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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3" style="font-size:12pt;" color="#000000">A very good question, Mark!</font><div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3" style="font-size:12pt;" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div>Angeliki</div><div><br><br><div style="line-height:21px;color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="line-height:21px;color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: mhussey@verizon.net<br>To: vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu<br>Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 09:30:03 -0400<br>Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW<br><br><style><!--
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--></style><div class="ecxWordSection1"><p class="ecxMsoNormal">Thinking more about this really interesting issue, I am wondering if any other writer than Woolf has attracted so many biographers (leaving aside the explicitly fictional versions of her). There seems to be a widespread compulsion to narrate some version of her life, and the flow has hardly stopped (the latest, perhaps, being Vivianne Forrester’s). And, of course, there must be an appetite for reading the story in these different versions to induce publishers to risk putting them onto the market. But is hers really the most interesting writer’s life of the twentieth century? Are there, in fact, other writers who have elicited a similar or greater number of biographical treatments?</p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"> </p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";"> Sarah M. Hall [mailto:smhall123@yahoo.co.uk] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 03, 2015 5:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mark Hussey; 'Danell Jones'; 'Stuart N. Clarke'; vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span></p></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;">Fictionalized Danell: have you considered crowdfunding?</span></p><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12629"><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12628"><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12627"><div class="ecxMsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> Mark Hussey <<a href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net">mhussey@verizon.net</a>><br><b>To:</b> 'Danell Jones' <<a href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net">danelljones@bresnan.net</a>>; 'Stuart N. Clarke' <<a href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com">stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 2 September 2015, 21:44<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12644"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p><div id="ecxyiv3340197613"><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12648"><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12647"><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12646"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Michael Lackey’s new listserv on biofiction (details of which I posted last week) and his forthcoming book(s) on the subject are evidence of growing academic interest in these questions. I shall keep working on my fictionalized Danell if I see any money in it! More seriously, my concern is how the fictional version of Woolf so often play into existing antagonistic paradigms promulgated by laddish novelists in the UK and other Bloomsbury bashers…</span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12650"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yqt96364"><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12702"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;" id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12701"><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12700"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> Danell Jones [<a href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net">mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Mark Hussey'; 'Stuart N. Clarke'; <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12704"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12653"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">I love it! Now I’m dying to know how did I get to the penthouse? Where do I keep my opium? The Des Moines thing was clearly a misprint in the <i>Register</i>. </span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#2E74B5;">J</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12712"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12718"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">More seriously, I am writing a biography of a African Edwardian living in London and am working very, very hard to ground everything in fact, even though I am dramatizing some scenes. It is an interesting process. The whole genre of creative nonfiction is exciting, complex, challenging.</span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12721"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1441270656402_12723"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">I’m always really interested hearing people’s thoughts about where the boundaries are in historical novels, creative nonfiction, and even sometimes, history. </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Thanks!</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Danell</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> Mark Hussey [<a href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net" target="_blank">mailto:mhussey@verizon.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Danell Jones' <<a href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net" target="_blank">danelljones@bresnan.net</a>>; 'Stuart N. Clarke' <<a href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com" target="_blank">stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">“Danell Jones, a zoo keeper from Des Moines with a secret opium habit and a penchant for fast cars, leaned out of her penthouse window one snowy morning and ….”</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">I think, to paraphrase Woolf, there are many varieties of “truth” (just as there are many varieties of error…). Brenda Silver’s <i>Virginia Woolf Icon</i> is instructive here. I agree, it is a great conversation!</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">mark</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> Vwoolf [<a href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Danell Jones<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Stuart N. Clarke'; <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">As someone who has fictionalized Woolf, may I defend creative writers by suggesting that Woolf quite liked the “truth” of fiction? “I prefer, where truth is important,” she wrote, “to write fiction.” </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Her “true” story of the <i>Dreadnought</i> Hoax, for example, contains a good deal of fiction.</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">This is a great conversation!</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Danell</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> Vwoolf [<a href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stuart N. Clarke<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:04 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">See VW Letters #264, 270, 271.</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Stuart</span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> <a href="mailto:smhall123@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" title="smhall123@yahoo.co.uk">Sarah M. Hall</a> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:11 AM</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">To:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> <a href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net" target="_blank" title="mhussey@verizon.net">Mark Hussey</a> ; <a href="mailto:lhankins@cornellcollege.edu" target="_blank" title="lhankins@cornellcollege.edu">'Leslie Hankins'</a> ; <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank" title="vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a> ; <a href="mailto:ivwsociety@gmail.com" target="_blank" title="ivwsociety@gmail.com">'International Virginia Woolf Society'</a> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> Re: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17499"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Dear All,</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_18225"><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_18222"><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">I've contacted Priya Parmar to ask about the source for the table 'incident' and she says:</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><blockquote style="" id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17596"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_15964"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">The incident with the table is definitely rooted in historical fact. It was valuable and she did ask Violet for it and appalled her family. I think it comes from a letter from Vanessa Bell. It may be mentioned in a letter of Virginia's as well. I do not think it pops up in Lytton Strachey's correspondence. I wish I had my notes! The dates I know are accurate.