From kllevenback at att.net Sun Jul 2 08:48:25 2023 From: kllevenback at att.net (Kllevenback) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 08:48:25 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?=5BThe_Washington_Post=5D_Perspective_=7C_Meet?= =?utf-8?q?_the_hottest_early-modern_philosopher=2E_No=2C_that=E2=80=99s_n?= =?utf-8?q?ot_an_oxymoron=E2=80=94Woolf_sighting?= References: <7A290ABD-9C0F-428D-A1FE-BA443B77EDD0.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <7A290ABD-9C0F-428D-A1FE-BA443B77EDD0@att.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Sun Jul 2 09:43:27 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 13:43:27 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?=5BThe_Washington_Post=5D_Perspective_=7C_Meet?= =?utf-8?q?_the_hottest_early-modern_philosopher=2E_No=2C_that=E2=80=99s_n?= =?utf-8?q?ot_an_oxymoron=E2=80=94Woolf_sighting?= In-Reply-To: <7A290ABD-9C0F-428D-A1FE-BA443B77EDD0@att.net> References: <7A290ABD-9C0F-428D-A1FE-BA443B77EDD0.ref@att.net> <7A290ABD-9C0F-428D-A1FE-BA443B77EDD0@att.net> Message-ID: Great article! Thanks for sharing the link, Karen. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Kllevenback via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 8:48 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] [The Washington Post] Perspective | Meet the hottest early-modern philosopher. No, that?s not an oxymoron?Woolf sighting Perspective | Meet the hottest early-modern philosopher. No, that?s not an oxymoron. Margaret Cavendish's brilliant writing was largely neglected in the 1600s, but it's more relevant than ever. Here's where to start with her work. By Anne M.? Perspective | Meet the hottest early-modern philosopher. No, that?s not an oxymoron. Margaret Cavendish's brilliant writing was largely neglected in the 1600s, but it's more relevant than ever. Here's where to start with her work. By Anne M. Thell https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/06/25/margaret-cavendish-reading-guide-400th-birthday/__;!!KGKeukY!wRTNGh-rz5dfEdxkPMskJkywKEsVJHy5USg0i1t-r6_2h9CRoe_Gr9JOAxfOyeSHy4x6RkxtsPwNrIDLnZ5Fhdfhb1A-$ Download The Washington Post app. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/06/25/margaret-cavendish-reading-guide-400th-birthday/__;!!KGKeukY!wRTNGh-rz5dfEdxkPMskJkywKEsVJHy5USg0i1t-r6_2h9CRoe_Gr9JOAxfOyeSHy4x6RkxtsPwNrIDLnZ5Fhdfhb1A-$ Sent from my iPad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ellen.moody at gmail.com Sun Jul 2 10:33:03 2023 From: ellen.moody at gmail.com (Ellen Moody) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 10:33:03 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Can someone tell me who drew this picture? Message-ID: I've attached it. Ellen Moody -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: VirginiaWoolfsCatSappho1947.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 126332 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ellen.moody at gmail.com Sun Jul 2 19:32:35 2023 From: ellen.moody at gmail.com (Ellen Moody) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 19:32:35 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Can someone tell me who drew this picture? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Someone on facebook told me where the picture comes from: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bugart.co.uk/product-category/black-ink/?fbclid=IwAR2YCMnd-TjGHAyxCBM8JfEVrXc2dX-mDBe1IqMDV_bdF4qwP1-JFbZRFQQ__;!!KGKeukY!2QsJZ4al2EcdaEOxfzISzfEtAsy_GhVoJURbyy7JUuyo5X-8RfnmU5R_VPoMpxygwzdJrn44RIrmBJ4MUv6VKNwe4s0vqY7ZbNuz$ Although I'd be inclined to remember best the black cat, the site is called bug.art Ellen On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 11:03?AM Neverow, Vara S. wrote: > It's very sweet. I hope someone can identify it! > > Vara > > Vara Neverow > (she/her/hers) > Professor, English Department > Editor, *Virginia Woolf Miscellany* > Southern Connecticut State University > New Haven, CT 06515 > 203-392-6717 > neverowv1 at southernct.edu > > *I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on > traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the > Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. * > > > *Recent Publications:* > > Lead editor, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources *(Bloomsbury, > 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume > One, 1975-1984, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources* (Bloomsbury, > 2020); Co-editor, *The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and > Contemporary Global Literature* (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, > Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf on > behalf of Ellen Moody via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Sunday, July 2, 2023 10:33 AM > *To:* Woolf Listserv > *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Can someone tell me who drew this picture? > > I've attached it. Ellen Moody ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > I've attached it. > > Ellen Moody > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From M.Humm at uel.ac.uk Mon Jul 3 06:32:54 2023 From: M.Humm at uel.ac.uk (Maggie Humm) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 10:32:54 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] FW: Kabe Wilson Film Launch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For those not on BAMS email circulation - Helen has just shared a link to Kabe's fascinating film. Maggie Emeritus Professor Maggie Humm Vice-Chair, Virginia Woolf Society of Great Britain: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/__;!!KGKeukY!wL7QiGlVOQaEHm1pQ7uyN5wG6DK_mtNmOoLIUJ8ahFCZZG2O3uMwpmXejh_9GjRLATzKF6iKDnnvCYAKVczYQZzUmxhwfurP$ Author of Talland House https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://amzn.to/2UJZ7zF__;!!KGKeukY!wL7QiGlVOQaEHm1pQ7uyN5wG6DK_mtNmOoLIUJ8ahFCZZG2O3uMwpmXejh_9GjRLATzKF6iKDnnvCYAKVczYQZzUmz16vr1S$ 2021 Next Generation Indie Book Awards Finalist in Historical (Fiction - Post 1900s)/2021 Eric Hoffer Award Grand Prize Short List Jan 2023 Radical Woman Gwen John & Rodin https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.eerpublishing.com/humm-radical-woman-gwen-john---rodin.html__;!!KGKeukY!wL7QiGlVOQaEHm1pQ7uyN5wG6DK_mtNmOoLIUJ8ahFCZZG2O3uMwpmXejh_9GjRLATzKF6iKDnnvCYAKVczYQZzUm1hQ7twp$ shortlisted [cid:image001.png at 01D9ADA2.1B0C2BF0] Page Turner Awards 2022 Website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.maggiehumm.net/__;!!KGKeukY!wL7QiGlVOQaEHm1pQ7uyN5wG6DK_mtNmOoLIUJ8ahFCZZG2O3uMwpmXejh_9GjRLATzKF6iKDnnvCYAKVczYQZzUm_9a27lq$ From: British Association for Modernist Studies On Behalf Of Helen Tyson Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 11:26 AM To: BAMS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [BAMS] Kabe Wilson Film Launch Dear friends and colleagues, I'm very pleased to share the link to Kabe Wilson's recent film, Looking for Virginia: An Artist's Journey Through 100 Archives, which launched at the University of Sussex Centre for Modernist Studies in May 2023. In late 2019 Kabe Wilson set out to find two old photos, intending them to be part of birthday gifts. What happened next was not at all what he expected - in the bewildering three years that followed he went back in time through multiple lives, uncovering photos of events he was never aware had happened, social encounters few would believe possible, racist letters, undeveloped negatives and a sketchbook concealing truths about a famous painting. He travelled between Ethiopia and Sussex in both halves of the twentieth century, walked across the Midlands and the Cotswolds, sat with Emperors on the pier and bumped into Virginia Woolf on the Hove seafront. It is a story of beach holidays that never happened or happened on the wrong beaches, refugees lost and found, friends found and lost, a hypermnesic dream, a cliff over a secret train tunnel and a lighthouse now situated in a park. The culmination of his residency at the Centre for Modernist Studies, this multi-media presentation centres around the story of the ten paintings of Brighton and Sussex he produced during the 2020 lockdown period, and the exciting art history discovery that led to one of them becoming the cover image of a new edition of Virginia Woolf's To the Lighthouse. By guiding us through a century of archives, in more than one sense, Kabe challenges our understandings of archival work, showing that every life is a mystery marked by constant overlaps between people, times and places, and how memory and archive can combine to offer vital clues to the past that prove that we are all ultimately and powerfully connected. The film, transcript, and more details about Kabe Wilson's work can all be viewed on the Centre for Modernist Studies website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.sussex.ac.uk/research/centres/centre-for-modernist-studies/artist-in-residence__;!!KGKeukY!wL7QiGlVOQaEHm1pQ7uyN5wG6DK_mtNmOoLIUJ8ahFCZZG2O3uMwpmXejh_9GjRLATzKF6iKDnnvCYAKVczYQZzUmw9hALSl$ . If you have any questions about the film, the Centre for Modernist Studies, or the artist in residence scheme, please do get in touch with me at H.Tyson at sussex.ac.uk. All best wishes, Helen Dr Helen Tyson Pronouns: she/her Lecturer in 20th and 21st Century British Literature Co-Director Centre for Modernist Studies University of Sussex My most recent article: '"Action [...] real and effective": Marion Milner and "Expressive Action"', Critical Quarterly, 63.4 (2021) ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the BAMS list, click the following link: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=BAMS&A=1__;!!KGKeukY!wL7QiGlVOQaEHm1pQ7uyN5wG6DK_mtNmOoLIUJ8ahFCZZG2O3uMwpmXejh_9GjRLATzKF6iKDnnvCYAKVczYQZzUm6wq9zl2$ The information transmitted in this e-mail and its contents is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended addressee you are prohibited from storing, copying or using the information in any way. 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Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 93618 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The CfP with all the information can be found here: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://maailmakeeled.ut.ee/en/content/borders-margins-cartographies-transnational-modernist-womens-writing__;!!KGKeukY!3AZcekaaC4Aq4z-Pp8H-YE6gAUMpdNhi4hnL7BuPFfrXxJvXOGEfmohKLWoh8SXmqoq0OQy4-kseGR4ey0qvjEaLctk$ Feel free to circulate further with those who might be interested. Hope you can have a restful summer, Eret -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Wed Jul 5 07:46:19 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (Mark Hussey) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2023 11:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] [VWoolf] But who really continues to be afraid of VW? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <701932831.2588093.1688557579440@mail.yahoo.com> If anyone can post the whole article (&comments?) that?d be great! On Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 02:55:47 PM PDT, Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf wrote: Dear all A note for the random find of this very odd link: https:?//www.?telegraph.?co.?uk/news/2023/07/01/virginia-woolf-to-the-lighthouse-trigger-warning-vintage/ See comments by Joyce Carol Oates who says that VW was "both intellectualDear all A note for the?random find?of this very odd link: | | https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/01/virginia-woolf-to-the-lighthouse-trigger-warning-vintage/__;!!KGKeukY!3c9N5ALuhGs0_mipzWn2uFoAr6z4o8Oo_f-973HAmn4zC36JCGQSQtDVE8eiouSqjl8URzi3pGx3Ot2mHcB45w$ See comments by Joyce Carol Oates who says that VW was "both intellectual & a brilliant, original writer (...) See also Best wishes to you all - on Independence?Day - for those of you who celebrate!???? | | | Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie? Translations | | | | | | | | Address??Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France.? | | Phone??+33 (0)5 55 88 29 61? | | Mobile?? +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21? | | Email??MC at Clarior.net? | ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? | | | | | | | | | IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof.? | | | | Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. | | | _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For anyone in the mood for more nonsense, assertion presented as argument, and careful cherry-picking of ?evidence?? enjoy! https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thearticle.com/hatred-in-biography-the-case-of-wyndham-lewis__;!!KGKeukY!xq7boTsE9LDgzuk5O7DHpQztqBodXVK7tUkFPwrGNlR42YNWDVxlNsnYnK4Jo5IUALoNPMM_YWg0Ul_ZQZ8lWB8TVdASOA$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Wed Jul 5 14:40:15 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2023 14:40:15 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Wyndham Lewis + Roger Fry In-Reply-To: References: <00c401d9af4c$f13cf6e0$d3b6e4a0$.ref@verizon.net> <00c401d9af4c$f13cf6e0$d3b6e4a0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <004f01d9af70$23e812f0$6bb838d0$@verizon.net> Glad to know it?s not just me then! From: Hagen, Benjamin D Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 1:50 PM To: mhussey at verizon.net; 'vwoolf listerve' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Wyndham Lewis + Roger Fry Judith Ruderman concludes in her 1991 review of the author?s 1990 biography of D.H. Lawrence, ?. . . Meyers's work is long on energy and short on credibility.? From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > Date: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 9:29 AM To: 'vwoolf listerve' > Subject: [Vwoolf] Wyndham Lewis + Roger Fry For anyone in the mood for more nonsense, assertion presented as argument, and careful cherry-picking of ?evidence?? enjoy! https:?//www.?thearticle.?com/hatred-in-biography-the-case-of-wyndham-lewis ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? For anyone in the mood for more nonsense, assertion presented as argument, and careful cherry-picking of ?evidence?? enjoy! https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thearticle.com/hatred-in-biography-the-case-of-wyndham-lewis__;!!KGKeukY!0b4WjKtul-zooG-y2LWUlDTpqzphB3yOET5CZHlzEAjCB3k6_fC14821TITTmD8gt82lZ9-CSHKpIXIgbhZQyg$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com Wed Jul 5 18:48:56 2023 From: stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com (Stuart N. Clarke) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2023 23:48:56 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Wyndham Lewis + Roger Fry In-Reply-To: <004f01d9af70$23e812f0$6bb838d0$@verizon.net> References: <00c401d9af4c$f13cf6e0$d3b6e4a0$.ref@verizon.net><00c401d9af4c$f13cf6e0$d3b6e4a0$@verizon.net> <004f01d9af70$23e812f0$6bb838d0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: A couple of hours ago I was looking at Alpers?s bio of KM and happened to see: ?Meyers (1978) repeats the false allegation against Heseltine? (n4 to ch. XII). Stuart From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 7:40 PM To: 'Hagen, Benjamin D' ; 'vwoolf listerve' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Wyndham Lewis + Roger Fry Glad to know it?s not just me then! From: Hagen, Benjamin D Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 1:?50 PM To: mhussey@?verizon.?net; 'vwoolf listerve' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Wyndham Lewis + Roger Glad to know it?s not just me then! From: Hagen, Benjamin D Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 1:50 PM To: mhussey at verizon.net; 'vwoolf listerve' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Wyndham Lewis + Roger Fry Judith Ruderman concludes in her 1991 review of the author?s 1990 biography of D.H. Lawrence, ?. . . Meyers's work is long on energy and short on credibility.? From: Vwoolf on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Date: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 9:29 AM To: 'vwoolf listerve' Subject: [Vwoolf] Wyndham Lewis + Roger Fry For anyone in the mood for more nonsense, assertion presented as argument, and careful cherry-picking of ?evidence?? enjoy! https:?//www.?thearticle.?com/hatred-in-biography-the-case-of-wyndham-lewis ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? For anyone in the mood for more nonsense, assertion presented as argument, and careful cherry-picking of ?evidence?? enjoy! https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thearticle.com/hatred-in-biography-the-case-of-wyndham-lewis__;!!KGKeukY!wYtTqdn_Ga8AWOqZcsBEgrE3cXM-rF-CwHj3QpMNMxgzvPPHo2XaLpWXM0yqvyk8J-ksdb0jTTJeiK6-jon4RO2CWvouRwMeXQ$ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can still register free on Eventbrite: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/analyzing-virginia-woolfs-orlando-through-henri-bergsons-philosophy-tickets-668406209967__;!!KGKeukY!xApqaPR18sHEMl5Fr3kXvcSrzd7sLwzQdwksStUvmyBz_Ntkk2PSY2O-AlfbegIwJQtpJYj0pfOu5ipTjxrO9Z-rox3URg$ In case you have any problems connecting Eventbrite, please find the Zoom ID and passcode for the meeting copied below: Zoom ID: 995 3746 0511 Zoom Passcode: 136256 For further queries, please contact virginiawoolfturkiye at gmail.com and/or demetkarabulut62 at hotmail.com. All good wishes, Virginia Woolf Society Turkey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Stuart From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 7:?40 PM To: 'Hagen, A couple of hours ago I was looking at Alpers?s bio of KM and happened to see: ?Meyers (1978) repeats the false allegation against Heseltine? (n4 to ch. XII). Stuart From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 7:40 PM To: 'Hagen, Benjamin D' ; 'vwoolf listerve' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Wyndham Lewis + Roger Fry Glad to know it?s not just me then! From: Hagen, Benjamin D Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 1:?50 PM To: mhussey@?verizon.?net; 'vwoolf listerve' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Wyndham Lewis + Roger Glad to know it?s not just me then! From: Hagen, Benjamin D > Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 1:50 PM To: mhussey at verizon.net ; 'vwoolf listerve' > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Wyndham Lewis + Roger Fry Judith Ruderman concludes in her 1991 review of the author?s 1990 biography of D.H. Lawrence, ?. . . Meyers's work is long on energy and short on credibility.? From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > Date: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 9:29 AM To: 'vwoolf listerve' > Subject: [Vwoolf] Wyndham Lewis + Roger Fry For anyone in the mood for more nonsense, assertion presented as argument, and careful cherry-picking of ?evidence?? enjoy! https:?//www.?thearticle.?com/hatred-in-biography-the-case-of-wyndham-lewis ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? For anyone in the mood for more nonsense, assertion presented as argument, and careful cherry-picking of ?evidence?? enjoy! https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thearticle.com/hatred-in-biography-the-case-of-wyndham-lewis__;!!KGKeukY!ziDGYBB55mKLjKevXMYEH6y9mzF7djSfNQOa-sPor3swub8iK0eIZVBQxhiiCUalAyTS3e2siW8_2jk-bggIQg$ _____ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <005d01d9b011$8c1bb920$a4532b60$@verizon.net> References: <005d01d9b011$8c1bb920$a4532b60$.ref@verizon.net> <005d01d9b011$8c1bb920$a4532b60$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1423324453.550763.1688652553494@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Mark, really useful. To be partial for a minute: Excellent news for the Brits in 2025: well done, Helen and Clara! Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Thursday, 6 July 2023 at 14:56:28 BST, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: Confirmed dates for the next two annual conferences on Virginia Woolf: 2024: June 6-9, California SU, FRESNO (organized by Ashley Foster) 2025: July 3 ? 6, U of Sussex (organized by Helen Tyson, co-hosted with Clara Jones, Kings C London) Confirmed dates for the next two annual conferences on Virginia Woolf: ? 2024: June 6-9, California SU, FRESNO (organized by Ashley Foster) ? 2025: July 3 ? 6, U of Sussex (organized by Helen Tyson, co-hosted with Clara Jones, Kings C London) ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From srm10 at cornell.edu Thu Jul 6 12:41:38 2023 From: srm10 at cornell.edu (Shilo McGiff) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2023 12:41:38 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] IVWS Fall Symposium Message-ID: Dear Woolfians, As many of you may already know, the International Virginia Woolf Society will be hosting a virtual symposium later this year in conjunction with its annual Fall Lecture and in collaboration with the organizers of the 2023 Woolf Conference that took place in Fort Myers, FL in early June. The *Fall Symposium (October 20-22, 2023)* will extend the 32nd Annual Conference theme, Woolf & Ecologies. We are pleased to announce that Derek Ryan will deliver the 2023 IVWS Fall Lecture, which will double as the symposium?s plenary address. *You can find more information and the current Cfp here:* Woolf & Ecologies II . Please share with anyone you think may be interested. We look forward to reading your abstracts, to seeing many of you who were not able to travel to Fort Myers this year, to continuing many of the conversations already in progress, and to starting new ones! More specific information about Symposium registration and participation will be available closer to the event. Please send inquiries to Laci Mattison, Ben Hagen, and Shilo McGiff at woolfecologies at gmail.com. All best, Shilo -- Shilo R. McGiff, PhD Virginia Woolf & Ecologies II The Woolf Salon Project Ithaca, NY 14850 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foster at mail.fresnostate.edu Thu Jul 6 13:33:12 2023 From: foster at mail.fresnostate.edu (J. Ashley Foster) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2023 10:33:12 -0700 Subject: [Vwoolf] Announcing the 33rd Annual International Conference on Virginia Woolf: Woolf, Modernity, Technology Message-ID: Dear Friends, It is my pleasure to announce that the 33rd Annual International Conference on Virginia Woolf: Woolf, Modernity, Technology, will be held at California State University, Fresno June 6-9, 2024. We will also have pre- and post- conference trips to Yosemite National Park and Sequoia/Kings Canyon on June 5 and June 9. Any questions should be sent to woolf2024 at mail.fresnostate.edu or to Ashley Foster at foster at csufresno.edu. The call for papers and conference website announcements will be following. For now, please mark your calendars and see the attached flyer to preview the conference art by collaborators Glenn Terpstra and Laura Huisinga. With thanks, Ashley -- J. 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Message-ID: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 219383 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: LW and VW as publishers.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 318192 bytes Desc: not available URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Sat Jul 8 15:01:30 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 19:01:30 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? In-Reply-To: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!y7MMJ1Ym90TKnojOD1NCsimpVQXFlRKUM_KSAbSYhx18g2LwVDyOLm0_uUhBiUJdONVuD0zq8yRHL4O1iQqnx9HlTiUJsRlJPAMRXllr$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AA1T9HKwJTtk7YwNTEgMiBvVx-iu-Y9KlGCWZeE--s_kHb9HUomDVppLl6YX44w7zyHGOnEmy_6Rv5I__;!!KGKeukY!y7MMJ1Ym90TKnojOD1NCsimpVQXFlRKUM_KSAbSYhx18g2LwVDyOLm0_uUhBiUJdONVuD0zq8yRHL4O1iQqnx9HlTiUJsRlJPGUcry-R$ ] Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the [Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish ? Google Arts & Culture] Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 219383 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Sat Jul 8 15:41:44 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (Mark Hussey) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 19:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? In-Reply-To: References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3#yiv7929254789 #yiv7929254789pfptBanner3rdaq07 {display:block !important;visibility:visible !important;background-color:#CFD3D7 !important;max-width:none !important;max-height:none !important;}#yiv7929254789 .yiv7929254789pfptPrimaryButton3rdaq07:hover, #yiv7929254789 .yiv7929254789pfptPrimaryButton3rdaq07:focus {background-color:#adb0b4 !important;}#yiv7929254789 .yiv7929254789pfptPrimaryButton3rdaq07:active {background-color:#8c8e91 !important;}#yiv7929254789 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!yA1VqGXjihMhYhsb6XeH3xsCUsxzXsceorNCEE4A99D4JDX_Qoy_h05sR61_p4OJDw4njarDqCxJcBPZWAL12-umXlh-cknK1g$ | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared.Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 219383 bytes Desc: not available URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Sat Jul 8 15:44:20 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 19:44:20 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? In-Reply-To: <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!2CsFepRbj35sAtYFdqhuHO5bcIkJRjkPT0IehGvPYObwo1B9r3UY060TaAxSBb3yAni32Gpp-r9TgiO8n7d8QooN0teMZI7Zw3fu0fl4$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AJFM8rwCoy-nXXUrX3UkcBBEUysl19FuXiqFcXbYFBMiRbjJncx1YuOlTplOjv2hRATu4KDuwCYwBw__;!!KGKeukY!2CsFepRbj35sAtYFdqhuHO5bcIkJRjkPT0IehGvPYObwo1B9r3UY060TaAxSBb3yAni32Gpp-r9TgiO8n7d8QooN0teMZI7Zwx81g7Tv$ ] Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Mark Hussey Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. ; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!2CsFepRbj35sAtYFdqhuHO5bcIkJRjkPT0IehGvPYObwo1B9r3UY060TaAxSBb3yAni32Gpp-r9TgiO8n7d8QooN0teMZI7Zw3iaj70c$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AA1T9HKwJTtk7YwNTEgMiBvVx-iu-Y9KlGCWZeE--s_kHb9HUomDVppLl6YX44w7zyHGOnEmy_6Rv5I__;!!KGKeukY!2CsFepRbj35sAtYFdqhuHO5bcIkJRjkPT0IehGvPYObwo1B9r3UY060TaAxSBb3yAni32Gpp-r9TgiO8n7d8QooN0teMZI7Zw11XK8Iv$ ] Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the [Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish ? Google Arts & Culture] Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 219383 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Sat Jul 8 16:02:50 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (Mark Hussey) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? In-Reply-To: References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!wIKdvISlP_pqs21CDBcpnBgEN6CNDGvTM0XgUYkYBGsNhsuWjS8V1EaigCbHOTOyxdcG1MHj8bcx8KP3El_5ywF43I8ILuzq9g$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. ; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!wIKdvISlP_pqs21CDBcpnBgEN6CNDGvTM0XgUYkYBGsNhsuWjS8V1EaigCbHOTOyxdcG1MHj8bcx8KP3El_5ywF43I-iVWdcaQ$ | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared.Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 219383 bytes Desc: not available URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Sat Jul 8 16:05:36 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:05:36 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? In-Reply-To: <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Mark Hussey Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net ; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!xQTw-q3HtuSZCAxHIApc9DLA61kKE8hP3odRACDEnOzE50SwAQhBjjvgRPkOvj1TY_AzxySE0JTH_1jF6eRmhnacXN60MNBrNlQl7RLN$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AJFM8rwCoy-nXXUrX3UkcBBEUysl19FuXiqFcXbYFBMiRbjJncx1YuOlTplOjv2hRATu4KDuwCYwBw__;!!KGKeukY!xQTw-q3HtuSZCAxHIApc9DLA61kKE8hP3odRACDEnOzE50SwAQhBjjvgRPkOvj1TY_AzxySE0JTH_1jF6eRmhnacXN60MNBrNhVR21o7$ ] Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Mark Hussey Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. ; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!xQTw-q3HtuSZCAxHIApc9DLA61kKE8hP3odRACDEnOzE50SwAQhBjjvgRPkOvj1TY_AzxySE0JTH_1jF6eRmhnacXN60MNBrNg81myQZ$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AA1T9HKwJTtk7YwNTEgMiBvVx-iu-Y9KlGCWZeE--s_kHb9HUomDVppLl6YX44w7zyHGOnEmy_6Rv5I__;!!KGKeukY!xQTw-q3HtuSZCAxHIApc9DLA61kKE8hP3odRACDEnOzE50SwAQhBjjvgRPkOvj1TY_AzxySE0JTH_1jF6eRmhnacXN60MNBrNr764RDa$ ] Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the [Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish ? Google Arts & Culture] Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 219383 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Sat Jul 8 16:32:23 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (Mark Hussey) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? In-Reply-To: References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net ; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. ; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 219383 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ozma at sover.net Sat Jul 8 16:50:02 2023 From: ozma at sover.net (Gretchen Gerzina) Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2023 16:50:02 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Message-ID: <51EBF47E-DE78-41B3-B7F2-0476B8AD3D3F@sover.net> !-------------------------------------------------------------------| This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. |-------------------------------------------------------------------! Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu " >, "danelljones at bresnan.net " >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215 at mail.yahoo.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That's excellent advice, Gretchen. And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu " >, "danelljones at bresnan.net " >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215 at mail.yahoo.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Those are quite fine photos of them I?d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won?t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That?s worked for me when I?ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 1:32 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu; danelljones at bresnan.net; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:?05:?43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net ; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!ynjF4j8aswM2-TUS9h1PNxzVk3h7GOS9KnHrYBnnI4dGWtj1XQsX39anglWx73KbywDHTZNQK1NSGmG3SvZ-mByoeC0W70q0tWow$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AJFM8rwCoy-nXXUrX3UkcBBEUysl19FuXiqFcXbYFBMiRbjJncx1YuOlTplOjv2hRATu4KDuwCYwBw__;!!KGKeukY!ynjF4j8aswM2-TUS9h1PNxzVk3h7GOS9KnHrYBnnI4dGWtj1XQsX39anglWx73KbywDHTZNQK1NSGmG3SvZ-mByoeC0W7-tczHya$ ] Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. ; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!ynjF4j8aswM2-TUS9h1PNxzVk3h7GOS9KnHrYBnnI4dGWtj1XQsX39anglWx73KbywDHTZNQK1NSGmG3SvZ-mByoeC0W77ULQ81V$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AA1T9HKwJTtk7YwNTEgMiBvVx-iu-Y9KlGCWZeE--s_kHb9HUomDVppLl6YX44w7zyHGOnEmy_6Rv5I__;!!KGKeukY!ynjF4j8aswM2-TUS9h1PNxzVk3h7GOS9KnHrYBnnI4dGWtj1XQsX39anglWx73KbywDHTZNQK1NSGmG3SvZ-mByoeC0W78TEJ8u_$ ] Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the [Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish ? Google Arts & Culture] Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point). Best wishes Alice On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf wrote: That's excellent advice, Gretchen. And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu " >, "danelljones at bresnan.net " >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215 at mail.yahoo.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From sbarkway at btinternet.com Sun Jul 9 02:06:02 2023 From: sbarkway at btinternet.com (sbarkway at btinternet.com) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2023 07:06:02 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo In-Reply-To: References: <51EBF47E-DE78-41B3-B7F2-0476B8AD3D3F@sover.net> <042001d9b1df$b6627730$23276590$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <02d001d9b22b$7070aa70$5151ff50$@btinternet.com> I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:00 AM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Gretchen Gerzina Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and was amazed to discover that it actually happened, the shots accompanying an article about Leonard and Virginia as cutting edge publishers). I can dig out the reference for you ? just email and we can sleuth together! I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point). Best wishes Alice On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf > wrote: That's excellent advice, Gretchen. And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu " >, "danelljones at bresnan.net " >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215 at mail.yahoo.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ > ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ > | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Clarke) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2023 08:40:22 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo Message-ID: I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost 3 years since we discussed it. Stuart From: Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:06 AM To: 'Alice Staveley' ; danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Gretchen Gerzina' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via VwoolfSent:? I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:00 AM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Gretchen Gerzina Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and was amazed to discover that it actually happened, the shots accompanying an article about Leonard and Virginia as cutting edge publishers). I can dig out the reference for you ? just email and we can sleuth together! I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point). Best wishes Alice On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf wrote: That's excellent advice, Gretchen. And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%3e" >, "mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%20%3cmailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%3e" >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From sbarkway at btinternet.com Sun Jul 9 06:20:02 2023 From: sbarkway at btinternet.com (sbarkway at btinternet.com) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2023 11:20:02 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <035201d9b24e$ec5866f0$c50934d0$@btinternet.com> Thanks Stuart . . . O dear, my memory is not what it was! ? Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:40 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost 3 years since we discussed it. Stuart From: Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:06 AM To: 'Alice Staveley' ; danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Gretchen Gerzina' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via VwoolfSent:? I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:00 AM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Gretchen Gerzina > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and was amazed to discover that it actually happened, the shots accompanying an article about Leonard and Virginia as cutting edge publishers). I can dig out the reference for you ? just email and we can sleuth together! I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point). Best wishes Alice On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf > wrote: That's excellent advice, Gretchen. And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%3e" >, "mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%20%3cmailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%3e" >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ > ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ > | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Sun Jul 9 08:04:14 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (Mark Hussey) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2023 12:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? In-Reply-To: References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <21171572.1534688.1688904254552@mail.yahoo.com> It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional picture researcher, for example, whole archives have been bought by wealthy people needing somewhere to park their money, and these typically are impervious to any negotiation. Then again, Peter?s advice is something I?ve followed many times and often successfully when dealing with a human who understands the situation.Maybe a kind of index to Bloomsbury-related images (an update of Elizabeth Richardson?s invaluable book) would be possible as a crowd-sourced online space? (Says he who has no idea how that might be realized!) On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 02:34:34 PM PDT, Peter D L Stansky wrote: Those are quite fine photos of them I?d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won?t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That?s worked for me when I?ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 1:32 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu;danelljones at bresnan.net; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? ? Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:?05:?43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut Yes!? ? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: ? ? You mean "trespass at once"? ? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu ? I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? ? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ? From: Mark Hussey Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net ; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? ? Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? ? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: ? ? Hi Mark, ? Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!wvMAifEawNlUnyWagxMy7CrKjUCt1D6pM4_qhn2ldTmTlvIt_QWn6vr-nG1C8snRi9W1HmOX8Xccv-n1dIQCO5yGZbkZttbTKA$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com | Vara ? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu ? I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? ? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ? From: Mark Hussey Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. ; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? ? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS ? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!wvMAifEawNlUnyWagxMy7CrKjUCt1D6pM4_qhn2ldTmTlvIt_QWn6vr-nG1C8snRi9W1HmOX8Xccv-n1dIQCO5yGZbkrNsa64Q$ | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? ? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? ? Vara ? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu ? I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? ? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ? From: Vwoolf on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? ? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared.Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: FE836E1179B84DFE931A463490C7A5C4.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 99221 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: A2305B426CE14C4188B950D9EE3089BD.png Type: image/png Size: 158 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 8BA44980817F4100AC4F9D53C05B6348.png Type: image/png Size: 159 bytes Desc: not available URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Sun Jul 9 08:46:45 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2023 12:46:45 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo In-Reply-To: <035201d9b24e$ec5866f0$c50934d0$@btinternet.com> References: <035201d9b24e$ec5866f0$c50934d0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: A gathering of sleuths!! What Mark said about seizing vast collections of photographs for private collections has certainly affected the ways that visual information has been restricted. Is there any trace of who took the photo? I am wondering whether it might have been E. O. Hopp? (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._O._Hopp**A__;w6k!!KGKeukY!zp6BYGKd96qTMhjaOZkTRlRndeC96Ls2YkaiPSEjprdkmPkz0LnDBqL7mplqJ55xK_4M23TeAUUNT7nu60lBjuneGZTK$ ) who lost access to his own photographs when he sold them to Mansell Collection, which was absorbed into Getty and Time/Life: "Although Hopp? was one of the most important photographic artists of his era and highly celebrated in his time, in 1954, at the age of 76, he sold his body of photographic work to a commercial London picture archive, the Mansell Collection." Searching for Hopp? and Woolf in this hunt, I came upon an interesting article from the New Yorker (serendipitously published on July 9, 2014, nine years ago today) titled "Virginia Woolf's Idea of Privacy" by Joshua Rothman that features a photo by Hopp?: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.newyorker.com/books/joshua-rothman/virginia-woolfs-idea-of-privacy__;!!KGKeukY!zp6BYGKd96qTMhjaOZkTRlRndeC96Ls2YkaiPSEjprdkmPkz0LnDBqL7mplqJ55xK_4M23TeAUUNT7nu60lBjuAEazWI$ . Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women?s and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples. From: Vwoolf on behalf of Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 6:20:02 AM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo Thanks Stuart . . . O dear, my memory is not what it was! ? Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:?40 AMTo: vwoolf@?lists.?osu.?eduSubject: Thanks Stuart . . . O dear, my memory is not what it was! ? Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:40 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost 3 years since we discussed it. Stuart From: Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:06 AM To: 'Alice Staveley' ; danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Gretchen Gerzina' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via VwoolfSent: I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:00 AM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Gretchen Gerzina Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and was amazed to discover that it actually happened, the shots accompanying an article about Leonard and Virginia as cutting edge publishers). I can dig out the reference for you ? just email and we can sleuth together! I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point). Best wishes Alice On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf wrote: That's excellent advice, Gretchen. And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%3e" >, "mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%20%3cmailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%3e" >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From sbarkway at btinternet.com Sun Jul 9 10:28:05 2023 From: sbarkway at btinternet.com (sbarkway at btinternet.com) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2023 15:28:05 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo In-Reply-To: References: <035201d9b24e$ec5866f0$c50934d0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <041801d9b271$933ce370$b9b6aa50$@btinternet.com> Thanks for the interesting links Vara. No VW, but here?s VSW by Hopp? (1916). Stephen From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 1:47 PM To: sbarkway at btinternet.com; 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo A gathering of sleuths!! What Mark said about seizing vast collections of photographs for private collections has certainly affected the ways that visual information has been restricted. Is there any trace of who took the photo? I am wondering whether it might have been E. O. Hopp? ( https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._O._Hopp**A__;w6k!!KGKeukY!2yIJcsT3wKTyuDZ1HuW4M2QWKdhVpAvQjvzWoGKQFjlEgZivdfzOtSRBPo_tGevUQcFL-4vZ05AkIAXkRNgBCQWs$ ) who lost access to his own photographs when he sold them to Mansell Collection, which was absorbed into Getty and Time/Life: "Although Hopp? was one of the most important photographic artists of his era and highly celebrated in his time, in 1954, at the age of 76, he sold his body of photographic work to a commercial London picture archive, the Mansell Collection." Searching for Hopp? and Woolf in this hunt, I came upon an interesting article from the New Yorker (serendipitously published on July 9, 2014, nine years ago today) titled "Virginia Woolf's Idea of Privacy" by Joshua Rothman that features a photo by Hopp?: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.newyorker.com/books/joshua-rothman/virginia-woolfs-idea-of-privacy__;!!KGKeukY!2yIJcsT3wKTyuDZ1HuW4M2QWKdhVpAvQjvzWoGKQFjlEgZivdfzOtSRBPo_tGevUQcFL-4vZ05AkIAXkRAA62NVN$ . Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women?s and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples. From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 6:20:02 AM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' >; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo Thanks Stuart . . . O dear, my memory is not what it was! ? Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:?40 AMTo: vwoolf@?lists.?osu.?eduSubject: Thanks Stuart . . . O dear, my memory is not what it was! ? Stephen From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:40 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost 3 years since we discussed it. Stuart From: Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:06 AM To: 'Alice Staveley' ; danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Gretchen Gerzina' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via VwoolfSent: I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:00 AM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Gretchen Gerzina > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and was amazed to discover that it actually happened, the shots accompanying an article about Leonard and Virginia as cutting edge publishers). I can dig out the reference for you ? just email and we can sleuth together! I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point). Best wishes Alice On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf > wrote: That's excellent advice, Gretchen. And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%3e" >, "mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%20%3cmailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%3e" >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ > ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ > | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 31707 bytes Desc: not available URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Sun Jul 9 10:34:47 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2023 14:34:47 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo In-Reply-To: <041801d9b271$933ce370$b9b6aa50$@btinternet.com> References: <035201d9b24e$ec5866f0$c50934d0$@btinternet.com> <041801d9b271$933ce370$b9b6aa50$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Ooh! Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women?s and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples. ________________________________ From: sbarkway at btinternet.com Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 10:28:05 AM To: Neverow, Vara S. ; 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: RE: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo Thanks for the interesting links Vara. No VW, but here?s VSW by Hopp? (1916). Stephen [cid:image002.jpg at 01D9B279.F498ECB0] From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 1:47 PM To: sbarkway at btinternet.com; 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo A gathering of sleuths!! What Mark said about seizing vast collections of photographs for private collections has certainly affected the ways that visual information has been restricted. Is there any trace of who took the photo? I am wondering whether it might have been E. O. Hopp? (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._O._Hopp**A__;w6k!!KGKeukY!wDE8S6bbK0VymZ-9vesADfLkRtYl_0oMMS8hD4KLxpXcYN6ZkTcpo2ZZ5yP_qR6hpy-0F0KHEYkQtPh3b9c3_flFo5Uc$ ) who lost access to his own photographs when he sold them to Mansell Collection, which was absorbed into Getty and Time/Life: "Although Hopp? was one of the most important photographic artists of his era and highly celebrated in his time, in 1954, at the age of 76, he sold his body of photographic work to a commercial London picture archive, the Mansell Collection." Searching for Hopp? and Woolf in this hunt, I came upon an interesting article from the New Yorker (serendipitously published on July 9, 2014, nine years ago today) titled "Virginia Woolf's Idea of Privacy" by Joshua Rothman that features a photo by Hopp?: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.newyorker.com/books/joshua-rothman/virginia-woolfs-idea-of-privacy__;!!KGKeukY!wDE8S6bbK0VymZ-9vesADfLkRtYl_0oMMS8hD4KLxpXcYN6ZkTcpo2ZZ5yP_qR6hpy-0F0KHEYkQtPh3b9c3_cImR-og$ . Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women?s and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples. From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 6:20:02 AM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' >; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo Thanks Stuart . . . O dear, my memory is not what it was! ? Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:?40 AMTo: vwoolf@?lists.?osu.?eduSubject: Thanks Stuart . . . O dear, my memory is not what it was! ? Stephen From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:40 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost 3 years since we discussed it. Stuart From: Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:06 AM To: 'Alice Staveley' ; danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Gretchen Gerzina' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via VwoolfSent: I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:00 AM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Gretchen Gerzina > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and was amazed to discover that it actually happened, the shots accompanying an article about Leonard and Virginia as cutting edge publishers). I can dig out the reference for you ? just email and we can sleuth together! I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point). Best wishes Alice On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf > wrote: That's excellent advice, Gretchen. And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%3e" >, "mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%20%3cmailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%3e" >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ > ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ > | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 31707 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com Sun Jul 9 10:51:40 2023 From: stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com (Stuart N. Clarke) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2023 15:51:40 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo In-Reply-To: <047c01d9b26a$e337c220$a9a74660$@bresnan.net> References: <047c01d9b26a$e337c220$a9a74660$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <6986DE16D96D4AA5822BE22E8B3A84E3@StuartHP> 1. C. K. S. is Clement King Shorter: ?In 1900, he founded Sphere, which he edited up until his death in 1926.? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Shorter__;!!KGKeukY!1hb-ystj2YA8S8E1X0PQFYyTiA3NLFqGkxU9w_Og34E-KKtFQfAYZBUU9fPs5n-jnOd7pGvyCulAKyx7Y7iVEVIPZkubHIP_PA$ VW calls him a ?reptile? in letter #744. 2. Note the ref. in the article to ?good stories? (middle col. nr bottom). I have raised this issue on an earlier occasion on the list (but not clearly I think) over ?the battle of life?. Usually, when VW uses quote marks in her essays, she?s quoting, but sometimes they are what is now oddly called ?scare quotes?. I don?t think Andrew McNeillie fully appreciated this, for (e.g.) when VW wrote ?something which is called ?the battle of life?? (E4 426), he annotates it as ?The source of this apparent quotation has not been discovered? (E4 428 n3). Perhaps I, too, had the same problem: for ?good stories? and ?interesting opinions?, see E6 327 and 328 n4. Stuart From: danelljones at bresnan.net Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 2:40 PM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: RE: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo Eureka! Thank you so much Stuart, Stephen, and Alice! It is, indeed, in The Sphere and I was able to find it on the British Newspaper Archive once I had the title of the article. I did a search of words in the caption earlier but came up with nothing. Sometimes databases hide their treasures. I?m attaching it here. We really are a gathering of sleuths! I would gladly add what I have learned about getting licensing for photographs to some kind of information pool. My book is being sold a trade book so, I believe, the picture libraries are charging me more than they would for an academic publication. I?ve also discovered that it depends on how long your publisher can wait to get the permissions?sometimes it can take months, so they just go with a picture collection that works faster. But Maggie Humm is the person who has done the most with getting images. I?m sure she has lots of stories to tell! Thank everyone again. I so appreciate this. Danell From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 1:40 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost 3 years since we discussed it. Stuart From: Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:06 AM To: 'Alice Staveley' ; danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Gretchen Gerzina' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via VwoolfSent:? I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:00 AM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Gretchen Gerzina Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and was amazed to discover that it actually happened, the shots accompanying an article about Leonard and Virginia as cutting edge publishers). I can dig out the reference for you ? just email and we can sleuth together! I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point). Best wishes Alice On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf wrote: That's excellent advice, Gretchen. And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%3e" >, "mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%20%3cmailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%3e" >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From danelljones at bresnan.net Mon Jul 10 09:16:53 2023 From: danelljones at bresnan.net (danelljones at bresnan.net) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 07:16:53 -0600 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo In-Reply-To: <035201d9b24e$ec5866f0$c50934d0$@btinternet.com> References: <035201d9b24e$ec5866f0$c50934d0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <04c601d9b330$cc68e990$653abcb0$@bresnan.net> Thank you so, so much Stuart, Stephen, and Alice. Although I had searched the British Newspaper Archive with the words from the caption, I couldn?t find it. With the title of the article, I now have it! I so appreciate this gathering of sleuths! Thank you again, Danell From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 4:20 AM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo Thanks Stuart . . . O dear, my memory is not what it was! ? Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:?40 AMTo: vwoolf@?lists.?osu.?eduSubject:? Thanks Stuart . . . O dear, my memory is not what it was! ? Stephen From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:40 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost 3 years since we discussed it. Stuart From: Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:06 AM To: 'Alice Staveley' ; danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Gretchen Gerzina' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via VwoolfSent:? I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:00 AM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Gretchen Gerzina > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and was amazed to discover that it actually happened, the shots accompanying an article about Leonard and Virginia as cutting edge publishers). I can dig out the reference for you ? just email and we can sleuth together! I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point). Best wishes Alice On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf > wrote: That's excellent advice, Gretchen. And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%3e" >, "mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%20%3cmailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%3e" >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ > ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ > | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 18:23:03 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo In-Reply-To: <6986DE16D96D4AA5822BE22E8B3A84E3@StuartHP> References: <047c01d9b26a$e337c220$a9a74660$@bresnan.net> <6986DE16D96D4AA5822BE22E8B3A84E3@StuartHP> Message-ID: Stuart mentioned "scare quotes." so I went hunting because I had never seen that phrase before. This Wikipedia article is quite informative (and rather lively!): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes__;!!KGKeukY!w36OFXgL0I6D74EC0JAtFO2qScRalC3FhHui5-pEebM5vTMahXlHlCtnPVF2vcu0s46SPyMAto59Oc6L4TcshAx-iPsx$ . As it indicates, there are other rather amusing alternative terms for this technique. They are "also called shudder quotes,[1][2] sneer quotes,[3] and quibble marks," and G. E. M. Anscombe (Elizabeth Anscombe), a British analytic philosopher, crafted the term in 1956. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 10:51 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo 1. C. K. S. is Clement King Shorter: ?In 1900, he founded Sphere, which he edited up until his death in 1926.?? https:?//en.?wikipedia.?org/wiki/Clement_Shorter VW calls him a ?reptile? in letter #744. 2. Note the ref. in the article to ?good stories? 1. C. K. S. is Clement King Shorter: ?In 1900, he founded Sphere, which he edited up until his death in 1926.? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Shorter__;!!KGKeukY!w36OFXgL0I6D74EC0JAtFO2qScRalC3FhHui5-pEebM5vTMahXlHlCtnPVF2vcu0s46SPyMAto59Oc6L4TcshAt4zLKn$ VW calls him a ?reptile? in letter #744. 2. Note the ref. in the article to ?good stories? (middle col. nr bottom). I have raised this issue on an earlier occasion on the list (but not clearly I think) over ?the battle of life?. Usually, when VW uses quote marks in her essays, she?s quoting, but sometimes they are what is now oddly called ?scare quotes?. I don?t think Andrew McNeillie fully appreciated this, for (e.g.) when VW wrote ?something which is called ?the battle of life?? (E4 426), he annotates it as ?The source of this apparent quotation has not been discovered? (E4 428 n3). Perhaps I, too, had the same problem: for ?good stories? and ?interesting opinions?, see E6 327 and 328 n4. Stuart From: danelljones at bresnan.net Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 2:40 PM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: RE: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo Eureka! Thank you so much Stuart, Stephen, and Alice! It is, indeed, in The Sphere and I was able to find it on the British Newspaper Archive once I had the title of the article. I did a search of words in the caption earlier but came up with nothing. Sometimes databases hide their treasures. I?m attaching it here. We really are a gathering of sleuths! I would gladly add what I have learned about getting licensing for photographs to some kind of information pool. My book is being sold a trade book so, I believe, the picture libraries are charging me more than they would for an academic publication. I?ve also discovered that it depends on how long your publisher can wait to get the permissions?sometimes it can take months, so they just go with a picture collection that works faster. But Maggie Humm is the person who has done the most with getting images. I?m sure she has lots of stories to tell! Thank everyone again. I so appreciate this. Danell From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 1:40 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost 3 years since we discussed it. Stuart From: Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:06 AM To: 'Alice Staveley' ; danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Gretchen Gerzina' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via VwoolfSent:? I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:00 AM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Gretchen Gerzina Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and was amazed to discover that it actually happened, the shots accompanying an article about Leonard and Virginia as cutting edge publishers). I can dig out the reference for you ? just email and we can sleuth together! I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point). Best wishes Alice On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf wrote: That's excellent advice, Gretchen. And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%3e" >, "mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%20%3cmailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%3e" >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ > ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ > | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com Mon Jul 10 15:24:14 2023 From: stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com (stuart.n.clarke) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 20:24:14 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo In-Reply-To: References: <047c01d9b26a$e337c220$a9a74660$@bresnan.net> <6986DE16D96D4AA5822BE22E8B3A84E3@StuartHP> Message-ID: <4667e922.61c8.1894142f6e6.Webtop.96@btinternet.com> I?would?call?them?"distancing?inverted?commas". Stuart?------ Original Message ------ On Monday, 10 Jul, 2023 At 19:23, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: Stuart mentioned "scare quotes." so I went hunting because I had never seen that phrase before. This Wikipedia article is quite informative (and rather lively!):?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes__;!!KGKeukY!yEPoxHl0JFgOUDoxwQE61y_kitr8Vlt9MAIqLS5ZxOQZqknLgwaiOgpSkHPviwOI99FiBsgZJpF4hd-IjR6K28wlEd40YuMEjQ$ . As it indicates, there are other rather amusing alternative terms for this technique. They are "also called?shudder quotes,[1] [2] ?sneer quotes,[3] ?and?quibble marks,"?and G. E. M. Anscombe (Elizabeth Anscombe), a British analytic philosopher, crafted the term in?1956.? Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 10:51 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo ? 1. C. K. S. is Clement King Shorter: ?In 1900, he founded Sphere, which he edited up until his death in 1926.?? https:?//en.?wikipedia.?org/wiki/Clement_Shorter VW calls him a ?reptile? in letter #744. 2. Note the ref. in the article to ?good stories? 1. C. K. S. is Clement King Shorter: ?In 1900, he founded?Sphere , which he edited up until his death in 1926.? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Shorter__;!!KGKeukY!yEPoxHl0JFgOUDoxwQE61y_kitr8Vlt9MAIqLS5ZxOQZqknLgwaiOgpSkHPviwOI99FiBsgZJpF4hd-IjR6K28wlEd50MUTGBQ$ VW calls him a ?reptile? in letter #744. ? 2. Note the ref. in the article to ?good stories? (middle col. nr bottom).? I have raised this issue on an earlier occasion on the list (but not clearly I think) over ?the battle of life?.? Usually, when VW uses quote marks in her essays, she?s quoting, but sometimes they are what is now oddly called ?scare quotes?.? I don?t think Andrew McNeillie fully appreciated this, for (e.g.) when VW wrote ?something which is called ?the battle of life?? (E4 426), he annotates it as ?The source of this apparent quotation has not been discovered? (E4 428 n3).? Perhaps I, too, had the same problem: for ?good stories? and ?interesting opinions?, see E6 327 and 328 n4. ? Stuart ? ? From: danelljones at bresnan.net Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 2:40 PM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: RE: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo ? Eureka! ? Thank you so much Stuart, Stephen, and Alice! It is, indeed, in The Sphere and I was able to find it on the British Newspaper Archive once I had the title of the article. ? I did a search of words in the caption earlier but came up with nothing. Sometimes databases hide their treasures. ? I?m attaching it here. ? We really are a gathering of sleuths! ? I would gladly add what I have learned about getting licensing for photographs to some kind of information pool. My book is being sold a trade book so, I believe, the picture libraries are charging me more than they would for an academic publication. I?ve also discovered that it depends on how long your publisher can wait to get the permissions?sometimes it can take months, so they just go with a picture collection that works faster. ? But Maggie Humm is the person who has done the most with getting images. I?m sure she has lots of stories to tell! ? Thank everyone again. I so appreciate this. ? Danell ? From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 1:40 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo ? I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost ? I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen!? Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive?? It?s almost 3 years since we discussed it. ? Stuart ? From: Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:06 AM To: 'Alice Staveley' ; danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Gretchen Gerzina' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo ? I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via VwoolfSent:? I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen ? From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:00 AM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Gretchen Gerzina Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo ? Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and Hi Danell, ? So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and was amazed to discover that it actually happened, the shots accompanying an article about Leonard and Virginia as cutting edge publishers).? I can dig out the reference for you ? just email and we can sleuth together!? I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point).?? ? Best wishes Alice ? ? ? ? On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf wrote: ? That's excellent advice, Gretchen.? And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%3e" >, "mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%20%3cmailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%3e" >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ > ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ > | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 19:34:04 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo In-Reply-To: <4667e922.61c8.1894142f6e6.Webtop.96@btinternet.com> References: <047c01d9b26a$e337c220$a9a74660$@bresnan.net> <6986DE16D96D4AA5822BE22E8B3A84E3@StuartHP> <4667e922.61c8.1894142f6e6.Webtop.96@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Very neutral and precise! Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women?s and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples. ________________________________ From: stuart.n.clarke Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 3:24:14 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo I would call them "distancing inverted commas". Stuart ------ Original Message ------ On Monday, 10 Jul, 2023 At 19:23, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: Stuart mentioned "scare quotes." so I went hunting because I had never seen that phrase before. This Wikipedia article is quite informative (and rather lively!): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes__;!!KGKeukY!zU3Vvt7C36dT-rpAvJHEfEBFz6v6_SHjLYM6mb9GnEooOhwNtoDAjhPBV1MWNm1m8DS0RaHHRaG6Ctr67xuLW8byksAE$ . As it indicates, there are other rather amusing alternative terms for this technique. They are "also called shudder quotes,[1][2] sneer quotes,[3] and quibble marks," and G. E. M. Anscombe (Elizabeth Anscombe), a British analytic philosopher, crafted the term in 1956. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 10:51 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo 1. C. K. S. is Clement King Shorter: ?In 1900, he founded Sphere, which he edited up until his death in 1926.?? https:?//en.?wikipedia.?org/wiki/Clement_Shorter VW calls him a ?reptile? in letter #744. 2. Note the ref. in the article to ?good stories? 1. C. K. S. is Clement King Shorter: ?In 1900, he founded Sphere, which he edited up until his death in 1926.? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Shorter__;!!KGKeukY!zU3Vvt7C36dT-rpAvJHEfEBFz6v6_SHjLYM6mb9GnEooOhwNtoDAjhPBV1MWNm1m8DS0RaHHRaG6Ctr67xuLW0J6lxMb$ VW calls him a ?reptile? in letter #744. 2. Note the ref. in the article to ?good stories? (middle col. nr bottom). I have raised this issue on an earlier occasion on the list (but not clearly I think) over ?the battle of life?. Usually, when VW uses quote marks in her essays, she?s quoting, but sometimes they are what is now oddly called ?scare quotes?. I don?t think Andrew McNeillie fully appreciated this, for (e.g.) when VW wrote ?something which is called ?the battle of life?? (E4 426), he annotates it as ?The source of this apparent quotation has not been discovered? (E4 428 n3). Perhaps I, too, had the same problem: for ?good stories? and ?interesting opinions?, see E6 327 and 328 n4. Stuart From: danelljones at bresnan.net Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 2:40 PM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: RE: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo Eureka! Thank you so much Stuart, Stephen, and Alice! It is, indeed, in The Sphere and I was able to find it on the British Newspaper Archive once I had the title of the article. I did a search of words in the caption earlier but came up with nothing. Sometimes databases hide their treasures. I?m attaching it here. We really are a gathering of sleuths! I would gladly add what I have learned about getting licensing for photographs to some kind of information pool. My book is being sold a trade book so, I believe, the picture libraries are charging me more than they would for an academic publication. I?ve also discovered that it depends on how long your publisher can wait to get the permissions?sometimes it can take months, so they just go with a picture collection that works faster. But Maggie Humm is the person who has done the most with getting images. I?m sure she has lots of stories to tell! Thank everyone again. I so appreciate this. Danell From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 1:40 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost 3 years since we discussed it. Stuart From: Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:06 AM To: 'Alice Staveley' ; danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Gretchen Gerzina' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via VwoolfSent:? I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:00 AM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Gretchen Gerzina Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and was amazed to discover that it actually happened, the shots accompanying an article about Leonard and Virginia as cutting edge publishers). I can dig out the reference for you ? just email and we can sleuth together! I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point). Best wishes Alice On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf wrote: That's excellent advice, Gretchen. And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%3e" >, "mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%20%3cmailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%3e" >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ > ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ > | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: *VW in the Summer Festival news in France... !! ??* https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lemonde.fr/culture/article/2023/07/10/festival-d-avignon-avec-ecrire-sa-vie-pauline-bayle-echoue-a-incarner-l-univers-de-virginia-woolf_6181304_3246.html__;!!KGKeukY!1PRB3bRcQF8e4rtyteSlTewoD-2pVmkOmIzPmpsg6ez0dHK9h9yGFj87n5yqHcOwnzXO_086DRSvsQ$ https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lesechos.fr/weekend/spectacles-musique/avignon-2023-fin-de-party-chez-virginia-woolf-1960505__;!!KGKeukY!1PRB3bRcQF8e4rtyteSlTewoD-2pVmkOmIzPmpsg6ez0dHK9h9yGFj87n5yqHcOwnzXO_08x1_-Ncg$ https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/111759-003-A/une-chambre-a-soi-de-virginia-woolf-arte-book-club/__;!!KGKeukY!1PRB3bRcQF8e4rtyteSlTewoD-2pVmkOmIzPmpsg6ez0dHK9h9yGFj87n5yqHcOwnzXO_0-J4yrmNA$ Hope you are all well. With Best Wishes ?? Marie-Claire ****** Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. 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Message-ID: *VW in the Summer Festival news in France... !! ??* https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lemonde.fr/culture/article/2023/07/10/festival-d-avignon-avec-ecrire-sa-vie-pauline-bayle-echoue-a-incarner-l-univers-de-virginia-woolf_6181304_3246.html__;!!KGKeukY!yw5vS31prPuC9G_k0uKp786_WYExTI-oFSiaoOMMc4BH3A2Tda5TusIeue6c9EoEhY8VLlYX-MqquilZEs5lmaH0Qw$ https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lesechos.fr/weekend/spectacles-musique/avignon-2023-fin-de-party-chez-virginia-woolf-1960505__;!!KGKeukY!yw5vS31prPuC9G_k0uKp786_WYExTI-oFSiaoOMMc4BH3A2Tda5TusIeue6c9EoEhY8VLlYX-MqquilZEs4_MSc5zQ$ https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/111759-003-A/une-chambre-a-soi-de-virginia-woolf-arte-book-club/__;!!KGKeukY!yw5vS31prPuC9G_k0uKp786_WYExTI-oFSiaoOMMc4BH3A2Tda5TusIeue6c9EoEhY8VLlYX-MqquilZEs7-kGTyDw$ Hope you are all well. With Best Wishes ?? Marie-Claire ****** Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danelljones at bresnan.net Mon Jul 10 17:54:26 2023 From: danelljones at bresnan.net (danelljones at bresnan.net) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 15:54:26 -0600 Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? In-Reply-To: <21171572.1534688.1688904254552@mail.yahoo.com> References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> <21171572.1534688.1688904254552@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <06d001d9b379$19bb4ba0$4d31e2e0$@bresnan.net> In the for-what-it?s-worth-department, I am licensing images from * The National Portrait Gallery * Bridgeman Images * Harvard Houghton Library * Shutterstock * Mary Evans Picture Library * National Trust Images (great images of Monks House) And several other places for non-VW images. Danell From: Mark Hussey Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 6:04 AM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu; danelljones at bresnan.net; Neverow, Vara S. ; Peter D L Stansky Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional picture researcher, for example, whole archives have been bought by wealthy people needing somewhere to park their money, and these typically are impervious to any negotiation. Then again, Peter?s advice is something I?ve followed many times and often successfully when dealing with a human who understands the situation. Maybe a kind of index to Bloomsbury-related images (an update of Elizabeth Richardson?s invaluable book) would be possible as a crowd-sourced online space? (Says he who has no idea how that might be realized!) On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 02:34:34 PM PDT, Peter D L Stansky > wrote: Those are quite fine photos of them I?d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won?t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That?s worked for me when I?ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 1:32 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net ; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:?05:?43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!30ZZrsfV9ezNxOhlwHG-U94y9FN0tqUW-CpFooZAVONvuf7SPbt945AWHXm9ddXj-Lbtvk59HBk1Jh4QdXLo8e4QHnuiBiHtyWi2BQ$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!30ZZrsfV9ezNxOhlwHG-U94y9FN0tqUW-CpFooZAVONvuf7SPbt945AWHXm9ddXj-Lbtvk59HBk1Jh4QdXLo8e4QHnuiBiHiGjPvuw$ Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 159 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 158 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPad From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jul 11 04:15:08 2023 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 08:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolfian production sadly not too successful in Avignon, France... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1867611514.143396.1689063308061@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Marie-Claire. Heard about the festival when we were in Avignon recently, and fleetingly felt regret for not being there while it was on. Then remembered that it would be in French with no English sub/surtitles. Brits are rarely fluent in another language, I'm afraid; almost every other country puts us to shame. It might have been fun trying to spot the Woolfianisms though. Le Monde etc. seem to think that there's a character called Jacob in The Waves . . . or has the director substituted him for Percival? Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Monday, 10 July 2023 at 21:22:31 BST, Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf wrote: VW in the Summer Festival news in France.?.?. !! ?? https:?//www.?lemonde.?fr/culture/article/2023/07/10/festival-d-avignon-avec-ecrire-sa-vie-pauline-bayle-echoue-a-incarner-l-univers-de-virginia-woolf_6181304_3246.?html https:?//www.?lesechos.?fr/weekend/spectacles-musique/avignon-2023-fin-de-party-chez-virginia-woolf-1960505https:?//www.?arte.?tv/fr/videos/111759-003-A/une-chambre-a-soi-de-virginia-woolf-arte-book-club/HopeVW in the Summer Festival news in France... !!??? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lemonde.fr/culture/article/2023/07/10/festival-d-avignon-avec-ecrire-sa-vie-pauline-bayle-echoue-a-incarner-l-univers-de-virginia-woolf_6181304_3246.html__;!!KGKeukY!zUYyhpTLJr_gbUbedf1-HY1XGl9LJhWJokVTA5cqW7InGA0rexLBW3qbVqxn8NYtgTU5glQMaJPE5O1X4EHOOMt4$ https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lesechos.fr/weekend/spectacles-musique/avignon-2023-fin-de-party-chez-virginia-woolf-1960505__;!!KGKeukY!zUYyhpTLJr_gbUbedf1-HY1XGl9LJhWJokVTA5cqW7InGA0rexLBW3qbVqxn8NYtgTU5glQMaJPE5O1X4O6muUde$ | | https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/111759-003-A/une-chambre-a-soi-de-virginia-woolf-arte-book-club/__;!!KGKeukY!zUYyhpTLJr_gbUbedf1-HY1XGl9LJhWJokVTA5cqW7InGA0rexLBW3qbVqxn8NYtgTU5glQMaJPE5O1X4NhsfWUM$ Hope you are all well. With Best Wishes??? Marie-Claire ****** | | | Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie? | | | | | | | | Address??Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France.? | | Phone??+33 (0)5 55 88 29 61? | | Mobile?? +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21? | | Email??MC at Clarior.net? | ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? | | | | | | | | | IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof.? | | | | Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. | | | _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bdr0032 at auburn.edu Sun Jul 9 15:33:09 2023 From: bdr0032 at auburn.edu (Beverley Rilett) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2023 19:33:09 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? In-Reply-To: References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> <21171572.1534688.1688904254552@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Cather Archive (U Nebraska), or George Eliot Archive (formerly U Nebraska, now Auburn U), where researchers from all over the world can find and freely download the author's published and unpublished writings, images?including portraits of the author and illustrations of her scenes and characters, and hundreds of contemporary reviews. Increasingly, these sites are also providing the advanced search options and data visualization tools to help drill down into the thousands of texts collected. Of course, it?s much easier for Victorian and Modern authors who published prior to 1928 (rule-of-thumb in US: copyright on published works lasts 95 years), or who died before 1953 (unpublished works are protected for 70 years after the death of the creator). Those texts and images are now in the public domain and require no permission to republish. You could make a great start with Virginia Woolf because 6 of her 9 published novels are already in the public domain, and if I'm interpreting US copyright law correctly, all the writing she left unpublished at the time of her death (1941), is also available to be published in manuscript images (with transcriptions and editorial apparatus). I bet the knowledgeable people on this list could create a wonderful digital archive of Virginia Woolf materials. (If there?s already one, I?m sorry not to know of its existence.) You probably have already collected hundreds of manuscript photos, images, and pdf documents to share. One of you could start by opening a shared Box or Dropbox folder for everyone to contribute your digital materials. I learned by working with the creators of the Cather and Whitman sites and then with students to build the George Eliot Archive and I'd be happy to offer advice and answer questions if you'd like to create a simple website, something like the George Eliot Archive. Take a look (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://GeorgeEliotArchive.org__;!!KGKeukY!1x9tHFQ1ez8SOu_wXOJZv43jG2SLVV4MFmVJuCEJg5jLfuWuamwe-pHuYKYqalmIZ_0u4Tw-B9sOGb5zv_oT1okmc5FJEYLhCng$ ) and see what you think. As one of my colleagues often says, "It doesn't start itself." Also, the old joke about how to eat an elephant may be apt. Enthusiastically, Bev Beverley Park Rilett, Ph.D. Associate Research Professor Special Collections and Archives Department Auburn University Libraries 231 Mell Street, Auburn University, AL 36849 Bdr0032 at auburn.edu? Director, George Eliot Archive Director, George Eliot Scholars Director, George Eliot Review Online Vice President, George Eliot Fellowship ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:04:14 AM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net ; Neverow, Vara S. ; Peter D L Stansky Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional picture researcher, for example, whole archives have been bought by wealthy people needing somewhere to park their money, and these typically are impervious to any negotiation. Then again, Peter?s advice is something I?ve followed many times and often successfully when dealing with a human who understands the situation. Maybe a kind of index to Bloomsbury-related images (an update of Elizabeth Richardson?s invaluable book) would be possible as a crowd-sourced online space? (Says he who has no idea how that might be realized!) On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 02:34:34 PM PDT, Peter D L Stansky wrote: Those are quite fine photos of them I?d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won?t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That?s worked for me when I?ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 1:32 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu; danelljones at bresnan.net; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:?05:?43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net ; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!1x9tHFQ1ez8SOu_wXOJZv43jG2SLVV4MFmVJuCEJg5jLfuWuamwe-pHuYKYqalmIZ_0u4Tw-B9sOGb5zv_oT1okmc5FJewCOZcA$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AJFM8rwCoy-nXXUrX3UkcBBEUysl19FuXiqFcXbYFBMiRbjJncx1YuOlTplOjv2hRATu4KDuwCYwBw__;!!KGKeukY!1x9tHFQ1ez8SOu_wXOJZv43jG2SLVV4MFmVJuCEJg5jLfuWuamwe-pHuYKYqalmIZ_0u4Tw-B9sOGb5zv_oT1okmc5FJxRDlJLQ$ ] Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. ; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!1x9tHFQ1ez8SOu_wXOJZv43jG2SLVV4MFmVJuCEJg5jLfuWuamwe-pHuYKYqalmIZ_0u4Tw-B9sOGb5zv_oT1okmc5FJNYlqUkA$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AA1T9HKwJTtk7YwNTEgMiBvVx-iu-Y9KlGCWZeE--s_kHb9HUomDVppLl6YX44w7zyHGOnEmy_6Rv5I__;!!KGKeukY!1x9tHFQ1ez8SOu_wXOJZv43jG2SLVV4MFmVJuCEJg5jLfuWuamwe-pHuYKYqalmIZ_0u4Tw-B9sOGb5zv_oT1okmc5FJktH39js$ ] Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the [Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish ? Google Arts & Culture] Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Couldn't resist Mark Scott Common Reader -----Original Message----- From: Kllevenback via Vwoolf Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 5:41 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] NYTimes: When Truth No Longer Counts, How Does a Memoirist Tell Her Story? Woolf citing?. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/11/books/review/to-name-the-bigger-lie-sarah-viren.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare__;!!KGKeukY!1nN-cC_iQdkWhJrYC3ZyJlYmTJz3EVlO_wtUq8znYdF6imDVfPKIGkVJrmgO9QrK1vjMHckjx8SL_99PgmOp6hI$ When Truth No Longer Counts, How Does a Memoirist Tell Her Story? Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf From mhussey at verizon.net Tue Jul 11 12:41:52 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 12:41:52 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? In-Reply-To: References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> <21171572.1534688.1688904254552@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004601d9b416$99137650$cb3a62f0$@verizon.net> Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, Tate?) would be if people starting uploading images of things they own! But thanks very much for this suggestion about how to get a ball rolling! All the best, Mark From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Beverley Rilett via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 3:33 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Cather Archive (U Nebraska), or George Eliot Archive (formerly U Nebraska, now Auburn U), where researchers from all over the world can find and freely download the author's published and unpublished writings, images?including portraits of the author and illustrations of her scenes and characters, and hundreds of contemporary reviews. Increasingly, these sites are also providing the advanced search options and data visualization tools to help drill down into the thousands of texts collected. Of course, it?s much easier for Victorian and Modern authors who published prior to 1928 (rule-of-thumb in US: copyright on published works lasts 95 years), or who died before 1953 (unpublished works are protected for 70 years after the death of the creator). Those texts and images are now in the public domain and require no permission to republish. You could make a great start with Virginia Woolf because 6 of her 9 published novels are already in the public domain, and if I'm interpreting US copyright law correctly, all the writing she left unpublished at the time of her death (1941), is also available to be published in manuscript images (with transcriptions and editorial apparatus). I bet the knowledgeable people on this list could create a wonderful digital archive of Virginia Woolf materials. (If there?s already one, I?m sorry not to know of its existence.) You probably have already collected hundreds of manuscript photos, images, and pdf documents to share. One of you could start by opening a shared Box or Dropbox folder for everyone to contribute your digital materials. I learned by working with the creators of the Cather and Whitman sites and then with students to build the George Eliot Archive and I'd be happy to offer advice and answer questions if you'd like to create a simple website, something like the George Eliot Archive. Take a look (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://GeorgeEliotArchive.org__;!!KGKeukY!2kk-KySzCXSY0hbNMiSWP7K4GqWaVUvuLgev8XJhuj8BQPVksPB60ik_3tL_4EpZTlk_a5NW-TxfjAbXALix300dIlfm3YqJkw$ ) and see what you think. As one of my colleagues often says, "It doesn't start itself." Also, the old joke about how to eat an elephant may be apt. Enthusiastically, Bev Beverley Park Rilett, Ph.D. Associate Research Professor Special Collections and Archives Department Auburn University Libraries 231 Mell Street, Auburn University, AL 36849 Bdr0032 at auburn.edu ? Director, George Eliot Archive Director, George Eliot Scholars Director, George Eliot Review Online Vice President, George Eliot Fellowship _____ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:04:14 AM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. >; Peter D L Stansky > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional picture researcher, for example, whole archives have been bought by wealthy people needing somewhere to park their money, and these typically are impervious to any negotiation. Then again, Peter?s advice is something I?ve followed many times and often successfully when dealing with a human who understands the situation. Maybe a kind of index to Bloomsbury-related images (an update of Elizabeth Richardson?s invaluable book) would be possible as a crowd-sourced online space? (Says he who has no idea how that might be realized!) On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 02:34:34 PM PDT, Peter D L Stansky > wrote: Those are quite fine photos of them I?d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won?t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That?s worked for me when I?ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 1:32 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net ; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:?05:?43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!2kk-KySzCXSY0hbNMiSWP7K4GqWaVUvuLgev8XJhuj8BQPVksPB60ik_3tL_4EpZTlk_a5NW-TxfjAbXALix300dIldZvS46IQ$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!2kk-KySzCXSY0hbNMiSWP7K4GqWaVUvuLgev8XJhuj8BQPVksPB60ik_3tL_4EpZTlk_a5NW-TxfjAbXALix300dIlfnZaK-eg$ Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 159 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 158 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 99221 bytes Desc: not available URL: From boxcar at sonic.net Tue Jul 11 14:48:02 2023 From: boxcar at sonic.net (JJ) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 11:48:02 -0700 Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives In-Reply-To: <004601d9b416$99137650$cb3a62f0$@verizon.net> References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> <21171572.1534688.1688904254552@mail.yahoo.com> <004601d9b416$99137650$cb3a62f0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <08900062-CCFA-49FA-91AC-4AE522AD0677@sonic.net> > On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: > > Dear Beverley, > This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, Tate?) would be if people starting uploading images of things they own! But thanks very much for this suggestion about how to get a ball rolling! > > All the best, > Mark > > From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Beverley Rilett via Vwoolf > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 3:33 PM > To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? > > Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa > Dear Virginia Woolf group, > > Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Cather Archive (U Nebraska), or George Eliot Archive (formerly U Nebraska, now Auburn U), where researchers from all over the world can find and freely download the author's published and unpublished writings, images?including portraits of the author and illustrations of her scenes and characters, and hundreds of contemporary reviews. Increasingly, these sites are also providing the advanced search options and data visualization tools to help drill down into the thousands of texts collected. > > Of course, it?s much easier for Victorian and Modern authors who published prior to 1928 (rule-of-thumb in US: copyright on published works lasts 95 years), or who died before 1953 (unpublished works are protected for 70 years after the death of the creator). Those texts and images are now in the public domain and require no permission to republish. > > You could make a great start with Virginia Woolf because 6 of her 9 published novels are already in the public domain, and if I'm interpreting US copyright law correctly, all the writing she left unpublished at the time of her death (1941), is also available to be published in manuscript images (with transcriptions and editorial apparatus). > > I bet the knowledgeable people on this list could create a wonderful digital archive of Virginia Woolf materials. (If there?s already one, I?m sorry not to know of its existence.) You probably have already collected hundreds of manuscript photos, images, and pdf documents to share. One of you could start by opening a shared Box or Dropbox folder for everyone to contribute your digital materials. I learned by working with the creators of the Cather and Whitman sites and then with students to build the George Eliot Archive and I'd be happy to offer advice and answer questions if you'd like to create a simple website, something like the George Eliot Archive. Take a look (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://GeorgeEliotArchive.org__;!!KGKeukY!x3DqOMJmGDtzKcPDx6HPIUtK9LpZC9yLoyjQ6ruJ8NaNWqqvNhsuuX4AkBBIqawT3ItRCG-ncUM0YFmrCFoJTeP4vORfog$ ) and see what you think. > > As one of my colleagues often says, "It doesn't start itself." Also, the old joke about how to eat an elephant may be apt. > > Enthusiastically, > Bev > > Beverley Park Rilett, Ph.D. > Associate Research Professor > Special Collections and Archives Department > Auburn University Libraries > 231 Mell Street, Auburn University, AL 36849 > Bdr0032 at auburn.edu ? > Director, George Eliot Archive > Director, George Eliot Scholars > Director, George Eliot Review Online > Vice President, George Eliot Fellowship > > From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:04:14 AM > To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. >; Peter D L Stansky > > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? > > It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional > It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional picture researcher, for example, whole archives have been bought by wealthy people needing somewhere to park their money, and these typically are impervious to any negotiation. Then again, Peter?s advice is something I?ve followed many times and often successfully when dealing with a human who understands the situation. > Maybe a kind of index to Bloomsbury-related images (an update of Elizabeth Richardson?s invaluable book) would be possible as a crowd-sourced online space? (Says he who has no idea how that might be realized!) > > On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 02:34:34 PM PDT, Peter D L Stansky > wrote: > > > Those are quite fine photos of them I?d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won?t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That?s worked for me when I?ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > > > From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 1:32 PM > To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net ; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? > > > > Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:?05:?43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut > > Yes! > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: > > > > > > You mean "trespass at once"? > > > > Vara Neverow > > (she/her/hers) > Professor, English Department > > Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany > Southern Connecticut State University > New Haven, CT 06515 > 203-392-6717 > neverowv1 at southernct.edu > > > I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. > > Recent Publications: > Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) > > > > > From: Mark Hussey > > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM > To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? > > > > Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. > > Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Mark, > > > > Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!x3DqOMJmGDtzKcPDx6HPIUtK9LpZC9yLoyjQ6ruJ8NaNWqqvNhsuuX4AkBBIqawT3ItRCG-ncUM0YFmrCFoJTeOJsqoebg$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... > > > Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture > Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish > > artsandculture.google.com > Vara > > > > Vara Neverow > > (she/her/hers) > Professor, English Department > > Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany > Southern Connecticut State University > New Haven, CT 06515 > 203-392-6717 > neverowv1 at southernct.edu > > > I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. > > Recent Publications: > Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) > > > > > From: Mark Hussey > > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM > To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? > > > > But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: > >> Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 >> >> Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish >> Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT >> Publisher: TimeLife >> Usage: For personal non-commercial use only >> Provider: LIFE >> Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 >> Credits: Mansell >> Copyright: ? Time Inc. >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!x3DqOMJmGDtzKcPDx6HPIUtK9LpZC9yLoyjQ6ruJ8NaNWqqvNhsuuX4AkBBIqawT3ItRCG-ncUM0YFmrCFoJTeM_50HBMQ$ >> >> Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture >> Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... >> >> artsandculture.google.com >> I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. >> >> >> >> Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. >> >> >> >> Vara >> >> >> >> Vara Neverow >> >> (she/her/hers) >> Professor, English Department >> >> Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany >> Southern Connecticut State University >> New Haven, CT 06515 >> 203-392-6717 >> neverowv1 at southernct.edu >> >> >> I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. >> >> Recent Publications: >> Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) >> >> >> >> >> From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > >> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM >> To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > >> Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? >> >> >> >> Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. >> >> >> >> Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Danell >> >> >> >> P.S. 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(mhussey at verizon.net ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 22:16:59 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" > To: "Kllevenback" >, > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] NYTimes: When Truth No Longer Counts, How Does a Memoirist Tell Her Story? Woolf citing?. Message-ID: <40644C646B784A6F9D9C042617C5D134 at MarksPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original "Old paint on canvass as it ages sometimes becomes transparent..." Sorry. Couldn't resist Mark Scott Common Reader -----Original Message----- From: Kllevenback via Vwoolf Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 5:41 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] NYTimes: When Truth No Longer Counts, How Does a Memoirist Tell Her Story? Woolf citing?. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/11/books/review/to-name-the-bigger-lie-sarah-viren.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare__;!!KGKeukY!1nN-cC_iQdkWhJrYC3ZyJlYmTJz3EVlO_wtUq8znYdF6imDVfPKIGkVJrmgO9QrK1vjMHckjx8SL_99PgmOp6hI$ When Truth No Longer Counts, How Does a Memoirist Tell Her Story? Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 12:41:52 -0400 From: > To: "'Beverley Rilett'" >, > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: <004601d9b416$99137650$cb3a62f0$@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, Tate?) would be if people starting uploading images of things they own! But thanks very much for this suggestion about how to get a ball rolling! All the best, Mark From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Beverley Rilett via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 3:33 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Cather Archive (U Nebraska), or George Eliot Archive (formerly U Nebraska, now Auburn U), where researchers from all over the world can find and freely download the author's published and unpublished writings, images?including portraits of the author and illustrations of her scenes and characters, and hundreds of contemporary reviews. Increasingly, these sites are also providing the advanced search options and data visualization tools to help drill down into the thousands of texts collected. Of course, it?s much easier for Victorian and Modern authors who published prior to 1928 (rule-of-thumb in US: copyright on published works lasts 95 years), or who died before 1953 (unpublished works are protected for 70 years after the death of the creator). Those texts and images are now in the public domain and require no permission to republish. You could make a great start with Virginia Woolf because 6 of her 9 published novels are already in the public domain, and if I'm interpreting US copyright law correctly, all the writing she left unpublished at the time of her death (1941), is also available to be published in manuscript images (with transcriptions and editorial apparatus). I bet the knowledgeable people on this list could create a wonderful digital archive of Virginia Woolf materials. (If there?s already one, I?m sorry not to know of its existence.) You probably have already collected hundreds of manuscript photos, images, and pdf documents to share. One of you could start by opening a shared Box or Dropbox folder for everyone to contribute your digital materials. I learned by working with the creators of the Cather and Whitman sites and then with students to build the George Eliot Archive and I'd be happy to offer advice and answer questions if you'd like to create a simple website, something like the George Eliot Archive. Take a look (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://GeorgeEliotArchive.org__;!!KGKeukY!2kk-KySzCXSY0hbNMiSWP7K4GqWaVUvuLgev8XJhuj8BQPVksPB60ik_3tL_4EpZTlk_a5NW-TxfjAbXALix300dIlfm3YqJkw$ w-B9sOGb5zv_oT1okmc5FJEYLhCng$> ) and see what you think. As one of my colleagues often says, "It doesn't start itself." Also, the old joke about how to eat an elephant may be apt. Enthusiastically, Bev Beverley Park Rilett, Ph.D. Associate Research Professor Special Collections and Archives Department Auburn University Libraries 231 Mell Street, Auburn University, AL 36849 Bdr0032 at auburn.edu > ? Director, > George Eliot Archive Director, > George Eliot Scholars Director, > George Eliot Review Online Vice President, > George Eliot Fellowship _____ From: Vwoolf > > on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:04:14 AM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > > >; danelljones at bresnan.net > > >; Neverow, Vara S. > >; Peter D L Stansky > > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional picture researcher, for example, whole archives have been bought by wealthy people needing somewhere to park their money, and these typically are impervious to any negotiation. Then again, Peter?s advice is something I?ve followed many times and often successfully when dealing with a human who understands the situation. Maybe a kind of index to Bloomsbury-related images (an update of Elizabeth Richardson?s invaluable book) would be possible as a crowd-sourced online space? (Says he who has no idea how that might be realized!) On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 02:34:34 PM PDT, Peter D L Stansky > > wrote: Those are quite fine photos of them I?d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won?t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That?s worked for me when I?ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter Sent from Mail > for Windows From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 1:32 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > ; danelljones at bresnan.net > ; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:?05:?43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu > I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > > >; danelljones at bresnan.net > > >; Neverow, Vara S. > > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!2kk-KySzCXSY0hbNMiSWP7K4GqWaVUvuLgev8XJhuj8BQPVksPB60ik_3tL_4EpZTlk_a5NW-TxfjAbXALix300dIldZvS46IQ$ > ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... > Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts > & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu > I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. > >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > > >; danelljones at bresnan.net > > > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!2kk-KySzCXSY0hbNMiSWP7K4GqWaVUvuLgev8XJhuj8BQPVksPB60ik_3tL_4EpZTlk_a5NW-TxfjAbXALix300dIlfnZaK-eg$ > > Virginia Woolf - Google Arts > & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu > I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > > > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 159 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 158 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 99221 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf ------------------------------ End of Vwoolf Digest, Vol 134, Issue 33 *************************************** From joshua.phillips at ell.ox.ac.uk Tue Jul 11 16:11:59 2023 From: joshua.phillips at ell.ox.ac.uk (Joshua Phillips) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 20:11:59 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives In-Reply-To: <08900062-CCFA-49FA-91AC-4AE522AD0677@sonic.net> References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> <21171572.1534688.1688904254552@mail.yahoo.com> <004601d9b416$99137650$cb3a62f0$@verizon.net> <08900062-CCFA-49FA-91AC-4AE522AD0677@sonic.net> Message-ID: So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what?s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines of the Beckett Digital Archive, with the Estate and the archives? involvement? The Estate and the Berg have been nothing but amenable to my own smaller digital edition. There?s certainly an intellectual case to be made for a large-scale project like that ? not that I?d have a clue how to get it off the ground. All my best, Josh From: Vwoolf on behalf of JJ via Vwoolf Date: Tuesday, 11 July 2023 at 19:48 To: mhussey at verizon.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu , Beverley Rilett Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:?41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, Tate?) would be if people starting uploading images of things they own! But thanks very much for this suggestion about how to get a ball rolling! All the best, Mark From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Beverley Rilett via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 3:33 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Cather Archive (U Nebraska), or George Eliot Archive (formerly U Nebraska, now Auburn U), where researchers from all over the world can find and freely download the author's published and unpublished writings, images?including portraits of the author and illustrations of her scenes and characters, and hundreds of contemporary reviews. Increasingly, these sites are also providing the advanced search options and data visualization tools to help drill down into the thousands of texts collected. Of course, it?s much easier for Victorian and Modern authors who published prior to 1928 (rule-of-thumb in US: copyright on published works lasts 95 years), or who died before 1953 (unpublished works are protected for 70 years after the death of the creator). Those texts and images are now in the public domain and require no permission to republish. You could make a great start with Virginia Woolf because 6 of her 9 published novels are already in the public domain, and if I'm interpreting US copyright law correctly, all the writing she left unpublished at the time of her death (1941), is also available to be published in manuscript images (with transcriptions and editorial apparatus). I bet the knowledgeable people on this list could create a wonderful digital archive of Virginia Woolf materials. (If there?s already one, I?m sorry not to know of its existence.) You probably have already collected hundreds of manuscript photos, images, and pdf documents to share. One of you could start by opening a shared Box or Dropbox folder for everyone to contribute your digital materials. I learned by working with the creators of the Cather and Whitman sites and then with students to build the George Eliot Archive and I'd be happy to offer advice and answer questions if you'd like to create a simple website, something like the George Eliot Archive. Take a look (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://GeorgeEliotArchive.org__;!!KGKeukY!wps8PftkkFA_eAhZ9sgB48wNrD-rcj8t1O5bxAcUsAwspvplsNmOmmu5HeMKYMj0KeTJKPNgE3fOg934E3snnKsaW8oKHn_HDLE$ ) and see what you think. As one of my colleagues often says, "It doesn't start itself." Also, the old joke about how to eat an elephant may be apt. Enthusiastically, Bev Beverley Park Rilett, Ph.D. Associate Research Professor Special Collections and Archives Department Auburn University Libraries 231 Mell Street, Auburn University, AL 36849 Bdr0032 at auburn.edu? Director, George Eliot Archive Director, George Eliot Scholars Director, George Eliot Review Online Vice President, George Eliot Fellowship ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:04:14 AM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. >; Peter D L Stansky > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional picture researcher, for example, whole archives have been bought by wealthy people needing somewhere to park their money, and these typically are impervious to any negotiation. Then again, Peter?s advice is something I?ve followed many times and often successfully when dealing with a human who understands the situation. Maybe a kind of index to Bloomsbury-related images (an update of Elizabeth Richardson?s invaluable book) would be possible as a crowd-sourced online space? (Says he who has no idea how that might be realized!) On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 02:34:34 PM PDT, Peter D L Stansky > wrote: Those are quite fine photos of them I?d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won?t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That?s worked for me when I?ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 1:32 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu; danelljones at bresnan.net; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:?05:?43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net>; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!wps8PftkkFA_eAhZ9sgB48wNrD-rcj8t1O5bxAcUsAwspvplsNmOmmu5HeMKYMj0KeTJKPNgE3fOg934E3snnKsaW8oKbDBzrG4$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AJFM8rwCoy-nXXUrX3UkcBBEUysl19FuXiqFcXbYFBMiRbjJncx1YuOlTplOjv2hRATu4KDuwCYwBw__;!!KGKeukY!wps8PftkkFA_eAhZ9sgB48wNrD-rcj8t1O5bxAcUsAwspvplsNmOmmu5HeMKYMj0KeTJKPNgE3fOg934E3snnKsaW8oKIH_QEGo$ ] Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!wps8PftkkFA_eAhZ9sgB48wNrD-rcj8t1O5bxAcUsAwspvplsNmOmmu5HeMKYMj0KeTJKPNgE3fOg934E3snnKsaW8oKoW76BzM$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AA1T9HKwJTtk7YwNTEgMiBvVx-iu-Y9KlGCWZeE--s_kHb9HUomDVppLl6YX44w7zyHGOnEmy_6Rv5I__;!!KGKeukY!wps8PftkkFA_eAhZ9sgB48wNrD-rcj8t1O5bxAcUsAwspvplsNmOmmu5HeMKYMj0KeTJKPNgE3fOg934E3snnKsaW8oK4oxjxlQ$ ] Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Drew.Shannon at msj.edu Tue Jul 11 19:33:46 2023 From: Drew.Shannon at msj.edu (Shannon, Drew [School of Arts & Humanities]) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 23:33:46 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives In-Reply-To: References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> <21171572.1534688.1688904254552@mail.yahoo.com> <004601d9b416$99137650$cb3a62f0$@verizon.net> <08900062-CCFA-49FA-91AC-4AE522AD0677@sonic.net>, Message-ID: <1689118429783.14917@msj.edu> ?Having just returned from a research trip to the Berg a few weeks ago, I thought I'd chime in. I was able to take hundreds of scans of microfilm pages of Woolf's diaries, with the understanding that they would be for my own use in my book project, and that under no circumstances would I upload them or share them on any kind of public platform. Those are the Berg's rules, at least for the diaries. Can't vouch for the manuscripts of other works that are in the public domain. Cheers, Drew Drew Shannon, Ph.D. Associate Professor of English Coordinator of English Mount St. Joseph University 5701 Delhi Road Cincinnati, OH 45233 USA (513) 244-4541 Drew.Shannon at msj.edu Historian/Bibliographer of the International Virginia Woolf Society "I meant to write about death, only life came breaking in as usual." -- Virginia Woolf, Diary, 17 February 1922 ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Joshua Phillips via Vwoolf Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 4:11 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what?s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what?s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines of the Beckett Digital Archive, with the Estate and the archives? involvement? The Estate and the Berg have been nothing but amenable to my own smaller digital edition. There?s certainly an intellectual case to be made for a large-scale project like that ? not that I?d have a clue how to get it off the ground. All my best, Josh From: Vwoolf on behalf of JJ via Vwoolf Date: Tuesday, 11 July 2023 at 19:48 To: mhussey at verizon.