[Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives

Wed Jul 12 00:37:13 EDT 2023

Hi everyone,

Copyright is very complicated.

Some key terms (from the USian copyright laws at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq-definitions.html__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZDRo0vge$ ):

What is copyright infringement?
As a general matter, copyright infringement occurs when a copyrighted work is reproduced, distributed, performed, publicly displayed, or made into a derivative work without the permission of the copyright owner.

Where is the public domain?
The public domain is not a place. A work of authorship is in the “public domain” if it is no longer under copyright protection or if it failed to meet the requirements for copyright protection. Works in the public domain may be used freely without the permission of the former copyright owner.

We are very, very fortunate that Leonard Woolf and Quentin Bell each endeavored to share such an amazing range of Virginia Woolf's private writings, beginning with A Writer's Diary and bringing those materials out of the archives and into the light.

Below is the citation and the link to a useful article (published in 1985) that can help clarify some of the issues surrounding copyright in the US (even though some changes have been made in the interval).

"COPYRIGHT FOR SCHOLARS" Author(s): PEGGY L. FOX Source: Paideuma: Modern and Contemporary Poetry and Poetics, Vol. 14, No. 1 (Spring 1985), pp. 129-134 Published by: National Poetry Foundation Stable URL: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jstor.org/stable/24723185__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZE5cZFba$ 

Two key quotations from the author, Peggy L. Fox:
"Upon occasion I have found it necessary to protest to a scholarly journal or scholarly author that material has been quoted without proper credit and copyright lines being given (let alone a fee being paid) and have met with resistance on the grounds of 'intellectual freedom"—i.e. the concept that since scholars are engaged in spreading knowledge, they should be allowed to quote whomever they wish at whatever length without acknowledgement or payment to anyone" (129).

and

"...any work published posthumously can secure copyright for 75 years from the date of publication, even if the author has already been dead for a considerable length of time. Thus the unpublished works (letters, notes, unpublished manuscripts) of deceased authors are not in the public domain" (131).

If you cannot access Fox's article through your institution, JSTOR provides the option of free (though limited) access: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jstor.org/register?redirectUri=*2Fstable*2F24723185*3Fread-now*3D1*23page_scan_tab_contents__;JSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZKRSh0-4$ .

And...on a related but different thread...having had to intervene and asked contributors to remove quotations of lyrics from essays that were published in the Miscellany, however resonant with Woolf culture the lyrics might be, I should remind everyone that quoting lyrics without permission from the copyright holder is in a totally different domain of restrictions than "fair use" prose and that it is absolutely unacceptable to quote without formal permission (if you happen to read a book that includes lyrics, you should take a look at the front matter--unless the publisher likes to take on high risk adventures in copyright, you will see a reference to each and every quoted lyric). Embarrassingly, an MLA webpage (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://style.mla.org/formatting-song-lyrics/__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZP_I8adx$ ) instructs users how to quote a song lyric and--to illustrate it the quotation--it offers two lines from Bob Dylan's Blowing in the Wind 😱 (it's cringeworthy that this webpage exists at all).

If you happen to want guidance on quoting lyrics, this source--EliteAuthors.com--seems to be accurate and informative: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://eliteauthors.com/blog/how-to-quote-song-lyrics-in-your-story/__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZCDFNeWH$ .

I know this ramble is somewhat off topic in spots...apologies for any distractions....

Vara

Vara Neverow
(she/her/hers)
Professor, English Department
Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany
Southern Connecticut State University
New Haven, CT 06515
203-392-6717
neverowv1 at southernct.edu

I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.

Recent Publications:

Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Pająk, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka)

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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives

Having just returned from a research trip to the Berg a few weeks ago, I thought I'd chime in. I was able to take hundreds of scans of microfilm pages of Woolf's diaries, with the understanding that they would be for my own use in my book

Having just returned from a research trip to the Berg a few weeks ago, I thought I'd chime in.  I was able to take hundreds of scans of microfilm pages of Woolf's diaries, with the understanding that they would be for my own use in my book project, and that under no circumstances would I upload them or share them on any kind of public platform.  Those are the Berg's rules, at least for the diaries.  Can't vouch for the manuscripts of other works that are in the public domain.

Cheers,

Drew

Drew Shannon, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of English
Coordinator of English
Mount St. Joseph University
5701 Delhi Road
Cincinnati, OH 45233 USA
(513) 244-4541
Drew.Shannon at msj.edu<mailto:Drew.Shannon at msj.edu>
Historian/Bibliographer of the International Virginia Woolf Society

"I meant to write about death, only life came breaking in as usual." -- Virginia Woolf, Diary, 17 February 1922
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So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what’s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines

So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what’s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines of the Beckett Digital Archive, with the Estate and the archives’ involvement? The Estate and the Berg have been nothing but amenable to my own smaller digital edition. There’s certainly an intellectual case to be made for a large-scale project like that – not that I’d have a clue how to get it off the ground.

