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<DIV>According to Robert Sackville-West in “Inheritance”, the portrait “was
painted five years before the outbreak of [the Civil] war” [oh dear – was that
1642?]; he was thirteen at the time; and was murdered in 1645 (p. 66).</DIV>
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<DIV>Stuart</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=cfroula@northwestern.edu
href="mailto:cfroula@northwestern.edu">Christine Froula</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 07, 2014 10:37 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu
href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Vwoolf] Orlando portrait</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>Greetings,
Julie and everyone. My friend Claudia Swan, a historian of Dutch art, forwarded
Julie Vandivere's query about the painting to a friend of hers, another expert,
who replied (below). <BR><BR>Christine <BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p>Dear
Claudia, <BR></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=NL
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>(<I>Ik
schrijf even in het Engels ten behoeve van je correspondent</I>)
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>This
really is an interesting painting! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Without
doubt the object is a spyglass, probably with one drawtube which in the painting
is in the collapsed position. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>The
two white circles are protective caps: one for the eye glass and the other for
the objective lens. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>At
the time these costly hand held telescopes were made of
ivory.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>(See
also the page from my book on the Louwman collection)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Actually
the most prominent telescope maker of 17<SUP>th</SUP> century England was
Richard Reeve(s), who was educated as an ivory turner. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>(See:
A.D.C. Simpson, ‘Richard Reeve — The ‘English Campani’ — And the origins of the
London telescope-making tradition’, <I>Vistas in Astronomy</I>, Volume 28, Part
1, 1985, Pages 357-365). <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>See
for instance also the trade card of John Yarwell from
1683.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>However,
the assumed date of the painting can NOT be 1610. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>In
my view the costumes can be dated a few decades later, in the period 1640-1660?
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>That
would also make more sense with the object, which in my feeling also must be
from that time span. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Besides,
the second son of Edward, 4th Earl of Dorset was born in 1622!
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Nevertheless,
it must be one of the earliest depictions of an ivory spyglass.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>By
the way, what is a ‘Necco wafer’?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>My
very best regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Huib
Zuidervaart <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Dr.
Huib J. Zuidervaart<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><I><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Senior
Historian of Science <o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><I><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></I> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Huygens
Institute for the History of the Netherlands </SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Royal
Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences - KNAW<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN lang=NL
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><A
href="http://www.huygens.knaw.nl" moz-do-not-send="true"><SPAN
lang=EN-US>www.huygens.knaw.nl</SPAN></A></SPAN></I><I><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><I><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>P.O.
Box 90.754<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><I><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>NL-2509
LT The Hague<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><I><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>The
Netherlands<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: windowtext'>Van:</SPAN></B><SPAN
lang=NL
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: windowtext'>
Claudia Swan [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="mailto:c-swan@northwestern.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:c-swan@northwestern.edu</A>] <BR><B>Verzonden:</B>
dinsdag 7 oktober 2014 2:04<BR><B>Aan:</B> Huib Zuidervaart<BR><B>Onderwerp:</B>
Fwd: home<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=NL><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=NL style="COLOR: #1f497d">[…]</SPAN><SPAN
lang=NL><BR><BR>Ik schrijf dadelijk een antwoord </SPAN><SPAN lang=NL
style="COLOR: #1f497d">[…] </SPAN><SPAN lang=NL>maar dacht, als iemand een
antwoord heeft op de vraag hieronder (over de kleine witte cirkels) dan ben jij
het, oder? <BR><BR></SPAN>Hartelijke groet, <BR>Claudia <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>[Vwoolf] What do you think these
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<P class=MsoNormal>Mon, 29 Sep 2014 14:20:09 +0000<o:p></o:p></P></TD></TR>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Vandivere, Julie <A href="mailto:jvandive@bloomu.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:jvandive@bloomu.edu</A><o:p></o:p></P></TD></TR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><A href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</A> <A
href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><BR>The first edition of Orlando
had this as one of its illustrations. What do you think the little white
circles are on the table? <SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I know the illustration was done at Knole by an unknown
artist and is of Edward Sackville West "The Two Sons of Edward, 4th Earl of
Dorset by Cornelius Nule in about 1610. In Orlando, the painting appears in
black and white, but here I am including the colored one because I would love
speculation on what the two white dots on the table are. They look like felt
pads. I know this might seem a bit silly, but I'm using the painting to
make an argument.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>They look like felt pads and might be to guard the glass on
the telescope that is lying on the table. <SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>But I'd hate to make that argument without some input. Necco
wafers?<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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