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu , Beverley Rilett Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:?41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, Tate?) would be if people starting uploading images of things they own! But thanks very much for this suggestion about how to get a ball rolling! All the best, Mark From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Beverley Rilett via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 3:33 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Cather Archive (U Nebraska), or George Eliot Archive (formerly U Nebraska, now Auburn U), where researchers from all over the world can find and freely download the author's published and unpublished writings, images?including portraits of the author and illustrations of her scenes and characters, and hundreds of contemporary reviews. Increasingly, these sites are also providing the advanced search options and data visualization tools to help drill down into the thousands of texts collected. Of course, it?s much easier for Victorian and Modern authors who published prior to 1928 (rule-of-thumb in US: copyright on published works lasts 95 years), or who died before 1953 (unpublished works are protected for 70 years after the death of the creator). Those texts and images are now in the public domain and require no permission to republish. You could make a great start with Virginia Woolf because 6 of her 9 published novels are already in the public domain, and if I'm interpreting US copyright law correctly, all the writing she left unpublished at the time of her death (1941), is also available to be published in manuscript images (with transcriptions and editorial apparatus). I bet the knowledgeable people on this list could create a wonderful digital archive of Virginia Woolf materials. (If there?s already one, I?m sorry not to know of its existence.) You probably have already collected hundreds of manuscript photos, images, and pdf documents to share. One of you could start by opening a shared Box or Dropbox folder for everyone to contribute your digital materials. I learned by working with the creators of the Cather and Whitman sites and then with students to build the George Eliot Archive and I'd be happy to offer advice and answer questions if you'd like to create a simple website, something like the George Eliot Archive. Take a look (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://GeorgeEliotArchive.org__;!!KGKeukY!wYGMvbJo6wyYTmJVMtpnnsWZFiPTiwOJByClTBCCJXIBooLgAR70I7Y6gltOwTYFEadp40wDGLyPClbgLp8fJpIQe-c$ ) and see what you think. As one of my colleagues often says, "It doesn't start itself." Also, the old joke about how to eat an elephant may be apt. Enthusiastically, Bev Beverley Park Rilett, Ph.D. Associate Research Professor Special Collections and Archives Department Auburn University Libraries 231 Mell Street, Auburn University, AL 36849 Bdr0032 at auburn.edu? Director, George Eliot Archive Director, George Eliot Scholars Director, George Eliot Review Online Vice President, George Eliot Fellowship ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:04:14 AM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. >; Peter D L Stansky > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional picture researcher, for example, whole archives have been bought by wealthy people needing somewhere to park their money, and these typically are impervious to any negotiation. Then again, Peter?s advice is something I?ve followed many times and often successfully when dealing with a human who understands the situation. Maybe a kind of index to Bloomsbury-related images (an update of Elizabeth Richardson?s invaluable book) would be possible as a crowd-sourced online space? (Says he who has no idea how that might be realized!) On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 02:34:34 PM PDT, Peter D L Stansky > wrote: Those are quite fine photos of them I?d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won?t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That?s worked for me when I?ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 1:32 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu; danelljones at bresnan.net; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:?05:?43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net>; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!wYGMvbJo6wyYTmJVMtpnnsWZFiPTiwOJByClTBCCJXIBooLgAR70I7Y6gltOwTYFEadp40wDGLyPClbgLp8fEVh0rOw$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AJFM8rwCoy-nXXUrX3UkcBBEUysl19FuXiqFcXbYFBMiRbjJncx1YuOlTplOjv2hRATu4KDuwCYwBw__;!!KGKeukY!wYGMvbJo6wyYTmJVMtpnnsWZFiPTiwOJByClTBCCJXIBooLgAR70I7Y6gltOwTYFEadp40wDGLyPClbgLp8fsM9Kj14$ ] Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!wYGMvbJo6wyYTmJVMtpnnsWZFiPTiwOJByClTBCCJXIBooLgAR70I7Y6gltOwTYFEadp40wDGLyPClbgLp8fmFj5dOQ$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AA1T9HKwJTtk7YwNTEgMiBvVx-iu-Y9KlGCWZeE--s_kHb9HUomDVppLl6YX44w7zyHGOnEmy_6Rv5I__;!!KGKeukY!wYGMvbJo6wyYTmJVMtpnnsWZFiPTiwOJByClTBCCJXIBooLgAR70I7Y6gltOwTYFEadp40wDGLyPClbgLp8feNtf87Y$ ] Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Wed Jul 12 00:37:13 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 04:37:13 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives In-Reply-To: <1689118429783.14917@msj.edu> References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> <21171572.1534688.1688904254552@mail.yahoo.com> <004601d9b416$99137650$cb3a62f0$@verizon.net> <08900062-CCFA-49FA-91AC-4AE522AD0677@sonic.net>, <1689118429783.14917@msj.edu> Message-ID: Hi everyone, Copyright is very complicated. Some key terms (from the USian copyright laws at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq-definitions.html__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZDRo0vge$ ): What is copyright infringement? As a general matter, copyright infringement occurs when a copyrighted work is reproduced, distributed, performed, publicly displayed, or made into a derivative work without the permission of the copyright owner. Where is the public domain? The public domain is not a place. A work of authorship is in the ?public domain? if it is no longer under copyright protection or if it failed to meet the requirements for copyright protection. Works in the public domain may be used freely without the permission of the former copyright owner. We are very, very fortunate that Leonard Woolf and Quentin Bell each endeavored to share such an amazing range of Virginia Woolf's private writings, beginning with A Writer's Diary and bringing those materials out of the archives and into the light. Below is the citation and the link to a useful article (published in 1985) that can help clarify some of the issues surrounding copyright in the US (even though some changes have been made in the interval). "COPYRIGHT FOR SCHOLARS" Author(s): PEGGY L. FOX Source: Paideuma: Modern and Contemporary Poetry and Poetics, Vol. 14, No. 1 (Spring 1985), pp. 129-134 Published by: National Poetry Foundation Stable URL: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jstor.org/stable/24723185__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZE5cZFba$ Two key quotations from the author, Peggy L. Fox: "Upon occasion I have found it necessary to protest to a scholarly journal or scholarly author that material has been quoted without proper credit and copyright lines being given (let alone a fee being paid) and have met with resistance on the grounds of 'intellectual freedom"?i.e. the concept that since scholars are engaged in spreading knowledge, they should be allowed to quote whomever they wish at whatever length without acknowledgement or payment to anyone" (129). and "...any work published posthumously can secure copyright for 75 years from the date of publication, even if the author has already been dead for a considerable length of time. Thus the unpublished works (letters, notes, unpublished manuscripts) of deceased authors are not in the public domain" (131). If you cannot access Fox's article through your institution, JSTOR provides the option of free (though limited) access: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jstor.org/register?redirectUri=*2Fstable*2F24723185*3Fread-now*3D1*23page_scan_tab_contents__;JSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZKRSh0-4$ . And...on a related but different thread...having had to intervene and asked contributors to remove quotations of lyrics from essays that were published in the Miscellany, however resonant with Woolf culture the lyrics might be, I should remind everyone that quoting lyrics without permission from the copyright holder is in a totally different domain of restrictions than "fair use" prose and that it is absolutely unacceptable to quote without formal permission (if you happen to read a book that includes lyrics, you should take a look at the front matter--unless the publisher likes to take on high risk adventures in copyright, you will see a reference to each and every quoted lyric). Embarrassingly, an MLA webpage (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://style.mla.org/formatting-song-lyrics/__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZP_I8adx$ ) instructs users how to quote a song lyric and--to illustrate it the quotation--it offers two lines from Bob Dylan's Blowing in the Wind ? (it's cringeworthy that this webpage exists at all). If you happen to want guidance on quoting lyrics, this source--EliteAuthors.com--seems to be accurate and informative: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://eliteauthors.com/blog/how-to-quote-song-lyrics-in-your-story/__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZCDFNeWH$ . I know this ramble is somewhat off topic in spots...apologies for any distractions.... Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Shannon, Drew [School of Arts & Humanities] via Vwoolf Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:33 PM To: Joshua Phillips Cc: vwoolf Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives ?Having just returned from a research trip to the Berg a few weeks ago, I thought I'd chime in. I was able to take hundreds of scans of microfilm pages of Woolf's diaries, with the understanding that they would be for my own use in my book ?Having just returned from a research trip to the Berg a few weeks ago, I thought I'd chime in. I was able to take hundreds of scans of microfilm pages of Woolf's diaries, with the understanding that they would be for my own use in my book project, and that under no circumstances would I upload them or share them on any kind of public platform. Those are the Berg's rules, at least for the diaries. Can't vouch for the manuscripts of other works that are in the public domain. Cheers, Drew Drew Shannon, Ph.D. Associate Professor of English Coordinator of English Mount St. Joseph University 5701 Delhi Road Cincinnati, OH 45233 USA (513) 244-4541 Drew.Shannon at msj.edu Historian/Bibliographer of the International Virginia Woolf Society "I meant to write about death, only life came breaking in as usual." -- Virginia Woolf, Diary, 17 February 1922 ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Joshua Phillips via Vwoolf Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 4:11 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what?s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what?s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines of the Beckett Digital Archive, with the Estate and the archives? involvement? The Estate and the Berg have been nothing but amenable to my own smaller digital edition. There?s certainly an intellectual case to be made for a large-scale project like that ? not that I?d have a clue how to get it off the ground. All my best, Josh From: Vwoolf on behalf of JJ via Vwoolf Date: Tuesday, 11 July 2023 at 19:48 To: mhussey at verizon.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu , Beverley Rilett Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:?41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, Tate?) would be if people starting uploading images of things they own! But thanks very much for this suggestion about how to get a ball rolling! All the best, Mark From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Beverley Rilett via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 3:33 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Cather Archive (U Nebraska), or George Eliot Archive (formerly U Nebraska, now Auburn U), where researchers from all over the world can find and freely download the author's published and unpublished writings, images?including portraits of the author and illustrations of her scenes and characters, and hundreds of contemporary reviews. Increasingly, these sites are also providing the advanced search options and data visualization tools to help drill down into the thousands of texts collected. Of course, it?s much easier for Victorian and Modern authors who published prior to 1928 (rule-of-thumb in US: copyright on published works lasts 95 years), or who died before 1953 (unpublished works are protected for 70 years after the death of the creator). Those texts and images are now in the public domain and require no permission to republish. You could make a great start with Virginia Woolf because 6 of her 9 published novels are already in the public domain, and if I'm interpreting US copyright law correctly, all the writing she left unpublished at the time of her death (1941), is also available to be published in manuscript images (with transcriptions and editorial apparatus). I bet the knowledgeable people on this list could create a wonderful digital archive of Virginia Woolf materials. (If there?s already one, I?m sorry not to know of its existence.) You probably have already collected hundreds of manuscript photos, images, and pdf documents to share. One of you could start by opening a shared Box or Dropbox folder for everyone to contribute your digital materials. I learned by working with the creators of the Cather and Whitman sites and then with students to build the George Eliot Archive and I'd be happy to offer advice and answer questions if you'd like to create a simple website, something like the George Eliot Archive. Take a look (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://GeorgeEliotArchive.org__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZO_yqyBa$ ) and see what you think. As one of my colleagues often says, "It doesn't start itself." Also, the old joke about how to eat an elephant may be apt. Enthusiastically, Bev Beverley Park Rilett, Ph.D. Associate Research Professor Special Collections and Archives Department Auburn University Libraries 231 Mell Street, Auburn University, AL 36849 Bdr0032 at auburn.edu? Director, George Eliot Archive Director, George Eliot Scholars Director, George Eliot Review Online Vice President, George Eliot Fellowship ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:04:14 AM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. >; Peter D L Stansky > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional picture researcher, for example, whole archives have been bought by wealthy people needing somewhere to park their money, and these typically are impervious to any negotiation. Then again, Peter?s advice is something I?ve followed many times and often successfully when dealing with a human who understands the situation. Maybe a kind of index to Bloomsbury-related images (an update of Elizabeth Richardson?s invaluable book) would be possible as a crowd-sourced online space? (Says he who has no idea how that might be realized!) On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 02:34:34 PM PDT, Peter D L Stansky > wrote: Those are quite fine photos of them I?d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won?t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That?s worked for me when I?ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 1:32 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu; danelljones at bresnan.net; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:?05:?43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net>; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZC5Vswdx$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AJFM8rwCoy-nXXUrX3UkcBBEUysl19FuXiqFcXbYFBMiRbjJncx1YuOlTplOjv2hRATu4KDuwCYwBw__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZIJOAefV$ ] Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZK8zXtx_$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AA1T9HKwJTtk7YwNTEgMiBvVx-iu-Y9KlGCWZeE--s_kHb9HUomDVppLl6YX44w7zyHGOnEmy_6Rv5I__;!!KGKeukY!w4GlHkpX0YIFmJQB7GG8_ZsRDLGc35OpV_ZhSzRpXlISAZMNuFn8Hpk_YPA9NXYEvl1rjEyiE2thWUCH99aAZKGIpvLr$ ] Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. 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URL: From n.l.wilson at reading.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 02:43:27 2023 From: n.l.wilson at reading.ac.uk (Nicola Wilson) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 06:43:27 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives In-Reply-To: References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> <21171572.1534688.1688904254552@mail.yahoo.com> <004601d9b416$99137650$cb3a62f0$@verizon.net> <08900062-CCFA-49FA-91AC-4AE522AD0677@sonic.net>, <1689118429783.14917@msj.edu> Message-ID: Dear all, Helen Southworth put together a list of online Virginia Woolf materials during Covid - there will be more available now, but I hope this is helpful to this thread: Virginia Woolf-Related Online Resources | Modernist Archives Publishing Project Please let us know if you have other things we can update this with! At MAPP (the Modernist Archives Publishing Project) we are working with several library partners (Washington State University, HRC, Berg, Sussex, Reading, Pratt, Peel, Smith) to include full-text scans of original Hogarth Press editions as they come out of copyright - Jacob's Room is available here: Jacob's Room | Modernist Archives Publishing Project (click through to 'first edition of') We are also fortunate as a field that we have many great projects doing sterling work on the drafts and notebooks, like the Woolfonline project mojulem - Woolf Online - Home, and Michele Barrett's new notebooks work connected to Kings. WoolfNotes ? Professor Mich?le Barrett (michelebarrett.com) mojulem - Woolf Online - Home Woolf Online is a digital archive of Virginia Woolf's To the Lighthouse (1927) https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.woolfonline.com__;!!KGKeukY!1A8HuYNC6-0cvOpZ_5gdTGyiMhGZX3QqIw00So7eVqCsDvUyAFmUKVEkH2qdgg1npsSGUgCBwwY9PcVVfT1JLGRrGGlL$ Making unpublished archival documents publicly available to research has been a goal at MAPP but yes it's complicated and time-consuming, especially where you don't know the estates involved (thank goodness for the amazing Society of Authors looking after Woolf's estate)! We have run into this a lot with Hogarth Press archival material as you obviously have lots of unknown correspondents in that, and other businesses - we wrote about this archival labour here in a piece that links this work with ideas about data feminism: Digital critical archives, copyright, and feminist praxis | SpringerLink - this is open access if you are interested in reading. [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://media.springernature.com/w200/springer-static/cover/journal/10502.jpg__;!!KGKeukY!1A8HuYNC6-0cvOpZ_5gdTGyiMhGZX3QqIw00So7eVqCsDvUyAFmUKVEkH2qdgg1npsSGUgCBwwY9PcVVfT1JLMYTXQyw$ ] Digital critical archives, copyright, and feminist praxis - Archival Science link.springer.com Ab Nicola Dr Nicola Wilson Associate Professor in Book and Publishing Studies English Literature, School of Literature and Languages, Edith Morley, Whiteknights, PO Box 218, Reading, RG6 6AA Tel: +44 (0)118 378 5272 | Twitter: @Nicola_LWilson Co-director of the Centre for Book Cultures and Publishing Co-director of the Modernist Archives Publishing Project Strand editor, 'Women, Publishing, and Book Culture', CUP Elements series on Publishing and Book Culture My most recent publication is a collaboratively-authored article, available open access: 'Digital Critical Archives, Copyright and Feminist Praxis' ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: 12 July 2023 05:37 To: Joshua Phillips ; Shannon, Drew [School of Arts & Humanities] Cc: vwoolf Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives Hi everyone, Copyright is very complicated. Some key terms (from the USian copyright laws at: https:?//www.?copyright.?gov/help/faq-definitions.?html): What is copyright infringement? As a general matter, copyright infringement occurs when a copyrighted Hi everyone, Copyright is very complicated. Some key terms (from the USian copyright laws at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq-definitions.html__;!!KGKeukY!1A8HuYNC6-0cvOpZ_5gdTGyiMhGZX3QqIw00So7eVqCsDvUyAFmUKVEkH2qdgg1npsSGUgCBwwY9PcVVfT1JLAoMbleW$ ): What is copyright infringement? As a general matter, copyright infringement occurs when a copyrighted work is reproduced, distributed, performed, publicly displayed, or made into a derivative work without the permission of the copyright owner. Where is the public domain? The public domain is not a place. A work of authorship is in the ?public domain? if it is no longer under copyright protection or if it failed to meet the requirements for copyright protection. Works in the public domain may be used freely without the permission of the former copyright owner. We are very, very fortunate that Leonard Woolf and Quentin Bell each endeavored to share such an amazing range of Virginia Woolf's private writings, beginning with A Writer's Diary and bringing those materials out of the archives and into the light. Below is the citation and the link to a useful article (published in 1985) that can help clarify some of the issues surrounding copyright in the US (even though some changes have been made in the interval). "COPYRIGHT FOR SCHOLARS" Author(s): PEGGY L. FOX Source: Paideuma: Modern and Contemporary Poetry and Poetics, Vol. 14, No. 1 (Spring 1985), pp. 129-134 Published by: National Poetry Foundation Stable URL: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jstor.org/stable/24723185__;!!KGKeukY!1A8HuYNC6-0cvOpZ_5gdTGyiMhGZX3QqIw00So7eVqCsDvUyAFmUKVEkH2qdgg1npsSGUgCBwwY9PcVVfT1JLMJBtxEy$ Two key quotations from the author, Peggy L. Fox: "Upon occasion I have found it necessary to protest to a scholarly journal or scholarly author that material has been quoted without proper credit and copyright lines being given (let alone a fee being paid) and have met with resistance on the grounds of 'intellectual freedom"?i.e. the concept that since scholars are engaged in spreading knowledge, they should be allowed to quote whomever they wish at whatever length without acknowledgement or payment to anyone" (129). and "...any work published posthumously can secure copyright for 75 years from the date of publication, even if the author has already been dead for a considerable length of time. Thus the unpublished works (letters, notes, unpublished manuscripts) of deceased authors are not in the public domain" (131). If you cannot access Fox's article through your institution, JSTOR provides the option of free (though limited) access: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jstor.org/register?redirectUri=*2Fstable*2F24723185*3Fread-now*3D1*23page_scan_tab_contents__;JSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!1A8HuYNC6-0cvOpZ_5gdTGyiMhGZX3QqIw00So7eVqCsDvUyAFmUKVEkH2qdgg1npsSGUgCBwwY9PcVVfT1JLMCJ1ZQ_$ . And...on a related but different thread...having had to intervene and asked contributors to remove quotations of lyrics from essays that were published in the Miscellany, however resonant with Woolf culture the lyrics might be, I should remind everyone that quoting lyrics without permission from the copyright holder is in a totally different domain of restrictions than "fair use" prose and that it is absolutely unacceptable to quote without formal permission (if you happen to read a book that includes lyrics, you should take a look at the front matter--unless the publisher likes to take on high risk adventures in copyright, you will see a reference to each and every quoted lyric). Embarrassingly, an MLA webpage (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://style.mla.org/formatting-song-lyrics/__;!!KGKeukY!1A8HuYNC6-0cvOpZ_5gdTGyiMhGZX3QqIw00So7eVqCsDvUyAFmUKVEkH2qdgg1npsSGUgCBwwY9PcVVfT1JLF08Fxa0$ ) instructs users how to quote a song lyric and--to illustrate it the quotation--it offers two lines from Bob Dylan's Blowing in the Wind ? (it's cringeworthy that this webpage exists at all). If you happen to want guidance on quoting lyrics, this source--EliteAuthors.com--seems to be accurate and informative: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://eliteauthors.com/blog/how-to-quote-song-lyrics-in-your-story/__;!!KGKeukY!1A8HuYNC6-0cvOpZ_5gdTGyiMhGZX3QqIw00So7eVqCsDvUyAFmUKVEkH2qdgg1npsSGUgCBwwY9PcVVfT1JLETjJY6-$ . I know this ramble is somewhat off topic in spots...apologies for any distractions.... Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Shannon, Drew [School of Arts & Humanities] via Vwoolf Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:33 PM To: Joshua Phillips Cc: vwoolf Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives ?Having just returned from a research trip to the Berg a few weeks ago, I thought I'd chime in. I was able to take hundreds of scans of microfilm pages of Woolf's diaries, with the understanding that they would be for my own use in my book ?Having just returned from a research trip to the Berg a few weeks ago, I thought I'd chime in. I was able to take hundreds of scans of microfilm pages of Woolf's diaries, with the understanding that they would be for my own use in my book project, and that under no circumstances would I upload them or share them on any kind of public platform. Those are the Berg's rules, at least for the diaries. Can't vouch for the manuscripts of other works that are in the public domain. Cheers, Drew Drew Shannon, Ph.D. Associate Professor of English Coordinator of English Mount St. Joseph University 5701 Delhi Road Cincinnati, OH 45233 USA (513) 244-4541 Drew.Shannon at msj.edu Historian/Bibliographer of the International Virginia Woolf Society "I meant to write about death, only life came breaking in as usual." -- Virginia Woolf, Diary, 17 February 1922 ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Joshua Phillips via Vwoolf Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 4:11 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what?s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what?s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines of the Beckett Digital Archive, with the Estate and the archives? involvement? The Estate and the Berg have been nothing but amenable to my own smaller digital edition. There?s certainly an intellectual case to be made for a large-scale project like that ? not that I?d have a clue how to get it off the ground. All my best, Josh From: Vwoolf on behalf of JJ via Vwoolf Date: Tuesday, 11 July 2023 at 19:48 To: mhussey at verizon.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu , Beverley Rilett Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:?41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, Tate?) would be if people starting uploading images of things they own! But thanks very much for this suggestion about how to get a ball rolling! All the best, Mark From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Beverley Rilett via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 3:33 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Cather Archive (U Nebraska), or George Eliot Archive (formerly U Nebraska, now Auburn U), where researchers from all over the world can find and freely download the author's published and unpublished writings, images?including portraits of the author and illustrations of her scenes and characters, and hundreds of contemporary reviews. Increasingly, these sites are also providing the advanced search options and data visualization tools to help drill down into the thousands of texts collected. Of course, it?s much easier for Victorian and Modern authors who published prior to 1928 (rule-of-thumb in US: copyright on published works lasts 95 years), or who died before 1953 (unpublished works are protected for 70 years after the death of the creator). Those texts and images are now in the public domain and require no permission to republish. You could make a great start with Virginia Woolf because 6 of her 9 published novels are already in the public domain, and if I'm interpreting US copyright law correctly, all the writing she left unpublished at the time of her death (1941), is also available to be published in manuscript images (with transcriptions and editorial apparatus). I bet the knowledgeable people on this list could create a wonderful digital archive of Virginia Woolf materials. (If there?s already one, I?m sorry not to know of its existence.) You probably have already collected hundreds of manuscript photos, images, and pdf documents to share. One of you could start by opening a shared Box or Dropbox folder for everyone to contribute your digital materials. I learned by working with the creators of the Cather and Whitman sites and then with students to build the George Eliot Archive and I'd be happy to offer advice and answer questions if you'd like to create a simple website, something like the George Eliot Archive. Take a look (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://GeorgeEliotArchive.org__;!!KGKeukY!1A8HuYNC6-0cvOpZ_5gdTGyiMhGZX3QqIw00So7eVqCsDvUyAFmUKVEkH2qdgg1npsSGUgCBwwY9PcVVfT1JLBWMcAv6$ ) and see what you think. As one of my colleagues often says, "It doesn't start itself." Also, the old joke about how to eat an elephant may be apt. Enthusiastically, Bev Beverley Park Rilett, Ph.D. Associate Research Professor Special Collections and Archives Department Auburn University Libraries 231 Mell Street, Auburn University, AL 36849 Bdr0032 at auburn.edu? Director, George Eliot Archive Director, George Eliot Scholars Director, George Eliot Review Online Vice President, George Eliot Fellowship ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:04:14 AM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. >; Peter D L Stansky > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional picture researcher, for example, whole archives have been bought by wealthy people needing somewhere to park their money, and these typically are impervious to any negotiation. Then again, Peter?s advice is something I?ve followed many times and often successfully when dealing with a human who understands the situation. Maybe a kind of index to Bloomsbury-related images (an update of Elizabeth Richardson?s invaluable book) would be possible as a crowd-sourced online space? (Says he who has no idea how that might be realized!) On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 02:34:34 PM PDT, Peter D L Stansky > wrote: Those are quite fine photos of them I?d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won?t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That?s worked for me when I?ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 1:32 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu; danelljones at bresnan.net; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:?05:?43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net>; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!1A8HuYNC6-0cvOpZ_5gdTGyiMhGZX3QqIw00So7eVqCsDvUyAFmUKVEkH2qdgg1npsSGUgCBwwY9PcVVfT1JLJZPjiDy$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AJFM8rwCoy-nXXUrX3UkcBBEUysl19FuXiqFcXbYFBMiRbjJncx1YuOlTplOjv2hRATu4KDuwCYwBw__;!!KGKeukY!1A8HuYNC6-0cvOpZ_5gdTGyiMhGZX3QqIw00So7eVqCsDvUyAFmUKVEkH2qdgg1npsSGUgCBwwY9PcVVfT1JLH9titeo$ ] Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!1A8HuYNC6-0cvOpZ_5gdTGyiMhGZX3QqIw00So7eVqCsDvUyAFmUKVEkH2qdgg1npsSGUgCBwwY9PcVVfT1JLDhzJldo$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AA1T9HKwJTtk7YwNTEgMiBvVx-iu-Y9KlGCWZeE--s_kHb9HUomDVppLl6YX44w7zyHGOnEmy_6Rv5I__;!!KGKeukY!1A8HuYNC6-0cvOpZ_5gdTGyiMhGZX3QqIw00So7eVqCsDvUyAFmUKVEkH2qdgg1npsSGUgCBwwY9PcVVfT1JLHvuZEXR$ ] Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. 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URL: From helen at uoregon.edu Wed Jul 12 03:47:56 2023 From: helen at uoregon.edu (Helen Southworth) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 07:47:56 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussey's reservations about the digitalization of archives In-Reply-To: References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> <21171572.1534688.1688904254552@mail.yahoo.com> <004601d9b416$99137650$cb3a62f0$@verizon.net> <08900062-CCFA-49FA-91AC-4AE522AD0677@sonic.net>, <1689118429783.14917@msj.edu> Message-ID: Dear All, I just wanted to add to Nicola's message WATCH (Writers and Artists and Their Copyright Holders) as a great resource when sourcing permissions. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://norman.hrc.utexas.edu/watch/__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EI68GlPnw$ I don't think there is a lack of digital work in Woolf Studies, Julia Briggs' woolfonline project being among the earliest (work taken up by Mark Hussey and Pamela Caughie). The bigger challenge is perhaps coordination and visibility, an issue which sites like ModNets are trying to address https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://modnets.org/__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EI-0CoIZM$ (MAPP should be here soon). At MAPP https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.modernistarchives.com/__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EI3OqPrWd$ we are trying to provide a platform for Vara Neverow's and Merry Pawlowski's Three Guineas notebooks, another amazing early digital project. And I wanted to mention too that French Woolfians Daniel Ferrer, Anne-Laure Rigeade, Monica Lathan, Fr?d?rique Amselle and Catherine Rovera, are also working on the reading notebooks: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.brepols.net/products/IS-9782503597614-1__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EI99ecrzE$ best, Helen ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Nicola Wilson via Vwoolf Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:43 PM To: Joshua Phillips ; Shannon, Drew [School of Arts & Humanities] ; Neverow, Vara S. Cc: vwoolf Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives Dear all, Helen Southworth put together a list of online Virginia Woolf materials during Covid - there will be more available now, but I hope this is helpful to this thread: Virginia Woolf-Related Online Resources | Modernist Archives Publishing Dear all, Helen Southworth put together a list of online Virginia Woolf materials during Covid - there will be more available now, but I hope this is helpful to this thread: Virginia Woolf-Related Online Resources | Modernist Archives Publishing Project Please let us know if you have other things we can update this with! At MAPP (the Modernist Archives Publishing Project) we are working with several library partners (Washington State University, HRC, Berg, Sussex, Reading, Pratt, Peel, Smith) to include full-text scans of original Hogarth Press editions as they come out of copyright - Jacob's Room is available here: Jacob's Room | Modernist Archives Publishing Project (click through to 'first edition of') We are also fortunate as a field that we have many great projects doing sterling work on the drafts and notebooks, like the Woolfonline project mojulem - Woolf Online - Home, and Michele Barrett's new notebooks work connected to Kings. WoolfNotes ? Professor Mich?le Barrett (michelebarrett.com) mojulem - Woolf Online - Home Woolf Online is a digital archive of Virginia Woolf's To the Lighthouse (1927) https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.woolfonline.com__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EI_qzyESF$ Making unpublished archival documents publicly available to research has been a goal at MAPP but yes it's complicated and time-consuming, especially where you don't know the estates involved (thank goodness for the amazing Society of Authors looking after Woolf's estate)! We have run into this a lot with Hogarth Press archival material as you obviously have lots of unknown correspondents in that, and other businesses - we wrote about this archival labour here in a piece that links this work with ideas about data feminism: Digital critical archives, copyright, and feminist praxis | SpringerLink - this is open access if you are interested in reading. [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://media.springernature.com/w200/springer-static/cover/journal/10502.jpg__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EI4tC_SmF$ ] Digital critical archives, copyright, and feminist praxis - Archival Science link.springer.com Ab Nicola Dr Nicola Wilson Associate Professor in Book and Publishing Studies English Literature, School of Literature and Languages, Edith Morley, Whiteknights, PO Box 218, Reading, RG6 6AA Tel: +44 (0)118 378 5272 | Twitter: @Nicola_LWilson Co-director of the Centre for Book Cultures and Publishing Co-director of the Modernist Archives Publishing Project Strand editor, 'Women, Publishing, and Book Culture', CUP Elements series on Publishing and Book Culture My most recent publication is a collaboratively-authored article, available open access: 'Digital Critical Archives, Copyright and Feminist Praxis' ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: 12 July 2023 05:37 To: Joshua Phillips ; Shannon, Drew [School of Arts & Humanities] Cc: vwoolf Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives Hi everyone, Copyright is very complicated. Some key terms (from the USian copyright laws at: https:?