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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> vwoolf-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stuart N. Clarke<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Vwoolf] "The triumph of theory"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Theory seems to come from the Continent. Trouble with these Continentals is that they can’t write English. Why do we have to learn a foreign language to discuss literature?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">See, e.g., Denise Delorey, "Parsing the Female Sentence: The Paradox of Containment in Virginia Woolf's Narratives" in "Ambiguous Discourse", ed. MEZEI, Kathy (Chapel Hill: Univ of North
Carolina Pr, 1996): “the narrator is not simply strategically heterodiegetic” (p. 97).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I want to know what “heterodiegetic” means, so I look up my dictionary – no good. So I turn to Wikipedia, and I find it’s some bloody word invented by one
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Gérard Genette.</span></strong><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">“A writer's choice in the narrator is crucial for the way a work of fiction is perceived by the reader. There is a distinction between
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-person_narrative" title="First-person narrative">
<span style="color:black">first-person</span></a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_narrative" title="Third-person narrative">
<span style="color:black">third-person narrative</span></a>, which <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9rard_Genette" title="Gérard Genette">
<span style="color:black">Gérard Genette</span></a> refers to as homodiegetic and heterodiegetic narrative, respectively. A homodiegetic narrator describes own personal experiences as a character in the story.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I do not see how the terms, homodiegetic and heterodiegetic narrative, are an improvement on
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<span style="color:black">first-person</span></a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_narrative" title="Third-person narrative">
<span style="color:black">third-person narrative</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Stuart<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net" title="danelljones@bresnan.net">Danell Jones</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Re: [Vwoolf] "The triumph of theory"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I think theory can be useful when it is used with precision. However, there is an unfortunate amount of scholarly work in which theory substitutes for clear
thinking and ends up producing sloppy ideas and mangled prose. Moreover, to suggest that theory alone offers challenging thought creates a false dichotomy.<br>
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Why do you suppose these enormously gifted writers are so adverse to theory? I believe that question is worth thoughtful consideration.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">On 7/12/2013 4:03 PM, Laurie Reiche wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">But Derrida is delicious! Although I understand it is soooo uncool to think so. And sooooooo uncool nowadays to suggest that being an "intellectual" might be a good and adventurous thing
to be!---and that one can be compassionate and a doer of good deeds even if she/he
<i>loves</i> crazy/wild/ weird Derridean-Cixousian-(?) Celanesque, etc. words and the wonder-<i>full</i> labyrinthian land of philosophy and theory. Oh dear, it is so easy to make fun of the extreme-literates while the world aorund us becomes a place where
no one reads a book…etc. etc….I'd rather go to a party where the colorful confetti of theory is raining down on my head than be in a dull room of ---well, of
<i>unchallenging</i> thought…? I'm too sleepy to articulate my own thoughts at the moment! Cheers, laurie
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Stuart N. Clarke <<a href="mailto:stuart.n.clarke@BTINTERNET.COM">stuart.n.clarke@BTINTERNET.COM</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-family:"Times New
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<strong><span style="letter-spacing:.5pt">Get to the staff-graduate seminar last night?</span></strong><span style="letter-spacing:.5pt">
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<span style="letter-spacing:.15pt">Oh yeah. Very tasty.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Times New
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<span style="letter-spacing:.25pt">We had this bleeder from some old and ancient university talking about
</span><span style="letter-spacing:.75pt">what he called 'the incidence of poverty in North-East England'.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Times New
","serif";letter-spacing:.4pt">Not another toss-pot empiricist?</span></strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="letter-spacing:.35pt">Right down to the charts and correlations. </span>
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<strong><span style="letter-spacing:.7pt">So you let him have some?</span></strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="letter-spacing:.35pt">Oh yeah. Soon as it was question time, up jumps Big Stan and asks
</span><span style="letter-spacing:.45pt">how he managed to speak for a whole hour about power in the post</span><span style="letter-spacing:.4pt">modern world without one mention of Foucault.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Times New
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<span style="letter-spacing:.5pt">And when he said he couldn't see what Foucault had to do with the
</span><span style="letter-spacing:.3pt">'basic facts of poverty', Knuckles Paul comes straight in with 'what
</span><span style="letter-spacing:.5pt">precisely do you mean by "basic"? How "basic" is "basic"? Is it more
</span><span style="letter-spacing:.4pt">"basic" than "fundamental"'?</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Times New
","serif";letter-spacing:.6pt">Gave him a real going over then?</span></strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="letter-spacing:.4pt">Not half. He started blustering about ‘basic' having something to do
</span><span style="letter-spacing:.5pt">with minimal nutritional standards as laid down by some agency or
</span><span style="letter-spacing:.3pt">other. But absolutely no critical analysis.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Times New
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<span style="letter-spacing:.3pt">Basically. And so bang on cue up gets Mad Ralph and smacks him
</span><span style="letter-spacing:.75pt">round the head with a Derridean metaphysics of presence.
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<strong><span style="letter-spacing:.4pt">Ooh - </span></strong><strong><span style="letter-spacing:.55pt">Aah
</span></strong><strong><span style="letter-spacing:.4pt">- </span></strong><strong><span style="letter-spacing:.8pt">Derri
</span></strong><strong><span style="letter-spacing:.4pt">- </span></strong><strong><span style="letter-spacing:.8pt">Dah!</span></strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="letter-spacing:.7pt">Right on. And then while he's still picking himself up from that
</span>one, Razor Kathy nips in sharpish with her usual trope on <span style="letter-spacing:.75pt">
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