelists in
the UK and
other
Bloomsbury
bashers…</span></div>
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<div
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style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">
Danell Jones [<a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net">mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net</a></a>] <br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b>
Wednesday,
September 02,
2015 1:54 PM<br
clear="none">
<b>To:</b>
'Mark Hussey';
'Stuart N.
Clarke'; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a></a><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b>
RE: [Vwoolf]
curiouser and
curiouser: the
desk(s) of VW</span><span></span></div>
</div>
</div>
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<div>
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<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span>I
love it! Now
I’m dying to
know how did I
get to the
penthouse?
Where do I
keep my opium?
The Des Moines
thing was
clearly a
misprint in
the <i>Register</i>.
</span><span
style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#2e74b5">J</span><span>
</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span>More
seriously, I
am writing a
biography of a
African
Edwardian
living in
London and am
working very,
very hard to
ground
everything in
fact, even
though I am
dramatizing
some scenes.
It is an
interesting
process. The
whole genre of
creative
nonfiction is
exciting,
complex,
challenging.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span>I’m
always really
interested
hearing
people’s
thoughts about
where the
boundaries are
in historical
novels,
creative
nonfiction,
and even
sometimes,
history. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
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style="background:white"><span> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span>Thanks!</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span>Danell</span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
Mark Hussey [<a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net">mailto:mhussey@verizon.net</a></a>] <br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b>
Wednesday,
September 02,
2015 10:48 AM<br
clear="none">
<b>To:</b>
'Danell Jones'
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net">danelljones@bresnan.net</a></a>>; 'Stuart N. Clarke' <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com">stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com</a></a>>; <a
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rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu"
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<b>Subject:</b>
RE: [Vwoolf]
curiouser and
curiouser: the
desk(s) of VW</span><span></span></div>
</div>
</div>
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<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span>“Danell
Jones, a zoo
keeper from
Des Moines
with a secret
opium habit
and a penchant
for fast cars,
leaned out of
her penthouse
window one
snowy morning
and ….”</span></div>
</div>
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<div
style="background:white"><span> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span>I
think, to
paraphrase
Woolf, there
are many
varieties of
“truth” (just
as there are
many varieties
of error…).
Brenda
Silver’s <i>Virginia
Woolf Icon</i>
is instructive
here. I
agree, it is a
great
conversation!</span></div>
</div>
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<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span>mark</span></div>
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style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">
Vwoolf [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu">mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a></a>] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Danell
Jones<br
clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b>
Tuesday,
September 01,
2015 9:54 AM<br
clear="none">
<b>To:</b>
'Stuart N.
Clarke'; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a></a><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Vwoolf]
curiouser and
curiouser: the
desk(s) of VW</span><span></span></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span>As
someone who
has
fictionalized
Woolf, may I
defend
creative
writers by
suggesting
that Woolf
quite liked
the “truth” of
fiction? “I
prefer, where
truth is
important,”
she wrote, “to
write
fiction.” </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span>Her
“true” story
of the <i>Dreadnought</i>
Hoax, for
example,
contains a
good deal of
fiction.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span>This
is a great
conversation!</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span>Danell</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span> </span></div>
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<div
style="background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
Vwoolf [<a
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rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu">mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a></a>] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Stuart
N. Clarke<br
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<b>Sent:</b>
Tuesday,
September 01,
2015 5:04 AM<br
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<b>To:</b> <a
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href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu"
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<b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Vwoolf]
curiouser and
curiouser: the
desk(s) of VW</span><span></span></div>
</div>
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<div>
<div
style="background:white"><span> </span></div>
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<div
style="background:white"><span>See
VW Letters
#264, 270,
271.</span></div>
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style="background:white"><span> </span></div>
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<div
style="background:white"><span>Stuart</span></div>
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<div
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style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
href="mailto:smhall123@yahoo.co.uk"
title="smhall123@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">Sarah M. Hall</a> </span><span></span></div>
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Re: [Vwoolf]
curiouser and
curiouser: the
desk(s) of VW</span><span></span></div>
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<div
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style="font-size:10.0pt">I've contacted Priya Parmar to ask about the
source for the
table
'incident' and
she says:</span><span></span></div>
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<div
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style="font-size:10.0pt">The incident with the table is definitely
rooted in
historical
fact. It was
valuable and
she did ask
Violet for it
and appalled
her family. I
think it comes
from a letter
from Vanessa
Bell. It may
be mentioned
in a letter of
Virginia's as
well. I do
not think it
pops up in
Lytton
Strachey's
correspondence.
