[Vwoolf] Seeking help with annotated edition of Three Guineas

Wed Apr 10 10:55:49 EDT 2024

Hi Mark,

Here's hoping that your initial conversation with someone at the behemoth could start a discussion about accommodating those who want to teach the annotated editions. My recollection is that you had a similar wrestling match with Harcourt in the early 2000s to persuade them to do the annotated versions in the first place. And you won.

Vara

Vara Neverow
(she/her/hers)
Professor, English Department
Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany
Southern Connecticut State University
New Haven, CT 06515
203-392-6717
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I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.

Recent Publications:

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Subject: RE: Seeking help with annotated edition of Three Guineas

I really don’t know how any pressure could be brought to bear on a publishing behemoth like Harcourt/Mariner. Big publishers are just as much to blame for the dearth and death of indie bookshops as amazon imho (but YAY to Blue Heron, Jean—I hope to visit some day!).  As we’ve seen recently from Liveright’s edition of Mrs Dalloway, which has a whole paragraph missing as well as other weird liberties taken with the text, and Granta’s misleading ‘fully’ restored reprint of the diaries, those who publish Woolf’s works remain innocent of scholarly oversight.  If the woman at Harcourt whom I contacted about this replies, I’ll share that with the list.

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Subject: Re: Seeking help with annotated edition of Three Guineas

Hi everyone,

Persuading Harcourt/Mariner to print the annotated version on demand might be the best solution. They own the US copyright for Woolf's work.

In the US, Three Guineas will not be out of copyright until January 1, 1934, 95 years after publication: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain_in_the_United_States__;!!KGKeukY!1InfUEqDii924tzAeMuacRvvdshgkSWZ38iOEnJryn6ALQQqT3TMLt_jgn-qKTt-wCZ5aweN5j15tS_zA0u1p80WPXZo$ .

The Norton edition could be released on January 2, 2034....

Vara

Vara Neverow

(she/her/hers)

Professor, English Department and Women’s and Gender Studies Program

Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany

Southern Connecticut State University

New Haven, CT 06515

203-392-6717

neverowv1 at southernct.edu<mailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu>

I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples.

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Subject: Seeking help with annotated edition of Three Guineas

Hi all,

Thank you for your help! I spoke to my campus bookstore today and learned that the combined Oxford edition is only available in the UK.

I was told that my campus bookstore can attempt to source copies from individual sellers, but they said any time they have to do that the likelihood is that they will not locate enough copies. They instead suggested this edition because the site purports to include a section of notes and references: Three Guineas by Virginia Woolf (readandcobooks.co.uk)<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.readandcobooks.co.uk/books/three-guineas-woolf/__;!!KGKeukY!1InfUEqDii924tzAeMuacRvvdshgkSWZ38iOEnJryn6ALQQqT3TMLt_jgn-qKTt-wCZ5aweN5j15tS_zA0u1p3ps-Eb5$ >, but I am skeptical because of what Mark says below about Amazon’s bait and switch tactics.

Perhaps we should put our hope in a future Norton Critical Edition paperback since they published Anne Fernald’s Mrs. Dalloway in 2021?

Thanks everyone!

Jane

Jane Garrity
Associate Professor of English
University of Colorado at Boulder
226 UCB
Boulder, CO 80309-0226
Jane.Garrity at Colorado.Edu<mailto:Jane.Garrity at Colorado.Edu>

On Apr 9, 2024, at 1:18 PM, mhussey at verizon.net<mailto:mhussey at verizon.net> wrote:

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If you click on the link Vara sent, which does look like it is for the annotated edition, try clicking the ‘Read Sample’ button and you will be taken to the old edition which has no photographs. This has been a problem of very long standing with amazon—it looks like one edition but you end up being baited and switched.

I don’t know if the OUP editions our UK colleagues have mentioned are available to the US market, but being required (as a student) to purchase AROO and Three G when you’ve only been assigned one of them might make some students irritated (understandably).

I wrote to my old contact at HarperCollins this morning, having heard from Jane Garrity about her difficulty ordering the book she wants to teach. But, as we know, Woolf’s publishers on both sides of the Atlantic have not ever really cared vey much about the integrity of her works.

