<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:14px"><div><span></span></div><div></div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441225064811_16680" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441225064811_16679" face="Times New Roman" size="3">Creative nonfiction (which is what I write), no matter how creative, is still
nonfiction. There are literary journals that recognize whatever confusion may exist
and call the categories “fiction” and “fact.” Either way, it’s pretty
straightforward. The jury is out among purists of the form whether recreated
dialogue and composite characters or events are acceptable. Some authors make a
point of acknowledging that their version of the truth may be embellished or
imagined (especially dialogue) when they can't be completely accurate.</font></div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"> </font></div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441225064811_16861" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441225064811_16860" face="Times New Roman" size="3">If it’s not fact, then it’s fiction—historical fiction,
biofiction, whatever term is used. Truman Capote called In
Cold Blood a “nonfiction novel,” an oxymoron if there was one; his book was fiction based on real people and events, tailored/augmented/slanted by Tru. </font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441225064811_17227" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" dir="ltr"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441225064811_17226" face="Times New Roman" size="3">Fiction can be far-fetched,
it can bash and mislead. </font><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441225064811_17347" face="Times New Roman" size="3">Parmar could have had Virginia and Clive eloping to Acapulco
(or Des Moines) and opening a Pilates studio to support their opium habit. Because fact-checking isn't always possible, I’m inclined to remind people who ask about some
particular detail that what they’re reading is a novel, that it’s someone’s fictional
Woolf.</font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441225064811_18133" dir="ltr"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441225064811_18132" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font></div><div class="signature" dir="ltr">Alice</div><div class="signature" dir="ltr"><br></div><div class="signature"><a href="http://www.aliceloweblogs.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><font style="background-color: rgb(192, 255, 128);"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="2">www.aliceloweblogs.wordpress.com</font></font></font></a><font style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font size="+0"> </font></font></div><div class="signature"> </div> <br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 1:44 PM, Mark Hussey <mhussey@verizon.net> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv1884000462"><style>#yiv1884000462 #yiv1884000462 --
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#yiv1884000462 </style><div><div class="yiv1884000462WordSection1"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal">Michael Lackey’s new listserv on biofiction (details of which I posted last week) and his forthcoming book(s) on the subject are evidence of growing academic interest in these questions. I shall keep working on my fictionalized Danell if I see any money in it! More seriously, my concern is how the fictional version of Woolf so often play into existing antagonistic paradigms promulgated by laddish novelists in the UK and other Bloomsbury bashers…</div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv1884000462yqt6505565462" id="yiv1884000462yqt07677"><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-image: none;"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Danell Jones [mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net] <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:54 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> 'Mark Hussey'; 'Stuart N. Clarke'; vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span>I love it! Now I’m dying to know how did I get to the penthouse? Where do I keep my opium? The Des Moines thing was clearly a misprint in the <i>Register</i>. </span><span style="color: rgb(46, 116, 181); font-family: Wingdings;">J</span><span> </span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span> </span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span>More seriously, I am writing a biography of a African Edwardian living in London and am working very, very hard to ground everything in fact, even though I am dramatizing some scenes. It is an interesting process. The whole genre of creative nonfiction is exciting, complex, challenging.</span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span> </span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span>I’m always really interested hearing people’s thoughts about where the boundaries are in historical novels, creative nonfiction, and even sometimes, history. </span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span> </span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span>Thanks!</span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span> </span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span>Danell</span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span> </span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span> </span></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-image: none;"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> Mark Hussey [<a href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net">mailto:mhussey@verizon.net</a>] <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:48 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> 'Danell Jones' <<a href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net">danelljones@bresnan.net</a>>; 'Stuart N. Clarke' <<a href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com">stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal">“Danell Jones, a zoo keeper from Des Moines with a secret opium habit and a penchant for fast cars, leaned out of her penthouse window one snowy morning and ….”</div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal">I think, to paraphrase Woolf, there are many varieties of “truth” (just as there are many varieties of error…). Brenda Silver’s <i>Virginia Woolf Icon</i> is instructive here. I agree, it is a great conversation!</div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal">mark</div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"> </div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-image: none;"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Vwoolf [<a href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu">mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Danell Jones<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:54 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> 'Stuart N. Clarke'; <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span>As someone who has fictionalized Woolf, may I defend creative writers by suggesting that Woolf quite liked the “truth” of fiction? “I prefer, where truth is important,” she wrote, “to write fiction.” </span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span> </span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span>Her “true” story of the <i>Dreadnought</i> Hoax, for example, contains a good deal of fiction.</span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span> </span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span>This is a great conversation!</span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span> </span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span>Danell</span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span> </span></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span> </span></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-image: none;"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> Vwoolf [<a href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu">mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stuart N. Clarke<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:04 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span>See VW Letters #264, 270, 271.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span>Stuart</span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: whitesmoke;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a title="smhall123@yahoo.co.uk" href="mailto:smhall123@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:smhall123@yahoo.co.uk">Sarah M. Hall</a> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: whitesmoke;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:11 AM</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: whitesmoke;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a title="mhussey@verizon.net" href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net">Mark Hussey</a> ; <a title="lhankins@cornellcollege.edu" href="mailto:lhankins@cornellcollege.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lhankins@cornellcollege.edu">'Leslie Hankins'</a> ; <a title="vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a> ; <a title="ivwsociety@gmail.com" href="mailto:ivwsociety@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ivwsociety@gmail.com">'International Virginia Woolf Society'</a> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: whitesmoke;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Re: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span></div></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17499"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Dear All,</span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_18225"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_18222"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I've contacted Priya Parmar to ask about the source for the table 'incident' and she says:</span></div></div><blockquote id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17596" style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_15964"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">The incident with the table is definitely rooted in historical fact. It was valuable and she did ask Violet for it and appalled her family. I think it comes from a letter from Vanessa Bell. It may be mentioned in a letter of Virginia's as well. I do not think it pops up in Lytton Strachey's correspondence. I wish I had my notes! The dates I know are accurate.