//www.?copyright.?gov/help/faq-definitions.?html): What is copyright infringement? As a general matter, copyright infringement occurs when a copyrighted Hi everyone, Copyright is very complicated. Some key terms (from the USian copyright laws at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq-definitions.html__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EI6ua_fkG$ ): What is copyright infringement? As a general matter, copyright infringement occurs when a copyrighted work is reproduced, distributed, performed, publicly displayed, or made into a derivative work without the permission of the copyright owner. Where is the public domain? The public domain is not a place. A work of authorship is in the ?public domain? if it is no longer under copyright protection or if it failed to meet the requirements for copyright protection. Works in the public domain may be used freely without the permission of the former copyright owner. We are very, very fortunate that Leonard Woolf and Quentin Bell each endeavored to share such an amazing range of Virginia Woolf's private writings, beginning with A Writer's Diary and bringing those materials out of the archives and into the light. Below is the citation and the link to a useful article (published in 1985) that can help clarify some of the issues surrounding copyright in the US (even though some changes have been made in the interval). "COPYRIGHT FOR SCHOLARS" Author(s): PEGGY L. FOX Source: Paideuma: Modern and Contemporary Poetry and Poetics, Vol. 14, No. 1 (Spring 1985), pp. 129-134 Published by: National Poetry Foundation Stable URL: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jstor.org/stable/24723185__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EI1umrMBV$ Two key quotations from the author, Peggy L. Fox: "Upon occasion I have found it necessary to protest to a scholarly journal or scholarly author that material has been quoted without proper credit and copyright lines being given (let alone a fee being paid) and have met with resistance on the grounds of 'intellectual freedom"?i.e. the concept that since scholars are engaged in spreading knowledge, they should be allowed to quote whomever they wish at whatever length without acknowledgement or payment to anyone" (129). and "...any work published posthumously can secure copyright for 75 years from the date of publication, even if the author has already been dead for a considerable length of time. Thus the unpublished works (letters, notes, unpublished manuscripts) of deceased authors are not in the public domain" (131). If you cannot access Fox's article through your institution, JSTOR provides the option of free (though limited) access: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jstor.org/register?redirectUri=*2Fstable*2F24723185*3Fread-now*3D1*23page_scan_tab_contents__;JSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EI1PYCKWH$ . And...on a related but different thread...having had to intervene and asked contributors to remove quotations of lyrics from essays that were published in the Miscellany, however resonant with Woolf culture the lyrics might be, I should remind everyone that quoting lyrics without permission from the copyright holder is in a totally different domain of restrictions than "fair use" prose and that it is absolutely unacceptable to quote without formal permission (if you happen to read a book that includes lyrics, you should take a look at the front matter--unless the publisher likes to take on high risk adventures in copyright, you will see a reference to each and every quoted lyric). Embarrassingly, an MLA webpage (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://style.mla.org/formatting-song-lyrics/__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EI_05W24Q$ ) instructs users how to quote a song lyric and--to illustrate it the quotation--it offers two lines from Bob Dylan's Blowing in the Wind ? (it's cringeworthy that this webpage exists at all). If you happen to want guidance on quoting lyrics, this source--EliteAuthors.com--seems to be accurate and informative: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://eliteauthors.com/blog/how-to-quote-song-lyrics-in-your-story/__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EIwSYWZqk$ . I know this ramble is somewhat off topic in spots...apologies for any distractions.... Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Shannon, Drew [School of Arts & Humanities] via Vwoolf Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:33 PM To: Joshua Phillips Cc: vwoolf Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives ?Having just returned from a research trip to the Berg a few weeks ago, I thought I'd chime in. I was able to take hundreds of scans of microfilm pages of Woolf's diaries, with the understanding that they would be for my own use in my book ?Having just returned from a research trip to the Berg a few weeks ago, I thought I'd chime in. I was able to take hundreds of scans of microfilm pages of Woolf's diaries, with the understanding that they would be for my own use in my book project, and that under no circumstances would I upload them or share them on any kind of public platform. Those are the Berg's rules, at least for the diaries. Can't vouch for the manuscripts of other works that are in the public domain. Cheers, Drew Drew Shannon, Ph.D. Associate Professor of English Coordinator of English Mount St. Joseph University 5701 Delhi Road Cincinnati, OH 45233 USA (513) 244-4541 Drew.Shannon at msj.edu Historian/Bibliographer of the International Virginia Woolf Society "I meant to write about death, only life came breaking in as usual." -- Virginia Woolf, Diary, 17 February 1922 ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Joshua Phillips via Vwoolf Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 4:11 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what?s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what?s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines of the Beckett Digital Archive, with the Estate and the archives? involvement? The Estate and the Berg have been nothing but amenable to my own smaller digital edition. There?s certainly an intellectual case to be made for a large-scale project like that ? not that I?d have a clue how to get it off the ground. All my best, Josh From: Vwoolf on behalf of JJ via Vwoolf Date: Tuesday, 11 July 2023 at 19:48 To: mhussey at verizon.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu , Beverley Rilett Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:?41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, Tate?) would be if people starting uploading images of things they own! But thanks very much for this suggestion about how to get a ball rolling! All the best, Mark From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Beverley Rilett via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 3:33 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Cather Archive (U Nebraska), or George Eliot Archive (formerly U Nebraska, now Auburn U), where researchers from all over the world can find and freely download the author's published and unpublished writings, images?including portraits of the author and illustrations of her scenes and characters, and hundreds of contemporary reviews. Increasingly, these sites are also providing the advanced search options and data visualization tools to help drill down into the thousands of texts collected. Of course, it?s much easier for Victorian and Modern authors who published prior to 1928 (rule-of-thumb in US: copyright on published works lasts 95 years), or who died before 1953 (unpublished works are protected for 70 years after the death of the creator). Those texts and images are now in the public domain and require no permission to republish. You could make a great start with Virginia Woolf because 6 of her 9 published novels are already in the public domain, and if I'm interpreting US copyright law correctly, all the writing she left unpublished at the time of her death (1941), is also available to be published in manuscript images (with transcriptions and editorial apparatus). I bet the knowledgeable people on this list could create a wonderful digital archive of Virginia Woolf materials. (If there?s already one, I?m sorry not to know of its existence.) You probably have already collected hundreds of manuscript photos, images, and pdf documents to share. One of you could start by opening a shared Box or Dropbox folder for everyone to contribute your digital materials. I learned by working with the creators of the Cather and Whitman sites and then with students to build the George Eliot Archive and I'd be happy to offer advice and answer questions if you'd like to create a simple website, something like the George Eliot Archive. Take a look (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://GeorgeEliotArchive.org__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EI-aIQ_7d$ ) and see what you think. As one of my colleagues often says, "It doesn't start itself." Also, the old joke about how to eat an elephant may be apt. Enthusiastically, Bev Beverley Park Rilett, Ph.D. Associate Research Professor Special Collections and Archives Department Auburn University Libraries 231 Mell Street, Auburn University, AL 36849 Bdr0032 at auburn.edu? Director, George Eliot Archive Director, George Eliot Scholars Director, George Eliot Review Online Vice President, George Eliot Fellowship ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:04:14 AM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. >; Peter D L Stansky > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional picture researcher, for example, whole archives have been bought by wealthy people needing somewhere to park their money, and these typically are impervious to any negotiation. Then again, Peter?s advice is something I?ve followed many times and often successfully when dealing with a human who understands the situation. Maybe a kind of index to Bloomsbury-related images (an update of Elizabeth Richardson?s invaluable book) would be possible as a crowd-sourced online space? (Says he who has no idea how that might be realized!) On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 02:34:34 PM PDT, Peter D L Stansky > wrote: Those are quite fine photos of them I?d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won?t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That?s worked for me when I?ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 1:32 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu; danelljones at bresnan.net; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:?05:?43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net>; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EI_egHa-S$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AJFM8rwCoy-nXXUrX3UkcBBEUysl19FuXiqFcXbYFBMiRbjJncx1YuOlTplOjv2hRATu4KDuwCYwBw__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EIx9Fv2Ep$ ] Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EI7OB96F2$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci/AA1T9HKwJTtk7YwNTEgMiBvVx-iu-Y9KlGCWZeE--s_kHb9HUomDVppLl6YX44w7zyHGOnEmy_6Rv5I__;!!KGKeukY!xqJ4hYONdDDmlV8YoUxpvQuFHZEBkkmUP3aX2T0qPoHfylznyJAsfaIEXcg2iKbNeI-Fpctqld8EIwNMxOpl$ ] Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Wed Jul 12 10:52:23 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 10:52:23 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives In-Reply-To: <1689118429783.14917@msj.edu> References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> <21171572.1534688.1688904254552@mail.yahoo.com> <004601d9b416$99137650$cb3a62f0$@verizon.net> <08900062-CCFA-49FA-91AC-4AE522AD0677@sonic.net>, <1689118429783.14917@msj.edu> Message-ID: <00df01d9b4d0$785bce20$69136a60$@verizon.net> I would say that is pretty much the standard: whenever I?ve scanned anything at an archive I?ve had to sign an affidavit that it was for my private use for research purposes only and would not be shared (let alone made publicly available!). As far as I know, ?copyright? does not apply in anything like the same way for unpublished materials. From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Shannon, Drew [School of Arts & Humanities] via Vwoolf Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:34 PM To: Joshua Phillips Cc: vwoolf Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives ?Having just returned from a research trip to the Berg a few weeks ago, I thought I'd chime in. I was able to take hundreds of scans of microfilm pages of Woolf's diaries, with the understanding that they would be for my own use in my book ?Having just returned from a research trip to the Berg a few weeks ago, I thought I'd chime in. I was able to take hundreds of scans of microfilm pages of Woolf's diaries, with the understanding that they would be for my own use in my book project, and that under no circumstances would I upload them or share them on any kind of public platform. Those are the Berg's rules, at least for the diaries. Can't vouch for the manuscripts of other works that are in the public domain. Cheers, Drew Drew Shannon, Ph.D. Associate Professor of English Coordinator of English Mount St. Joseph University 5701 Delhi Road Cincinnati, OH 45233 USA (513) 244-4541 Drew.Shannon at msj.edu Historian/Bibliographer of the International Virginia Woolf Society "I meant to write about death, only life came breaking in as usual." -- Virginia Woolf, Diary, 17 February 1922 _____ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Joshua Phillips via Vwoolf > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 4:11 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what?s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what?s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines of the Beckett Digital Archive, with the Estate and the archives? involvement? The Estate and the Berg have been nothing but amenable to my own smaller digital edition. There?s certainly an intellectual case to be made for a large-scale project like that ? not that I?d have a clue how to get it off the ground. All my best, Josh From: Vwoolf > on behalf of JJ via Vwoolf > Date: Tuesday, 11 July 2023 at 19:48 To: mhussey at verizon.net > Cc: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >, Beverley Rilett > Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:?41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, Tate?) would be if people starting uploading images of things they own! But thanks very much for this suggestion about how to get a ball rolling! All the best, Mark From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Beverley Rilett via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 3:33 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Cather Archive (U Nebraska), or George Eliot Archive (formerly U Nebraska, now Auburn U), where researchers from all over the world can find and freely download the author's published and unpublished writings, images?including portraits of the author and illustrations of her scenes and characters, and hundreds of contemporary reviews. Increasingly, these sites are also providing the advanced search options and data visualization tools to help drill down into the thousands of texts collected. Of course, it?s much easier for Victorian and Modern authors who published prior to 1928 (rule-of-thumb in US: copyright on published works lasts 95 years), or who died before 1953 (unpublished works are protected for 70 years after the death of the creator). Those texts and images are now in the public domain and require no permission to republish. You could make a great start with Virginia Woolf because 6 of her 9 published novels are already in the public domain, and if I'm interpreting US copyright law correctly, all the writing she left unpublished at the time of her death (1941), is also available to be published in manuscript images (with transcriptions and editorial apparatus). I bet the knowledgeable people on this list could create a wonderful digital archive of Virginia Woolf materials. (If there?s already one, I?m sorry not to know of its existence.) You probably have already collected hundreds of manuscript photos, images, and pdf documents to share. One of you could start by opening a shared Box or Dropbox folder for everyone to contribute your digital materials. I learned by working with the creators of the Cather and Whitman sites and then with students to build the George Eliot Archive and I'd be happy to offer advice and answer questions if you'd like to create a simple website, something like the George Eliot Archive. Take a look (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://GeorgeEliotArchive.org__;!!KGKeukY!2Fhw6GfGglStazuf8SfdvVy40S4xxitPsBWjXjZ7pb0Z38Olv27clYGasQhevJI1VsE_dIKmGUzYG0sfkSXdRA$ ) and see what you think. As one of my colleagues often says, "It doesn't start itself." Also, the old joke about how to eat an elephant may be apt. Enthusiastically, Bev Beverley Park Rilett, Ph.D. Associate Research Professor Special Collections and Archives Department Auburn University Libraries 231 Mell Street, Auburn University, AL 36849 Bdr0032 at auburn.edu ? Director, George Eliot Archive Director, George Eliot Scholars Director, George Eliot Review Online Vice President, George Eliot Fellowship _____ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:04:14 AM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. >; Peter D L Stansky > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional picture researcher, for example, whole archives have been bought by wealthy people needing somewhere to park their money, and these typically are impervious to any negotiation. Then again, Peter?s advice is something I?ve followed many times and often successfully when dealing with a human who understands the situation. Maybe a kind of index to Bloomsbury-related images (an update of Elizabeth Richardson?s invaluable book) would be possible as a crowd-sourced online space? (Says he who has no idea how that might be realized!) On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 02:34:34 PM PDT, Peter D L Stansky > wrote: Those are quite fine photos of them I?d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won?t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That?s worked for me when I?ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 1:32 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net ; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:?05:?43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!2Fhw6GfGglStazuf8SfdvVy40S4xxitPsBWjXjZ7pb0Z38Olv27clYGasQhevJI1VsE_dIKmGUzYG0vk8xcO5A$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!2Fhw6GfGglStazuf8SfdvVy40S4xxitPsBWjXjZ7pb0Z38Olv27clYGasQhevJI1VsE_dIKmGUzYG0srPJ5ikg$ Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Wed Jul 12 10:58:54 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 10:58:54 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussey's reservations about the digitalization of archives In-Reply-To: References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> <21171572.1534688.1688904254552@mail.yahoo.com> <004601d9b416$99137650$cb3a62f0$@verizon.net> <08900062-CCFA-49FA-91AC-4AE522AD0677@sonic.net>, <1689118429783.14917@msj.edu> Message-ID: <00fa01d9b4d1$61048130$230d8390$@verizon.net> Thanks to all who have been posting these invaluable resources. Getting lost, however, is what I understood to be the initiating issue, i.e. how to deal with obtaining permissions from rights holders who are intransigent or impervious to reasonable arguments about scholarly uses versus commercial ones. But all this is very useful info nonetheless (& thanks, Helen, for alerting people to the French scholars? book on the Reading Notebooks, which is a superb example of how what is on Michele Barrett?s recently-launched site can be used.) From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Helen Southworth via Vwoolf Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 3:48 AM To: Nicola Wilson Cc: vwoolf Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussey's reservations about the digitalization of archives Dear All, I just wanted to add to Nicola's message WATCH (Writers and Artists and Their Copyright Holders) as a great resource when sourcing permissions. https:?//norman.?hrc.?utexas.?edu/watch/ I don't think there is a lack of digital work in Dear All, I just wanted to add to Nicola's message WATCH (Writers and Artists and Their Copyright Holders) as a great resource when sourcing permissions. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://norman.hrc.utexas.edu/watch/__;!!KGKeukY!ya3bDjKAG8IRZbo3o2tTtZpCYV4SB1Z7eN5o7ea9XkqJQlkMHk3VwQqbHlvyv-ZSZ39ib_WTPqbjilox0DKlIA$ I don't think there is a lack of digital work in Woolf Studies, Julia Briggs' woolfonline project being among the earliest (work taken up by Mark Hussey and Pamela Caughie). The bigger challenge is perhaps coordination and visibility, an issue which sites like ModNets are trying to address https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://modnets.org/__;!!KGKeukY!ya3bDjKAG8IRZbo3o2tTtZpCYV4SB1Z7eN5o7ea9XkqJQlkMHk3VwQqbHlvyv-ZSZ39ib_WTPqbjiloQBjgDzA$ (MAPP should be here soon). At MAPP https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.modernistarchives.com/__;!!KGKeukY!ya3bDjKAG8IRZbo3o2tTtZpCYV4SB1Z7eN5o7ea9XkqJQlkMHk3VwQqbHlvyv-ZSZ39ib_WTPqbjilpomCITzA$ we are trying to provide a platform for Vara Neverow's and Merry Pawlowski's Three Guineas notebooks, another amazing early digital project. And I wanted to mention too that French Woolfians Daniel Ferrer, Anne-Laure Rigeade, Monica Lathan, Fr?d?rique Amselle and Catherine Rovera, are also working on the reading notebooks: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.brepols.net/products/IS-9782503597614-1__;!!KGKeukY!ya3bDjKAG8IRZbo3o2tTtZpCYV4SB1Z7eN5o7ea9XkqJQlkMHk3VwQqbHlvyv-ZSZ39ib_WTPqbjilpguMy-iw$ best, Helen _____ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Nicola Wilson via Vwoolf > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:43 PM To: Joshua Phillips >; Shannon, Drew [School of Arts & Humanities] >; Neverow, Vara S. > Cc: vwoolf > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives Dear all, Helen Southworth put together a list of online Virginia Woolf materials during Covid - there will be more available now, but I hope this is helpful to this thread: Virginia Woolf-Related Online Resources | Modernist Archives Publishing Dear all, Helen Southworth put together a list of online Virginia Woolf materials during Covid - there will be more available now, but I hope this is helpful to this thread: Virginia Woolf-Related Online Resources | Modernist Archives Publishing Project Please let us know if you have other things we can update this with! At MAPP (the Modernist Archives Publishing Project) we are working with several library partners (Washington State University, HRC, Berg, Sussex, Reading, Pratt, Peel, Smith) to include full-text scans of original Hogarth Press editions as they come out of copyright - Jacob's Room is available here: Jacob's Room | Modernist Archives Publishing Project (click through to 'first edition of') We are also fortunate as a field that we have many great projects doing sterling work on the drafts and notebooks, like the Woolfonline project mojulem - Woolf Online - Home , and Michele Barrett's new notebooks work connected to Kings. WoolfNotes ? Professor Mich?le Barrett (michelebarrett.com) mojulem - Woolf Online - Home Woolf Online is a digital archive of Virginia Woolf's To the Lighthouse (1927) https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.woolfonline.com__;!!KGKeukY!ya3bDjKAG8IRZbo3o2tTtZpCYV4SB1Z7eN5o7ea9XkqJQlkMHk3VwQqbHlvyv-ZSZ39ib_WTPqbjilqmBku9QA$ Making unpublished archival documents publicly available to research has been a goal at MAPP but yes it's complicated and time-consuming, especially where you don't know the estates involved (thank goodness for the amazing Society of Authors looking after Woolf's estate)! We have run into this a lot with Hogarth Press archival material as you obviously have lots of unknown correspondents in that, and other businesses - we wrote about this archival labour here in a piece that links this work with ideas about data feminism: Digital critical archives, copyright, and feminist praxis | SpringerLink - this is open access if you are interested in reading. Digital critical archives, copyright, and feminist praxis - Archival Science link.springer.com Ab Nicola Dr Nicola Wilson Associate Professor in Book and Publishing Studies English Literature, School of Literature and Languages, Edith Morley, Whiteknights, PO Box 218, Reading, RG6 6AA Tel: +44 (0)118 378 5272 | Twitter: @Nicola_LWilson Co-director of the Centre for Book Cultures and Publishing Co-director of the Modernist Archives Publishing Project Strand editor, 'Women, Publishing, and Book Culture', CUP Elements series on Publishing and Book Culture My most recent publication is a collaboratively-authored article, available open access: 'Digital Critical Archives, Copyright and Feminist Praxis ' _____ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > Sent: 12 July 2023 05:37 To: Joshua Phillips >; Shannon, Drew [School of Arts & Humanities] > Cc: vwoolf > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives Hi everyone, Copyright is very complicated. Some key terms (from the USian copyright laws at: https:?//www.?copyright.?gov/help/faq-definitions.?html): What is copyright infringement? As a general matter, copyright infringement occurs when a copyrighted Hi everyone, Copyright is very complicated. Some key terms (from the USian copyright laws at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq-definitions.html__;!!KGKeukY!ya3bDjKAG8IRZbo3o2tTtZpCYV4SB1Z7eN5o7ea9XkqJQlkMHk3VwQqbHlvyv-ZSZ39ib_WTPqbjilqPy8-n2Q$ ): What is copyright infringement? As a general matter, copyright infringement occurs when a copyrighted work is reproduced, distributed, performed, publicly displayed, or made into a derivative work without the permission of the copyright owner. Where is the public domain? The public domain is not a place. A work of authorship is in the ?public domain? if it is no longer under copyright protection or if it failed to meet the requirements for copyright protection. Works in the public domain may be used freely without the permission of the former copyright owner. We are very, very fortunate that Leonard Woolf and Quentin Bell each endeavored to share such an amazing range of Virginia Woolf's private writings, beginning with A Writer's Diary and bringing those materials out of the archives and into the light. Below is the citation and the link to a useful article (published in 1985) that can help clarify some of the issues surrounding copyright in the US (even though some changes have been made in the interval). "COPYRIGHT FOR SCHOLARS" Author(s): PEGGY L. FOX Source: Paideuma: Modern and Contemporary Poetry and Poetics, Vol. 14, No. 1 (Spring 1985), pp. 129-134 Published by: National Poetry Foundation Stable URL: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jstor.org/stable/24723185__;!!KGKeukY!ya3bDjKAG8IRZbo3o2tTtZpCYV4SB1Z7eN5o7ea9XkqJQlkMHk3VwQqbHlvyv-ZSZ39ib_WTPqbjilopQBtGhg$ Two key quotations from the author, Peggy L. Fox: "Upon occasion I have found it necessary to protest to a scholarly journal or scholarly author that material has been quoted without proper credit and copyright lines being given (let alone a fee being paid) and have met with resistance on the grounds of 'intellectual freedom"?i.e. the concept that since scholars are engaged in spreading knowledge, they should be allowed to quote whomever they wish at whatever length without acknowledgement or payment to anyone" (129). and "...any work published posthumously can secure copyright for 75 years from the date of publication, even if the author has already been dead for a considerable length of time. Thus the unpublished works (letters, notes, unpublished manuscripts) of deceased authors are not in the public domain" (131). If you cannot access Fox's article through your institution, JSTOR provides the option of free (though limited) access: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jstor.org/register?redirectUri=*2Fstable*2F24723185*3Fread-now*3D1*23page_scan_tab_contents__;JSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!ya3bDjKAG8IRZbo3o2tTtZpCYV4SB1Z7eN5o7ea9XkqJQlkMHk3VwQqbHlvyv-ZSZ39ib_WTPqbjiloVqaxkPg$ . And...on a related but different thread...having had to intervene and asked contributors to remove quotations of lyrics from essays that were published in the Miscellany, however resonant with Woolf culture the lyrics might be, I should remind everyone that quoting lyrics without permission from the copyright holder is in a totally different domain of restrictions than "fair use" prose and that it is absolutely unacceptable to quote without formal permission (if you happen to read a book that includes lyrics, you should take a look at the front matter--unless the publisher likes to take on high risk adventures in copyright, you will see a reference to each and every quoted lyric). Embarrassingly, an MLA webpage (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://style.mla.org/formatting-song-lyrics/__;!!KGKeukY!ya3bDjKAG8IRZbo3o2tTtZpCYV4SB1Z7eN5o7ea9XkqJQlkMHk3VwQqbHlvyv-ZSZ39ib_WTPqbjilrihJUTvA$ ) instructs users how to quote a song lyric and--to illustrate it the quotation--it offers two lines from Bob Dylan's Blowing in the Wind ? (it's cringeworthy that this webpage exists at all). If you happen to want guidance on quoting lyrics, this source--EliteAuthors.com--seems to be accurate and informative: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://eliteauthors.com/blog/how-to-quote-song-lyrics-in-your-story/__;!!KGKeukY!ya3bDjKAG8IRZbo3o2tTtZpCYV4SB1Z7eN5o7ea9XkqJQlkMHk3VwQqbHlvyv-ZSZ39ib_WTPqbjilqvzgr5ZQ$ . I know this ramble is somewhat off topic in spots...apologies for any distractions.... Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) _____ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Shannon, Drew [School of Arts & Humanities] via Vwoolf > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:33 PM To: Joshua Phillips > Cc: vwoolf > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives ?Having just returned from a research trip to the Berg a few weeks ago, I thought I'd chime in. I was able to take hundreds of scans of microfilm pages of Woolf's diaries, with the understanding that they would be for my own use in my book ?Having just returned from a research trip to the Berg a few weeks ago, I thought I'd chime in. I was able to take hundreds of scans of microfilm pages of Woolf's diaries, with the understanding that they would be for my own use in my book project, and that under no circumstances would I upload them or share them on any kind of public platform. Those are the Berg's rules, at least for the diaries. Can't vouch for the manuscripts of other works that are in the public domain. Cheers, Drew Drew Shannon, Ph.D. Associate Professor of English Coordinator of English Mount St. Joseph University 5701 Delhi Road Cincinnati, OH 45233 USA (513) 244-4541 Drew.Shannon at msj.edu Historian/Bibliographer of the International Virginia Woolf Society "I meant to write about death, only life came breaking in as usual." -- Virginia Woolf, Diary, 17 February 1922 _____ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Joshua Phillips via Vwoolf > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 4:11 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what?s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines So much of the archive remains behind closed doors for those without access to the microfilms or CD, and even those are becoming less and less accessible. Perhaps what?s needed is a big corporate (so to speak) digital project along the lines of the Beckett Digital Archive, with the Estate and the archives? involvement? The Estate and the Berg have been nothing but amenable to my own smaller digital edition. There?s certainly an intellectual case to be made for a large-scale project like that ? not that I?d have a clue how to get it off the ground. All my best, Josh From: Vwoolf > on behalf of JJ via Vwoolf > Date: Tuesday, 11 July 2023 at 19:48 To: mhussey at verizon.net > Cc: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >, Beverley Rilett > Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussy's reservations about the digitalization of archives On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:?41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:41 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: Dear Beverley, This is an intriguing proposal, but the first thought that occurs to me is how unhappy (& litigious) various archives (Berg, Ransom, Tate?) would be if people starting uploading images of things they own! But thanks very much for this suggestion about how to get a ball rolling! All the best, Mark From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Beverley Rilett via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 3:33 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Dear Virginia Woolf group, Your discussion of copyright and permission to use images in your scholarly work inspired me to write. I?ve long hoped to see a Virginia Woolf Archive similar to the Walt Whitman Archive (U Nebraska & Iowa), Willa Cather Archive (U Nebraska), or George Eliot Archive (formerly U Nebraska, now Auburn U), where researchers from all over the world can find and freely download the author's published and unpublished writings, images?including portraits of the author and illustrations of her scenes and characters, and hundreds of contemporary reviews. Increasingly, these sites are also providing the advanced search options and data visualization tools to help drill down into the thousands of texts collected. Of course, it?s much easier for Victorian and Modern authors who published prior to 1928 (rule-of-thumb in US: copyright on published works lasts 95 years), or who died before 1953 (unpublished works are protected for 70 years after the death of the creator). Those texts and images are now in the public domain and require no permission to republish. You could make a great start with Virginia Woolf because 6 of her 9 published novels are already in the public domain, and if I'm interpreting US copyright law correctly, all the writing she left unpublished at the time of her death (1941), is also available to be published in manuscript images (with transcriptions and editorial apparatus). I bet the knowledgeable people on this list could create a wonderful digital archive of Virginia Woolf materials. (If there?s already one, I?m sorry not to know of its existence.) You probably have already collected hundreds of manuscript photos, images, and pdf documents to share. One of you could start by opening a shared Box or Dropbox folder for everyone to contribute your digital materials. I learned by working with the creators of the Cather and Whitman sites and then with students to build the George Eliot Archive and I'd be happy to offer advice and answer questions if you'd like to create a simple website, something like the George Eliot Archive. Take a look (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://GeorgeEliotArchive.org__;!!KGKeukY!ya3bDjKAG8IRZbo3o2tTtZpCYV4SB1Z7eN5o7ea9XkqJQlkMHk3VwQqbHlvyv-ZSZ39ib_WTPqbjilrw7kQrKg$ ) and see what you think. As one of my colleagues often says, "It doesn't start itself." Also, the old joke about how to eat an elephant may be apt. Enthusiastically, Bev Beverley Park Rilett, Ph.D. Associate Research Professor Special Collections and Archives Department Auburn University Libraries 231 Mell Street, Auburn University, AL 36849 Bdr0032 at auburn.edu ? Director, George Eliot Archive Director, George Eliot Scholars Director, George Eliot Review Online Vice President, George Eliot Fellowship _____ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:04:14 AM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. >; Peter D L Stansky > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional It might be helpful, particularly to people at an early/earlier stage of their career, to have a sort of forum (here?) on the whole issue of permissions. It?s, as the Americans say, something of a crapshoot. According to a friend who is a professional picture researcher, for example, whole archives have been bought by wealthy people needing somewhere to park their money, and these typically are impervious to any negotiation. Then again, Peter?s advice is something I?ve followed many times and often successfully when dealing with a human who understands the situation. Maybe a kind of index to Bloomsbury-related images (an update of Elizabeth Richardson?s invaluable book) would be possible as a crowd-sourced online space? (Says he who has no idea how that might be realized!) On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 02:34:34 PM PDT, Peter D L Stansky > wrote: Those are quite fine photos of them I?d never seen before. Another way of negotiating is to say you are a poor academic who can only afford to pay xdollars or otherwise won?t use the images. They might prefer to have a little money rather than none. That?s worked for me when I?ve sought permission to reprint articles. Best, Peter Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 1:32 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ; danelljones at bresnan.net ; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:?05:?43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut Yes! On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email. Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!ya3bDjKAG8IRZbo3o2tTtZpCYV4SB1Z7eN5o7ea9XkqJQlkMHk3VwQqbHlvyv-ZSZ39ib_WTPqbjilow-wokRQ$ ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & Culture Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish artsandculture.google.com Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!ya3bDjKAG8IRZbo3o2tTtZpCYV4SB1Z7eN5o7ea9XkqJQlkMHk3VwQqbHlvyv-ZSZ39ib_WTPqbjilrfWzyQAQ$ Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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One major collected edition of a twentieth-century author is lacking at least one volume because the owner of preprint material refuses to grant persmission to editors to use it or even to see it. Jeremy H From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 4:59 PM To: 'Helen Southworth' ; 'Nicola Wilson' Cc: 'vwoolf' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussey's reservations about the digitalization of archives Thanks to all who have been posting these invaluable resources. Getting lost, however, is what I understood to be the initiating issue, i.?e. how to deal with obtaining permissions from rights holders who are intransigent or impervious to reasonable Thanks to all who have been posting these invaluable resources. Getting lost, however, is what I understood to be the initiating issue, i.e. how to deal with obtaining permissions from rights holders who are intransigent or impervious to reasonable arguments about scholarly uses versus commercial ones. But all this is very useful info nonetheless (& thanks, Helen, for alerting people to the French scholars? book on the Reading Notebooks, which is a superb example of how what is on Michele Barrett?s recently-launched site can be used.) Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!3XJZTOmYhM1JVvln40W4Cjx3TkpvU5xTXglToTpnPaooV4QNK1ONcHJP1FmEYohCYSeGXQ6jb5tVyami37IrPBANsaH0y-g$ [Image removed by sender.] Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. 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Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:34?PM Marie Claire Boisset wrote: > Dear all: > > A note about the chance find of the following column in *El Pais* (in > English!) about VW: > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://english.elpais.com/culture/2023-07-12/virginia-woolf-an-entire-life-in-a-notebook.html*?prm=copy_link__;Iw!!KGKeukY!0n1N3RxHfTPm6HgrSXdp6H7w2fV3u34dj-W_EQqqE7Wo25PAn2LGCfr7Ig1-8iM5MkmnxF2WuDCTf4eA6OrpyDURGw$ > Shared by Glenn Johnston @glennjohnston - reshared & commented by > Joyce Carol Oates today via Twitter: > > "Woolf's truest, quicksilver wit & originality of mind shone in her > diaries, even more than in her highly polished novels." > > Best, > > Marie-Claire > > > Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie > > > Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. > Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> > Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> > Email MC at Clarior.net > > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential. 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On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:34?PM Marie Claire Boisset wrote: > Dear all: > > A note about the chance find of the following column in *El Pais* (in > English!) about VW: > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://english.elpais.com/culture/2023-07-12/virginia-woolf-an-entire-life-in-a-notebook.html*?prm=copy_link__;Iw!!KGKeukY!zr90WTjt2ZiK4L7_7E_qYYy8gJluEvl9tNHtVadp-qrhY62RFpFLmd-tAYbeTE2dojCz7U4rHQ9zJA$ > Shared by Glenn Johnston @glennjohnston - reshared & commented by > Joyce Carol Oates today via Twitter: > > "Woolf's truest, quicksilver wit & originality of mind shone in her > diaries, even more than in her highly polished novels." > > Best, > > Marie-Claire > > > Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie > > > Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. > Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> > Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> > Email MC at Clarior.net > > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential. 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She gives the example of asking GPT to write a sequel to Mrs Dalloway: 'Evaristo urged attendees to "understand" how the "polymathic" artificial intelligence tool ChatGPT - a chatbot that provides humanlike responses to questions and commands by drawing on internet data - will have an impact on "our precious literature culture". She said that the tool is in one sense a "parasitic, plagiaristic, rapacious super-brain", but that on the other hand it could prove to be "an incredibly useful tool that improves our lives". 'Evaristo described some commands she had fed ChatGPT, including coming up with a sequel to Virginia Woolf's Mrs Dalloway, writing a love poem and penning a short story in the style of Evaristo herself, the result of which she called "awful and a little embarrassing". The author said that though the technology is "nascent", its "potential to improve is exponential", adding that a worst case scenario would be that "we stop thinking for ourselves and slowly become self-lobotomised".' Royal Society of Literature aims to broaden representation as it announces 62 new fellows | Books | The Guardian Best wishes Jane -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.deGay at leedstrinity.ac.uk Fri Jul 14 05:13:06 2023 From: J.deGay at leedstrinity.ac.uk (Jane deGay) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 09:13:06 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf and AI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Happy Friday, Woolfians Here's a Woolf sighting for you. Bernardine Evaristo, President of the UK's Royal Society of Literature has given a speech warning of the threats to literature posed by ChatGPT. She gives the example of asking GPT to write a sequel to Mrs Dalloway: 'Evaristo urged attendees to "understand" how the "polymathic" artificial intelligence tool ChatGPT - a chatbot that provides humanlike responses to questions and commands by drawing on internet data - will have an impact on "our precious literature culture". She said that the tool is in one sense a "parasitic, plagiaristic, rapacious super-brain", but that on the other hand it could prove to be "an incredibly useful tool that improves our lives". 'Evaristo described some commands she had fed ChatGPT, including coming up with a sequel to Virginia Woolf's Mrs Dalloway, writing a love poem and penning a short story in the style of Evaristo herself, the result of which she called "awful and a little embarrassing". The author said that though the technology is "nascent", its "potential to improve is exponential", adding that a worst case scenario would be that "we stop thinking for ourselves and slowly become self-lobotomised".' Royal Society of Literature aims to broaden representation as it announces 62 new fellows | Books | The Guardian Best wishes Jane -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfroula at northwestern.edu Fri Jul 14 06:44:56 2023 From: cfroula at northwestern.edu (Christine Froula) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 06:44:56 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf and AI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On the broader subject of AI and literature, this human mind-boggling report has, among other things, an account of an AI program's completion of a 6 word short story attributed to Hemingway. To my mind it highlights the difference between human imaginative genius and the algorithm's assiduously conventionalizing imitation. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-artificial-intelligence-future-60-minutes-transcript-2023-07-09/__;!!KGKeukY!x0gFSYTDniZ-ie00KvR19Ev3U_yr-Nc-zluhhJ6Sv7LJiuvtZHeoxptEgAorTZsUyb_zb6vovxWgnuu1Dcd2wiTufuo$ Christine On 7/14/2023 4:13 AM, Jane deGay via Vwoolf wrote: > Happy Friday, Woolfians Here?s a Woolf sighting for you. Bernardine > Evaristo, President of the UK?s Royal Society of Literature has given > a speech warning of the threats to literature posed by ChatGPT. She > gives the example of asking > > Happy Friday, Woolfians > > Here?s a Woolf sighting for you. Bernardine Evaristo, President of the > UK?s Royal Society of Literature has given a speech warning of the > threats to literature posed by ChatGPT. She gives the example of > asking GPT to write a sequel to /Mrs Dalloway:/ > > ?Evaristo urged attendees to ?understand? how the ?polymathic? > artificial intelligence tool ChatGPT ? a chatbot that provides > humanlike responses to questions and commands by drawing on internet > data ? will have an impact on ?our precious literature culture?. She > said that the tool is in one sense a ?parasitic, plagiaristic, > rapacious super-brain?, but that on the other hand it could prove to > be ?an incredibly useful tool that improves our lives?. > > ?Evaristo described some commands she had fed ChatGPT, including > coming up with a sequel to Virginia Woolf?s Mrs Dalloway, writing a > love poem and penning a short story in the style of Evaristo herself, > the result of which she called ?awful and a little embarrassing?. The > author said that though the technology is ?nascent?, its ?potential to > improve is exponential?, adding that a worst case scenario would be > that ?we stop thinking for ourselves and slowly become self-lobotomised?.? > > Royal Society of Literature aims to broaden representation as it > announces 62 new fellows | Books | The Guardian > > > Best wishes > > Jane > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!SJLjvhCOBAhrx066RboR4w_cD8uCeK_HVPMzpJZ94A8OAspMxoY-2NgH0G8j5ddzcYHhEeQbNyYIs-z_TVzv4VuVFA$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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She gives the example of asking GPT to write a sequel to Mrs Dalloway: ?Evaristo urged attendees to ?understand? how the ?polymathic? artificial intelligence tool ChatGPT ? a chatbot that provides humanlike responses to questions and commands by drawing on internet data ? will have an impact on ?our precious literature culture?. She said that the tool is in one sense a ?parasitic, plagiaristic, rapacious super-brain?, but that on the other hand it could prove to be ?an incredibly useful tool that improves our lives?. ?Evaristo described some commands she had fed ChatGPT, including coming up with a sequel to Virginia Woolf?s Mrs Dalloway, writing a love poem and penning a short story in the style of Evaristo herself, the result of which she called ?awful and a little embarrassing?. The author said that though the technology is ?nascent?, its ?potential to improve is exponential?, adding that a worst case scenario would be that ?we stop thinking for ourselves and slowly become self-lobotomised?.? Royal Society of Literature aims to broaden representation as it announces 62 new fellows | Books | The Guardian Best wishes Jane -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ozma at sover.net Fri Jul 14 11:57:37 2023 From: ozma at sover.net (Gretchen Gerzina) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 11:57:37 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf and AI Message-ID: <69124DAA-253E-41EC-A4D9-82662A0222B3@sover.net> !-------------------------------------------------------------------| This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. |-------------------------------------------------------------------! Hi, I watched Bernardine Evaristo's speech in real time. You can view it here: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHg2v3Rq0ZM__;!!KGKeukY!2iVLre_HzaRaG-n_ZRjbyFzmeZaC5GziAxCeXx3lUSnI8Udh9IQzUrEDJBsbDXBfEX3QRGU46G2XJEw$ Gretchen Gerzina Today's Topics: 1. Woolf and AI (Jane deGay) 2. Woolf and AI (Jane deGay) 3. Re: Woolf and AI (Christine Froula) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 09:11:43 +0000 From: Jane deGay > To: vwoolf listerve > Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf and AI Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Happy Friday, Woolfians Here's a Woolf sighting for you. Bernardine Evaristo, President of the UK's Royal Society of Literature has given a speech warning of the threats to literature posed by ChatGPT. She gives the example of asking GPT to write a sequel to Mrs Dalloway: 'Evaristo urged attendees to "understand" how the "polymathic" artificial intelligence tool ChatGPT - a chatbot that provides humanlike responses to questions and commands by drawing on internet data - will have an impact on "our precious literature culture". She said that the tool is in one sense a "parasitic, plagiaristic, rapacious super-brain", but that on the other hand it could prove to be "an incredibly useful tool that improves our lives". 'Evaristo described some commands she had fed ChatGPT, including coming up with a sequel to Virginia Woolf's Mrs Dalloway, writing a love poem and penning a short story in the style of Evaristo herself, the result of which she called "awful and a little embarrassing". The author said that though the technology is "nascent", its "potential to improve is exponential", adding that a worst case scenario would be that "we stop thinking for ourselves and slowly become self-lobotomised".' Royal Society of Literature aims to broaden representation as it announces 62 new fellows | Books | The Guardian > Best wishes Jane -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 09:13:06 +0000 From: Jane deGay > To: VWOOLF listserv > Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf and AI Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Happy Friday, Woolfians Here's a Woolf sighting for you. Bernardine Evaristo, President of the UK's Royal Society of Literature has given a speech warning of the threats to literature posed by ChatGPT. She gives the example of asking GPT to write a sequel to Mrs Dalloway: 'Evaristo urged attendees to "understand" how the "polymathic" artificial intelligence tool ChatGPT - a chatbot that provides humanlike responses to questions and commands by drawing on internet data - will have an impact on "our precious literature culture". She said that the tool is in one sense a "parasitic, plagiaristic, rapacious super-brain", but that on the other hand it could prove to be "an incredibly useful tool that improves our lives". 'Evaristo described some commands she had fed ChatGPT, including coming up with a sequel to Virginia Woolf's Mrs Dalloway, writing a love poem and penning a short story in the style of Evaristo herself, the result of which she called "awful and a little embarrassing". The author said that though the technology is "nascent", its "potential to improve is exponential", adding that a worst case scenario would be that "we stop thinking for ourselves and slowly become self-lobotomised".' Royal Society of Literature aims to broaden representation as it announces 62 new fellows | Books | The Guardian > Best wishes Jane -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 06:44:56 -0400 From: Christine Froula > To: > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf and AI Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" On the broader subject of AI and literature, this human mind-boggling report has, among other things, an account of an AI program's completion of a 6 word short story attributed to Hemingway. To my mind it highlights the difference between human imaginative genius and the algorithm's assiduously conventionalizing imitation. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-artificial-intelligence-future-60-minutes-transcript-2023-07-09/__;!!KGKeukY!x0gFSYTDniZ-ie00KvR19Ev3U_yr-Nc-zluhhJ6Sv7LJiuvtZHeoxptEgAorTZsUyb_zb6vovxWgnuu1Dcd2wiTufuo$ > Christine On 7/14/2023 4:13 AM, Jane deGay via Vwoolf wrote: > Happy Friday, Woolfians Here?s a Woolf sighting for you. Bernardine > Evaristo, President of the UK?s Royal Society of Literature has given > a speech warning of the threats to literature posed by ChatGPT. She > gives the example of asking > > Happy Friday, Woolfians > > Here?s a Woolf sighting for you. Bernardine Evaristo, President of the > UK?s Royal Society of Literature has given a speech warning of the > threats to literature posed by ChatGPT. She gives the example of > asking GPT to write a sequel to /Mrs Dalloway:/ > > ?Evaristo urged attendees to ?understand? how the ?polymathic? > artificial intelligence tool ChatGPT ? a chatbot that provides > humanlike responses to questions and commands by drawing on internet > data ? will have an impact on ?our precious literature culture?. She > said that the tool is in one sense a ?parasitic, plagiaristic, > rapacious super-brain?, but that on the other hand it could prove to > be ?an incredibly useful tool that improves our lives?. > > ?Evaristo described some commands she had fed ChatGPT, including > coming up with a sequel to Virginia Woolf?s Mrs Dalloway, writing a > love poem and penning a short story in the style of Evaristo herself, > the result of which she called ?awful and a little embarrassing?. The > author said that though the technology is ?nascent?, its ?potential to > improve is exponential?, adding that a worst case scenario would be > that ?we stop thinking for ourselves and slowly become self-lobotomised?.? > > Royal Society of Literature aims to broaden representation as it > announces 62 new fellows | Books | The Guardian > > > > Best wishes > > Jane > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!SJLjvhCOBAhrx066RboR4w_cD8uCeK_HVPMzpJZ94A8OAspMxoY-2NgH0G8j5ddzcYHhEeQbNyYIs-z_TVzv4VuVFA$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When I arrived at the University of Newcastle 28 years ago (I?ve since retired), a colleague there had just had the horrible experience of Australian poet Gerald Murnane refusing permission for him to quote Murnane?s work?after my colleague had written a (very positive) full-length monograph on it. This effectively killed the project. Disclaimer: I may have details wrong, but that?s how I remember the story. Regards, Caroline Dr Caroline Webb | Honorary Associate Professor, English & Writing College of Human and Social Futures M: +61 (0)421 418 419 E: Caroline.Webb at newcastle.edu.au W: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.newcastle.edu.au/profile/caroline-webb__;!!KGKeukY!wDMT4R_w1JL4E2X9gaU-YBQcPQhkEGAuYKPMiGlZH68vD0D910r9VDxvBbQiIBTnSMWGeP81v1b2at0txdy4a3QH5l4nM6LTKKk$ The University of Newcastle 10 Chittaway Road, Ourimbah NSW 2258 Australia[The University of Newcastle] I acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land in which the University resides and pay my respect to Elders past, present and emerging. I extend this acknowledgement to the Darkinjung people of the land in which the Central Coast campus resides and which I work. CRICOS Provider 00109J From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 1:06 AM To: mhussey at verizon.net; 'Helen Southworth' ; 'Nicola Wilson' Cc: 'vwoolf' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussey's reservations about the digitalization of archives " how to deal with obtaining permissions from rights holders who are intransigent or impervious to reasonable arguments about scholarly uses versus commercial ones". If the holder refuses permission there is not much you can do. One " how to deal with obtaining permissions from rights holders who are intransigent or impervious to reasonable arguments about scholarly uses versus commercial ones". If the holder refuses permission there is not much you can do. One major collected edition of a twentieth-century author is lacking at least one volume because the owner of preprint material refuses to grant persmission to editors to use it or even to see it. Jeremy H From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 4:59 PM To: 'Helen Southworth' >; 'Nicola Wilson' > Cc: 'vwoolf' > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussey's reservations about the digitalization of archives Thanks to all who have been posting these invaluable resources. Getting lost, however, is what I understood to be the initiating issue, i.?e. how to deal with obtaining permissions from rights holders who are intransigent or impervious to reasonable Thanks to all who have been posting these invaluable resources. Getting lost, however, is what I understood to be the initiating issue, i.e. how to deal with obtaining permissions from rights holders who are intransigent or impervious to reasonable arguments about scholarly uses versus commercial ones. But all this is very useful info nonetheless (& thanks, Helen, for alerting people to the French scholars? book on the Reading Notebooks, which is a superb example of how what is on Michele Barrett?s recently-launched site can be used.) Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!wDMT4R_w1JL4E2X9gaU-YBQcPQhkEGAuYKPMiGlZH68vD0D910r9VDxvBbQiIBTnSMWGeP81v1b2at0txdy4a3QH5l4nIJobHqo$ [Image removed by sender.] Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 17208 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 823 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Mon Jul 17 09:19:09 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 09:19:09 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussey's reservations about the digitalization of archives In-Reply-To: References: <03ac01d9b1cc$725f1920$571d4b60$@bresnan.net> <733978053.1399343.1688845305111@mail.yahoo.com> <1515171371.1419087.1688846570890@mail.yahoo.com> <1494642056.1435822.1688848344215@mail.yahoo.com> <21171572.1534688.1688904254552@mail.yahoo.com> <004601d9b416$99137650$cb3a62f0$@verizon.net> <08900062-CCFA-49FA-91AC-4AE522AD0677@sonic.net>, <1689118429783.14917@msj.edu> <00fa01d9b4d1$61048130$230d8390$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <009301d9b8b1$45fe5bc0$d1fb1340$@verizon.net> Indeed. I?m sure we all have similar stories. And sometimes the rights holder wants so much money it also leads to the item not being used. Many years ago I wanted to include a story by Gish Jen in an anthology I was putting together but her agent wanted $3000. My argument that inclusion would lead many new readers to her author who might otherwise never have heard of her got nowhere so I did the book without that piece! But the issue that started this thread, I think, was how to find out who owns rights to photographs, and I think we?ve made some good progress! From: Caroline Webb Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2023 10:06 PM To: Jeremy Hawthorn ; mhussey at verizon.net; 'Helen Southworth' ; 'Nicola Wilson' Cc: 'vwoolf' Subject: RE: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussey's reservations about the digitalization of archives Hi, Commiserations, but as far as I know there?s no way to coerce a rights-holder. When I arrived at the University of Newcastle 28 years ago (I?ve since retired), a colleague there had just had the horrible experience of Australian poet Gerald Murnane refusing permission for him to quote Murnane?s work?after my colleague had written a (very positive) full-length monograph on it. This effectively killed the project. Disclaimer: I may have details wrong, but that?s how I remember the story. Regards, Caroline Dr Caroline Webb | Honorary Associate Professor, English & Writing College of Human and Social Futures M: +61 (0)421 418 419 E: Caroline.Webb at newcastle.edu.au W: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.newcastle.edu.au/profile/caroline-webb__;!!KGKeukY!wPxFAY5NTZNfwnQWSeMhLer0MmdWAUZn2SJpoNyfbbzDZ437JR8BTZWLjWUTmmVDDP7cYOlWAtPiynGRYvJmpg$ The University of Newcastle 10 Chittaway Road, Ourimbah NSW 2258 Australia I acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land in which the University resides and pay my respect to Elders past, present and emerging. I extend this acknowledgement to the Darkinjung people of the land in which the Central Coast campus resides and which I work. CRICOS Provider 00109J From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 1:06 AM To: mhussey at verizon.net ; 'Helen Southworth' >; 'Nicola Wilson' > Cc: 'vwoolf' > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussey's reservations about the digitalization of archives " how to deal with obtaining permissions from rights holders who are intransigent or impervious to reasonable arguments about scholarly uses versus commercial ones". If the holder refuses permission there is not much you can do. One " how to deal with obtaining permissions from rights holders who are intransigent or impervious to reasonable arguments about scholarly uses versus commercial ones". If the holder refuses permission there is not much you can do. One major collected edition of a twentieth-century author is lacking at least one volume because the owner of preprint material refuses to grant persmission to editors to use it or even to see it. Jeremy H From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 4:59 PM To: 'Helen Southworth' >; 'Nicola Wilson' > Cc: 'vwoolf' > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mark Hussey's reservations about the digitalization of archives Thanks to all who have been posting these invaluable resources. Getting lost, however, is what I understood to be the initiating issue, i.?e. how to deal with obtaining permissions from rights holders who are intransigent or impervious to reasonable Thanks to all who have been posting these invaluable resources. Getting lost, however, is what I understood to be the initiating issue, i.e. how to deal with obtaining permissions from rights holders who are intransigent or impervious to reasonable arguments about scholarly uses versus commercial ones. But all this is very useful info nonetheless (& thanks, Helen, for alerting people to the French scholars? book on the Reading Notebooks, which is a superb example of how what is on Michele Barrett?s recently-launched site can be used.) Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 * Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish * Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT * Publisher: TimeLife * Usage: For personal non-commercial use only * Provider: LIFE * Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 * Credits: Mansell * Copyright: ? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!wPxFAY5NTZNfwnQWSeMhLer0MmdWAUZn2SJpoNyfbbzDZ437JR8BTZWLjWUTmmVDDP7cYOlWAtPiynE8ERCztg$ Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & Culture Adeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con... artsandculture.google.com I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names. Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Time is not generous. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover of Time. Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. Thanks! Danell P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 17208 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 823 bytes Desc: not available URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Wed Jul 19 12:42:54 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 16:42:54 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Shakespeare in Bloomsbury--Google Alert Message-ID: Greetings, Yale University Press will publish Marjorie Garber's new book Shakespeare in Bloomsbury (see the link below) in September. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300267563/shakespeare-in-bloomsbury/__;!!KGKeukY!0Yx8i55jUMkVAW4gImg9P5CPOqJQRjWat3-RruP_VyZ8WLpyrpEtXrxvTYL7gDleqKxNvputyHJJ-0VRmwoU7-TYhIlu$ Cheers, Vara p.s. My apologies if anyone has already shared this information. 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URL: From sbarkway at btinternet.com Fri Jul 21 04:26:08 2023 From: sbarkway at btinternet.com (sbarkway at btinternet.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 09:26:08 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Message-ID: <02eb01d9bbac$fff67050$ffe350f0$@btinternet.com> Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out__;!!KGKeukY!1SGQBa6l7gkFcVPiFvEv5UqI7Bze79cBZUb5l_7WlkB5AVSWpjtomF7xbtFIWvH17HENGRSpvndm5f4iN7Qzv1qz$ -rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680 Now, where did I put my copy of . . . . Stephen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfroula at northwestern.edu Fri Jul 21 06:53:11 2023 From: cfroula at northwestern.edu (Christine Froula) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 06:53:11 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! In-Reply-To: <02eb01d9bbac$fff67050$ffe350f0$@btinternet.com> References: <02eb01d9bbac$fff67050$ffe350f0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: > Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a > link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being > misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. > https:?//www.?abc.?net.?au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680 > > Here is an article about an interesting copy of /The Voyage Out/, with > a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after > being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680__;!!KGKeukY!wl5zSj_MwhWRvcXj9dRWB25LGqniRzEvE4arvVPaeWDuMMCuIrhm6wVwtDBnWDoAtdTXpjoyKD9KFEr3uR-_N7A08Cw$ > > > Now, where did I put my copy of . . . . > > Stephen > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!UytDzZeHX9q0VRPbt1EGzaFiu_DGN-fvmbwr9fsTv10XVePcJ4AjCyJOdXYWVx37Vd9SZOoeMaOA3xNgB_JxZNHOYA$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Fri Jul 21 08:11:36 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (Mark Hussey) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! In-Reply-To: References: <02eb01d9bbac$fff67050$ffe350f0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <1686239613.3338133.1689941496550@mail.yahoo.com> This is so exciting, and how wonderful of U of Sydney to make it available in this way. Thanks Stephen! On Friday, July 21, 2023, 06:53:36 AM EDT, Christine Froula via Vwoolf wrote: Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:?26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney.https:?//www.?abc.?net.?au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680 Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. ? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680__;!!KGKeukY!2_rLNg0LkSH6yIEaGtneWcu7L5-Q_rkwCcmFiQRY-TF1GHGZQItvz3tQ1RbpGSBp0VHNtffiC2ZsjQ0BhmfBqQ$ ? Now, where did I put my copy of . . . . ? Stephen _______________________________________________Vwoolf mailing listVwoolf at lists.osu.eduhttps://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!UytDzZeHX9q0VRPbt1EGzaFiu_DGN-fvmbwr9fsTv10XVePcJ4AjCyJOdXYWVx37Vd9SZOoeMaOA3xNgB_JxZNHOYA$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Fri Jul 21 08:20:14 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:20:14 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! In-Reply-To: References: <02eb01d9bbac$fff67050$ffe350f0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: A fascinating discovery! There?s an echo here of the recent conversation about access to archival materials. It?s wonderful that a library is sharing access to the rediscovered copy but at the same time it?s very frustrating that there is another volume of A Voyage Out with Woolf?s own edits held in a ?private collection? that does not deign to offer access. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women?s and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Christine Froula via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 6:53 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:?26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https:?//www.?abc.?net.?au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680 Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680__;!!KGKeukY!z4681nnrDeLSUG6si9G43MuO0UW2Y393d84z7sYXp06Jv5TxZgsL4Jp3l5GJl_V3fbmGy-Ce8zsIllUtNl07RMgTSugb$ Now, where did I put my copy of . . . . Stephen _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!UytDzZeHX9q0VRPbt1EGzaFiu_DGN-fvmbwr9fsTv10XVePcJ4AjCyJOdXYWVx37Vd9SZOoeMaOA3xNgB_JxZNHOYA$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helen at uoregon.edu Fri Jul 21 09:20:30 2023 From: helen at uoregon.edu (Helen Southworth) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 13:20:30 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! In-Reply-To: References: <02eb01d9bbac$fff67050$ffe350f0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Christine Froula via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:53 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:?26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https:?//www.?abc.?net.?au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680 Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680__;!!KGKeukY!zmx0XijAi3q3AiKyZsijpyGVQHzRmvpronFN4bjS_zHBX9oLL78zrBO3FQn1smiQeQwbqMf7MB8QPb85PZLs$ Now, where did I put my copy of . . . . Stephen _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!UytDzZeHX9q0VRPbt1EGzaFiu_DGN-fvmbwr9fsTv10XVePcJ4AjCyJOdXYWVx37Vd9SZOoeMaOA3xNgB_JxZNHOYA$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Fri Jul 21 09:59:37 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 09:59:37 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! In-Reply-To: References: <02eb01d9bbac$fff67050$ffe350f0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <001e01d9bbdb$972ef810$c58ce830$@verizon.net> So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in a private collection? I expect the editors of the forthcoming (eventually?) CUP edition will need to sort all this out! Haule, DeSalvo and others all have interesting speculations about the complicated publication history of the 1920 US edition. From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Helen Southworth via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 9:21 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Christine Froula Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen From: Vwoolf Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen _____ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Christine Froula via Vwoolf > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:53 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:?26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https:?//www.?abc.?net.?au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680 Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680__;!!KGKeukY!xY4YDUPzlPn1pPfMfkYQIYzsqujlFfwBzOvYy2mV_q93CCpbJA_GtJnmOIFeZqFhgrzcJp9qoD9Pr8UIkDQIEA$ Now, where did I put my copy of . . . . Stephen _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!UytDzZeHX9q0VRPbt1EGzaFiu_DGN-fvmbwr9fsTv10XVePcJ4AjCyJOdXYWVx37Vd9SZOoeMaOA3xNgB_JxZNHOYA$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Fri Jul 21 10:11:47 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 14:11:47 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! In-Reply-To: <001e01d9bbdb$972ef810$c58ce830$@verizon.net> References: <02eb01d9bbac$fff67050$ffe350f0$@btinternet.com> <001e01d9bbdb$972ef810$c58ce830$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Anyone who wants to read Haule's 1996 essay can access it as a downloadable PDF at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jstor.org/stable/441765__;!!KGKeukY!zg99ZlV2TfYy-yo_x5bdGyNMAYAl3xOuFb-cBu2kxvH9T9zyHu7Vr8859IUJdPA74z49w8o7c-tH-acx6Rg64_Q3o3Hp$ . If you do not have access to a university library, you can read it online by creating a free account at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jstor.org/register__;!!KGKeukY!zg99ZlV2TfYy-yo_x5bdGyNMAYAl3xOuFb-cBu2kxvH9T9zyHu7Vr8859IUJdPA74z49w8o7c-tH-acx6Rg64_m5PPLj$ . Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 9:59 AM To: 'Helen Southworth' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Christine Froula' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in a private collection? I expect the editors of the forthcoming (eventually?) CUP edition will need to sort all this out! Haule, DeSalvo and others all have interesting speculations about the complicated publication history of the 1920 US edition. From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Helen Southworth via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 9:21 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Christine Froula Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen From: Vwoolf Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Christine Froula via Vwoolf > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:53 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:?26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https:?