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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Yes, I think on balance that I agree,
Stuart. The fact that there are no quotation marks round the
comment the first time ties in with what I recall is a larger
Woolfian convention following which spoken utterances are enclosed
in quotation marks and silent thoughts are not.<br>
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If so, this would suggest that the self, or subject, can have at
least three different sorts of relationship to words in the head.
First, phrases "lying in the mind" can be "lifted up" by some
external stimulus and as it were presented to the self. Second,
the self can be "trapped" into mentally saying something that it
does not mean. And third, the self can utter words mentally, while
in full control of their force - "How could any Lord have made
this world? she asked." <br>
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This accords with what introspection tells me.<br>
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Jeremy<br>
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Den 03.06.2014 13:35, skrev Stuart N. Clarke:<br>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 03, 2014 12:35 PM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] in the hands of the
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<div>I may be wrong, but I take them as purely mental
statements and questions. If aloud, is she speaking
to herself? Or to whom? To James? To anyone who
happens to overhear?</div>
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<div>I can’t seem to find this passage in the MS.</div>
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<div>Although I haven’t read it since 1970, I recommend
Mitchell Leaska’s rather neglected “Virginia Woolf’s
Lighthouse” (Hogarth Press, 1970).</div>
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<div>Stuart</div>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 03, 2014 12:10 PM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> [Vwoolf] in the hands of the
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a basic question about a well-known passage from <i>To
the Lighthouse</i>. Passage first:<br>
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<font color="#ff0000">Often she found herself sitting
and looking, sitting and looking, with her work in
her hands until she became the thing she looked at
-- that light, for example. And it would lift up on
it some little phrase or other which had been lying
in her mind like that --"Children don’t forget,
children don’t forget" -- which she would repeat and
begin adding to it, It will end, it will end, she
said. It will come, it will come, when suddenly she
added, We are in the hands of the Lord.<br>
But instantly she was annoyed with herself for
saying that. Who had said it? Not she; she had been
trapped into saying something she did not mean. <br>
. . .<br>
What brought her to say that: "We are in the
hands of the Lord?" she wondered. The insincerity
slipping in among the truths roused her, annoyed
her. She returned to her knitting again. How could
any Lord have made this world? she asked.</font><br>
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Now the question. Are we to assume that Mrs Ramsay
actually speaks these words out loud, or are the
"saying" and the "asking" purely mental operations?
For a long while I have assumed that it is the latter,
that Mrs Ramsay speaks these words to herself,
silently. But now I am less sure. <br>
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Any thoughts?<br>
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Jeremy H<br>
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