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<P><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,sans-serif>My literary tastes are, God knows, not infallible. Then again, I don't make my living as a literary journalist. But even <EM>I </EM>know that Hawthorne is <EM>The Man.</EM> Recently re-read <EM>Scarlet Letter</EM> thinking I'd probably not feel it, the way one can no longer feel <EM>Anna Karenina</EM> (not least on account of Tolstoy's bone-deep misogynism). I was in tears at the end of it. Tears for Hester Prynne and Arthur Dimmesdale! From this withered and hardened old heart.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,sans-serif>Interesting to think Stephen was blind to Dickens (also more and more prescient, sublime, Marxist, even) and Woolf to Hawthorne. Thanks to all for these insights.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,sans-serif>Take care,</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,sans-serif>Jeannette Smyth<BR></P></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Harish Trivedi <HARISH.TRIVEDI@GMAIL.COM><BR>Sent: Sep 12, 2012 10:26 AM <BR>To: jeannette smyth <JEANNETTE_SMYTH@EARTHLINK.NET><BR>Cc: Eleanor McNees <ELEANOR.MCNEES@DU.EDU>, vwoolf listserv <VWOOLF@LISTS.SERVICE.OHIO-STATE.EDU><BR>Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Leslie Stephen <BR><BR>
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<DIV>Yes, indeed, let's not to be too correct or presentist. To see LS just as a father is rather like seeing VW just as a daughter. And to see him just as Mr Ramsay is like seeing VW just as a woman with a tendecy to go 'mad' from time to time, while disregarding completely what each of them wrote. Patriarchy here seems well met by some shades of Feminism.</DIV>
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<DIV>Of LS's DNB essays, one that has not stood the test of time too well is that on Dickens, who is now 200 years old but was still (luke)warm is his grave when LS wrote that entry. As I recall, he said something to the effect that D must be reckoned great if popularity with the semi-literates <BR>was to be regarded as proof of greatness. Very sniffy -- but hardly more so than VW on American Literature, where she prized Ring Lardner (!) above Hawthorne. </DIV>
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<DIV>All said and done, she was her father's daughter.</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 12 September 2012 20:26, jeannette smyth <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:jeannette_smyth@earthlink.net" target=_blank>jeannette_smyth@earthlink.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<P><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=+0><FONT face=arial,sans-serif>Noel Annan's bio is also enlightening; she seems to have inherited a great deal of his physical toughness, Stephen family mental high/low, and courage. She also inherited his place at the pinnacle of literary journalism and atheism. As an American I wondered for years how she found herself at the nexus of such a powerful group of friends, until I realized they'd all been friends for five generations, since the Clapham sect. This doesn't happen in America.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><A href="http://www.amazon.com/Leslie-Stephen-Noel-Gilroy-Annan/dp/0226021068/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1347461564&sr=1-4" target=_blank>http://www.amazon.com/Leslie-Stephen-Noel-Gilroy-Annan/dp/0226021068/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1347461564&sr=1-4</A></P>
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<P>Don't some of his DNB essays still stand?</P>
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<P>Take care,</P>
<P>Jeannette Smyth</P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(0,0,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Eleanor McNees <U></U><BR>Sent: Sep 10, 2012 1:19 PM <BR>To: "<A href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target=_blank>vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</A>" <U></U><BR>Subject: [Vwoolf] Leslie Stephen <BR><BR><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U>
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<P class=MsoNormal>If one takes the time to read Leslie Stephen’s essays over the course of his life as well as his many entries in the Dictionary of National Biography which he initiated and edited for over a decade, one finds a rather different persona from the one so often criticized as a tyrannical and maudlin father. In addition his letters in the two-volume Bicknell edition present a far more human version. Woolf herself acknowledged especially in her retrospective piece for <I>The Times</I> how significant his literary influence on her was. <U></U><U></U></P>
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