<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">I too must confess to a certain “grumpiness” when I read these recent what seem quick takes on Woolf’s work, but I think those of us in our dotage, as Anne says so charmingly, must beware dare I say doting — that is, feeling a kind of ownership of the material and readings and interpretations and parameters and even the language used to leapfrog into Woolf as she (and we) recede even further into the past. Remember Eliot saying that a new translation needs to be done of the classes every ten years because the climate has so changed. <div><br></div><div>J.J. Wilson, trying unsuccessfully to resist being bothered<br><div><div>On Sep 23, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Linda Camarasana <<a href="mailto:camarasana@mindspring.com">camarasana@mindspring.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Glad you said that, Anne.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Though I appreciate being reminded of Wharton and connections Colapinto makes between<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>The Age of Innocence</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>To the Lighthouse</i>, I, too, am a bit bothered by the essay, especially this:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Times, serif; background-color: white;">“Something from<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>The Age of Innocence</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>seems to have reverberated in Woolf’s mind when she sat down to write her own most famous novel, even if it was only the central image of the lighthouse, which, as readers of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>The Age of Innocence</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>know, is a key symbol on which Wharton’s novel also turns.</span>”<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Makes me want to tell him to read “Reminiscences” and “A Sketch of the Past.” Surely he should at least acknowledge Woolf’s youth, trips to St. Ives, the haunting sounds of the waves, Julia’s death, and Stella’s death as the most obvious influences on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>To the Lighthouse</i>. <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Best,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Linda<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><i>Linda Camarasana, Ph.D.</i><br><i>Associate Professor, English Department</i><br><i>Coordinator of Writing Programs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i><br><i>New Academic Building 3017</i><br><i>SUNY College at Old Westbury<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i><br><i>Old Westbury, NY 11568</i><br><a href="mailto:camarasana@mindspring.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><i>camarasana@mindspring.com</i></a><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Vwoolf [<a href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>ANNE Fernald [Staff/Faculty [A&S]]<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:43 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vwoolf] New Yorker essay on VW and Wharton<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">I'm very interested to know about the letter from Stuart. The truth is, this essay bugs me. I don't think Wharton is a huge influence on Woolf and I am surprised at the level of speculation he permits himself.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">But I'm getting grumpy in my dotage,<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Best,<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Anne<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Jeannette Smyth <<a href="mailto:jeannette_smyth@earthlink.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">jeannette_smyth@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Thank you, the truth is mighty and it shall prevail!<span class="hoenzb"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">Jeannette Smyth</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">On Sep 23, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Stuart N. Clarke <<a href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">VW ack’d on 18 Nov 1920 the receipt of a copy of “The Age of Innocence” in an uncollected letter to Messrs Appleton & Co. (letter pub’d in the “Virginia Woolf Bulletin” (Jan. 2011)). Stephen Barkway discusses VW’s published comments on Wharton – and Wharton’s irritation – in his accompanying note.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Stuart<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jeannette_smyth@earthlink.net" target="_blank" title="jeannette_smyth@earthlink.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">Jeannette Smyth</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:51 PM<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank" title="vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vwoolf] New Yorker essay on VW and Wharton<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">This is very, very interesting, thank you for the heads up.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I have read every word of the diaries and letters at least three times, where VW's casual reading and influences are most frequently to be found. I can’t remembering her mentioning Edith Wharton in any connection, and the author here notes he cannot find any record of VW’s having read<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>Age of Innocence.</i> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">What interesting<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>ouevres<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i>to compare, though. And how interesting Woolf’s contention that Wharton was not a real American — only Walt Whitman, of the fluid gender, was.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thank you again.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Jeannette Smyth<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Sep 23, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Emily Kopley <<a href="mailto:emily.kopley@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">emily.kopley@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">This recent essay in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>The</i> <i>New Yorker<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i>makes a good case for VW's thinking of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>The Age of Innocence</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>as she composed Mrs. Ramsay's death:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/virginia-woolfs-anxiety-influence" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/virginia-woolfs-anxiety-influence</a></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Best,</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Emily</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><br clear="all"></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">--<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Dr. Emily Kopley<br>Mellon Postdoctoral Fellow<br>McGill University, Department of English<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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