</span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_15966"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17513"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I am not sure if that helps! I have finally stored my research notes in America and feel a bit bereft that I do not have them to hand! </span></div></div></blockquote><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17515"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17517"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Obviously in a novel, the author will explore and speculate on people's emotions ('particular favourite', 'thundered in'), which can lead to difficulties if readers take it at face value. Also, when the (non-Woolfian) reader passes on their interpretation of the events, they add their own layer of emotion ('predatory', 'demanding', 'heirloom', 'horribly embarrassed'). In fact, it has been filtered through three people by the time it gets to us; not that I am questioning your interpretation of your colleague's words, Leslie. </span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_18112"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_18133"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">But you're right, Mark. We can't help readers misinterpreting fiction as fact; any more than we can help people believing uncorroborated 'facts' they read in a non-fiction book or a newspaper, which it seems to me are more dangerous and inexcusable.</span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17718"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17717"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">All the best,</span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17594"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17592"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Sarah</span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17519"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17590"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><blockquote id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17376" style="border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentColor currentColor currentColor rgb(16, 16, 255); padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; border-image: none; margin-top: 3.75pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 3.75pt;"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17375"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17374"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17373"><div align="center" class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white; text-align: center;"><span></span><hr width="100%" size="1" align="center"></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Mark Hussey <<a href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net">mhussey@verizon.net</a>><br clear="none"><b>To:</b> 'Leslie Hankins' <<a href="mailto:lhankins@cornellcollege.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lhankins@cornellcollege.edu">lhankins@cornellcollege.edu</a>>; <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>; 'International Virginia Woolf Society' <<a href="mailto:ivwsociety@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ivwsociety@gmail.com">ivwsociety@gmail.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 29 August 2015, 22:06<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span><span></span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17428"><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17427"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17426"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17429"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Perhaps we need to institute a fact checking website to counter the endless flow of misinformation coming from novelists and tv series writers, film-makers and others who prefer fictional versions of VW et al. to anything based on the historical record!</span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17425"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yqt87696"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17444"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Vwoolf [<a href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=verizon.net@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=verizon.net@lists.osu.edu">mailto:vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=verizon.net@lists.osu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Leslie Hankins<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 29, 2015 4:57 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>; International Virginia Woolf Society<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> [Vwoolf] curiouser and curiouser: the desk(s) of VW</span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17437"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17442"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Hello again! The desk plot thickens. A colleague at dinner (not a VW scholar) told me she had read somewhere that VW was really very predatory and rude about asking for and demanding a desk from a friend, a desk that was an heirloom, etc. She said that Vanessa had been horribly embarrassed by the whole thing, etc, etc. </span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17440"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17439"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>I felt at a loss because it didn't sound familiar, at least not the outrage of it all.</span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Finally she tracked it down to the novel Vanessa & Her Sister by Parmar. </span></div></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17436"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17435"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17617"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17616"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>The passage in the novel (set up as a journal entry) is rather harsh:</span></div></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17620"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17619"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17623"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17622"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Saturday 5 May 1906--46 Gordon Square (end of a long day)</span></div></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17626"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17625"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17629"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17628"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>"Virginia asked Violet for a table. Such an innocuous sentence, but what a rumpus it has caused. It is apparently a particular favourite of Violet's and a valuable antique to boot. Virginia just thundered in to tea at Violet's one afternoon and told her that she would quite like to have it. Mother would be so distressed. Thoby and Adrian are appalled--"One simply does not go about asking for other people's things, Ginia!"--and I am now resigned. I was unsettled at first, wary as I am for any signs of imbalance or incongruity in Virginia, but seeing that it was just one of her peculiar moments of directness at work, I relaxed. Violet was an utter dear and had the table delivered the next day. Virginia is planning to have two of the legs sawn off, which makes the gift quite irreversible.</span></div></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17632"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17631"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17635"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17634"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> And--Virginia, after listening to a stinging lecture from Thobs, has written twice today, pestering poor Violet for the price of the table." (87)</span></div></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17638"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17637"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17641"><div id="yiv1884000462yui_3_16_0_1_1441093293039_17640"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>I've looked at VW's letters to Violet (Vol 1 270, [May 1906] p 225ff but haven't found anything about Vanessa's reaction. Does anyone have any more information about this? I've hardly looked at Patmar's book but my colleague noted that it made VW out to be rather demonic.</span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>I'll keep looking but it does seem curious.</span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>leslie</span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>-- </span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Leslie Kathleen Hankins</span></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Professor</span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Department of English & Creative Writing</span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><i><span style="font-size: 10pt;">"Moreover, however interesting facts may be, they are an inferior form of fiction, & gradually we become impatient of their weakness & diffuseness, of their compromises & evasions, of the slovenly sentences which they make for themselves, and are eager to revive ourselves with the greater intensity & truth of fiction." </span></i><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span><span></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> Virginia Woolf, "How Should One Read a Book?"</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1884000462yqt79562"><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Vwoolf mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br clear="none"><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a></span></div></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span> </span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div align="center" class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"><span></span><hr width="100%" size="2" align="center"></div><div class="yiv1884000462MsoNormal"><span>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Vwoolf mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br clear="none"><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="yqt6505565462" id="yqt27186">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Vwoolf mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br clear="none"><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" target="_blank" shape="rect">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>