<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3456" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3459">Then perhaps HG Wells or Wilkie Collins</span></div><div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3455"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3450"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3454"><i><font size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> </font></i></div><div><i></i></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3453"><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3713"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3712">Steve Posin </font></b></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3452"><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3715"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3714">415-921-3649 h</font></b></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3451"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3717"><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3716">415-596-8125 c</b></font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3449"><font face="Arial"><i></i></font> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424242855121_3718"><font face="Arial"><i><var id="yui-ie-cursor"></var></i></font> </div></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 12:38 PM, Caroline Webb <caroline.webb@newcastle.edu.au> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0422927324"><style>#yiv0422927324 #yiv0422927324 --
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<div class="yiv0422927324MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Orlando is a poet, and much of the talk about “great Victorian writers” in the ‘20s would have been about poetry. Tennyson and Browning
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<div class="yiv0422927324MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">The issue isn’t so much who Woolf herself would have thought was great—it’s who her contemporaries were lauding at the time, which
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<div class="yiv0422927324MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">I like the point about
<i>Eminent Victorians</i>.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv0422927324MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"> Vwoolf [mailto:vwoolf-bounces+caroline.webb=newcastle.edu.au@lists.osu.edu]
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<b>To:</b> Anne Fernald; vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu<br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] the four great Victorians?</span></div>
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<div class="yiv0422927324MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">I'm not convinced she had four particular Victorian literary figures in mind; could it be an ironic reference to Lytton Strachey's Eminent
Victorians, i.e. Cardinal Manning, Florence Nightingale, Thomas Arnold and General Gordon? Although of course they're not writers. So readers can take their pick. Dickens would probably have to be one of the four; otherwise it's a free-for-all; probably no
women though, not even George Eliot.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv0422927324MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Anne Fernald <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fernald@fordham.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:fernald@fordham.edu">fernald@fordham.edu</a>><br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv0422927324MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">A facebook friend asks whom Orlando refers to when mentioning the four great writers of the Victorian age. I realize I don't know, nor do I really understand
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<div class="yiv0422927324MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">As a reference to four novelists (she's just had volumes and volumes delivered) (e.g. Dickens, Trollope, Thackeray, and....who? Hardy)? Or as a joke about
the way we name an era's greats with certainty? Or....? It seems almost certainly NOT to be the four women of A Room of One's Own (Austen, Brontë, Brontë, Eliot)....</span></div>
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by the consequences of her order. For, of course, to the Victorians themselves Victorian literature meant not merely four great names separate and distinct but four great names sunk and embedded in a mass of Alexander Smiths, Dixons, Blacks, Milmans, Buckles,
Taines, Paynes, Tuppers, Jamesons--all vocal, clamorous, prominent, and requiring as much attention as anybody else. Orlando's reverence for print had a tough job set before it but drawing her chair to the window to get the benefit of what light might filter
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