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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Seeking help with annotated edition of Three Guineas

Hi everyone, I just went to the Amazon page and was able to add the 2006 edition to the cart without a fuss: https: //www. amazon. com/Three-Guineas-Annotated-Virginia-Woolf/dp/0156031639 The copy is expensive--$24. 24—but apparently is in stock. 

Hi everyone,

I just went to the Amazon page and was able to add the 2006 edition to the cart without a fuss:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.amazon.com/Three-Guineas-Annotated-Virginia-Woolf/dp/0156031639__;!!KGKeukY!1InfUEqDii924tzAeMuacRvvdshgkSWZ38iOEnJryn6ALQQqT3TMLt_jgn-qKTt-wCZ5aweN5j15tS_zA0u1p3X93p0O$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.amazon.com/Three-Guineas-Annotated-Virginia-Woolf/dp/0156031639__;!!KGKeukY!wGnBrXO1XIVe1yKYW0klvQB4LgRPpjDFRBmWHW1c4txsxhIe0vqwZWi4PRTAUBgf9QPlsnSGLc5PT4QAV19cDeZuY-bT$>

The copy is expensive--$24.24—but apparently is in stock.

If you want a nice searcbable PDF of the volume (without images but without the endnotes, alas), I can send you a link to a webpage.

Cheers,

Vara

Vara Neverow

(she/her/hers)
Professor, English Department

Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany
Southern Connecticut State University
New Haven, CT 06515
203-392-6717
neverowv1 at southernct.edu<mailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu>

I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.

Recent Publications:

Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Pająk, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka)

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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Seeking help with annotated edition of Three Guineas

Hi Jane, Helen and all I can highly recommend A Room of One’s Own and Three Guineas, edited by Anna Snaith, from Oxford World’s Classics: A Room of One's Own and Three Guineas - Virginia Woolf, Anna Snaith - Oxford University Press (oup. com). 

Hi Jane, Helen and all

I can highly recommend A Room of One’s Own and Three Guineas, edited by Anna Snaith, from Oxford World’s Classics: A Room of One's Own and Three Guineas - Virginia Woolf, Anna Snaith - Oxford University Press (oup.com)<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/global.oup.com/academic/product/a-room-of-ones-own-and-three-guineas-9780199642212?lang=en&cc=cz__;!!KGKeukY!33moUCLtN8qOJwICPEKYEdL2-WKbOScztvay2Kc3I1HzvaBKoa-1Tg7kvdVOmTXyqYECW6xCAxq8nrMwpKdwibtTY-FT$>.

Best wishes

Jane

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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Seeking help with annotated edition of Three Guineas

Hi Jane, You might look at the editions which include TGs and AROOO. I have an old Penguin edition edited by Michèle Barrett that has great notes (it even includes some of the notebooks). It looks like this was reissued in 2019. There's also

Hi Jane,

You might look at the editions which include TGs and AROOO.  I have an old Penguin edition edited by Michèle Barrett that has great notes (it even includes some of the notebooks).  It looks like this was reissued in 2019.  There's also an Oxford World's Classics edition of the two together with an intro by Morag Shiach from 2008.  I know it is difficult sometimes getting UK editions in the US.

Best,

Helen

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Subject: [Vwoolf] Seeking help with annotated edition of Three Guineas

Dear all,

I’m wondering what edition of Three Guineas people are using to teach because I ordered the Harcourt paperback (2006) edited by Mark Hussey (with an introduction by Jane Marcus) and was told it was out of print. My campus bookstore substituted this Harper Collins edition and told me it was identical:

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The link says this edition is “by Virginia Woolf, Mark Hussey, and Introduction by Jane Marcus,” but in fact it’s the 1966 Harcourt edition with no introduction, no notes, and no photographs (i.e. not good!).

I have since learned that the Harcourt annotated edition of Three Guineas is only available digitally, but because I have a no computer policy in my classroom that won’t help me.

The 2001 Shakespeare Head edition of Three Guineas, edited by Naomi Black, has fabulous notes but is not available in paperback and the cost is prohibitive.

I’m particularly curious about what the situation is in the UK, regarding Three Guineas.

For those of us in the US, my real question is: how do we get Harcourt to re-publish the annotated paperback?

Thanks for any help!

Jane

Jane Garrity
Associate Professor of English
University of Colorado at Boulder
226 UCB
Boulder, CO 80309-0226
Jane.Garrity at Colorado.Edu<mailto:Jane.Garrity at Colorado.Edu>

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