<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Virginia Woolf had access to the
opinions of leading experts in the field of painting, and was very
far from uninformed herself about art and art history.
Nevertheless, it is surely worth remembering that what today's
experts see in the picture in question, and what Woolf did, are
not necessarily the same . . .<br>
<br>
Jeremy H<br>
<br>
Den 30.09.2014 07:30, skrev annemarie bantzinger:<br>
</div>
<blockquote cite="mid:DUB126-W52562EA54A591B0C9107CAD7BB0@phx.gbl"
type="cite">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<style><!--
.hmmessage P
{
margin:0px;
padding:0px
}
body.hmmessage
{
font-size: 12pt;
font-family:Calibri
}
--></style>
<div dir="ltr">
<style abp="427"><!--
.hmmessage P
{
margin:0px;
padding:0px
}
body.hmmessage
{
font-size: 12pt;
font-family:Calibri
}
--></style>
<div dir="ltr" abp="428"> <br abp="429">
Dear all, dear Julie,</div>
<div dir="ltr" abp="430"> </div>
<div dir="ltr" abp="431">When I first saw the image my feeling
was the tube and the discs were some kind of game. This seems
to be a general feeling reading the comments.</div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" dir="ltr" abp="432"><span style="color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size:
11pt;" abp="433"></span> </p>
<div dir="ltr" abp="434">Allow me to pass on some knowledge from
a Dutch painting expert - altho he really would like to see a
larger image -.</div>
<div dir="ltr" abp="435"> </div>
<div dir="ltr" abp="436"> It seems to him</div>
<div dir="ltr" abp="437"> </div>
<div dir="ltr" abp="438"> " the 'telescope' is more likely to be
a tube or case filled with circular discs ment for some kind
of game, two of which are already shaken out, A telescope
with its protective covers seems unlikely to me. The very
first telescopes were only in existance for a year when the
painting was done.<br abp="439">
Oddly enough there is a small hole in the first disc of the
case and I cant see any holes in the discs on the table. You
might think of a telescope but the young man is holding the
tube in such a way that it seems like he wants to roll
something out of it, it is not the way to hold a telescope.
May be you can find a game from the period, a game with or
without the holes in the discs. I think they started out
without a hole and during restauration ( there almost arent
any 17th century paintings without it) something was added or
painted away. E.g. the restaurer might have thought it was a
telescope and made a suggestion of a lens on the disc or the
holes in the discs on the table are painted away.</div>
<div dir="ltr" abp="440">It happens often that art historians
trying to interpret a painting are misled by old restaurations
and/or later over painting. I would find it interesting to
research whether the first black circle in front of the white
circle of the tube is a later addition, in that case one can
rule it being a telescope".</div>
<div dir="ltr" abp="441"> </div>
<div dir="ltr" abp="442">end of quote.</div>
<div dir="ltr" abp="443"> </div>
<div dir="ltr" abp="444">I hope this all helps Julie. Good luck!</div>
<div dir="ltr" abp="445">AnneMarie</div>
<div dir="ltr" abp="446"> </div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</body>
</html>