From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Sun Apr 2 14:27:38 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2023 18:27:38 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Odds and ends from Google Alerts.... 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Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of ?? via Vwoolf Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 1:45 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] About Salman Rushdie's 1982 article Dear all, Greetings. I am doing research on postcolonial novels. I wonder if you could help me find Rushdie's article "The Empire Writes Back with a Vengeance"? It was published by The Times on 3 July, 1982. Best, Chen ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Dear all, Greetings. I am doing research on postcolonial novels. I wonder if you could help me find Rushdie's article "The Empire Writes Back with a Vengeance"? It was published by The Times on 3 July, 1982. Best, Chen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Apr 3 12:18:36 2023 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2023 16:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?_A_Day_with_Mich=C3=A8le_Barrett_=28invitation?= =?utf-8?q?=29?= In-Reply-To: <5908087261844461.WA.Clara.joneskcl.ac.uk@www.jiscmail.ac.uk> References: <5908087261844461.WA.Clara.joneskcl.ac.uk@www.jiscmail.ac.uk> Message-ID: <283959187.7040044.1680538716270@mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded at her request by Clara Jones at King's College London. It's an in-person celebratory event in honour of Professor Mich?le Barrett on her retirement from Queen Mary, University of London. It's not being recorded, so times are BST (London time), but if you're in or near London, you might like to atttend. Woolf scholars and enthusiasts are welcome! Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety ----- Forwarded message ----- From: Clara Jones <000024c47eade3c8-dmarc-request at jiscmail.ac.uk>To: "bams at jiscmail.ac.uk" Sent: Monday, 3 April 2023 at 15:48:56 BSTSubject: [BAMS] A Day with Mich?le Barrett You are warmly invited to 'A Day with Mich?le Barrett' on Friday 19 May at Queen Mary, University of London. This event brings together a range of scholars to reflect on Professor Barrett's pioneering interdisciplinary research and celebrate her major contributions to literary studies, feminist theory and the history of the First World War. The event will include the launch of WoolfNotes, a ground-breaking project led by Prof. Barrett to digitise Virginia Woolf?s extensive reading and research notes. Talks will be followed by a reception. Contributors include: Nadia Atia Rachel Bowlby Gilly Furse Roberta Hamilton Russell Hay Ann Rosalind Jones Clara Jones Cora Kaplan David Lammy Donna Landry Gerald Maclean David McDonald David Olusoga Anne Phillips Ellen Ross Brenda Silver Anna Snaith Peter Stallybrass Victoria Walker Time: 09.30- 19.00 Location: Peston Lecture Theatre, Graduate Centre https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.qmul.ac.uk/study/explore-our-campuses/mile-end/graduate-centre/__;!!KGKeukY!3wIJOrfwk-WPg8MndL8Is4huk9aXBIml6ZmdU_4ZTM1-XKOqEy5vkC-dK-PldS3NeW2w-ms5GNODPoi7dZi1y1pE$ Please register your attendance on Eventbrite: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-day-with-michele-barrett-tickets-596990303067?aff=ebdssbdestsearch__;!!KGKeukY!3wIJOrfwk-WPg8MndL8Is4huk9aXBIml6ZmdU_4ZTM1-XKOqEy5vkC-dK-PldS3NeW2w-ms5GNODPoi7daLsA9pC$ We very much look forward to seeing you there. All good wishes, Clara Jones and Nadia Atia Dr Clara Jones?| Senior Lecturer in Modern LiteratureDepartment of English?|?King's College London?Virginia Woolf Building |?22 Kingsway |?London WC2B 6NR+44 (0)20 7848 1375??|?Office VWB 7.32Office Hours: Online Thurs 4-5 pm?Book here!, In person Fri 12.30-1.30 pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Benjamin.Hagen at usd.edu Mon Apr 3 15:14:20 2023 From: Benjamin.Hagen at usd.edu (Hagen, Benjamin D) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2023 19:14:20 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] IVWS Donation Drive: Suzanne Bellamy Travel Fund Message-ID: Dear all, Last year, members of the International Virginia Woolf Society voted to establish the Suzanne Bellamy Travel Fund to support the travel of presenters to Annual Conferences on Virginia Woolf. Learn more about the late, beloved Suzanne Bellamy and the travel fund here: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://v-woolf-society.com/suzanne-bellamy-travel-fund/__;!!KGKeukY!3Uhac2jxb0HDmBi7-7T-2utxVyGh8Vd29i-D1amF-QzIIGW8MeVfcPiypP-QFRfjGifyAZP7uBZGaO7NutSfm9h_y_BrQg$ . (Please read through the information carefully!) Donation: For the fund to accomplish its purpose, we need donations, so consider the IVWS in Donation Drive mode! The Society has pledged to match up to $1500 in donations to the fund, but we hope everyone who is able to will donate something to this initiative. The math is simple: the more donations we receive, the more we can support travelers in need. Please follow the link above to learn more about how to donate to the Suzanne Bellamy Travel Fund via PayPal. Application: For those seeking to apply for support to travel to the 32nd Annual International Conference on Virginia Woolf, you?ll find the link to the Application Form on the site linked to above. The Application Form will open at 8:00am on Monday, April 10th and close at 8:00am on Friday, April 14th. We hope to send out initial award notifications by April 24th. Let me know if you have any questions! Best, Ben Hagen IVWS President ? Benjamin D. Hagen, Ph.D. (he/him/his) Associate Professor | Dept of English University of South Dakota | Dakota Hall 204 ? I acknowledge that the University of South Dakota is on indigenous territory. This land is the traditional territory of Dakota, Lakota, Umonhon, Ponca, Otoe, and Ioway nations. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Thu Apr 6 15:17:46 2023 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 15:17:46 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] more online inventiveness References: <006501d968bc$78f45880$6add0980$.ref@verizon.net> Message-ID: <006501d968bc$78f45880$6add0980$@verizon.net> From https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thebubble.org.uk/culture/literature/living-in-squares-loving-in-__;!!KGKeukY!xAJFKa4lURaLgInEeAkIIFh5I0DP86wLzc6EFRo7sqVZh935EQYCjhJIu7o_aIJwbdEJ9OlCRn80OQCVHKaagw$ triangles-the-literary-legacy-of-the-bloomsbury-group/#comment-2698 we learn that Vanessa Bell was "openly bisexual" "pursuing relationships with other women from within her open marriage to art critic Clive Bell". News to me! Making sh*t up seems to be quite the occupation these days. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Thu Apr 6 15:32:01 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 19:32:01 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] more online inventiveness In-Reply-To: <006501d968bc$78f45880$6add0980$@verizon.net> References: <006501d968bc$78f45880$6add0980$.ref@verizon.net> <006501d968bc$78f45880$6add0980$@verizon.net> Message-ID: A parallel universe of fantasies!! Didn't you know that Clive Bell had a long-term threesome with Duncan Grant and Lytton Strachey? Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 3:17 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] more online inventiveness >From https:?//www.?thebubble.?org.?uk/culture/literature/living-in-squares-loving-in-triangles-the-literary-legacy-of-the-bloomsbury-group/#comment-2698 we learn that Vanessa Bell was ?openly bisexual? ?pursuing relationships >From https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thebubble.org.uk/culture/literature/living-in-squares-loving-in-triangles-the-literary-legacy-of-the-bloomsbury-group/*comment-2698__;Iw!!KGKeukY!wsh8tmWrFKc5ZS1Rbd_TLgLQTxt71vtXySuQ22S6cb1W6M8r1URIgNE0k7l-J__vYGStpR5MboE-BWh8aQWlsvSpkWCF$ we learn that Vanessa Bell was ?openly bisexual? ?pursuing relationships with other women from within her open marriage to art critic Clive Bell?. 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Zoom is a publicly traded company headquartered in San Jose, CA. clemson.zoom.us Meeting ID: 958 3082 6472 Passcode: 905863 One tap mobile +12532050468,,95830826472#,,,,*905863# US +12532158782,,95830826472#,,,,*905863# US (Tacoma) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From demetkarabulut62 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 13 09:00:35 2023 From: demetkarabulut62 at hotmail.com (Demet Karabulut) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:00:35 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Abstracts due: 31 May 2023: Woolf and Women in Turkey Message-ID: Dear colleagues, I am pleased to share the CFP for the edited collection about Woolf and Women in Turkey. You are warmly invited to send abstracts. Details are below. Best wishes, Demet *** CFP Book Title: Modernist Continuities: Virginia Woolf and Women in Turkey Editor: Dr Demet Karabulut Dede Throughout her writing life, Virginia Woolf was hugely preoccupied with the role of women in history and in the history of literature. She philosophized about women?s rights, articulated women?s voice, and examined women?s literary history. She crossed many boundaries that were unthinkable in her time, blended different worlds, and transported and expanded consciousness in her narrative. While she was crossing geographical and temporal boundaries in her literature, Virginia Woolf?s appeal has also transcended boundaries. Her literature has inspired many writers in Turkey who trespassed and defied boundaries, in which process they found their own ways for themselves. Her work and thoughts are celebrated in Turkey in many ways and it is a matter of great pleasure that all of her novels and most of her nonfictional works have been translated into Turkish, and she is read more widely and has a growing presence in Turkey. The scholarship is also rising up to acknowledge her influence on literary traditions in Turkey. This edited collection invites proposals for chapters of previously unpublished and original work to be included in Modernist Continuities: Virginia Woolf and Women in Turkey. It welcomes papers that engage with Virginia Woolf?s reception by women writers in Turkey, literary networks built between Woolf?s works and works by women writers in Turkey, and her influence on the women?s movement. The book will form a picture of how Woolf?s writing has served as an inspiration for women in Turkey. Possible topics include, but are not limited to: * Virginia Woolf?s comments on or about Turkey; * Bloomsbury Group?s connection to Turkey; * Woolf?s legacy in women?s literature in Turkey. Of particular interest might be, * Halide Edip Ad?var, * Tomris Uyar, * Sevgi Soysal, * Leyla Erbil, * Tezer ?zl?, * Erendiz Atas?, * Nilg?n Marmara, * Mina Urgan, * The influence of Virginia Woolf?s writing on women?s movement in Turkey, * Translations of Virginia Woolf?s works. Submissions from scholars of all backgrounds and levels of experience exploring Virginia Woolf?s connection to women writers and women?s movement in Turkey are encouraged. Particularly welcome are interdisciplinary contributions aiming at investigating Woolf?s influence on different aspects of literary, political, and cultural life in Turkey. Please submit a short bio and a 500-word abstract by 31 May 2023. Full drafts between 7000 -9000 words (including notes and bibliography) written in MLA format will be due in 31 August 2023. The collection is due to be published in 2024, and we have received positive interest for publication from Bloomsbury Publishing. Abstracts and queries should be directed to virginiawoolfandwomeninturkey at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peteradkins349 at gmail.com Thu Apr 13 09:06:09 2023 From: peteradkins349 at gmail.com (Peter Adkins) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 14:06:09 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Woolf=E2=80=99s_good_food_guide?