I wish I had
my notes! The
dates I know
are accurate.</span><span></span></div>
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<div
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style="font-size:10.0pt">I am not sure if that helps! I have finally
stored my
research notes
in America and
feel a bit
bereft that I
do not have
them to hand!
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<div
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style="font-size:10.0pt">Obviously in a novel, the author will explore
and speculate
on people's
emotions
('particular
favourite',
'thundered
in'), which
can lead to
difficulties
if readers
take it at
face value.
Also, when the
(non-Woolfian)
reader passes
on their
interpretation
of the events,
they add their
own layer of
emotion
('predatory',
'demanding',
'heirloom',
'horribly
embarrassed').
In fact, it
has been
filtered
through three
people by the
time it gets
to us; not
that I am
questioning
your
interpretation
of your
colleague's
words, Leslie.
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<div
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style="font-size:10.0pt">But you're right, Mark. We can't help readers
misinterpreting
fiction as
fact; any more
than we can
help people
believing
uncorroborated
'facts' they
read in a
non-fiction
book or a
newspaper,
which it seems
to me are more
dangerous and
inexcusable.</span><span></span></div>
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Mark Hussey
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<b>To:</b>
'Leslie
Hankins' <<a
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<b>Sent:</b>
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Re: [Vwoolf]
curiouser and
curiouser: the
desk(s) of VW</span><span></span></div>
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we need to
institute a
fact checking
website to
counter the
endless flow
of
misinformation
coming from
novelists and
tv series
writers,
film-makers
and others who
prefer
fictional
versions of VW
et al. to
anything based
on the
historical
record!</span></div>
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Vwoolf [<a
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<b>On Behalf
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<b>Subject:</b>
[Vwoolf]
curiouser and
curiouser: the
desk(s) of VW</span><span></span></div>
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style="background:white"><span>Hello
again! The
desk plot
thickens. A
colleague at
dinner (not a
VW scholar)
told me she
had read
somewhere that
VW was really
very predatory
and rude about
asking for and
demanding a
desk from a
friend, a desk
that was an
heirloom,
etc. She said
that Vanessa
had been
horribly
embarrassed by
the whole
thing, etc,
etc. </span></div>
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felt at a loss
because it
didn't sound
familiar, at
least not the
outrage of it
all.</span></div>
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style="background:white"><span>Finally
she tracked it
down to the
novel Vanessa
& Her
Sister by
Parmar. </span></div>
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style="background:white"><span>The
passage in the
novel (set up
as a journal
entry) is
rather harsh:</span></div>
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5 May 1906--46
Gordon Square
(end of a long
day)</span></div>
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style="background:white"><span>"Virginia
asked Violet
for a table.
Such an
innocuous
sentence, but
what a rumpus
it has
caused. It is
apparently a
particular
favourite of
Violet's and a
valuable
antique to
boot.
Virginia just
thundered in
to tea at
Violet's one
afternoon and
told her that
she would
quite like to
have it.
Mother would
be so
distressed.
Thoby and
Adrian are
appalled--"One
simply does
not go about
asking for
other people's
things,
Ginia!"--and I
am now
resigned. I
was unsettled
at first, wary
as I am for
any signs of
imbalance or
incongruity in
Virginia, but
seeing that it
was just one
of her
peculiar
moments of
directness at
work, I
relaxed.
Violet was an
utter dear and
had the table
delivered the
next day.
Virginia is
planning to
have two of
the legs sawn
off, which
makes the gift
quite
irreversible.</span></div>
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And--Virginia,
after
listening to a
stinging
lecture from
Thobs, has
written twice
today,
pestering poor
Violet for the
price of the
table." (87)</span></div>
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style="background:white"><span>I've
looked at VW's
letters to
Violet (Vol 1
270, [May
1906] p 225ff
but haven't
found anything
about
Vanessa's
reaction.
Does anyone
have any more
information
about this?
I've hardly
looked at
Patmar's book
but my
colleague
noted that it
made VW out to
be rather
demonic.</span></div>
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keep looking
but it does
seem curious.</span></div>
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<div
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Kathleen
Hankins</span></div>
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of English
& Creative
Writing</span></div>
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<div
style="background:white"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt">"Moreover, however interesting facts may be,
they are an
inferior form
of fiction,
&
gradually we
become
impatient of
their weakness
&
diffuseness,
of their
compromises
&
evasions, of
the slovenly
sentences
which they
make for
themselves,
and are eager
to revive
ourselves with
the greater
intensity
& truth of
fiction." </span></i><span
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Virginia
Woolf, "How
Should One
Read a Book?"</span></div>
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