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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>“Too fussy” might be a euphemism for “able to use words correctly.” <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> vwoolf-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarah M. Hall<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> Stuart N. Clarke; woolf list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] "principle" in place of "principal"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>There was an interview on Radio 4 yesterday with a Scotsman who thinks that we are all too fussy about English grammar, and that phrases such as 'most beautifullest' are quite acceptable because Shakespeare used these constructions. The opposing view was that Shakespeare was writing poetry. Downward spiral?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:3.75pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Stuart N. Clarke <<a href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com">stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> woolf list <<a href="mailto:VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu">VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 24 October 2013, 11:33<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] "principle" in place of "principal"</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv6357747453><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Of course, we all make mistakes, but there’s just no end to failures in copy-editing.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>There’s something just not quite right about:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>“This great church ... is crowned by the second largest Roman dome after St Peter’s.”<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>In his TV show, Dave Gorman pointed out the faux spectrum, as in something like “She has taken all the great tragic roles, from Ophelia to the Duchess of Malfi”.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Stuart<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv6357747453yqt01539><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:jeremy.hawthorn@ntnu.no" target="_blank" title="jeremy.hawthorn@ntnu.no">Jeremy Hawthorn</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Thursday, October 24, 2013 11:17 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com" target="_blank" title="stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com">Stuart N. Clarke</a> ; <a href="mailto:VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank" title="VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu">woolf list</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Re: [Vwoolf] "principle" in place of "principal"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div id=yiv6357747453yqt90928><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id=yiv6357747453yqt80869><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>And another one. In the last week I have seen "interred" used where "interned" was correct, and vice-versa. Thus people of Japanese descent were interred during WW2, and the body was interned after the funeral.<br><br>Jeremy H<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div id=yiv6357747453divRpF650005><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">vwoolf-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a> [vwoolf-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu] on behalf of Stuart N. Clarke [stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com]<br><b>Sent:</b> 24 October 2013 11:51<br><b>To:</b> woolf list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] "principle" in place of "principal"</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The 2 words are quite different, but I admit that I have to concentrate when typing them to make sure I’ve chosen the right one! I don’t think they have (yet?) become interchangeable.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Unlike “imply” and “infer”: in the Antipodes, even in scientific papers, the words are used interchangeably, although I was surprised to find the use as early as 1931, e.g.:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>M. H. C., ‘The Scheme of Things’, NZ <i>Evening Post</i>, Vol. CXII, No. 112 (7 November 1931), 9: ‘“Oxbridge” … plainly infers [<i>sic</i>] Oxford’; <a href="http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=EP19311107.2.40.1">http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=EP19311107.2.40.1</a></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Stuart<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:abgrund@naver.com" target="_blank" title="abgrund@naver.com">Sunjoo Lee</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:38 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank" title="VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu">woolf list</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> [Vwoolf] "principle" in place of "principal"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi, everyone, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif";color:black'>I have been a bit bugged by seeing "principle" when the word has to be "principal." <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif";color:black'>I saw that happening in doctoral dissertations and (in a few cases) articles from well-known journals, or even books from good publishers. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif";color:black'>And this afternoon, from Heidegger's <i>Kant and the Problem of Metaphysics</i> (Indiana UP, 1997), I found: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif";color:black'>"Thus the knowledge of beings in general (<i>Metaphysica Generalis</i>) and the knowledge of its principle divisions (<i>Metaphysica Specialis</i>) become a "science established on the basis of mere reason."" (6). <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif";color:black'>And now I wonder, has "principle" been accepted as an alternate spelling of "principal"? Only I haven't been aware of it? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif";color:black'>Dictionaries I use don't have such information. Has anyone else wondered about this? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif";color:black'>Sunjoo <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1027" src="http://mail.naver.com/readReceipt/notify/?img=fQ%2B5%2BBiNM4u%2FazurhARvaAKda6JvF6KlpxCSKq%2BCMxMdFAUwFxvXFo04KdIo%2BrkSKAu5W4d5W4C5bX0q%2BzkR74FTWx%2Fsk0%2BhxdwztzwGbX3q74JobZlT1z0T7BFdMB3074kv%2Bt%3D%3D.gif"><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Vwoolf mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">Vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf">https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Vwoolf mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">Vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf">https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yqt34642><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Vwoolf mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">Vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" target="_blank">https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>