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_15966"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17513"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">I am not sure if that helps! I have finally stored my research notes in America and feel a bit bereft that I do not have them to hand! </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17515"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17517"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Obviously in a novel, the author will explore and speculate on people's emotions ('particular favourite', 'thundered in'), which can lead to difficulties if readers take it at face value. Also, when the (non-Woolfian) reader passes on their interpretation of the events, they add their own layer of emotion ('predatory', 'demanding', 'heirloom', 'horribly embarrassed'). In fact, it has been filtered through three people by the time it gets to us; not that I am questioning your interpretation of your colleague's words, Leslie. </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_18112"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_18133"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">But you're right, Mark. We can't help readers misinterpreting fiction as fact; any more than we can help people believing uncorroborated 'facts' they read in a non-fiction book or a newspaper, which it seems to me are more dangerous and inexcusable.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17718"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17717"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">All the best,</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17594"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17592"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Sarah</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17519"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17590"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;" id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17376"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17375"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17374"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17373"><div class="ecxMsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> Mark Hussey <<a href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net" target="_blank">mhussey@verizon.net</a>><br><b>To:</b> 'Leslie Hankins' <<a href="mailto:lhankins@cornellcollege.edu" target="_blank">lhankins@cornellcollege.edu</a>>; <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>; 'International Virginia Woolf Society' <<a href="mailto:ivwsociety@gmail.com" target="_blank">ivwsociety@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 29 August 2015, 22:06<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17428"><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17427"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17426"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17429"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Perhaps we need to institute a fact checking website to counter the endless flow of misinformation coming from novelists and tv series writers, film-makers and others who prefer fictional versions of VW et al. to anything based on the historical record!</span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17425"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div><div><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yqt87696"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17444"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> Vwoolf [<a href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=verizon.net@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=verizon.net@lists.osu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Leslie Hankins<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 29, 2015 4:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>; International Virginia Woolf Society<br><b>Subject:</b> [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17437"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17442"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Hello again! The desk plot thickens. A colleague at dinner (not a VW scholar) told me she had read somewhere that VW was really very predatory and rude about asking for and demanding a desk from a friend, a desk that was an heirloom, etc. She said that Vanessa had been horribly embarrassed by the whole thing, etc, etc. </span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17440"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17439"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">I felt at a loss because it didn't sound familiar, at least not the outrage of it all.</span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Finally she tracked it down to the novel Vanessa & Her Sister by Parmar. </span></p></div></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17436"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17435"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17617"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17616"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">The passage in the novel (set up as a journal entry) is rather harsh:</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17620"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17619"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17623"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17622"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Saturday 5 May 1906--46 Gordon Square (end of a long day)</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17626"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17625"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17629"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17628"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">"Virginia asked Violet for a table. Such an innocuous sentence, but what a rumpus it has caused. It is apparently a particular favourite of Violet's and a valuable antique to boot. Virginia just thundered in to tea at Violet's one afternoon and told her that she would quite like to have it. Mother would be so distressed. Thoby and Adrian are appalled--"One simply does not go about asking for other people's things, Ginia!"--and I am now resigned. I was unsettled at first, wary as I am for any signs of imbalance or incongruity in Virginia, but seeing that it was just one of her peculiar moments of directness at work, I relaxed. Violet was an utter dear and had the table delivered the next day. Virginia is planning to have two of the legs sawn off, which makes the gift quite irreversible.</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17632"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17631"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17635"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17634"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> And--Virginia, after listening to a stinging lecture from Thobs, has written twice today, pestering poor Violet for the price of the table." (87)</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17638"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17637"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17641"><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17640"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">I've looked at VW's letters to Violet (Vol 1 270, [May 1906] p 225ff but haven't found anything about Vanessa's reaction. Does anyone have any more information about this? I've hardly looked at Patmar's book but my colleague noted that it made VW out to be rather demonic.</span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">I'll keep looking but it does seem curious.</span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">leslie</span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">-- </span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Leslie Kathleen Hankins</span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Professor</span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">Department of English & Creative Writing</span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">"Moreover, however interesting facts may be, they are an inferior form of fiction, & gradually we become impatient of their weakness & diffuseness, of their compromises & evasions, of the slovenly sentences which they make for themselves, and are eager to revive ourselves with the greater intensity & truth of fiction." </span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> Virginia Woolf, "How Should One Read a Book?"</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div><div id="ecxyiv3340197613yqt79562"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">_______________________________________________<br>Vwoolf mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" target="_blank">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a></span></p></div></div><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div class="ecxMsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">_______________________________________________<br>Vwoolf mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" target="_blank">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p><div id="ecxyqt26472"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;">_______________________________________________<br>Vwoolf mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" target="_blank">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a></span></p></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________
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