<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Perhaps follow JA Spender as a point of contact? He was supposedly the person to whom Grey uttered the lines and as one of "the most influential political journalist of his day" (D1 n11, 157), perhaps he posited some version of or the spirit of the lines either in print or in conversation that could be connected to VW. She was definitely aware that they were "caballing" in the hallway. Or perhaps it's none of these and can be attributed to the fact that sometimes the ideas are just in the air. </div><div><br></div><div>Jean<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On May 11, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Ado Haberer <<a href="mailto:adolphe@haberer.fr">adolphe@haberer.fr</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>No footnote in Edward L. Bishop's Shakespeare Head Press edition which I used when I translated JR.  Interesting to note, however, that in ch. XIII "Mrs. Durrant discussed with Sir Edgar the policy of Sir Edward Grey."<br>With best wishes</div><div>Ado Haberer</div><div><br>Envoyé de mon iPhone</div><div><br>Le 11 mai 2015 à 15:54, Stuart N. Clarke <<a href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com">stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com</a>> a écrit :<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>

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<div>I am helping David Bradshaw edit JR for Cambridge University Press, and we 
have noticed several mysteries in the text.</div>
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<div>Towards the end of ch. XII:</div>
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<div>“Now it was dark. <span style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: en-gb; mso-fareast-language: en-gb; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">Now 
it one after another lights were extinguished. Now great 
towns—Paris—Constantinople—London—were black as strewn rocks.”</span></div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: en-gb; mso-fareast-language: en-gb; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa"></span> </div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: en-gb; mso-fareast-language: en-gb; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">The 
second sentence sounds like Sir Edward Grey’s<span style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: en-gb; mso-fareast-language: en-gb; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa"> 
‘The lamps are going out all over Europe. We shall not see them lit again in our 
lifetime’.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: en-gb; mso-fareast-language: en-gb; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: en-gb; mso-fareast-language: en-gb; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa"></span></span> </div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: en-gb; mso-fareast-language: en-gb; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: en-gb; mso-fareast-language: en-gb; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">Unfortunately, 
this appeared in his autobiography in 1925! “It was his only memorable saying, 
widely quoted and anthologized subsequently” (ODNB). Would it have been known 
about when VW was writing JR? If so, where? If not, we shall probably have to 
follow Sue Roe and Vara Neverow, and say that the sentence “prefigures” or 
“anticipates” Grey’s reminiscence in 1925.</span></span></div>
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<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: en-gb; mso-fareast-language: en-gb; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: en-gb; mso-fareast-language: en-gb; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">Any 
answers gratefully received.</span></span></div>
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