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<DIV>But there are fashions in the interpretation of such evidence.</DIV>
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<DIV>Hermione Lee’s measured analysis in her 1996 biographer seems to have been
ignored – or at least not remarked upon – but perhaps it has had an underground
effect.</DIV>
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<DIV>I think I can see the tide turning. There is not only Frances
Spalding, but also the late Pat Rosenbaum in his “<SPAN>The Bloomsbury Group
Memoir Club”; he argues that in ‘22 Hyde Park Gate’, ‘it is necessary to reclaim
the comedy that has virtually disappeared under the mounds of speculation of
George Duckworth’s incestuous fondlings and cuddlings of his half-sisters’
(74).</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Of course, in the UK the DeSalvo view has never been held as strongly
as in the US.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Stuart</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dswanson@niu.edu
href="mailto:dswanson@niu.edu">Diana Swanson</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, 2014 12:17 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu
href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">'VWOOLF listserv'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vwoolf] National Portrait Gallery
exhibition</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>And
we have Woolf's first-hand witness accounts of abuse at Gerald's and George's
hands, and the corroboration of her family members such as Vanessa
Bell.<BR><BR>>>> Roy Johnson <roy@mantex.co.uk> 8/9/2014 11:01 AM
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<DIV>Very simple</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>The first hand witness accounts evidence of his many victims
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<DIV>Roy Johnson</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.mantex.co.uk" target=_blank>www.mantex.co.uk</A></DIV>
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face=Tahoma><B>From:</B>
vwoolf-bounces+roy=texman.demon.co.uk@lists.service.ohio-state.edu
[vwoolf-bounces+roy=texman.demon.co.uk@lists.service.ohio-state.edu] on behalf
of Mark Hussey [mhussey@verizon.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 09 August 2014
15:52<BR><B>To:</B> 'Stuart N. Clarke'; 'peter stansky'<BR><B>Cc:</B> 'VWOOLF
listserv'; 'Jenny L Pegg'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vwoolf] National Portrait
Gallery exhibition<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext">Well, that depends by what
you mean by 'evidence'. Statements in private letters, in draft memoirs,
not 'evidence per se. But then again, what 'evidence' was there against
Jimmy Savile?</SPAN></P>
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Stuart N. Clarke [mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B>
Saturday, August 09, 2014 4:55 AM<BR><B>To:</B> peter stansky; Mark
Hussey<BR><B>Cc:</B> 'VWOOLF listserv'; Jenny L Pegg<BR><B>Subject:</B> National
Portrait Gallery exhibition</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>I recommend
buying the catalogue/book that accompanies the exhibition, esp. if you can't go
to it, because it includes images of most of the exhibits.</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Although I
have not (yet?) read it all, I agree strongly with:</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>"Whether
this was damaging or not, there is no evidence of sexual abuse. ... More
harmful, perhaps, to her sense of self was George's sustained attack on her
failure to match up with his ideas as to how a young lady of her class should
dress and behave." (p. 45)</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>It's
coercion by others that Woolf tries to resist all through her life, once she has
escaped to Bloomsbury. (Thus, I even experience a kind of "Schadenfreude"
when she *has* to visit her mother-in-law!)</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Stuart</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <A
title=stansky@stanford.edu href="mailto:stansky@stanford.edu"
target=_blank>peter stansky</A> </SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Tuesday, August 05,
2014 5:04 PM</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <A
title=mhussey@verizon.net href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net" target=_blank>Mark
Hussey</A> </SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <A
title=vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu
href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target=_blank>'VWOOLF
listserv'</A> ; <A title=jpegg@stanford.edu href="mailto:jpegg@stanford.edu"
target=_blank>Jenny L Pegg</A> </SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Re: [Vwoolf] Review
of the National Portrait Gallery exhibit in Apollo
magazine</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>I am very
much looking forward to seeing the exhibition. In fact I am doing so on
Saturday August 30 about 11 am with a group of Stanford undergraduates; we are
doing a short course on Bloomsbury at King's. Shortly after twelve the
group will probably have an informal lunch at the National Gallery Cafe next
door which is bigger than the NPG cafe. Should some Woolfians like to join
us, they would be welcome. Then Stuart is taking the group on a Bloomsbury
walk. I can't believe he'd object to a few Woolfians coming along. It does
seem a rather Bloomsbury year with the exhibit, the cookbook, and the Memoir
book.<BR><BR>Other than on that weekend when we are also going to Tilton,
Charleston, Bewick, and Monk's House, we will be in residence at King's
Cambridge August 27-September 15 and if any Woolfians are in Cambridge during
that period they would be welcome to join us informally for lunch or dinner in
the King's Hall. Also on Friday September 5 at 5 we are having a reception
at Newnham with the Dadie Rylands' table on which Virginia lunched and Frances
Spalding should be giving us a short talk. We are paying ten pounds a head for
that event and a few Woolfians would be welcome to join us for that
fee!<BR><BR>my best, Peter<BR><BR>On 8/4/2014 11:16 PM, Mark Hussey wrote:
</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Frances Spalding has done a wonderful job of creating a
narrative through visual artefacts. Those photos by Ott can actually be
seen on the NPG website, I believe. I was surprised by Mark Gertler's
painting of Koteliansky ('Kot'): quite irrationally I had always imagined Kot as
an ascetic and tiny man, but in this portrait he looks like a big burly
businessman! There are some real rarities in the show-the bound volumes of
letters that Violet Dickinson returned to VW late in life; I had not ever known
Violet annotated these (of course, under glass one can only see a page, but the
prospect is tantalizing); also the actual Gestapo list on which L & VW's
names appear. And yes, the catalog is very rich and interesting. I
am in London doing research for a biography of Clive Bell, so was lucky to be
able to see this wonderful exhibition.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <A
href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu"
target=_blank>vwoolf-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</A> [<A
href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu"
target=_blank>mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</A>] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Andrea<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 04, 2014 8:18
PM<BR><B>Cc:</B> VWOOLF listserv<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vwoolf] Review of the
National Portrait Gallery exhibit in Apollo magazine</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">Diana, I was lucky enough to have
my trip to London coincide with the exhibit. I wish it had not been so
crowded, as it was hard to pace myself, but I was so glad to get the
chance! The book that Spalding has compiled for the exhibit would be worth
the while, I think, and is likely available online through the NPG. It's
very well curated, with some rare pieces, including candid shots from Ottoline
Morrell's photo album. I think the impromptu snaps of Virginia are often
so much more interesting than those she posed for. </P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>--Andrea Adolph</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Diana Swanson <<A
href="mailto:dswanson@niu.edu" target=_blank>dswanson@niu.edu</A>> wrote:</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Thanks, Vara. I
wish I could be in London for this.</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Has anyone on the
list seen the exhibition?</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Diana<BR><BR>>>>
"Neverow, Vara S." <<A href="mailto:neverowv1@southernct.edu"
target=_blank>neverowv1@southernct.edu</A>> 8/2/2014 11:51 AM
>>></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Of
interest?</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><A
href="http://www.apollo-magazine.com/review-virginia-woolf-art-life-vision-national-portrait-gallery-london"
target=_blank>http://www.apollo-magazine.com/review-virginia-woolf-art-life-vision-national-portrait-gallery-london</A>/
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