All my best,

Josh

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Date: Tuesday, 11 July 2023 at 19:48
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Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives

On Jul 11, 2023, at 9: 41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf <vwoolf@ lists. osu. edu> wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom,

On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu<mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>> wrote:

Dear Beverley,

This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, Tate…) would be if people starting uploading images of things they own! But thanks very much for this suggestion about how to get a ball rolling!

All the best,

Mark

From: Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=verizon.net at lists.osu.edu<mailto:vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=verizon.net at lists.osu.edu>> On Behalf Of Beverley Rilett via Vwoolf
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Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I’ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa

Dear Virginia Woolf group,

Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I’ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Cather Archive (U Nebraska), or George Eliot Archive (formerly U Nebraska, now Auburn U), where researchers from all over the world can find and freely download the author's published and unpublished writings, images—including portraits of the author and illustrations of her scenes and characters, and hundreds of contemporary reviews. Increasingly, these sites are also providing the advanced search options and data visualization tools to help drill down into the thousands of texts collected.

Of course, it’s much easier for Victorian and Modern authors who published prior to 1928 (rule-of-thumb in US: copyright on published works lasts 95 years), or who died before 1953 (unpublished works are protected for 70 years after the death of the creator). Those texts and images are now in the public domain and require no permission to republish.

You could make a great start with Virginia Woolf because 6 of her 9 published novels are already in the public domain, and if I'm interpreting US copyright law correctly, all the writing she left unpublished at the time of her death (1941), is also available to be published in manuscript images (with transcriptions and editorial apparatus).

I bet the knowledgeable people on this list could create a wonderful digital archive of Virginia Woolf materials. (If there’s already one, I’m sorry not to know of its existence.) You probably have already collected hundreds of manuscript photos, images, and pdf documents to share. One of you could start by opening a shared Box or Dropbox folder for everyone to contribute your digital materials. I learned by working with the creators of the Cather and Whitman sites and then with students to build the George Eliot Archive and I'd be happy to offer advice and answer questions if you'd like to create a simple website, something like the George Eliot Archive. Take a look (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://GeorgeEliotArchive.org__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZO_yqyBa$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/GeorgeEliotArchive.org__;!!KGKeukY!1x9tHFQ1ez8SOu_wXOJZv43jG2SLVV4MFmVJuCEJg5jLfuWuamwe-pHuYKYqalmIZ_0u4Tw-B9sOGb5zv_oT1okmc5FJEYLhCng$>) and see what you think.

As one of my colleagues often says, "It doesn't start itself."  Also, the old joke about how to eat an elephant may be apt.

Enthusiastically,

Bev

Beverley Park Rilett, Ph.D.

Associate Research Professor

Special Collections and Archives Department

Auburn University Libraries

231 Mell Street, Auburn University, AL 36849

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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published?

It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It’s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional

It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It’s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional picture researcher, for example, whole archives have been bought by wealthy people needing somewhere to park their money, and these typically are impervious to any negotiation. Then again, Peter’s advice is something I’ve followed many times and often successfully when dealing with a human who understands the situation.

Maybe a kind of index to Bloomsbury-related images (an update of Elizabeth Richardson’s invaluable book) would be possible as a crowd-sourced online space? (Says he who has no idea how that might be realized!)

On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 02:34:34 PM PDT, Peter D L Stansky <stansky at stanford.edu<mailto:stansky at stanford.edu>> wrote:

Those are quite fine photos of them I’d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won’t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That’s worked for me when I’ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter

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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published?

Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01: 05: 43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. <neverowv1@ southernct. edu> wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut

Yes!

On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. <neverowv1 at southernct.edu<mailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu>> wrote:

You mean "trespass at once"?

Vara Neverow

(she/her/hers)
Professor, English Department

Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany
Southern Connecticut State University
New Haven, CT 06515
203-392-6717
neverowv1 at southernct.edu<mailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu>

I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.

Recent Publications:

Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Pająk, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka)

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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published?

Oh, I didn’t follow the link just looked at your email.

Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,…

On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. <neverowv1 at southernct.edu<mailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu>> wrote:

Hi Mark,

Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZC5Vswdx$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$>) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image....

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Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish

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Vara

Vara Neverow

(she/her/hers)
Professor, English Department

Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany
Southern Connecticut State University
New Haven, CT 06515
203-392-6717
neverowv1 at southernct.edu<mailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu>

I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.

Recent Publications:

Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Pająk, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka)

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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published?

But the image here (“novelish”!) is not the one Danell sent.

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On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu<mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>> wrote:

Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: © Time Inc. https: //artsandculture. google. com/entity/m080r3

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  *   Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT
  *   Publisher: TimeLife
  *   Usage: For personal non-commercial use only
  *   Provider: LIFE
  *   Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280
  *   Credits: Mansell
  *   Copyright: © Time Inc.

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I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.

Nice find! I can see why it's expensive—Time is not generous.

Vara

Vara Neverow

(she/her/hers)
Professor, English Department

Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany
Southern Connecticut State University
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Recent Publications:

Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Pająk, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka)

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Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published?

Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the

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Hi All,

I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time.

Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared.

Thanks!

Danell

P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI.

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