= Message-ID: Making my way through my backlog of *TLS *issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): *Woolf?s good food guide* Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that she wasn?t very interested. 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From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that she wasn?t very interested. 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Read about: "the vastest most delicious meal I have ever eaten..." (L3:534) and "a first rate dinner thought out and presided over by a graceful young chef..." (D4:317). On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:51?AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: > Epic snark! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of > Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9: 06 AM To: VWOOLF > listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] > Woolf?s good food guide > > Epic snark! > > > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *Peter Adkins > via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:06 AM > *To:* VWOOLF listserv > *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide > > > > Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following > letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians > on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good > food guide Reviewing > > Making my way through my backlog of *TLS *issues, I thought the following > letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians > on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): > > > > *Woolf?s good food guide* > Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda > Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own > contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and > one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. > The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not > have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at > Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with > ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived > on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the > meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact > extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, > perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any > case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The > fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, > and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf > hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that > she wasn?t very interested. > > Martin Dodsworth > Brill, Buckinghamshire > > > > > > *Dr Peter Adkins * > > (He/Him/His) > > > > *Website: peteradkins.net > * > > *Twitter: *@peteradkins17 > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -- *Alice Lowe* *https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.aliceloweblogs.wordpress.com__;!!KGKeukY!w5VCZfOPsB2DkUj8rdgZZxQ8-g3sykJeySXINVyYhb-Nw0qfBYPamJQcByf-0rIoBgkVJfCq07af5aItfAc8OLfUDlIxNaaCwdRy$ * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Thu Apr 13 13:30:06 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 17:30:06 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Woolf=E2=80=99s_good_food_guide?= In-Reply-To: <004201d96e17$6052e9d0$20f8bd70$@verizon.net> References: <004201d96e17$6052e9d0$20f8bd70$@verizon.net> Message-ID: One would think that the chef in the men's college would be in rather deep trouble if the flour was not properly measured in the preparation of the white cream over the sole. But the upside of this peculiar rant was the urge to read a review of that book. It was a joy to read Felicity Cloake's commentary on Diane Purkiss?s English Food: A People's History in the Guardian. Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 10:51 AM To: 'Peter Adkins' ; 'VWOOLF listserv' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Epic snark! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:?06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Epic snark! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that she wasn?t very interested. Martin Dodsworth Brill, Buckinghamshire Dr Peter Adkins (He/Him/His) Website: peteradkins.net Twitter: @peteradkins17 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mc at clarior.net Thu Apr 13 13:46:10 2023 From: mc at clarior.net (Marie Claire Boisset) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 19:46:10 +0200 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Woolf=E2=80=99s_good_food_guide?= In-Reply-To: References: <004201d96e17$6052e9d0$20f8bd70$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Alice: I'll have to read this piece too. One of my favorites on this topic is "*One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well*." (ROO). Remember noticing that when the Wolves visited our area in Corr?ze (Brive (!), Uzerche, etc., in SW France (now "Nouvelle Aquitaine") in the 30s - noted in D somewhere), she argued with Leonard on the quality of the p?t? in comparison with the pub's at Rodmell. If I remember correctly she preferred our local specialty recipe (I won't say anything about foie gras, etc. - shhht!), whilst L defended Rodmell pub's. Of course she was absolutely right and Leonard totally wrong, aha aha! ? Hope you enjoyed a good Easter - Happy Spring to all of you ? Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:17?PM Alice Lowe via Vwoolf wrote: > My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that > year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia > Woolf's Life and Work. " From numerous passages in her letters and diaries > as > > My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that > year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia > Woolf's Life and Work." From numerous passages in her letters and diaries > as well as her novels, there is little doubt she relished & appreciated > good food. Traveling in France with Vita, she describes the food in several > letters to Leonard as well as in her diary. Read about: "the vastest most > delicious meal I have ever eaten..." (L3:534) and "a first rate dinner > thought out and presided over by a graceful young chef..." (D4:317). > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:51?AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > >> Epic snark! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of >> Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9: 06 AM To: VWOOLF >> listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] >> Woolf?s good food guide >> >> Epic snark! >> >> >> >> *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *Peter >> Adkins via Vwoolf >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:06 AM >> *To:* VWOOLF listserv >> *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide >> >> >> >> Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following >> letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians >> on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good >> food guide Reviewing >> >> Making my way through my backlog of *TLS *issues, I thought the >> following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to >> Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): >> >> >> >> *Woolf?s good food guide* >> Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda >> Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own >> contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and >> one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. >> The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not >> have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at >> Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with >> ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived >> on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the >> meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact >> extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, >> perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any >> case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The >> fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, >> and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf >> hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that >> she wasn?t very interested. >> >> Martin Dodsworth >> Brill, Buckinghamshire >> >> >> >> >> >> *Dr Peter Adkins * >> >> (He/Him/His) >> >> >> >> *Website: peteradkins.net >> * >> >> *Twitter: *@peteradkins17 >> _______________________________________________ >> Vwoolf mailing list >> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >> > > > -- > *Alice Lowe* > *https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.aliceloweblogs.wordpress.com__;!!KGKeukY!y0OlsIs9kj6WldAu5kkX4_keLb0Odjr59q5F1Bir3v9NyyAcOj02wSCK89Mle41orc8eejPNsQk-gM_MSqUPFMD3xw$ * > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Marie Claire Boisset Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:46 PM To: Alice Lowe Cc: mhussey at verizon.net; VWOOLF listserv Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Alice: I'll have to read this piece too. One of my favorites on this topic is "One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well." (ROO). Remember noticing that when the Wolves visited our area in Corr?ze (Brive (!), Uzerche, etc., in SW France (now "Nouvelle Aquitaine") in the 30s - noted in D somewhere), she argued with Leonard on the quality of the p?t? in comparison with the pub's at Rodmell. If I remember correctly she preferred our local specialty recipe (I won't say anything about foie gras, etc. - shhht!), whilst L defended Rodmell pub's. Of course she was absolutely right and Leonard totally wrong, aha aha! ? Hope you enjoyed a good Easter - Happy Spring to all of you ? Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:17?PM Alice Lowe via Vwoolf > wrote: My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia Woolf's Life and Work.?" From numerous passages in her letters and diaries as My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia Woolf's Life and Work." From numerous passages in her letters and diaries as well as her novels, there is little doubt she relished & appreciated good food. Traveling in France with Vita, she describes the food in several letters to Leonard as well as in her diary. Read about: "the vastest most delicious meal I have ever eaten..." (L3:534) and "a first rate dinner thought out and presided over by a graceful young chef..." (D4:317). On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:51?AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: Epic snark! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:?06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Epic snark! From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv > Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that she wasn?t very interested. 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URL: From mc at clarior.net Thu Apr 13 15:23:41 2023 From: mc at clarior.net (Marie Claire Boisset) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 21:23:41 +0200 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Woolf=E2=80=99s_good_food_guide?= In-Reply-To: <008f01d96e35$37be7110$a73b5330$@verizon.net> References: <004201d96e17$6052e9d0$20f8bd70$@verizon.net> <008f01d96e35$37be7110$a73b5330$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 8:24?PM wrote: > Marie-Claire?s ref to Leonard reminded me that he was gently mocked by > Clive Bell and Raymond Mortimer in an exchange in the NS&N about the > relative merits of English hotel food vs. French ? Clive wrote: > > ?On my French tours never have I had a companion, no matter how patriotic > or ascetic, who did not look forward with unconcealed, indeed with loudly > expressed, pleasure to lunch. I have never known, nor ever heard of, > anyone, except Mr. Woolf, who looked forward to lunch in an English inn.? > > > > *From:* Marie Claire Boisset > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:46 PM > *To:* Alice Lowe > *Cc:* mhussey at verizon.net; VWOOLF listserv < > vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide > > > > Alice: > > > > I'll have to read this piece too. One of my favorites on this topic is "*One > cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well*." > (ROO). > > > > Remember noticing that when the Wolves visited our area in Corr?ze (Brive > (!), Uzerche, etc., in SW France (now "Nouvelle Aquitaine") in the 30s - > noted in D somewhere), she argued with Leonard on the quality of the p?t? > > in comparison with the pub's at Rodmell. If I remember correctly she > preferred our local specialty recipe (I won't say anything about foie gras, > etc. - shhht!), whilst L defended Rodmell pub's. > > Of course she was absolutely right and Leonard totally wrong, aha aha! ? > > > > Hope you enjoyed a good Easter - Happy Spring to all of you ? > > > > > > > > *Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie* > Translations > > > > > *Address * Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. > > > > *Phone * +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> > > > > *Mobile * +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> > > > > *Email * MC at Clarior.net > > > > > > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you > have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately > and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. > > > > Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this > e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:17?PM Alice Lowe via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that > year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia > Woolf's Life and Work. " From numerous passages in her letters and diaries > as > > > > My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that > year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia > Woolf's Life and Work." From numerous passages in her letters and diaries > as well as her novels, there is little doubt she relished & appreciated > good food. Traveling in France with Vita, she describes the food in several > letters to Leonard as well as in her diary. Read about: "the vastest most > delicious meal I have ever eaten..." (L3:534) and "a first rate dinner > thought out and presided over by a graceful young chef..." (D4:317). > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:51?AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > Epic snark! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of > Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9: 06 AM To: VWOOLF > listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] > Woolf?s good food guide > > Epic snark! > > > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *Peter Adkins > via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:06 AM > *To:* VWOOLF listserv > *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide > > > > Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following > letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians > on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good > food guide Reviewing > > Making my way through my backlog of *TLS *issues, I thought the following > letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians > on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): > > > > *Woolf?s good food guide* > Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda > Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own > contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and > one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. > The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not > have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at > Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with > ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived > on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the > meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact > extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, > perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any > case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The > fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, > and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf > hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that > she wasn?t very interested. > > Martin Dodsworth > Brill, Buckinghamshire > > > > > > *Dr Peter Adkins * > > (He/Him/His) > > > > *Website: peteradkins.net > * > > *Twitter: *@peteradkins17 > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > > > > -- > > *Alice Lowe* > > *https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.aliceloweblogs.wordpress.com__;!!KGKeukY!wHxyPusEda6vnnFo-PfSmij3r3pgNO3Y_7tJzXja6YX0uZsyquaPiLSqGn0SdINZ6uDBekBifiuAcKv0NbzZGH5Uzw$ * > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 8:24?PM > wrote: Marie-Claire?s ref to Leonard reminded me that he was gently mocked by Clive Bell and Raymond Mortimer in an exchange in the NS&N about the relative merits of English hotel food vs. French ? Clive wrote: ?On my French tours never have I had a companion, no matter how patriotic or ascetic, who did not look forward with unconcealed, indeed with loudly expressed, pleasure to lunch. I have never known, nor ever heard of, anyone, except Mr. Woolf, who looked forward to lunch in an English inn.? From: Marie Claire Boisset > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:46 PM To: Alice Lowe > Cc: mhussey at verizon.net ; VWOOLF listserv > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Alice: I'll have to read this piece too. One of my favorites on this topic is "One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well." (ROO). Remember noticing that when the Wolves visited our area in Corr?ze (Brive (!), Uzerche, etc., in SW France (now "Nouvelle Aquitaine") in the 30s - noted in D somewhere), she argued with Leonard on the quality of the p?t? in comparison with the pub's at Rodmell. If I remember correctly she preferred our local specialty recipe (I won't say anything about foie gras, etc. - shhht!), whilst L defended Rodmell pub's. Of course she was absolutely right and Leonard totally wrong, aha aha! ? Hope you enjoyed a good Easter - Happy Spring to all of you ? Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:17?PM Alice Lowe via Vwoolf > wrote: My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia Woolf's Life and Work.?" From numerous passages in her letters and diaries as My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia Woolf's Life and Work." From numerous passages in her letters and diaries as well as her novels, there is little doubt she relished & appreciated good food. Traveling in France with Vita, she describes the food in several letters to Leonard as well as in her diary. Read about: "the vastest most delicious meal I have ever eaten..." (L3:534) and "a first rate dinner thought out and presided over by a graceful young chef..." (D4:317). On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:51?AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: Epic snark! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:?06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Epic snark! From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv > Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that she wasn?t very interested. Martin Dodsworth Brill, Buckinghamshire Dr Peter Adkins (He/Him/His) Website: peteradkins.net Twitter: @peteradkins17 _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -- Alice Lowe https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.aliceloweblogs.wordpress.com__;!!KGKeukY!04zNOAe3YhIsvzgfOcjDugqiWIgE6YjAtJBiKycVxXWObuhDFTnaa7gxbkN_T7_pL_wWnc8SCuh0b_P0GnSumvBbwZ8tMeY2ohptmw$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mc at clarior.net Thu Apr 13 16:42:54 2023 From: mc at clarior.net (Marie Claire Boisset) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 22:42:54 +0200 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Woolf=E2=80=99s_good_food_guide?= In-Reply-To: <020c01d96e44$e7bcec90$b736c5b0$@bresnan.net> References: <004201d96e17$6052e9d0$20f8bd70$@verizon.net> <008f01d96e35$37be7110$a73b5330$@verizon.net> <020c01d96e44$e7bcec90$b736c5b0$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: Thank you for saying that. A reply with a brief "Me too!" is not possible, though (ahah again ;)) but yes, I have enjoyed this too. Pity no time to write, talk & meet further. Once upon a time I had made a micro point (w/o pins or needles!) about the "haddock and sausage" phrase in the penultimate pages of D (Feb. 7, 1941) too, actually. Thereby agreeing with Alice, apparently. "*Haddock and sausage meat. I think it is true that one gains a certain hold on haddock and sausage meat by writing them down. (...) * *Oh Dear yes, I shall conquer this mood. (...) Now to cook haddock*." So much for an ethereal, frail Virginia. Not so fragile. One who loved p?t?s, mushroom hunting & picking on the Downs and home-made omelettes, & protein-packed sustenance. Bon app?tit - or happy reading! Back to my translation now. Thank you! :-) [image: image.png] mc Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 10:17?PM wrote: > Just have to say how much I have enjoyed this conversation. > > > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *Marie Claire > Boisset via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:24 PM > *To:* mhussey at verizon.net > *Cc:* VWOOLF listserv > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide > > > > Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) Marie-Claire > Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, > Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 > 83 73 21 Email MC@ Clarior. net IMPORTANT: > > Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) > > > > *Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie* > Translations > > > > > *Address * Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. > > > > *Phone * +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> > > > > *Mobile * +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> > > > > *Email * MC at Clarior.net > > > > > > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you > have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately > and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. > > > > Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this > e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 8:24?PM wrote: > > Marie-Claire?s ref to Leonard reminded me that he was gently mocked by > Clive Bell and Raymond Mortimer in an exchange in the NS&N about the > relative merits of English hotel food vs. French ? Clive wrote: > > ?On my French tours never have I had a companion, no matter how patriotic > or ascetic, who did not look forward with unconcealed, indeed with loudly > expressed, pleasure to lunch. I have never known, nor ever heard of, > anyone, except Mr. Woolf, who looked forward to lunch in an English inn.? > > > > *From:* Marie Claire Boisset > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:46 PM > *To:* Alice Lowe > *Cc:* mhussey at verizon.net; VWOOLF listserv < > vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide > > > > Alice: > > > > I'll have to read this piece too. One of my favorites on this topic is "*One > cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well*." > (ROO). > > > > Remember noticing that when the Wolves visited our area in Corr?ze (Brive > (!), Uzerche, etc., in SW France (now "Nouvelle Aquitaine") in the 30s - > noted in D somewhere), she argued with Leonard on the quality of the p?t? > > in comparison with the pub's at Rodmell. If I remember correctly she > preferred our local specialty recipe (I won't say anything about foie gras, > etc. - shhht!), whilst L defended Rodmell pub's. > > Of course she was absolutely right and Leonard totally wrong, aha aha! ? > > > > Hope you enjoyed a good Easter - Happy Spring to all of you ? > > > > > > > > *Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie* > Translations > > > > > *Address * Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. > > > > *Phone * +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> > > > > *Mobile * +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> > > > > *Email * MC at Clarior.net > > > > > > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you > have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately > and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. > > > > Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this > e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:17?PM Alice Lowe via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that > year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia > Woolf's Life and Work. " From numerous passages in her letters and diaries > as > > > > My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that > year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia > Woolf's Life and Work." From numerous passages in her letters and diaries > as well as her novels, there is little doubt she relished & appreciated > good food. Traveling in France with Vita, she describes the food in several > letters to Leonard as well as in her diary. Read about: "the vastest most > delicious meal I have ever eaten..." (L3:534) and "a first rate dinner > thought out and presided over by a graceful young chef..." (D4:317). > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:51?AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > Epic snark! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of > Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9: 06 AM To: VWOOLF > listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] > Woolf?s good food guide > > Epic snark! > > > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *Peter Adkins > via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:06 AM > *To:* VWOOLF listserv > *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide > > > > Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following > letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians > on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good > food guide Reviewing > > Making my way through my backlog of *TLS *issues, I thought the following > letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians > on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): > > > > *Woolf?s good food guide* > Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda > Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own > contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and > one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. > The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not > have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at > Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with > ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived > on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the > meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact > extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, > perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any > case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The > fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, > and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf > hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that > she wasn?t very interested. > > Martin Dodsworth > Brill, Buckinghamshire > > > > > > *Dr Peter Adkins * > > (He/Him/His) > > > > *Website: peteradkins.net > * > > *Twitter: *@peteradkins17 > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > > > > -- > > *Alice Lowe* > > *https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.aliceloweblogs.wordpress.com__;!!KGKeukY!2KLC_oQHNSsqyfvG8eKnaBSMSD0-yMPld81ZBx_F44dt6uwXT5aFpQVpSwV333exFrC45AfEMirOV9y_DnLU6iubKg$ * > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 3606 bytes Desc: not available URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Thu Apr 13 16:48:57 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 20:48:57 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Woolf=E2=80=99s_good_food_guide?= In-Reply-To: References: <004201d96e17$6052e9d0$20f8bd70$@verizon.net> <008f01d96e35$37be7110$a73b5330$@verizon.net> <020c01d96e44$e7bcec90$b736c5b0$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: Didn't Woolf also bake bread? I think this link about her "cottage loaf" may have been shared earlier in a VWoolf listserve conversation: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/virginia-woolf-baking-cottage-loaf__;!!KGKeukY!0JPy1Mb7sy__X9OLm4C09dM7XaNt9lQkb5J2j1gYhjlwf8ITMNVQnJPdB4V4-8HbF7bGZ4HeE9lIY8-Ea3NjlUYYbTCry62HYRk79ngS$ . Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 4:42 PM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: VWOOLF listserv Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Thank you for saying that. A reply with a brief "Me too!" is not possible, though (ahah again ;)) but yes, I have enjoyed this too. Pity no time to write, talk & meet further. Once upon a time I had made a micro point (w/o pins Thank you for saying that. A reply with a brief "Me too!" is not possible, though (ahah again ;)) but yes, I have enjoyed this too. Pity no time to write, talk & meet further. Once upon a time I had made a micro point (w/o pins or needles!) about the "haddock and sausage" phrase in the penultimate pages of D (Feb. 7, 1941) too, actually. Thereby agreeing with Alice, apparently. "Haddock and sausage meat. I think it is true that one gains a certain hold on haddock and sausage meat by writing them down. (...) Oh Dear yes, I shall conquer this mood. (...) Now to cook haddock." So much for an ethereal, frail Virginia. Not so fragile. One who loved p?t?s, mushroom hunting & picking on the Downs and home-made omelettes, & protein-packed sustenance. Bon app?tit - or happy reading! Back to my translation now. Thank you! :-) [image.png] mc Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/linkedin/0077b5/48/0.png__;!!KGKeukY!0JPy1Mb7sy__X9OLm4C09dM7XaNt9lQkb5J2j1gYhjlwf8ITMNVQnJPdB4V4-8HbF7bGZ4HeE9lIY8-Ea3NjlUYYbTCry62HYUVgXmy7$ ] Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.wisestamp.com/widgets/green_32.png__;!!KGKeukY!0JPy1Mb7sy__X9OLm4C09dM7XaNt9lQkb5J2j1gYhjlwf8ITMNVQnJPdB4V4-8HbF7bGZ4HeE9lIY8-Ea3NjlUYYbTCry62HYX_qDhdn$ ] Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 10:17?PM > wrote: Just have to say how much I have enjoyed this conversation. From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:24 PM To: mhussey at verizon.net Cc: VWOOLF listserv > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC@?Clarior.?net IMPORTANT:? Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/linkedin/0077b5/48/0.png__;!!KGKeukY!0JPy1Mb7sy__X9OLm4C09dM7XaNt9lQkb5J2j1gYhjlwf8ITMNVQnJPdB4V4-8HbF7bGZ4HeE9lIY8-Ea3NjlUYYbTCry62HYUVgXmy7$ ] Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.wisestamp.com/widgets/green_32.png__;!!KGKeukY!0JPy1Mb7sy__X9OLm4C09dM7XaNt9lQkb5J2j1gYhjlwf8ITMNVQnJPdB4V4-8HbF7bGZ4HeE9lIY8-Ea3NjlUYYbTCry62HYX_qDhdn$ ] Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 8:24?PM > wrote: Marie-Claire?s ref to Leonard reminded me that he was gently mocked by Clive Bell and Raymond Mortimer in an exchange in the NS&N about the relative merits of English hotel food vs. French ? Clive wrote: ?On my French tours never have I had a companion, no matter how patriotic or ascetic, who did not look forward with unconcealed, indeed with loudly expressed, pleasure to lunch. I have never known, nor ever heard of, anyone, except Mr. Woolf, who looked forward to lunch in an English inn.? From: Marie Claire Boisset > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:46 PM To: Alice Lowe > Cc: mhussey at verizon.net; VWOOLF listserv > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Alice: I'll have to read this piece too. One of my favorites on this topic is "One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well." (ROO). Remember noticing that when the Wolves visited our area in Corr?ze (Brive (!), Uzerche, etc., in SW France (now "Nouvelle Aquitaine") in the 30s - noted in D somewhere), she argued with Leonard on the quality of the p?t? in comparison with the pub's at Rodmell. If I remember correctly she preferred our local specialty recipe (I won't say anything about foie gras, etc. - shhht!), whilst L defended Rodmell pub's. Of course she was absolutely right and Leonard totally wrong, aha aha! ? Hope you enjoyed a good Easter - Happy Spring to all of you ? Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/linkedin/0077b5/48/0.png__;!!KGKeukY!0JPy1Mb7sy__X9OLm4C09dM7XaNt9lQkb5J2j1gYhjlwf8ITMNVQnJPdB4V4-8HbF7bGZ4HeE9lIY8-Ea3NjlUYYbTCry62HYUVgXmy7$ ] Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.wisestamp.com/widgets/green_32.png__;!!KGKeukY!0JPy1Mb7sy__X9OLm4C09dM7XaNt9lQkb5J2j1gYhjlwf8ITMNVQnJPdB4V4-8HbF7bGZ4HeE9lIY8-Ea3NjlUYYbTCry62HYX_qDhdn$ ] Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:17?PM Alice Lowe via Vwoolf > wrote: My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia Woolf's Life and Work.?" From numerous passages in her letters and diaries as My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia Woolf's Life and Work." From numerous passages in her letters and diaries as well as her novels, there is little doubt she relished & appreciated good food. Traveling in France with Vita, she describes the food in several letters to Leonard as well as in her diary. Read about: "the vastest most delicious meal I have ever eaten..." (L3:534) and "a first rate dinner thought out and presided over by a graceful young chef..." (D4:317). On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:51?AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: Epic snark! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:?06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Epic snark! From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv > Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that she wasn?t very interested. Martin Dodsworth Brill, Buckinghamshire Dr Peter Adkins (He/Him/His) Website: peteradkins.net Twitter: @peteradkins17 _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -- Alice Lowe https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.aliceloweblogs.wordpress.com__;!!KGKeukY!0JPy1Mb7sy__X9OLm4C09dM7XaNt9lQkb5J2j1gYhjlwf8ITMNVQnJPdB4V4-8HbF7bGZ4HeE9lIY8-Ea3NjlUYYbTCry62HYax-OvQQ$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 10:49?PM Neverow, Vara S. wrote: > Didn't Woolf also bake bread? I think this link about her "cottage loaf" > may have been shared earlier in a VWoolf listserve conversation: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/virginia-woolf-baking-cottage-loaf__;!!KGKeukY!wSEutusNyZnPJGEullSbwtsENw4mTy_eOYzYVbJTPCNCFWLToTX0MS64Mt_IHrUuRjfqOoOcoY064nfplZ1GT3iztg$ . > > Vara Neverow > (she/her/hers) > Professor, English Department > Editor, *Virginia Woolf Miscellany* > Southern Connecticut State University > New Haven, CT 06515 > 203-392-6717 > neverowv1 at southernct.edu > > *I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on > traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the > Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. * > > > *Recent Publications:* > > Lead editor, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources *(Bloomsbury, > 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume > One, 1975-1984, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources* (Bloomsbury, > 2020); Co-editor, *The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and > Contemporary Global Literature* (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, > Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf on behalf of Marie Claire > Boisset via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 4:42 PM > *To:* danelljones at bresnan.net > *Cc:* VWOOLF listserv > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide > > Thank you for saying that. A reply with a brief "Me too!" is not possible, > though (ahah again ;)) but yes, I have enjoyed this too. Pity no time to > write, talk & meet further. Once upon a time I had made a micro point (w/o > pins > Thank you for saying that. A reply with a brief "Me too!" is not possible, > though (ahah again ;)) but yes, I have enjoyed this too. Pity no time to > write, talk & meet further. > > Once upon a time I had made a micro point (w/o pins or needles!) about the > "haddock and sausage" phrase in the penultimate pages of D (Feb. 7, 1941) > too, actually. > Thereby agreeing with Alice, apparently. > > "*Haddock and sausage meat. I think it is true that one gains a certain > hold on haddock and sausage meat by writing them down. (...) * > *Oh Dear yes, I shall conquer this mood. (...) Now to cook haddock*." > > So much for an ethereal, frail Virginia. Not so fragile. One who loved > p?t?s, mushroom hunting & picking on the Downs and home-made omelettes, > & protein-packed sustenance. > > Bon app?tit - or happy reading! > Back to my translation now. > > Thank you! :-) > > [image: image.png] > > mc > > Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie > Translations > > > Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. > Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> > Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> > Email MC at Clarior.net > > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you > have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately > and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. > Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this > e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 10:17?PM wrote: > > Just have to say how much I have enjoyed this conversation. > > > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *Marie Claire > Boisset via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:24 PM > *To:* mhussey at verizon.net > *Cc:* VWOOLF listserv > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide > > > > Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) Marie-Claire > Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, > Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 > 83 73 21 Email MC@ Clarior. net IMPORTANT: > > Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) > > > > *Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie* > Translations > > > > > *Address * Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. > > > > *Phone * +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> > > > > *Mobile * +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> > > > > *Email * MC at Clarior.net > > > > > > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you > have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately > and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. > > > > Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this > e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 8:24?PM wrote: > > Marie-Claire?s ref to Leonard reminded me that he was gently mocked by > Clive Bell and Raymond Mortimer in an exchange in the NS&N about the > relative merits of English hotel food vs. French ? Clive wrote: > > ?On my French tours never have I had a companion, no matter how patriotic > or ascetic, who did not look forward with unconcealed, indeed with loudly > expressed, pleasure to lunch. I have never known, nor ever heard of, > anyone, except Mr. Woolf, who looked forward to lunch in an English inn.? > > > > *From:* Marie Claire Boisset > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:46 PM > *To:* Alice Lowe > *Cc:* mhussey at verizon.net; VWOOLF listserv < > vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide > > > > Alice: > > > > I'll have to read this piece too. One of my favorites on this topic is "*One > cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well*." > (ROO). > > > > Remember noticing that when the Wolves visited our area in Corr?ze (Brive > (!), Uzerche, etc., in SW France (now "Nouvelle Aquitaine") in the 30s - > noted in D somewhere), she argued with Leonard on the quality of the p?t? > > in comparison with the pub's at Rodmell. If I remember correctly she > preferred our local specialty recipe (I won't say anything about foie gras, > etc. - shhht!), whilst L defended Rodmell pub's. > > Of course she was absolutely right and Leonard totally wrong, aha aha! ? > > > > Hope you enjoyed a good Easter - Happy Spring to all of you ? > > > > > > > > *Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie* > Translations > > > > > *Address * Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. > > > > *Phone * +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> > > > > *Mobile * +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> > > > > *Email * MC at Clarior.net > > > > > > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you > have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately > and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. > > > > Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this > e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:17?PM Alice Lowe via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that > year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia > Woolf's Life and Work. " From numerous passages in her letters and diaries > as > > > > My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that > year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia > Woolf's Life and Work." From numerous passages in her letters and diaries > as well as her novels, there is little doubt she relished & appreciated > good food. Traveling in France with Vita, she describes the food in several > letters to Leonard as well as in her diary. Read about: "the vastest most > delicious meal I have ever eaten..." (L3:534) and "a first rate dinner > thought out and presided over by a graceful young chef..." (D4:317). > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:51?AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > Epic snark! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of > Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9: 06 AM To: VWOOLF > listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] > Woolf?s good food guide > > Epic snark! > > > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *Peter Adkins > via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:06 AM > *To:* VWOOLF listserv > *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide > > > > Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following > letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians > on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good > food guide Reviewing > > Making my way through my backlog of * TLS *issues, I thought the > following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to > Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): > > > > *Woolf?s good food guide* > Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda > Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own > contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and > one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. > The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not > have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at > Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with > ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived > on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the > meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact > extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, > perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any > case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The > fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, > and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf > hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that > she wasn?t very interested. > > Martin Dodsworth > Brill, Buckinghamshire > > > > > > *Dr Peter Adkins * > > (He/Him/His) > > > > *Website: peteradkins.net > * > > *Twitter: *@peteradkins17 > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > > > > -- > > *Alice Lowe* > > *https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.aliceloweblogs.wordpress.com__;!!KGKeukY!wSEutusNyZnPJGEullSbwtsENw4mTy_eOYzYVbJTPCNCFWLToTX0MS64Mt_IHrUuRjfqOoOcoY064nfplZ2ZkU6EcA$ * > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 3606 bytes Desc: not available URL: From peteradkins349 at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 04:25:22 2023 From: peteradkins349 at gmail.com (peteradkins349 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:25:22 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Woolf=E2=80=99s_good_food_guide?