//www.?abc.?net.?au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680 Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680__;!!KGKeukY!zg99ZlV2TfYy-yo_x5bdGyNMAYAl3xOuFb-cBu2kxvH9T9zyHu7Vr8859IUJdPA74z49w8o7c-tH-acx6Rg64-krTGSG$ Now, where did I put my copy of . . . . Stephen _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!UytDzZeHX9q0VRPbt1EGzaFiu_DGN-fvmbwr9fsTv10XVePcJ4AjCyJOdXYWVx37Vd9SZOoeMaOA3xNgB_JxZNHOYA$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com Fri Jul 21 10:12:59 2023 From: stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com (Stuart N. Clarke) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:12:59 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! In-Reply-To: <001e01d9bbdb$972ef810$c58ce830$@verizon.net> References: <02eb01d9bbac$fff67050$ffe350f0$@btinternet.com> <001e01d9bbdb$972ef810$c58ce830$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <3438A9F85ABB4BC4ABD43F08DECB6FD4@StuartHP> No, it is not. The Adams copy has ?disappeared? following the sale after his death. That copy had gone to the US for the production of the 1920 edition. This is the other copy that Woolf herself seems to have kept as a copy of what she had sent, but, of course, there are discrepancies between the two copies. See e.g. pp. 4-5 of the Kirkpatrick Bibliography, 4th edn. Stuart From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 2:59 PM To: 'Helen Southworth' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Christine Froula' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in a private collection? I expect the editors of the forthcoming (eventually?) CUP edition will need to sort all this out! Haule, DeSalvo and others all have interesting speculations about the complicated publication history of the 1920 US edition. From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Helen Southworth via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 9:21 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Christine Froula Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen From: Vwoolf Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vwoolf on behalf of Christine Froula via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:53 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:?26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https:?//www.?abc.?net.?au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680 Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680__;!!KGKeukY!37o8uBjDrREFUPG1i8Ech3KtSoXTXhihTYChUONc6pzzNSTeam9ckkvdLJ1E4YTIgrR_4CPrOhQ7IByGt54hkMSs5e2r-vuM6g$ Now, where did I put my copy of . . . . Stephen _______________________________________________Vwoolf mailing listVwoolf at lists.osu.eduhttps://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!UytDzZeHX9q0VRPbt1EGzaFiu_DGN-fvmbwr9fsTv10XVePcJ4AjCyJOdXYWVx37Vd9SZOoeMaOA3xNgB_JxZNHOYA$ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Fri Jul 21 10:18:15 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:18:15 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! In-Reply-To: <3438A9F85ABB4BC4ABD43F08DECB6FD4@StuartHP> References: <02eb01d9bbac$fff67050$ffe350f0$@btinternet.com> <001e01d9bbdb$972ef810$c58ce830$@verizon.net> <3438A9F85ABB4BC4ABD43F08DECB6FD4@StuartHP> Message-ID: <001001d9bbde$30d96e30$928c4a90$@verizon.net> Thanks Stuart. This very helpful. But is it the case that the Adams copy was at one point at U of Sydney, or is that an old error in the record? Perhaps, given what you say, it is the Adams that?s in private hands now? From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 10:13 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! No, it is not. The Adams copy has ?disappeared? following the sale after his death. That copy had gone to the US for the production of the 1920 edition. This is the other copy that Woolf herself seems to have kept as a copy of what she had No, it is not. The Adams copy has ?disappeared? following the sale after his death. That copy had gone to the US for the production of the 1920 edition. This is the other copy that Woolf herself seems to have kept as a copy of what she had sent, but, of course, there are discrepancies between the two copies. See e.g. pp. 4-5 of the Kirkpatrick Bibliography, 4th edn. Stuart From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 2:59 PM To: 'Helen Southworth' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Christine Froula' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in a private collection? I expect the editors of the forthcoming (eventually?) CUP edition will need to sort all this out! Haule, DeSalvo and others all have interesting speculations about the complicated publication history of the 1920 US edition. From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Helen Southworth via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 9:21 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Christine Froula > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen From: Vwoolf Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen _____ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Christine Froula via Vwoolf > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:53 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:?26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https:?//www.?abc.?net.?au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680 Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680__;!!KGKeukY!0H5VEp9qaRR6fIFr53CZiqYinnNwzPaBWkr766fRlj8jeV72YyRpbzuVwlrP4NpwQwSVECf1dMvpqNxFqH2KyQ$ Now, where did I put my copy of . . . . Stephen _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!UytDzZeHX9q0VRPbt1EGzaFiu_DGN-fvmbwr9fsTv10XVePcJ4AjCyJOdXYWVx37Vd9SZOoeMaOA3xNgB_JxZNHOYA$ _____ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From megan.quigley at gmail.com Fri Jul 21 10:35:37 2023 From: megan.quigley at gmail.com (Megan Quigley) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:35:37 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! In-Reply-To: References: <02eb01d9bbac$fff67050$ffe350f0$@btinternet.com> <001e01d9bbdb$972ef810$c58ce830$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Thank you, all! Fascinating. And I can't be the only one thinking: I'm glad some of those Sydney changes and deletions weren't carried out! On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 10:12?AM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Anyone who wants to read Haule's 1996 essay can access it as a > downloadable PDF at: https: //www. jstor. org/stable/441765. If you do not > have access to a university library, you can read it online by creating a > free account at: https: //www. jstor. org/register. > Anyone who wants to read Haule's 1996 essay can access it as a > downloadable PDF at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jstor.org/stable/441765__;!!KGKeukY!2Ru6ZhETOILRp4DgSKqrvEonWt1BAEH1CRGXD-iec4fFwqur7xr1fbSYy9-WwpzEOebo7dyVys6Fvvxnn2MWTodyxiQ$ > > . > > If you do not have access to a university library, you can read it online > by creating a free account at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jstor.org/register__;!!KGKeukY!2Ru6ZhETOILRp4DgSKqrvEonWt1BAEH1CRGXD-iec4fFwqur7xr1fbSYy9-WwpzEOebo7dyVys6Fvvxnn2MWEJNv16s$ > > . > > Vara > > > Vara Neverow > (she/her/hers) > Professor, English Department > Editor, *Virginia Woolf Miscellany* > Southern Connecticut State University > New Haven, CT 06515 > 203-392-6717 > neverowv1 at southernct.edu > > *I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on > traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the > Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. * > > > *Recent Publications:* > > Lead editor, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources *(Bloomsbury, > 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume > One, 1975-1984, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources* (Bloomsbury, > 2020); Co-editor, *The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and > Contemporary Global Literature* (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, > Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf on > behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2023 9:59 AM > *To:* 'Helen Southworth' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>; 'Christine Froula' > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! > > So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had > been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it > at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about > the copy held in > > So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had > been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it > at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about > the copy held in a private collection? I expect the editors of the > forthcoming (eventually?) CUP edition will need to sort all this out! > Haule, DeSalvo and others all have interesting speculations about the > complicated publication history of the 1920 US edition. > > > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *Helen > Southworth via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2023 9:21 AM > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Christine Froula > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! > > > > Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some > New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of > the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen > From: Vwoolf > > Hi Christine and all, > > See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, > 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think > he got to look at it before it got mislaid. > > Best, > > Helen > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Vwoolf on behalf > of Christine Froula via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2023 3:53 AM > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! > > > > Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound > up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? > Christine On 7/21/2023 3: 26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is > an article about an interesting > > Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound > up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? > > Christine > > On 7/21/2023 3:26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: > > Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a > link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being > misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https: //www. abc. net. > au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680 > > Here is an article about an interesting copy of *The Voyage Out*, with a > link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being > misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. > > > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680__;!!KGKeukY!2Ru6ZhETOILRp4DgSKqrvEonWt1BAEH1CRGXD-iec4fFwqur7xr1fbSYy9-WwpzEOebo7dyVys6Fvvxnn2MWg-tNxU0$ > > > > > Now, where did I put my copy of . . . . > > > > Stephen > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Vwoolf mailing list > > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!UytDzZeHX9q0VRPbt1EGzaFiu_DGN-fvmbwr9fsTv10XVePcJ4AjCyJOdXYWVx37Vd9SZOoeMaOA3xNgB_JxZNHOYA$ > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com Fri Jul 21 10:48:26 2023 From: stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com (Stuart N. Clarke) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:48:26 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! In-Reply-To: <001001d9bbde$30d96e30$928c4a90$@verizon.net> References: <02eb01d9bbac$fff67050$ffe350f0$@btinternet.com> <001e01d9bbdb$972ef810$c58ce830$@verizon.net> <3438A9F85ABB4BC4ABD43F08DECB6FD4@StuartHP> <001001d9bbde$30d96e30$928c4a90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <82E3CC365CE743C78F746FBB6E383EC1@StuartHP> No, the Adams copy was never at Sydney U. His copy, which he had had for years, was known about. See his p. 265 in the 2nd edn of the Bibliog (1967) opp. p. 3, and the details supplied by him on p. 4. Adams?s copy was sold at Sotheby?s on 6 Nov 2001: "The Library of Frederick B. Adams, Jr - Part 1: English & American Literature" (Sale L01910U), p. 53, item 82 (illustration of pp. 264-5 on p. 52) ? for ?80,000 (not inc. buyer?s premium). Stuart From: mhussey at verizon.net Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:18 PM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: RE: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Thanks Stuart. This very helpful. But is it the case that the Adams copy was at one point at U of Sydney, or is that an old error in the record? Perhaps, given what you say, it is the Adams that?s in private hands now? From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 10:13 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! No, it is not. The Adams copy has ?disappeared? following the sale after his death. That copy had gone to the US for the production of the 1920 edition. This is the other copy that Woolf herself seems to have kept as a copy of what she had No, it is not. The Adams copy has ?disappeared? following the sale after his death. That copy had gone to the US for the production of the 1920 edition. This is the other copy that Woolf herself seems to have kept as a copy of what she had sent, but, of course, there are discrepancies between the two copies. See e.g. pp. 4-5 of the Kirkpatrick Bibliography, 4th edn. Stuart From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 2:59 PM To: 'Helen Southworth' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Christine Froula' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in a private collection? I expect the editors of the forthcoming (eventually?) CUP edition will need to sort all this out! Haule, DeSalvo and others all have interesting speculations about the complicated publication history of the 1920 US edition. From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Helen Southworth via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 9:21 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Christine Froula Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen From: Vwoolf Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vwoolf on behalf of Christine Froula via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:53 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:?26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https:?//www.?abc.?net.?au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680 Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680__;!!KGKeukY!wmqoU0cA7SFHesBRljJAYG1I-ztdWWUJn_jliggOWB0T_vM_2xvKeK0n705bhM1N6p_hvINU0GIGYcnnrAtwNZBnenDt6-J8sg$ Now, where did I put my copy of . . . . Stephen _______________________________________________Vwoolf mailing listVwoolf at lists.osu.eduhttps://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!UytDzZeHX9q0VRPbt1EGzaFiu_DGN-fvmbwr9fsTv10XVePcJ4AjCyJOdXYWVx37Vd9SZOoeMaOA3xNgB_JxZNHOYA$ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Fri Jul 21 10:50:28 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (Mark Hussey) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 14:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! In-Reply-To: <82E3CC365CE743C78F746FBB6E383EC1@StuartHP> References: <02eb01d9bbac$fff67050$ffe350f0$@btinternet.com> <001e01d9bbdb$972ef810$c58ce830$@verizon.net> <3438A9F85ABB4BC4ABD43F08DECB6FD4@StuartHP> <001001d9bbde$30d96e30$928c4a90$@verizon.net> <82E3CC365CE743C78F746FBB6E383EC1@StuartHP> Message-ID: <1989723651.3413484.1689951028745@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Stuart (as you can tell, I am too lazy at the moment to do my own looking things up!).? On Friday, July 21, 2023, 10:48:29 AM EDT, Stuart N. Clarke wrote: No, the Adams copy was never at Sydney U.? His copy, which he had had for years, was known about.? See his p. 265 in the 2nd edn of the Bibliog (1967) opp. p. 3, and the details supplied by him on p. 4.?Adams?s copy was sold at Sotheby?s on 6 Nov 2001: "The Library of Frederick B. Adams, Jr - Part 1: English & American Literature" (Sale L01910U), p. 53, item 82 (illustration of pp. 264-5 on p. 52) ? for ?80,000 (not inc. buyer?s premium).?Stuart?From: mhussey at verizon.net Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:18 PMTo: 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: RE: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing!? Thanks Stuart. This very helpful. But is it the case that the Adams copy was at one point at U of Sydney, or is that an old error in the record? Perhaps, given what you say, it is the Adams that?s in private hands now? ? From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 10:13 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! ? No, it is not. The Adams copy has ?disappeared? following the sale after his death. That copy had gone to the US for the production of the 1920 edition. This is the other copy that Woolf herself seems to have kept as a copy of what she had No, it is not.? The Adams copy has ?disappeared? following the sale after his death.? That copy had gone to the US for the production of the 1920 edition.? This is the other copy that Woolf herself seems to have kept as a copy of what she had sent, but, of course, there are discrepancies between the two copies.? See e.g. pp. 4-5 of the Kirkpatrick Bibliography, 4th edn. ? Stuart ? From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 2:59 PM To: 'Helen Southworth' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Christine Froula' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! ? So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in a private collection?? I expect the editors of the forthcoming (eventually?) CUP edition will need to sort all this out! Haule, DeSalvo and others all have interesting speculations about the complicated publication history of the 1920 US edition. ? From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Helen Southworth via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 9:21 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Christine Froula Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! ? Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen From: Vwoolf Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy.? I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen From: Vwoolf on behalf of Christine Froula via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:53 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! ? Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:?26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https:?//www.?abc.?net.?au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680 Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. ? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680__;!!KGKeukY!3bPzvKWh0A3_NhY4qBY6cSCr8INdN44oR0J2AlXTmK4BR67CWPlNbm0dLRnr6aEbd6zY4kOztQi1SD7cv_tXmg$ ? Now, where did I put my copy of . . . . ? Stephen ? _______________________________________________Vwoolf mailing listVwoolf at lists.osu.eduhttps://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!UytDzZeHX9q0VRPbt1EGzaFiu_DGN-fvmbwr9fsTv10XVePcJ4AjCyJOdXYWVx37Vd9SZOoeMaOA3xNgB_JxZNHOYA$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com Fri Jul 21 10:51:40 2023 From: stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com (Stuart N. Clarke) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:51:40 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Message-ID: <9FB2F57D1BAD4D41BC126CCD36158163@StuartHP> Actually, we can go further back- see Adams?s p. 265 in the 1st edn of the Bibliog (1957) opp. p. 3, and the details supplied by him on p. 4. From: Stuart N. Clarke Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:48 PM To: mhussey at verizon.net ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! No, the Adams copy was never at Sydney U. His copy, which he had had for years, was known about. See his p. 265 in the 2nd edn of the Bibliog (1967) opp. p. 3, and the details supplied by him on p. 4. Adams?s copy was sold at Sotheby?s on 6 Nov 2001: "The Library of Frederick B. Adams, Jr - Part 1: English & American Literature" (Sale L01910U), p. 53, item 82 (illustration of pp. 264-5 on p. 52) ? for ?80,000 (not inc. buyer?s premium). Stuart From: mhussey at verizon.net Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:18 PM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: RE: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Thanks Stuart. This very helpful. But is it the case that the Adams copy was at one point at U of Sydney, or is that an old error in the record? Perhaps, given what you say, it is the Adams that?s in private hands now? From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 10:13 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! No, it is not. The Adams copy has ?disappeared? following the sale after his death. That copy had gone to the US for the production of the 1920 edition. This is the other copy that Woolf herself seems to have kept as a copy of what she had No, it is not. The Adams copy has ?disappeared? following the sale after his death. That copy had gone to the US for the production of the 1920 edition. This is the other copy that Woolf herself seems to have kept as a copy of what she had sent, but, of course, there are discrepancies between the two copies. See e.g. pp. 4-5 of the Kirkpatrick Bibliography, 4th edn. Stuart From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 2:59 PM To: 'Helen Southworth' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Christine Froula' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in a private collection? I expect the editors of the forthcoming (eventually?) CUP edition will need to sort all this out! Haule, DeSalvo and others all have interesting speculations about the complicated publication history of the 1920 US edition. From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Helen Southworth via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 9:21 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Christine Froula Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen From: Vwoolf Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vwoolf on behalf of Christine Froula via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:53 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:?26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https:?//www.?abc.?net.?au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680 Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680__;!!KGKeukY!3z01wVWvk583d1gyjQqhAzPNjNlkTuxCgX5TeQBmISEPbGwUYS_nUFAMmOCqOYEMAdg4tijdlJrf23zubNqN4LDPwgLGwXZ-JA$ Now, where did I put my copy of . . . . 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In-Reply-To: <9FB2F57D1BAD4D41BC126CCD36158163@StuartHP> References: <9FB2F57D1BAD4D41BC126CCD36158163@StuartHP> Message-ID: <523b1ad0f2e54b20aa94ab1497c3e5f6@U-EXH-1.liunet.edu> What a find! Such wonderful digging, Stephen! Kathy From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 10:52 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! WARNING: This email originated from outside of Long Island University. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. - LIU Information Technology Actually, we can go further back- see Adams?s p. 265 in the 1st edn of the Bibliog (1957) opp. p. 3, and the details supplied by him on p. 4. From: Stuart N. Clarke Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:?48 PM To: mhussey@?verizon.?net ; vwoolf@?lists.?osu.?edu Actually, we can go further back- see Adams?s p. 265 in the 1st edn of the Bibliog (1957) opp. p. 3, and the details supplied by him on p. 4. From: Stuart N. Clarke Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:48 PM To: mhussey at verizon.net ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! No, the Adams copy was never at Sydney U. His copy, which he had had for years, was known about. See his p. 265 in the 2nd edn of the Bibliog (1967) opp. p. 3, and the details supplied by him on p. 4. Adams?s copy was sold at Sotheby?s on 6 Nov 2001: "The Library of Frederick B. Adams, Jr - Part 1: English & American Literature" (Sale L01910U), p. 53, item 82 (illustration of pp. 264-5 on p. 52) ? for ?80,000 (not inc. buyer?s premium). Stuart From: mhussey at verizon.net Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:18 PM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: RE: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Thanks Stuart. This very helpful. But is it the case that the Adams copy was at one point at U of Sydney, or is that an old error in the record? Perhaps, given what you say, it is the Adams that?s in private hands now? From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 10:13 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! No, it is not. The Adams copy has ?disappeared? following the sale after his death. That copy had gone to the US for the production of the 1920 edition. This is the other copy that Woolf herself seems to have kept as a copy of what she had No, it is not. The Adams copy has ?disappeared? following the sale after his death. That copy had gone to the US for the production of the 1920 edition. This is the other copy that Woolf herself seems to have kept as a copy of what she had sent, but, of course, there are discrepancies between the two copies. See e.g. pp. 4-5 of the Kirkpatrick Bibliography, 4th edn. Stuart From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 2:59 PM To: 'Helen Southworth' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Christine Froula' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in So, is this the Frederick B. Adams copy (which Louise DeSalvo thought had been sold in the mid-1970s by Bow Windows in Lewes)? James Haule located it at the Fisher Library at U of Sydney. Does anyone know anything more about the copy held in a private collection? I expect the editors of the forthcoming (eventually?) CUP edition will need to sort all this out! Haule, DeSalvo and others all have interesting speculations about the complicated publication history of the 1920 US edition. From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Helen Southworth via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 9:21 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Christine Froula > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen From: Vwoolf Hi Christine and all, See Haule's essay ("VW's Revisions of The VO: Some New Evidence," TCL, 1996), mentioned in the article, for the trajectory of the copy. I think he got to look at it before it got mislaid. Best, Helen ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Christine Froula via Vwoolf > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:53 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] The Voyage Out - the importance of good filing! Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:?26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting Amazing, exciting find, thanks for sending, Stephen. Wonder how it wound up in Bow Windows Bookshop around 1976, 7 years after Leonard's death? Christine On 7/21/2023 3:26 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https:?//www.?abc.?net.?au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680 Here is an article about an interesting copy of The Voyage Out, with a link to a digitised copy, which has bobbed to the surface after being misfiled for years in the University of Sydney. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-21/virginia-woolf-copy-of-the-voyage-out-rediscovered-at-sydney-uni/102629680__;!!KGKeukY!wdCC9pk_yzHNarastP4mdT97U0J9cTcpisJRjeZ5hxeoB-36hVRxKuFEjdtOc1qjVNA2ZU_43FynqVJHTeUKOhRuoDG8qRM$ Now, where did I put my copy of . . . . 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Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 14:14:57 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Another article: Virginia Woolf: Personal copy of debut novel resurfaces In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Virginia Woolf: Personal copy of debut novel resurfaces https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66273443__;!!KGKeukY!y7DmU4bEpZam6RLXr8rkrj-XU1LHxKA742yxxTCOWNv1FbtUQkRWacK0JuzA206JfaGFVTMXwqF681Hiajb-0-9zkVZ6$ The BBC article zeroes in on Woolf's mental health issues with a disturbing and almost ghoulish obsessiveness. 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On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 06:03:15 AM CDT, vwoolf-request at lists.osu.edu wrote: Send Vwoolf mailing list submissions to ??? vwoolf at lists.osu.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? vwoolf-request at lists.osu.edu You can reach the person managing the list at ??? vwoolf-owner at lists.osu.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Vwoolf digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Another article: Virginia Woolf: Personal copy of debut novel ? ? ? resurfaces (Neverow, Vara S.) ? 2. Fwd: [The Washington Post] Spain has been a progressive ? ? ? model. Now far-right Vox has a shot at power?ORLANDO banned in ? ? ? Spain?. (Kllevenback) ? 3. Frederick William Maitland, Leslie Stephen's biographer ? ? ? (Stuart N. Clarke) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 14:14:57 +0000 From: "Neverow, Vara S." To: vwoolf listerve Subject: [Vwoolf] Another article: Virginia Woolf: Personal copy of ??? debut novel resurfaces Message-ID: ??? ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Virginia Woolf: Personal copy of debut novel resurfaces https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66273443__;!!KGKeukY!y7DmU4bEpZam6RLXr8rkrj-XU1LHxKA742yxxTCOWNv1FbtUQkRWacK0JuzA206JfaGFVTMXwqF681Hiajb-0-9zkVZ6$ The BBC article zeroes in on Woolf's mental health issues with a disturbing and almost ghoulish obsessiveness. 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Hi, All, I'm forwarding a research question from J Ellen Ganior bc I haven't the slightest inkling of an answer. Any help would be appreciated--- all best, Shilo ------ Hi Shilo?For some work I'm doing on actress/playwright Elizabeth Hi, All, I'm forwarding a research question from J Ellen Ganior bc I haven't the slightest inkling of an answer. Any help would be appreciated--- all best, Shilo ------ Hi Shilo?For some work I'm doing on actress/playwright Elizabeth Robins, I've run across some references to letters sent to Robins by Dr. Octavia Wilberforce, very possibly about Woolf that, according to Jane Marcus (1978), were not yet allowed to be published. Do you know if they are now available? They are apparently about Woolf's mental health, but I'm curious as to why Wilberforce was sharing that info with Robins (it appears they were close), so there's a complex history here, it appears. Any info welcome! Thank you-- Ellen J. 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Clarke) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 21:22:39 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Vwoolf Digest, Vol 134, Issue 56 In-Reply-To: <1897832721.2458468.1690216582942@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1897832721.2458468.1690216582942@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: As I wrote on 21 July: The theory is that the Adams copy went to Doran for the setting (production) of the 1920 US edition. Woolf herself seems to have kept the SydneyU Library copy as a record of what she had sent, but, of course, there are discrepancies between the two copies. Theories are there to be challenged . . . Stuart From: Ann Campbell via Vwoolf Sent: Monday, July 24, 2023 5:36 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Vwoolf Digest, Vol 134, Issue 56 This may be a foolish question that has already been answered in the thread about the recent find of Woolf's personal copy of The Voyage Out at the museum in Australia, but do we know for certain that the edits and comments and typed additions This may be a foolish question that has already been answered in the thread about the recent find of Woolf's personal copy of The Voyage Out at the museum in Australia, but do we know for certain that the edits and comments and typed additions in this copy were made by Woolf *before* the 1920 publication of the American edition of the novel? On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 06:03:15 AM CDT, vwoolf-request at lists.osu.edu wrote: Send Vwoolf mailing list submissions to vwoolf at lists.osu.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to vwoolf-request at lists.osu.edu You can reach the person managing the list at vwoolf-owner at lists.osu.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Vwoolf digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Another article: Virginia Woolf: Personal copy of debut novel resurfaces (Neverow, Vara S.) 2. Fwd: [The Washington Post] Spain has been a progressive model. Now far-right Vox has a shot at power?ORLANDO banned in Spain?. (Kllevenback) 3. Frederick William Maitland, Leslie Stephen's biographer (Stuart N. Clarke) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 14:14:57 +0000 From: "Neverow, Vara S." To: vwoolf listerve Subject: [Vwoolf] Another article: Virginia Woolf: Personal copy of debut novel resurfaces Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Virginia Woolf: Personal copy of debut novel resurfaces https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66273443__;!!KGKeukY!y7DmU4bEpZam6RLXr8rkrj-XU1LHxKA742yxxTCOWNv1FbtUQkRWacK0JuzA206JfaGFVTMXwqF681Hiajb-0-9zkVZ6$ The BBC article zeroes in on Woolf's mental health issues with a disturbing and almost ghoulish obsessiveness. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3338f49b-3d44-ee96-67bd-0224906286ea@northwestern.edu> Ellen and all, see the Appendix to Herbert Marder's biography The Measure of Life--you'll find your questions answered, I think; Christine On 7/24/2023 1:54 PM, Shilo McGiff via Vwoolf wrote: > Hi, All, I'm forwarding a research question from J Ellen Ganior bc I > haven't the slightest inkling of an answer. Any help would be > appreciated--- all best, Shilo ------ Hi Shilo?For some work I'm doing > on actress/playwright Elizabeth > Hi, All, > > I'm forwarding a research question from J Ellen Ganior bc I haven't > the slightest inkling of an answer. Any help would be appreciated--- > > all best, > Shilo > > ------ > > Hi Shilo?For some work I'm doing on actress/playwright Elizabeth > Robins, I've run across some references to letters sent to Robins by > Dr. Octavia Wilberforce, very possibly about Woolf that, according to > Jane Marcus (1978), were not yet allowed to be published.? Do you know > if they are now available? They are apparently about Woolf's mental > health, but I'm curious as to why Wilberforce was sharing that info > with Robins (it appears they were close), so there's a complex history > here, it appears. > > Any info welcome! > > Thank you-- > Ellen > > J. Ellen Gainor > > Professor, Department of Performing and Media Arts > > Cornell University > 430 College Avenue > > Ithaca, NY? 14850 > > jeg11 at cornell.edu > > > > > -- > Shilo R. McGiff, PhD > Virginia Woolf & Ecologies II > > The Woolf Salon Project > > Ithaca, NY 14850 > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!XQoi6on5kOL1u5-w7xW2EFoPuw_mbod6PEVG19t4VC6zic_lqf0PJ7IqJkwmKu1jiDknZMjFpiTUgDswkp_T5CaqQw$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mph7 at cornell.edu Mon Jul 24 19:18:53 2023 From: mph7 at cornell.edu (Molly Patricia Hite) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 23:18:53 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Octavia Wilberforce's letters? In-Reply-To: <3338f49b-3d44-ee96-67bd-0224906286ea@northwestern.edu> References: <3338f49b-3d44-ee96-67bd-0224906286ea@northwestern.edu> Message-ID: Also, see my book Woolf?s Ambiguities: Tonal Modernism, Narrative Strategy, Feminist Precursors (Cornell UP, 2017), which places Woolf?s literary theories and practice in contrast with Robins?s and treats on several levels Woolf?s personal relationships with Robins and Wilberforce. ?Molly Hite Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2023, at 3:11 PM, Christine Froula via Vwoolf wrote: ? Ellen and all, see the Appendix to Herbert Marder's biography The Measure of Life--you'll find your questions answered, I think; Christine On 7/24/2023 1:?54 PM, Shilo McGiff via Vwoolf wrote: Hi, All, I'm forwarding a research question from Ellen and all, see the Appendix to Herbert Marder's biography The Measure of Life--you'll find your questions answered, I think; Christine On 7/24/2023 1:54 PM, Shilo McGiff via Vwoolf wrote: Hi, All, I'm forwarding a research question from J Ellen Ganior bc I haven't the slightest inkling of an answer. Any help would be appreciated--- all best, Shilo ------ Hi Shilo?For some work I'm doing on actress/playwright Elizabeth Hi, All, I'm forwarding a research question from J Ellen Ganior bc I haven't the slightest inkling of an answer. Any help would be appreciated--- all best, Shilo ------ Hi Shilo?For some work I'm doing on actress/playwright Elizabeth Robins, I've run across some references to letters sent to Robins by Dr. Octavia Wilberforce, very possibly about Woolf that, according to Jane Marcus (1978), were not yet allowed to be published. Do you know if they are now available? They are apparently about Woolf's mental health, but I'm curious as to why Wilberforce was sharing that info with Robins (it appears they were close), so there's a complex history here, it appears. Any info welcome! Thank you-- Ellen J. Ellen Gainor Professor, Department of Performing and Media Arts Cornell University 430 College Avenue Ithaca, NY 14850 jeg11 at cornell.edu -- Shilo R. McGiff, PhD Virginia Woolf & Ecologies II The Woolf Salon Project Ithaca, NY 14850 _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!XQoi6on5kOL1u5-w7xW2EFoPuw_mbod6PEVG19t4VC6zic_lqf0PJ7IqJkwmKu1jiDknZMjFpiTUgDswkp_T5CaqQw$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jul 25 06:53:54 2023 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 10:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] Shakespeare in Bloomsbury--Google Alert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <500579950.6710697.1690282434315@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Vara. Sorry, just caught up. Looks as though we have to wait until 28 November in the UK, although Blackwell's and Waterstones (and Amazon, of course) are allowing pre-order. Blackwell's for ?22, the other two for ?25. Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Wednesday, 19 July 2023 at 17:43:14 BST, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: Greetings, Yale University Press will publish Marjorie Garber's new book Shakespeare in Bloomsbury (see the link below) in September. https:?//yalebooks.?yale.?edu/book/9780300267563/shakespeare-in-bloomsbury/ Cheers, Vara p.?s. My apologies if Greetings,? Yale University Press will publish Marjorie Garber's new book Shakespeare in Bloomsbury(see the link below) in September. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300267563/shakespeare-in-bloomsbury/__;!!KGKeukY!3GIy-jCgMpM-P_qbUGaGTC6DH2CAX-uUNdUebPRLk6og1_miAJzKin90uQfc22NzEe6JbOATacHjUZmaLV4qOZQI$ Cheers,Varap.s. My apologies if anyone has already shared this information. Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From srm10 at cornell.edu Tue Jul 25 10:30:40 2023 From: srm10 at cornell.edu (Shilo McGiff) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 10:30:40 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Octavia Wilberforce's letters? In-Reply-To: References: <3338f49b-3d44-ee96-67bd-0224906286ea@northwestern.edu> Message-ID: Thank you, Stuart, Vara, Christine, and Molly. I've passed along your recommendations to Ellen. Much appreciated! Shilo On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 7:20?PM Molly Patricia Hite via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Also, see my book Woolf?s Ambiguities: Tonal Modernism, Narrative > Strategy, Feminist Precursors (Cornell UP, 2017), which places Woolf?s > literary theories and practice in contrast with Robins?s and treats on > several levels Woolf?s personal > Also, see my book Woolf?s Ambiguities: Tonal Modernism, Narrative > Strategy, Feminist Precursors (Cornell UP, 2017), which places Woolf?s > literary theories and practice in contrast with Robins?s and treats on > several levels Woolf?s personal relationships with Robins and Wilberforce. > > ?Molly Hite > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 24, 2023, at 3:11 PM, Christine Froula via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > ? > Ellen and all, see the Appendix to Herbert Marder's biography The Measure > of Life--you'll find your questions answered, I think; Christine On > 7/24/2023 1: 54 PM, Shilo McGiff via Vwoolf wrote: Hi, All, I'm forwarding > a research question from > > Ellen and all, see the Appendix to Herbert Marder's biography The Measure > of Life--you'll find your questions answered, I think; > > Christine > On 7/24/2023 1:54 PM, Shilo McGiff via Vwoolf wrote: > > Hi, All, I'm forwarding a research question from J Ellen Ganior bc I > haven't the slightest inkling of an answer. Any help would be > appreciated--- all best, Shilo ------ Hi Shilo?For some work I'm doing on > actress/playwright Elizabeth > Hi, All, > > I'm forwarding a research question from J Ellen Ganior bc I haven't the > slightest inkling of an answer. Any help would be appreciated--- > > all best, > Shilo > > ------ > > > Hi Shilo?For some work I'm doing on actress/playwright Elizabeth Robins, > I've run across some references to letters sent to Robins by Dr. Octavia > Wilberforce, very possibly about Woolf that, according to Jane Marcus > (1978), were not yet allowed to be published. Do you know if they are now > available? They are apparently about Woolf's mental health, but I'm curious > as to why Wilberforce was sharing that info with Robins (it appears they > were close), so there's a complex history here, it appears. > > Any info welcome! > > Thank you-- > Ellen > > J. Ellen Gainor > > Professor, Department of Performing and Media Arts > > Cornell University > 430 College Avenue > > Ithaca, NY 14850 > > jeg11 at cornell.edu > > > > -- > Shilo R. McGiff, PhD > Virginia Woolf & Ecologies II > > The Woolf Salon Project > > Ithaca, NY 14850 > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing listVwoolf at lists.osu.eduhttps://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!XQoi6on5kOL1u5-w7xW2EFoPuw_mbod6PEVG19t4VC6zic_lqf0PJ7IqJkwmKu1jiDknZMjFpiTUgDswkp_T5CaqQw$ > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -- Shilo R. 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I am the executor of a Miss Robins who was a famous actress and writer. She left an enormous quantity of papers, letters, &c (sic) which were in the hands of a co-executor, a Dr Wilberforce, who was gradually going through the stuff. Dr Wilberforce died about two months ago and all the material has had to come to me here. I am now going through it and it takes up a lot of time. " Best wishes Anne Emerita Professor of Political Science and Sociology An tOllamh Emerita, Eola?ocht Pholaiti?il agus Socheola?ocht School of Political Science and Sociology, College of Arts, Social Sciences and Celtic Studies, University of Galway, IRELAND. email/r?omphost: Anne.Byrne at universityofgalway.ie Publication: "The Pleasure of Letters: Dear Mrs Nolan, Yours Sincerely, Leonard Woolf", Virginia Woolf Bulletin, Issue 73, May 2023, 8-20. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Shilo McGiff via Vwoolf Sent: 25 July 2023 15:30 To: Molly Patricia Hite Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Octavia Wilberforce's letters? EXTERNAL EMAIL: This email originated outside the University of Galway. Do not open attachments or click on links unless you believe the content is safe. R?OMHPHOST SEACHTRACH: N?or th?inig an r?omhphost seo ? Ollscoil na Gaillimhe. N? hoscail ceangalt?in agus n? clice?il ar naisc mura gcreideann t? go bhfuil an t-?bhar s?bh?ilte. Thank you, Stuart, Vara, Christine, and Molly. I've passed along your recommendations to Ellen. Much appreciated! Shilo On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 7:?20 PM Molly Patricia Hite via Vwoolf wrote: Also, see my book Thank you, Stuart, Vara, Christine, and Molly. I've passed along your recommendations to Ellen. Much appreciated! Shilo On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 7:20?PM Molly Patricia Hite via Vwoolf > wrote: Also, see my book Woolf?s Ambiguities: Tonal Modernism, Narrative Strategy, Feminist Precursors (Cornell UP, 2017), which places Woolf?s literary theories and practice in contrast with Robins?s and treats on several levels Woolf?s personal Also, see my book Woolf?s Ambiguities: Tonal Modernism, Narrative Strategy, Feminist Precursors (Cornell UP, 2017), which places Woolf?s literary theories and practice in contrast with Robins?s and treats on several levels Woolf?s personal relationships with Robins and Wilberforce. ?Molly Hite Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2023, at 3:11 PM, Christine Froula via Vwoolf > wrote: ? Ellen and all, see the Appendix to Herbert Marder's biography The Measure of Life--you'll find your questions answered, I think; Christine On 7/24/2023 1:?54 PM, Shilo McGiff via Vwoolf wrote: Hi, All, I'm forwarding a research question from Ellen and all, see the Appendix to Herbert Marder's biography The Measure of Life--you'll find your questions answered, I think; Christine On 7/24/2023 1:54 PM, Shilo McGiff via Vwoolf wrote: Hi, All, I'm forwarding a research question from J Ellen Ganior bc I haven't the slightest inkling of an answer. Any help would be appreciated--- all best, Shilo ------ Hi Shilo?For some work I'm doing on actress/playwright Elizabeth Hi, All, I'm forwarding a research question from J Ellen Ganior bc I haven't the slightest inkling of an answer. Any help would be appreciated--- all best, Shilo ------ Hi Shilo?For some work I'm doing on actress/playwright Elizabeth Robins, I've run across some references to letters sent to Robins by Dr. Octavia Wilberforce, very possibly about Woolf that, according to Jane Marcus (1978), were not yet allowed to be published. Do you know if they are now available? They are apparently about Woolf's mental health, but I'm curious as to why Wilberforce was sharing that info with Robins (it appears they were close), so there's a complex history here, it appears. Any info welcome! Thank you-- Ellen J. Ellen Gainor Professor, Department of Performing and Media Arts Cornell University 430 College Avenue Ithaca, NY 14850 jeg11 at cornell.edu -- Shilo R. McGiff, PhD Virginia Woolf & Ecologies II The Woolf Salon Project Ithaca, NY 14850 _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!XQoi6on5kOL1u5-w7xW2EFoPuw_mbod6PEVG19t4VC6zic_lqf0PJ7IqJkwmKu1jiDknZMjFpiTUgDswkp_T5CaqQw$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -- Shilo R. McGiff, PhD Virginia Woolf & Ecologies II The Woolf Salon Project Ithaca, NY 14850 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you haven?t already, consider registering: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.eventbrite.com/e/virginia-woolf-ruhun-gelgitlerine-direnen-falez-hande-kocak-tickets-680535428787?aff=oddtdtcreator__;!!KGKeukY!whOgjaZbLKSpwe1kvy9-25QUDXGoFr14s1wBjs9ecONxIh1FVxP3sFEjo6G21iq399JLXTdSCaKKSPiB48YMyiGx_87uyw$ We look forward to seeing many of you online. Sincerely, VWST Hande Ko?ak (Cimito?lu) (1982, Erzurum): ?lk ve orta ??renimini Erzurum'da tamamlad?. ?stanbul ?niversitesi Siyasal Bilgiler Fak?ltesi Kamu Y?netimi B?l?m?'nden lisans, ?stanbul Bilgi ?niversitesi Kar??la?t?rmal? Edebiyat B?l?m?'nden y?ksek lisans derecesi ald?. ?stanbul ?niversitesi Yeni T?rk Edebiyat? B?l?m?'nde doktora tez ?al??malar?na devam etmektedir. Ele?tiri, inceleme, tan?t?m, ?yk?, deneme t?r?ndeki yaz?lar? Varl?k, Kitap-l?k, Psikeart, Karag?z Edebiyat vb. dergilerde yay?mland?. Virginia Woolf, Slyvia Plath, Vivien Leigh, Frederic Chopin ?zerine yarat?c?l?k ve psikiyatrik hastal?klar aras?ndaki ili?kileri inceleyen belgeseller (Bir Abdi ?brahim ?la? San. A. ?. projesi kapsam?nda) yazd?. Thomas Piketty, Northrop Frye, S. T. Coleridge gibi yazarlar ba?ta olmak ?zere, edebiyat teorisi, ?iir ve ekonomi tarihi alan?ndan (Frans?zca, ?ngilizce) eserler ?evirdi. ?? K?lt?r Yay?nlar? Hasan ?li Y?cel Klasikler Dizisi'nde edit?rl?k yapt?. Eserleri: Uyanmadan ?nce Gezegen (anlat?, 2014, YKY) ve Seyelan (?iir, 2021, K?rm?z? Kedi). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Virginia Woolf Society Turkey" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to virginia-woolf-society-turkey-+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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In-Reply-To: References: <3338f49b-3d44-ee96-67bd-0224906286ea@northwestern.edu> Message-ID: Thank you, Anne. Thank you, Jean. I've passed along your suggestions. This from Ellen: Dear Woolf Colleagues?Many thanks to all of you who so kindly offered suggestions on the Robins/Wilberforce/Woolf connections. I now have the information I need for my own research on Robins. I very much appreciate everyone's assistance! J Ellen Gainor Thanks for all your help-- SRM On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 4:55?AM Byrne, Anne (Soc & Pol) < anne.byrne at universityofgalway.ie> wrote: > Dear Shilo > > In a letter dated 16/2/64 (unpublished) to Nancy Nolan, Leonard Woolf > mentions the following which may be of interest to Ellen. > > "I am however extremely busy over what is really a tiresome business. I am > the executor of a Miss Robins who was a famous actress and writer. She > left an enormous quantity of papers, letters, &c (sic) which were in the > hands of a co-executor, a Dr Wilberforce, who was gradually going through > the stuff. Dr Wilberforce died about two months ago and all the material > has had to come to me here. I am now going through it and it takes up a lot > of time. " > > > Best wishes > > Anne > > > Emerita Professor of Political Science and Sociology > > An tOllamh Emerita, Eola?ocht Pholaiti?il agus Socheola?ocht > > School of Political Science and Sociology, College of Arts, Social > Sciences and Celtic Studies, University of Galway, IRELAND. > > > email/r?omphost: Anne.Byrne at universityofgalway.ie > > > Publication: "The Pleasure of Letters: Dear Mrs Nolan, Yours Sincerely, > Leonard Woolf", *Virginia Woolf Bulletin*, Issue 73, May 2023, 8-20. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf on behalf of Shilo McGiff > via Vwoolf > *Sent:* 25 July 2023 15:30 > *To:* Molly Patricia Hite > *Cc:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Octavia Wilberforce's letters? > > *EXTERNAL EMAIL:* This email originated outside the University of Galway. > Do not open attachments or click on links unless you believe the content is > safe. > *R?OMHPHOST SEACHTRACH:* N?or th?inig an r?omhphost seo ? Ollscoil na > Gaillimhe. N? hoscail ceangalt?in agus n? clice?il ar naisc mura gcreideann > t? go bhfuil an t-?bhar s?bh?ilte. > > Thank you, Stuart, Vara, Christine, and Molly. I've passed along your > recommendations to Ellen. Much appreciated! Shilo On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at > 7: 20 PM Molly Patricia Hite via Vwoolf wrote: > Also, see my book > Thank you, Stuart, Vara, Christine, and Molly. I've passed along your > recommendations to Ellen. > Much appreciated! > > Shilo > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 7:20?PM Molly Patricia Hite via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > Also, see my book Woolf?s Ambiguities: Tonal Modernism, Narrative > Strategy, Feminist Precursors (Cornell UP, 2017), which places Woolf?s > literary theories and practice in contrast with Robins?s and treats on > several levels Woolf?s personal > Also, see my book Woolf?s Ambiguities: Tonal Modernism, Narrative > Strategy, Feminist Precursors (Cornell UP, 2017), which places Woolf?s > literary theories and practice in contrast with Robins?s and treats on > several levels Woolf?s personal relationships with Robins and Wilberforce. > > ?Molly Hite > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 24, 2023, at 3:11 PM, Christine Froula via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > ? > Ellen and all, see the Appendix to Herbert Marder's biography The Measure > of Life--you'll find your questions answered, I think; Christine On > 7/24/2023 1: 54 PM, Shilo McGiff via Vwoolf wrote: Hi, All, I'm forwarding > a research question from > > Ellen and all, see the Appendix to Herbert Marder's biography The Measure > of Life--you'll find your questions answered, I think; > > Christine > On 7/24/2023 1:54 PM, Shilo McGiff via Vwoolf wrote: > > Hi, All, I'm forwarding a research question from J Ellen Ganior bc I > haven't the slightest inkling of an answer. Any help would be > appreciated--- all best, Shilo ------ Hi Shilo?For some work I'm doing on > actress/playwright Elizabeth > Hi, All, > > I'm forwarding a research question from J Ellen Ganior bc I haven't the > slightest inkling of an answer. Any help would be appreciated--- > > all best, > Shilo > > ------ > > > Hi Shilo?For some work I'm doing on actress/playwright Elizabeth Robins, > I've run across some references to letters sent to Robins by Dr. Octavia > Wilberforce, very possibly about Woolf that, according to Jane Marcus > (1978), were not yet allowed to be published. Do you know if they are now > available? They are apparently about Woolf's mental health, but I'm curious > as to why Wilberforce was sharing that info with Robins (it appears they > were close), so there's a complex history here, it appears. > > Any info welcome! > > Thank you-- > Ellen > > J. Ellen Gainor > > Professor, Department of Performing and Media Arts > > Cornell University > 430 College Avenue > > Ithaca, NY 14850 > > jeg11 at cornell.edu > > > > -- > Shilo R. McGiff, PhD > Virginia Woolf & Ecologies II > > The Woolf Salon Project > > Ithaca, NY 14850 > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing listVwoolf at lists.osu.eduhttps://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!XQoi6on5kOL1u5-w7xW2EFoPuw_mbod6PEVG19t4VC6zic_lqf0PJ7IqJkwmKu1jiDknZMjFpiTUgDswkp_T5CaqQw$ > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > > > -- > Shilo R. McGiff, PhD > Virginia Woolf & Ecologies II > > The Woolf Salon Project > > Ithaca, NY 14850 > > -- Shilo R. McGiff, PhD Virginia Woolf & Ecologies II The Woolf Salon Project Ithaca, NY 14850 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From srm10 at cornell.edu Thu Jul 27 12:44:41 2023 From: srm10 at cornell.edu (Shilo McGiff) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 12:44:41 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] IVWS Fall Symposium In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, All, Just a reminder that we are still accepting abstracts for Woolf & Ecologies II until Monday, July 31st! Woolf & Ecologies II (October 20-22, 2023) will extend the 32nd Annual Conference theme and will be fully online. Derek Ryan will deliver the symposium?s plenary address. Send those abstracts our way! All best, Shilo, Laci, and Ben On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 12:41?PM Shilo McGiff wrote: > Dear Woolfians, > > As many of you may already know, the International Virginia Woolf Society > will be hosting a virtual symposium later this year in conjunction with its > annual Fall Lecture and in collaboration with the organizers of the 2023 > Woolf Conference that took place in Fort Myers, FL in early June. > > The *Fall Symposium (October 20-22, 2023)* will extend the 32nd Annual > Conference theme, Woolf & Ecologies. We are pleased to announce that Derek > Ryan will deliver the 2023 IVWS Fall Lecture, which will double as the > symposium?s plenary address. > > *You can find more information and the current Cfp here:* Woolf & > Ecologies II > . > > > Please share with anyone you think may be interested. > > We look forward to reading your abstracts, to seeing many of you who were > not able to travel to Fort Myers this year, to continuing many of the > conversations already in progress, and to starting new ones! > > More specific information about Symposium registration and participation > will be available closer to the event. > > > Please send inquiries to Laci Mattison, Ben Hagen, and Shilo McGiff at > woolfecologies at gmail.com. > > All best, > > Shilo > -- > Shilo R. McGiff, PhD > Virginia Woolf & Ecologies II > > The Woolf Salon Project > > Ithaca, NY 14850 > > -- Shilo R. 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Professor Corrigan had this, among other, things, to say about the Barbie doll as she described how Barbie was different from the baby dolls that preceded her: "But Barbie could fend for herself. Like Nancy Drew, she drove her own roadster and lived in her own dream house ? Virginia Woolf's room of one's own painted in pastels. Barbie didn't teach girls to be of service; she taught us the giddy pleasures of a seeming autonomy ? "seeming" because Barbie's autonomy, which the film hilariously depicts in its opening version of "Barbie Land," is limited to the gender norms of pre-second wave feminism, encased in pink bubble wrap." A pastel Malibu dream house of her own.... Mark Scott Common Reader From mhussey at verizon.net Sat Jul 29 12:38:31 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2023 12:38:31 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Barbie's dream house (of her own) In-Reply-To: <51221C382E5940ABA8335677ED2D3765@MarksPC> References: <51221C382E5940ABA8335677ED2D3765@MarksPC> Message-ID: <00ab01d9c23b$1c6fac80$554f0580$@verizon.net> !-------------------------------------------------------------------| This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. |-------------------------------------------------------------------! Thanks for this, Mark. " Professor of the Practice in Literary Criticism" is fascinating too! -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Mark Scott via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 8:53 PM To: vwoolf at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Barbie's dream house (of her own) I was listening to our local National Public Radio station a couple of days ago and happened to hear a review of the Barbie movie from NPR's Fresh Air book critic, Maureen Corrigan, Professor of the Practice in Literary Criticism at Georgetown University. Professor Corrigan had this, among other, things, to say about the Barbie doll as she described how Barbie was different from the baby dolls that preceded her: "But Barbie could fend for herself. Like Nancy Drew, she drove her own roadster and lived in her own dream house ? Virginia Woolf's room of one's own painted in pastels. Barbie didn't teach girls to be of service; she taught us the giddy pleasures of a seeming autonomy ? "seeming" because Barbie's autonomy, which the film hilariously depicts in its opening version of "Barbie Land," is limited to the gender norms of pre-second wave feminism, encased in pink bubble wrap." A pastel Malibu dream house of her own.... Mark Scott Common Reader _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf From anastasiasf at gmail.com Sun Jul 30 20:45:21 2023 From: anastasiasf at gmail.com (Anastasia H) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 17:45:21 -0700 Subject: [Vwoolf] Barbie's dream house (of her own) In-Reply-To: <51221C382E5940ABA8335677ED2D3765@MarksPC> References: <51221C382E5940ABA8335677ED2D3765@MarksPC> Message-ID: Having had a Barbie Dream House as a child, I think it would be terrific?a three storey house with a large kitchen, elevator, and pool of my own! On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 5:53?PM Mark Scott via Vwoolf wrote: > I was listening to our local National Public Radio station a couple of > days > ago and happened to hear a review of the Barbie movie from NPR's Fresh Air > book critic, Maureen Corrigan, Professor of the Practice in Literary > Criticism at Georgetown University. Professor Corrigan had this, among > other, things, to say about the Barbie doll as she described how Barbie > was > different from the baby dolls that preceded her: > > "But Barbie could fend for herself. Like Nancy Drew, she drove her own > roadster and lived in her own dream house ? Virginia Woolf's room of one's > own painted in pastels. Barbie didn't teach girls to be of service; she > taught us the giddy pleasures of a seeming autonomy ? "seeming" because > Barbie's autonomy, which the film hilariously depicts in its opening > version > of "Barbie Land," is limited to the gender norms of pre-second wave > feminism, encased in pink bubble wrap." > > A pastel Malibu dream house of her own.... > > Mark Scott > Common Reader > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mc at clarior.net Mon Jul 31 11:38:46 2023 From: mc at clarior.net (Marie Claire Boisset) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 17:38:46 +0200 Subject: [Vwoolf] VW's Ulysses In-Reply-To: <001701d9c3c3$db9144f0$92b3ced0$@verizon.net> References: <001701d9c3c3$db9144f0$92b3ced0$.ref@verizon.net> <001701d9c3c3$db9144f0$92b3ced0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: By the same (un)related token, please may I ask if anyone knows what happened to Woolf's copy/copies of Proust (*La Recherche du Temps Perdu* & More - in French (and/or in English)? Thank you. ?? Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 5:30?PM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: > Apologies if I am overlooking something obvious, but does anyone know what > happened to Woolf?s copy of Ulysses (3 August 1922 ?I am horribly in debt > for Joyce & Proust? and has read 200 pages by 16 August). It is not listed > > Apologies if I am overlooking something obvious, but does anyone know what > happened to Woolf?s copy of Ulysses (3 August 1922 ?I am horribly in debt > for Joyce & Proust? and has read 200 pages by 16 August). 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URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Mon Jul 31 13:03:46 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:03:46 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] VW's Ulysses In-Reply-To: References: <001701d9c3c3$db9144f0$92b3ced0$.ref@verizon.net> <001701d9c3c3$db9144f0$92b3ced0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <004d01d9c3d0$f8b69730$ea23c590$@verizon.net> Marie-Claire, many are in the Woolfs? library at Pullman (Washington State University), all French editions From: Marie Claire Boisset Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 11:39 AM To: mhussey at verizon.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] VW's Ulysses By the same (un)related token, please may I ask if anyone knows what happened to Woolf's copy/copies of Proust (La Recherche du Temps Perdu & More - in French (and/or in English)? Thank you. ?? Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 5:30?PM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: Apologies if I am overlooking something obvious, but does anyone know what happened to Woolf?s copy of Ulysses (3 August 1922 ?I am horribly in debt for Joyce & Proust? and has read 200 pages by 16 August). It is not listed Apologies if I am overlooking something obvious, but does anyone know what happened to Woolf?s copy of Ulysses (3 August 1922 ?I am horribly in debt for Joyce & Proust? and has read 200 pages by 16 August). 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Hall) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 17:25:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] VW's Ulysses In-Reply-To: <004d01d9c3d0$f8b69730$ea23c590$@verizon.net> References: <001701d9c3c3$db9144f0$92b3ced0$.ref@verizon.net> <001701d9c3c3$db9144f0$92b3ced0$@verizon.net> <004d01d9c3d0$f8b69730$ea23c590$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <934135573.32706.1690824342371@mail.yahoo.com> Marie-Claire, Just to add to Mark's info: This is what is listed in the short-title catalogue by Julia King and Laila Miletic-Vejzovic (https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://ntserver1.wsulibs.wsu.edu/MASC/OnlineBooks/woolflibrary/woolflibraryonline.htm__;!!KGKeukY!2rgODHpY1QuAyMA9Z8w6oUskqAx5A2YoEUPjvLWR54aipFbdwTz1bxcGXZ9cXQSt8CIkRdLIj5615YmbgoMZWFnO$ ). Proust, Marcel. A l?ombre des jeunes filles en fleurs. A la recherche du temps perdu, vol. 2. Paris: Nouvelle revue fran?aise, 1919-20. 2 vols. _____. Albertine disparue. A la recherche du temps perdu, vol. VII. Paris: Gallimard; Nouvelle revue fran?aise, 1925. 2 vols. 4 copies. _____. Le c?t? de Guermantes (Sodome et Gomorrhe I). 2. ?d. Paris: Nouvelle revue fran?aise, 1920-21. 2 vols. VW?binder, annotation. _____. Du c?t? de chez Swann. 19. ?d. A la recherche du temps perdu, vol. I. Paris: Nouvelle revue fran?aise, 1919. 2 vols. _____. Du c?t? de chez Swann. 79. ?d. A la recherche du temps perdu, vol. I. Paris: Nouvelle revue fran?aise, 1926. 2 vols. Vol. 2 only. Julian Bell?signer. _____. Du c?t? de chez Swann. 122. ?d. A la recherche du temps perdu, vol. I. Paris: Gallimard: Editions de la Nouvelle revue fran?aise, 1929. 2 vols. Vol. 1 only. _____. La prissonni?re (Sodome et Gomorrhe III). A la recherche du temps perdu, vol. VI. Paris: Nouvelle revue fran?aise, 1923. 2 vols. VW?binder. _____. Sodome et Gomorrhe II. A la recherche du temps perdu, vol. V. Paris: Nouvelle revue fran?aise, 1922. 3 vols. VW?binder. _____. Le temps retrouv?. A la recherche du temps perdu, vol. VIII. Paris: Nouvelle revue fran?aise, 1927. 2 vols. 2 copies. VW?binder. Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Monday, 31 July 2023 at 18:04:06 BST, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: Marie-Claire, many are in the Woolfs? library at Pullman (Washington State University), all French editions From: Marie Claire Boisset Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 11:?39 AM To: mhussey@?verizon.?netCc: vwoolf@?lists.?osu.?eduSubject:? Marie-Claire, many are in the Woolfs? library at Pullman (Washington State University), all French editions ? From: Marie Claire Boisset Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 11:39 AM To: mhussey at verizon.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] VW's Ulysses ? By the same (un)related token, please may I ask if anyone knows what happened to Woolf's copy/copies of Proust (La Recherche du Temps Perdu & More - in French (and/or in English)? Thank you.??? ? ? | | | | | Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie? Translations | | | | | | | | Address??Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France.? | ? | Phone??+33 (0)5 55 88 29 61? | ? | Mobile?? +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21? | ? | Email??MC at Clarior.net? | ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? | | | | | | | ? | | IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof.? | ? | | | Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. | | | ? ? On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 5:30?PM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: Apologies if I am overlooking something obvious, but does anyone know what happened to Woolf?s copy of Ulysses (3 August 1922 ?I am horribly in debt for Joyce & Proust? and has read 200 pages by 16 August). It is not listed Apologies if I am overlooking something obvious, but does anyone know what happened to Woolf?s copy of Ulysses (3 August 1922 ?I am horribly in debt for Joyce & Proust? and has read 200 pages by 16 August). It is not listed in the (print) catalogue of the Woolf library at Pullman. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Stuart ------ Original Message ------ From: "Mark Hussey via Vwoolf" To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Sent: Monday, 31 Jul, 2023 At 16:29 Subject: [Vwoolf] VW's Ulysses Apologies if I am overlooking something obvious, but does anyone know what happened to Woolf?s copy of Ulysses (3 August 1922 ?I am horribly in debt for Joyce & Proust? and has read 200 pages by 16 August). It is not listed Apologies if I am overlooking something obvious, but does anyone know what happened to Woolf?s copy of Ulysses (3 August 1922 ?I am horribly in debt for Joyce & Proust? and has read 200 pages by 16 August). It is not listed in the (print) catalogue of the Woolf library at Pullman. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My note to myself: 12/2/11: Listed in U of Texas online Catalog, but not noted as being from the Woolfs' Library. Stuart ------ Original Message ------ From: "Mark Hussey via Vwoolf" > To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Sent: Monday, 31 Jul, 2023 At 16:29 Subject: [Vwoolf] VW's Ulysses Apologies if I am overlooking something obvious, but does anyone know what happened to Woolf?s copy of Ulysses (3 August 1922 ?I am horribly in debt for Joyce & Proust? and has read 200 pages by 16 August). It is not listed Apologies if I am overlooking something obvious, but does anyone know what happened to Woolf?s copy of Ulysses (3 August 1922 ?I am horribly in debt for Joyce & Proust? and has read 200 pages by 16 August). It is not listed in the (print) catalogue of the Woolf library at Pullman. _____ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Mon Jul 31 15:20:13 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 15:20:13 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo In-Reply-To: <035201d9b24e$ec5866f0$c50934d0$@btinternet.com> References: <035201d9b24e$ec5866f0$c50934d0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <000901d9c3e4$08ad3870$1a07a950$@verizon.net> In case this is a ?live? issue still? see VW to Vanessa, May 13 1921 ?The Daily Mail says that Leonard has written one of the greatest stories of the world [Pearls and Swine]. In consequence we are flooded with orders, and were photographed this morning for the Sphere?as an advertisement merely? From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 6:20 AM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo Thanks Stuart . . . O dear, my memory is not what it was! ? Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:?40 AMTo: vwoolf@?lists.?osu.?eduSubject:? Thanks Stuart . . . O dear, my memory is not what it was! ? Stephen From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:40 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost 3 years since we discussed it. Stuart From: Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:06 AM To: 'Alice Staveley' ; danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Gretchen Gerzina' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via VwoolfSent:? I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:00 AM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Gretchen Gerzina > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and was amazed to discover that it actually happened, the shots accompanying an article about Leonard and Virginia as cutting edge publishers). I can dig out the reference for you ? just email and we can sleuth together! I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point). Best wishes Alice On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf > wrote: That's excellent advice, Gretchen. And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%3e" >, "mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%20%3cmailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%3e" >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ > ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ > | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From danelljones at bresnan.net Mon Jul 31 16:54:35 2023 From: danelljones at bresnan.net (danelljones at bresnan.net) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 14:54:35 -0600 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo In-Reply-To: <000901d9c3e4$08ad3870$1a07a950$@verizon.net> References: <035201d9b24e$ec5866f0$c50934d0$@btinternet.com> <000901d9c3e4$08ad3870$1a07a950$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <03b401d9c3f1$37fbbe00$a7f33a00$@bresnan.net> Thank you so much, Mark, for the diary entry about The Sphere photograph! Wonderful. Danell From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 1:20 PM To: sbarkway at btinternet.com; 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo In case this is a ?live? issue still? see VW to Vanessa, May 13 1921 ?The Daily Mail says that Leonard has written one of the greatest stories of the world [Pearls and Swine]. In consequence we are flooded with orders, and were photographed In case this is a ?live? issue still? see VW to Vanessa, May 13 1921 ?The Daily Mail says that Leonard has written one of the greatest stories of the world [Pearls and Swine]. In consequence we are flooded with orders, and were photographed this morning for the Sphere?as an advertisement merely? From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 6:20 AM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' >; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo Thanks Stuart . . . O dear, my memory is not what it was! ? Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:?40 AMTo: vwoolf@?lists.?osu.?eduSubject:? Thanks Stuart . . . O dear, my memory is not what it was! ? Stephen From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:40 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the ?Sphere? on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 ? and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It?s almost 3 years since we discussed it. Stuart From: Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:06 AM To: 'Alice Staveley' ; danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Gretchen Gerzina' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via VwoolfSent:? I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can?t at the moment, say why or when, I?m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:00 AM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Gretchen Gerzina > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up ? I?m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I?m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and was amazed to discover that it actually happened, the shots accompanying an article about Leonard and Virginia as cutting edge publishers). I can dig out the reference for you ? just email and we can sleuth together! I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point). Best wishes Alice On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf > wrote: That's excellent advice, Gretchen. And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket. The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University. Danell -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo Danell, In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try. Gretchen ? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Hussey > To: "mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%3e" >, "mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%20%3cmailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%3e" >, "Neverow, Vara S." > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes!? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: You mean "trespass at once"? Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net >; Neverow, Vara S. > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,? On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. > wrote: Hi Mark, Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ > ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image.... | | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf | | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com | Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu >; danelljones at bresnan.net > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3 - Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT - Publisher:?TimeLife - Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only - Provider:?LIFE - Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280 - Credits:?Mansell - Copyright:?? Time Inc. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$ > | | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com | I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.? Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the ? Hi All, ? I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime. ? Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared. ? Thanks! ? Danell ? P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI. ? ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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