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Thank you all for this reasonable and interesting discussion. The
Times article was a good reminder for teachers who forget students'
needs (and many I know don't even know their students' anything). I
pass out a confidential survey at the start of every course, and
that way find out if I have any veterans or students with special
needs. I learn a lot of other things too from these surveys. They
remind me that I am not teaching only 'material'--I am teaching
people, these particular people in the room.<br>
The Times article did report some disturbing 'trends' in about
how we should teach. Thought control isn't a feminist agenda. So
many topics are listed as "triggers" that we might not teach
anything. Instead, let's refuse the ugly "trigger" metaphor and make
sure we know the students we have so that individual cautions can be
privately made when necessary. I tell them we're all here to create
a responsible, nurturing class community environment in which people
feel free to speak and respect others' rights to do the same. Within
that comfort zone, then, we look at some discomforting stuff and
help each other deal with it. How can one teach Woolf, war, or
climate change, to mention three, without that?<br>
Janet Larson, Rutgers University--Newark<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/19/2014 12:33 PM, Jean Mills
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<div dir="ltr">Ha! neither, as that would imply poetic genius on
my part. I allude to the fact that he felt oppressed by the
burden of his workload at U College Dublin having to grade
thousands of state examinations as part of his duties!
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Pied or unleaving?
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<div dir="ltr">Yes, I'd like to cry foul over
that, as well. Sounds more like
military-speak, and more like it sprang from
the loins of the culture of surveillance,
violence, and war, we inhabit, rather than the
big, bad spectre of feminist pedagogy.
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<div>Jean (who has to go grade 120 essays, and
is feeling very Gerard Manley Hopkins-ish
because of it!)</div>
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at 11:47 AM, Jeannette Smyth <span
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style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium;color:rgba(0,0,0,1)"><b>From:
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style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium">Jeannette
Smyth <<a
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style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium;color:rgba(0,0,0,1)"><b>To:
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style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium;color:rgba(0,0,0,1)"><b>Subject:
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Can
someone direct me to the feminist
DNA on trigger warnings? I find it
almost impossible to reconcile
that the generation of feminists
who brought us do-me feminism and
stripper/call girl PhDs, also
invented this unconscionable
Grundyism. I suspect, like the
do-me feminism, it is a
misinformed backlash against
Andrea Dworkin.
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<div>As someone who actually has
PTSD once told me, the way to
cure is to step up to bat and
get some more.</div>
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<div>Jeannette Smyth<br>
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5:02 AM, Jeremy Hawthorn
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style="direction:ltr;font-family:Tahoma;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:10pt">Colin
Duckworth's book<span> </span><i>Angels
of Darkness</i><span> </span>includes
a letter from a
doctor very
worried about the
effect on his
daughter of
reading and
studying<span> </span><i>Waiting
for Godot</i>.
It's quoted in
this link: just
click and search
for Godot. I
wonder if the
doctor ever read<span> </span><i>The
Waves</i>.<br>
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