= In-Reply-To: References: <004201d96e17$6052e9d0$20f8bd70$@verizon.net> <008f01d96e35$37be7110$a73b5330$@verizon.net> <020c01d96e44$e7bcec90$b736c5b0$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <003901d96eaa$a8018d70$f804a850$@gmail.com> I?ve just checked David Bradshaw and Stuart N. Clarke?s Shakespeare Head Press edition of AROO and they quote from Elsie Duncan-Jones complaining that VW was an ?hour late? to dinner and that dinner ?in Clough Hall, never a repast for gourmets, suffered considerably?. I am fascinated by the idea that there was a meal prepared for her that she missed (intentionally?!) and yet the College catering becomes such a memorable part of AROO (at least for me). I love how this email thread has become such a robust response to the (irritatingly) persistent idea of an ?ethereal, frail? Virginia as Marie-Claire puts it so well. It?s a shame that I didn?t spot the letter sooner, otherwise I feel that a response to the letter would be well warranted! Peter From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:43 PM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: VWOOLF listserv Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Thank you for saying that. A reply with a brief "Me too!" is not possible, though (ahah again ;)) but yes, I have enjoyed this too. Pity no time to write, talk & meet further. Once upon a time I had made a micro point (w/o pins Thank you for saying that. A reply with a brief "Me too!" is not possible, though (ahah again ;)) but yes, I have enjoyed this too. Pity no time to write, talk & meet further. Once upon a time I had made a micro point (w/o pins or needles!) about the "haddock and sausage" phrase in the penultimate pages of D (Feb. 7, 1941) too, actually. Thereby agreeing with Alice, apparently. "Haddock and sausage meat. I think it is true that one gains a certain hold on haddock and sausage meat by writing them down. (...) Oh Dear yes, I shall conquer this mood. (...) Now to cook haddock." So much for an ethereal, frail Virginia. Not so fragile. One who loved p?t?s, mushroom hunting & picking on the Downs and home-made omelettes, & protein-packed sustenance. Bon app?tit - or happy reading! Back to my translation now. Thank you! :-) mc Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 10:17?PM > wrote: Just have to say how much I have enjoyed this conversation. From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:24 PM To: mhussey at verizon.net Cc: VWOOLF listserv > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC@?Clarior.?net IMPORTANT:? Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 8:24?PM > wrote: Marie-Claire?s ref to Leonard reminded me that he was gently mocked by Clive Bell and Raymond Mortimer in an exchange in the NS&N about the relative merits of English hotel food vs. French ? Clive wrote: ?On my French tours never have I had a companion, no matter how patriotic or ascetic, who did not look forward with unconcealed, indeed with loudly expressed, pleasure to lunch. I have never known, nor ever heard of, anyone, except Mr. Woolf, who looked forward to lunch in an English inn.? From: Marie Claire Boisset > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:46 PM To: Alice Lowe > Cc: mhussey at verizon.net ; VWOOLF listserv > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Alice: I'll have to read this piece too. One of my favorites on this topic is "One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well." (ROO). Remember noticing that when the Wolves visited our area in Corr?ze (Brive (!), Uzerche, etc., in SW France (now "Nouvelle Aquitaine") in the 30s - noted in D somewhere), she argued with Leonard on the quality of the p?t? in comparison with the pub's at Rodmell. If I remember correctly she preferred our local specialty recipe (I won't say anything about foie gras, etc. - shhht!), whilst L defended Rodmell pub's. Of course she was absolutely right and Leonard totally wrong, aha aha! ? Hope you enjoyed a good Easter - Happy Spring to all of you ? Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:17?PM Alice Lowe via Vwoolf > wrote: My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia Woolf's Life and Work.?" From numerous passages in her letters and diaries as My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia Woolf's Life and Work." From numerous passages in her letters and diaries as well as her novels, there is little doubt she relished & appreciated good food. Traveling in France with Vita, she describes the food in several letters to Leonard as well as in her diary. Read about: "the vastest most delicious meal I have ever eaten..." (L3:534) and "a first rate dinner thought out and presided over by a graceful young chef..." (D4:317). On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:51?AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: Epic snark! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:?06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Epic snark! From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv > Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that she wasn?t very interested. Martin Dodsworth Brill, Buckinghamshire Dr Peter Adkins (He/Him/His) Website: peteradkins.net Twitter: @peteradkins17 _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -- Alice Lowe https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.aliceloweblogs.wordpress.com__;!!KGKeukY!2kfPNwTSwnr3jwduQgL6SnmB1dXBD1bE4354poM7saVRFLjNiMj-lsgEeLGU0SyZmbnDSgqBRKLiQKe7xcxkXXzirhYOPE-_q-qjxUje$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 3606 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sbarkway at btinternet.com Fri Apr 14 04:32:24 2023 From: sbarkway at btinternet.com (sbarkway at btinternet.com) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:32:24 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Woolf=E2=80=99s_good_food_guide?= In-Reply-To: <003901d96eaa$a8018d70$f804a850$@gmail.com> References: <004201d96e17$6052e9d0$20f8bd70$@verizon.net> <008f01d96e35$37be7110$a73b5330$@verizon.net> <020c01d96e44$e7bcec90$b736c5b0$@bresnan.net> <003901d96eaa$a8018d70$f804a850$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000f01d96eab$a38a8ed0$ea9fac70$@btinternet.com> This is the email I sent to the TLS on 12 Jan 2023, but they didn?t publish it: In his letter regarding the contrasting meals Virginia Woolf describes in A Room of One?s Own, Martin Dodsworth considers her to have been ?purely rhetorical? (Letters, January 13). E E Duncan-Jones?s recollection of Woolf?s lateness, that he refers to, was collected by Ann Phillips in her A Newnham Anthology (Newnham College, 1979; repr. 1988). Duncan-Jones also recognised Woolf?s use of hyperbole to underscore an argument admitting that her ?purpose was, of course, to evoke pity for the poverty of the women?s colleges?. However, I feel Mr Dodsworth is wide of the mark when he goes on to suggest that Woolf probably ?wasn?t very interested? in good food. In the 1930?s she dined at Marcel Boulestin?s famous restaurant in Covent Garden, enjoying such dishes as his sole with mushroom sauce so much that she sent her cook, Mabel Haskins, to him to take lessons. Mabel ?thoroughly enjoyed? the lessons and Woolf was pleased to be ?reaping the benefits?. Stephen From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: 14 April 2023 09:25 To: 'VWOOLF listserv' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide I?ve just checked David Bradshaw and Stuart N. Clarke?s Shakespeare Head Press edition of AROO and they quote from Elsie Duncan-Jones complaining that VW was an ?hour late? to dinner and that dinner ?in Clough Hall, never a repast for gourmets, I?ve just checked David Bradshaw and Stuart N. Clarke?s Shakespeare Head Press edition of AROO and they quote from Elsie Duncan-Jones complaining that VW was an ?hour late? to dinner and that dinner ?in Clough Hall, never a repast for gourmets, suffered considerably?. I am fascinated by the idea that there was a meal prepared for her that she missed (intentionally?!) and yet the College catering becomes such a memorable part of AROO (at least for me). I love how this email thread has become such a robust response to the (irritatingly) persistent idea of an ?ethereal, frail? Virginia as Marie-Claire puts it so well. It?s a shame that I didn?t spot the letter sooner, otherwise I feel that a response to the letter would be well warranted! Peter From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:43 PM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: VWOOLF listserv Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Thank you for saying that. A reply with a brief "Me too!" is not possible, though (ahah again ;)) but yes, I have enjoyed this too. Pity no time to write, talk & meet further. Once upon a time I had made a micro point (w/o pins Thank you for saying that. A reply with a brief "Me too!" is not possible, though (ahah again ;)) but yes, I have enjoyed this too. Pity no time to write, talk & meet further. Once upon a time I had made a micro point (w/o pins or needles!) about the "haddock and sausage" phrase in the penultimate pages of D (Feb. 7, 1941) too, actually. Thereby agreeing with Alice, apparently. "Haddock and sausage meat. I think it is true that one gains a certain hold on haddock and sausage meat by writing them down. (...) Oh Dear yes, I shall conquer this mood. (...) Now to cook haddock." So much for an ethereal, frail Virginia. Not so fragile. One who loved p?t?s, mushroom hunting & picking on the Downs and home-made omelettes, & protein-packed sustenance. Bon app?tit - or happy reading! Back to my translation now. Thank you! :-) mc Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 10:17?PM < danelljones at bresnan.net> wrote: Just have to say how much I have enjoyed this conversation. From: Vwoolf < vwoolf-bounces at ls.osu.edu> On Behalf Of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:24 PM To: mhussey at verizon.net Cc: VWOOLF listserv < vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC@?Clarior.?net IMPORTANT:? Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 8:24?PM < mhussey at verizon.net> wrote: Marie-Claire?s ref to Leonard reminded me that he was gently mocked by Clive Bell and Raymond Mortimer in an exchange in the NS&N about the relative merits of English hotel food vs. French ? Clive wrote: ?On my French tours never have I had a companion, no matter how patriotic or ascetic, who did not look forward with unconcealed, indeed with loudly expressed, pleasure to lunch. I have never known, nor ever heard of, anyone, except Mr. Woolf, who looked forward to lunch in an English inn.? From: Marie Claire Boisset < mc at clarior.net> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:46 PM To: Alice Lowe < alicelowe88 at gmail.com> Cc: mhussey at verizon.net; VWOOLF listserv < vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Alice: I'll have to read this piece too. One of my favorites on this topic is "One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well." (ROO). Remember noticing that when the Wolves visited our area in Corr?ze (Brive (!), Uzerche, etc., in SW France (now "Nouvelle Aquitaine") in the 30s - noted in D somewhere), she argued with Leonard on the quality of the p?t? in comparison with the pub's at Rodmell. If I remember correctly she preferred our local specialty recipe (I won't say anything about foie gras, etc. - shhht!), whilst L defended Rodmell pub's. Of course she was absolutely right and Leonard totally wrong, aha aha! ? Hope you enjoyed a good Easter - Happy Spring to all of you ? Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:17?PM Alice Lowe via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia Woolf's Life and Work.?" From numerous passages in her letters and diaries as My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia Woolf's Life and Work." From numerous passages in her letters and diaries as well as her novels, there is little doubt she relished & appreciated good food. Traveling in France with Vita, she describes the food in several letters to Leonard as well as in her diary. Read about: "the vastest most delicious meal I have ever eaten..." (L3:534) and "a first rate dinner thought out and presided over by a graceful young chef..." (D4:317). On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:51?AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: Epic snark! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:?06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Epic snark! From: Vwoolf < vwoolf-bounces at lists.osu.edu> On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv < vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that she wasn?t very interested. Martin Dodsworth Brill, Buckinghamshire Dr Peter Adkins (He/Him/His) Website: peteradkins.net Twitter: @peteradkins17 _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -- Alice Lowe https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.aliceloweblogs.wordpress.com__;!!KGKeukY!xrbl18S1hDxWSqsQ87-PquGC4eerXwKNM2hH8IAnhpMhrI_CTE854p3_Mz9IW27_ciS_KjMnJfpd4Udm2hkERmsUMP5p_Jfrd80g$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ~WRD0000.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 823 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 3606 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mc at clarior.net Fri Apr 14 04:37:40 2023 From: mc at clarior.net (Marie Claire Boisset) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 10:37:40 +0200 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Woolf=E2=80=99s_good_food_guide?= In-Reply-To: <003901d96eaa$a8018d70$f804a850$@gmail.com> References: <004201d96e17$6052e9d0$20f8bd70$@verizon.net> <008f01d96e35$37be7110$a73b5330$@verizon.net> <020c01d96e44$e7bcec90$b736c5b0$@bresnan.net> <003901d96eaa$a8018d70$f804a850$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Peter: Thank you for your response. I missed the letter in the *TLS* too - definitely should scan it a lot better. But I do not think it is too late at all to respond to this there, and/or elsewhere. Now or later. It actually has irritated me completely all these years that VW is so misrepresented with the same "mental health, suicide, mad, frail, Virgin (again!), frail creature, etc. Again, "haddock and sausage meat" - anyone frail to cook - THAT?? Maybe a "Common Letter" could be addressed, fully informed by whoever may want/care/have time to participate. As a nobody with no name to author it myself I'm not best placed to sign, but I'd certainly be happy to help and assist (or inspire ? conspire ?!). For all this is worth. ;-) :-) Warm regards to you all, Happy Friday & Weekend All best ? BTW - saw a meet-up invite that I'd love to accept but can't (same sing-song "work, work etc." Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 10:26?AM Peter Adkins via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > I?ve just checked David Bradshaw and Stuart N. Clarke?s Shakespeare Head > Press edition of AROO and they quote from Elsie Duncan-Jones complaining > that VW was an ?hour late? to dinner and that dinner ?in Clough Hall, never > a repast for gourmets, > > I?ve just checked David Bradshaw and Stuart N. Clarke?s Shakespeare Head > Press edition of *AROO *and they quote from Elsie Duncan-Jones > complaining that VW was an ?hour late? to dinner and that dinner ?in Clough > Hall, never a repast for gourmets, suffered considerably?. I am fascinated > by the idea that there was a meal prepared for her that she missed > (intentionally?!) and yet the College catering becomes such a memorable > part of *AROO *(at least for me). > > > > I love how this email thread has become such a robust response to the > (irritatingly) persistent idea of an ?ethereal, frail? Virginia as > Marie-Claire puts it so well. It?s a shame that I didn?t spot the letter > sooner, otherwise I feel that a response to the letter would be well > warranted! > > > > Peter > > > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *Marie Claire > Boisset via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:43 PM > *To:* danelljones at bresnan.net > *Cc:* VWOOLF listserv > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide > > > > Thank you for saying that. A reply with a brief "Me too!" is not possible, > though (ahah again ;)) but yes, I have enjoyed this too. Pity no time to > write, talk & meet further. Once upon a time I had made a micro point (w/o > pins > > Thank you for saying that. A reply with a brief "Me too!" is not possible, > though (ahah again ;)) but yes, I have enjoyed this too. Pity no time to > write, talk & meet further. > > > > Once upon a time I had made a micro point (w/o pins or needles!) about the > "haddock and sausage" phrase in the penultimate pages of D (Feb. 7, 1941) > too, actually. > > Thereby agreeing with Alice, apparently. > > > > "*Haddock and sausage meat. I think it is true that one gains a certain > hold on haddock and sausage meat by writing them down. (...) * > > *Oh Dear yes, I shall conquer this mood. (...) Now to cook haddock*." > > > > So much for an ethereal, frail Virginia. Not so fragile. One who loved > p?t?s, mushroom hunting & picking on the Downs and home-made omelettes, > > & protein-packed sustenance. > > > > Bon app?tit - or happy reading! > > Back to my translation now. > > > > Thank you! :-) > > > > > > mc > > > > *Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie* > Translations > > > > > *Address * Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. > > > > *Phone * +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> > > > > *Mobile * +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> > > > > *Email * MC at Clarior.net > > > > > > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you > have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately > and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. > > > > Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this > e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 10:17?PM wrote: > > Just have to say how much I have enjoyed this conversation. > > > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *Marie Claire > Boisset via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:24 PM > *To:* mhussey at verizon.net > *Cc:* VWOOLF listserv > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide > > > > Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) Marie-Claire > Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, > Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 > 83 73 21 Email MC@ Clarior. net IMPORTANT: > > Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) > > > > *Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie* > Translations > > > > > *Address * Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. > > > > *Phone * +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> > > > > *Mobile * +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> > > > > *Email * MC at Clarior.net > > > > > > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you > have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately > and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. > > > > Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this > e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 8:24?PM wrote: > > Marie-Claire?s ref to Leonard reminded me that he was gently mocked by > Clive Bell and Raymond Mortimer in an exchange in the NS&N about the > relative merits of English hotel food vs. French ? Clive wrote: > > ?On my French tours never have I had a companion, no matter how patriotic > or ascetic, who did not look forward with unconcealed, indeed with loudly > expressed, pleasure to lunch. I have never known, nor ever heard of, > anyone, except Mr. Woolf, who looked forward to lunch in an English inn.? > > > > *From:* Marie Claire Boisset > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:46 PM > *To:* Alice Lowe > *Cc:* mhussey at verizon.net; VWOOLF listserv < > vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide > > > > Alice: > > > > I'll have to read this piece too. One of my favorites on this topic is "*One > cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well*." > (ROO). > > > > Remember noticing that when the Wolves visited our area in Corr?ze (Brive > (!), Uzerche, etc., in SW France (now "Nouvelle Aquitaine") in the 30s - > noted in D somewhere), she argued with Leonard on the quality of the p?t? > > in comparison with the pub's at Rodmell. If I remember correctly she > preferred our local specialty recipe (I won't say anything about foie gras, > etc. - shhht!), whilst L defended Rodmell pub's. > > Of course she was absolutely right and Leonard totally wrong, aha aha! ? > > > > Hope you enjoyed a good Easter - Happy Spring to all of you ? > > > > > > > > *Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie* > Translations > > > > > *Address * Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. > > > > *Phone * +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> > > > > *Mobile * +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> > > > > *Email * MC at Clarior.net > > > > > > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you > have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately > and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. > > > > Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this > e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:17?PM Alice Lowe via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that > year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia > Woolf's Life and Work. " From numerous passages in her letters and diaries > as > > > > My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that > year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia > Woolf's Life and Work." From numerous passages in her letters and diaries > as well as her novels, there is little doubt she relished & appreciated > good food. Traveling in France with Vita, she describes the food in several > letters to Leonard as well as in her diary. Read about: "the vastest most > delicious meal I have ever eaten..." (L3:534) and "a first rate dinner > thought out and presided over by a graceful young chef..." (D4:317). > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:51?AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > Epic snark! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of > Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9: 06 AM To: VWOOLF > listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] > Woolf?s good food guide > > Epic snark! > > > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *Peter Adkins > via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:06 AM > *To:* VWOOLF listserv > *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide > > > > Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following > letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians > on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good > food guide Reviewing > > Making my way through my backlog of *TLS *issues, I thought the following > letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians > on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): > > > > *Woolf?s good food guide* > Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda > Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own > contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and > one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. > The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not > have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at > Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with > ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived > on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the > meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact > extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, > perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any > case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The > fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, > and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf > hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that > she wasn?t very interested. > > Martin Dodsworth > Brill, Buckinghamshire > > > > > > *Dr Peter Adkins * > > (He/Him/His) > > > > *Website: peteradkins.net > * > > *Twitter: *@peteradkins17 > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > > > > -- > > *Alice Lowe* > > *https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.aliceloweblogs.wordpress.com__;!!KGKeukY!zlku9fVXwXfVlshE_fLCypPiXsx65Oxrr3iSCj1h35t4F8Apz_HDObK2UwPv8K1mSlvBj7pxERV3Rvs0dkULz_iMZw$ * > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And, by the way, just in case you need a drink after this, you may want to try this recipe listed on Lithub (there?s one for Zora Neal Hurston as well): The Virginia Woolf 2 shots oaked amber rum ? shot peach syrup* ? shot fresh lemon juice Garnish: mint Add all ingredients to a shaker filled with ice and shake vigorously. Strain through a fine strainer into a Nick and Nora glass. Gently press mint with fingers to release oils, and garnish. *Peach Syrup: In a small, heavy-bottomed saucepan, simmer 2 small peaches (sliced into small pieces) and basic simple syrup for 5 minutes. Remove from heat, allow to cool, and strain. From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 2:32 AM To: peteradkins349 at gmail.com; 'VWOOLF listserv' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide This is the email I sent to the TLS on 12 Jan 2023, but they didn?t publish it: In his letter regarding the contrasting meals Virginia Woolf describes in A Room of One?s Own, Martin Dodsworth considers her to have been ?purely rhetorical? (Letters, This is the email I sent to the TLS on 12 Jan 2023, but they didn?t publish it: In his letter regarding the contrasting meals Virginia Woolf describes in A Room of One?s Own, Martin Dodsworth considers her to have been ?purely rhetorical? (Letters, January 13). E E Duncan-Jones?s recollection of Woolf?s lateness, that he refers to, was collected by Ann Phillips in her A Newnham Anthology (Newnham College, 1979; repr. 1988). Duncan-Jones also recognised Woolf?s use of hyperbole to underscore an argument admitting that her ?purpose was, of course, to evoke pity for the poverty of the women?s colleges?. However, I feel Mr Dodsworth is wide of the mark when he goes on to suggest that Woolf probably ?wasn?t very interested? in good food. In the 1930?s she dined at Marcel Boulestin?s famous restaurant in Covent Garden, enjoying such dishes as his sole with mushroom sauce so much that she sent her cook, Mabel Haskins, to him to take lessons. Mabel ?thoroughly enjoyed? the lessons and Woolf was pleased to be ?reaping the benefits?. Stephen From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: 14 April 2023 09:25 To: 'VWOOLF listserv' > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide I?ve just checked David Bradshaw and Stuart N. Clarke?s Shakespeare Head Press edition of AROO and they quote from Elsie Duncan-Jones complaining that VW was an ?hour late? to dinner and that dinner ?in Clough Hall, never a repast for gourmets, I?ve just checked David Bradshaw and Stuart N. Clarke?s Shakespeare Head Press edition of AROO and they quote from Elsie Duncan-Jones complaining that VW was an ?hour late? to dinner and that dinner ?in Clough Hall, never a repast for gourmets, suffered considerably?. I am fascinated by the idea that there was a meal prepared for her that she missed (intentionally?!) and yet the College catering becomes such a memorable part of AROO (at least for me). I love how this email thread has become such a robust response to the (irritatingly) persistent idea of an ?ethereal, frail? Virginia as Marie-Claire puts it so well. It?s a shame that I didn?t spot the letter sooner, otherwise I feel that a response to the letter would be well warranted! Peter From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:43 PM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: VWOOLF listserv > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Thank you for saying that. A reply with a brief "Me too!" is not possible, though (ahah again ;)) but yes, I have enjoyed this too. Pity no time to write, talk & meet further. Once upon a time I had made a micro point (w/o pins Thank you for saying that. A reply with a brief "Me too!" is not possible, though (ahah again ;)) but yes, I have enjoyed this too. Pity no time to write, talk & meet further. Once upon a time I had made a micro point (w/o pins or needles!) about the "haddock and sausage" phrase in the penultimate pages of D (Feb. 7, 1941) too, actually. Thereby agreeing with Alice, apparently. "Haddock and sausage meat. I think it is true that one gains a certain hold on haddock and sausage meat by writing them down. (...) Oh Dear yes, I shall conquer this mood. (...) Now to cook haddock." So much for an ethereal, frail Virginia. Not so fragile. One who loved p?t?s, mushroom hunting & picking on the Downs and home-made omelettes, & protein-packed sustenance. Bon app?tit - or happy reading! Back to my translation now. Thank you! :-) mc Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 10:17?PM < danelljones at bresnan.net> wrote: Just have to say how much I have enjoyed this conversation. From: Vwoolf < vwoolf-bounces at ls.osu.edu> On Behalf Of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:24 PM To: mhussey at verizon.net Cc: VWOOLF listserv < vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC@?Clarior.?net IMPORTANT:? Spot on! Aha haha! -D Thank you for making me smile! ;-) :-) Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 8:24?PM < mhussey at verizon.net> wrote: Marie-Claire?s ref to Leonard reminded me that he was gently mocked by Clive Bell and Raymond Mortimer in an exchange in the NS&N about the relative merits of English hotel food vs. French ? Clive wrote: ?On my French tours never have I had a companion, no matter how patriotic or ascetic, who did not look forward with unconcealed, indeed with loudly expressed, pleasure to lunch. I have never known, nor ever heard of, anyone, except Mr. Woolf, who looked forward to lunch in an English inn.? From: Marie Claire Boisset < mc at clarior.net> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:46 PM To: Alice Lowe < alicelowe88 at gmail.com> Cc: mhussey at verizon.net; VWOOLF listserv < vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Alice: I'll have to read this piece too. One of my favorites on this topic is "One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well." (ROO). Remember noticing that when the Wolves visited our area in Corr?ze (Brive (!), Uzerche, etc., in SW France (now "Nouvelle Aquitaine") in the 30s - noted in D somewhere), she argued with Leonard on the quality of the p?t? in comparison with the pub's at Rodmell. If I remember correctly she preferred our local specialty recipe (I won't say anything about foie gras, etc. - shhht!), whilst L defended Rodmell pub's. Of course she was absolutely right and Leonard totally wrong, aha aha! ? Hope you enjoyed a good Easter - Happy Spring to all of you ? Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:17?PM Alice Lowe via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia Woolf's Life and Work.?" From numerous passages in her letters and diaries as My paper at the 2010 conference, published in the selected works from that year, was "A Certain Hold on Haddock and Sausage: Dining Well in Virginia Woolf's Life and Work." From numerous passages in her letters and diaries as well as her novels, there is little doubt she relished & appreciated good food. Traveling in France with Vita, she describes the food in several letters to Leonard as well as in her diary. Read about: "the vastest most delicious meal I have ever eaten..." (L3:534) and "a first rate dinner thought out and presided over by a graceful young chef..." (D4:317). On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:51?AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: Epic snark! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:?06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Epic snark! From: Vwoolf < vwoolf-bounces at lists.osu.edu> On Behalf Of Peter Adkins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:06 AM To: VWOOLF listserv < vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf?s good food guide Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Making my way through my backlog of TLS issues, I thought the following letter from the January 13 2023 edition might be of interest to Woolfians on the list (and apologies if it has already been shared!): Woolf?s good food guide Reviewing Diane Purkiss?s book on English food (December 23 & 30), Ysenda Maxtone Graham mentions the familiar passage in A Room of One?s Own contrasting the food served in a men?s college at Cambridge (King?s) and one for women (Newnham). It should be regarded as purely rhetorical, alas. The ?counterpane of the whitest cream? over the men?s sole may or may not have tasted good, depending on how much flour there was in it; the meal at Newnham would certainly have tasted better (and there is nothing wrong with ?beef with its attendant greens and potatoes?) had Virginia Woolf arrived on time for it. Katherine Duncan-Jones, whose mother, Elsie, arranged the meal specially for Woolf at Newnham, told me that she was in fact extravagantly late (having been fascinated by the men?s conversation, perhaps) and the carefully prepared meal was consequently ruined. In any case there is reason to doubt Woolf?s ability to recognize good food. The fuss about Mrs Ramsay?s daube in To the Lighthouse is hardly reassuring, and it is noticeable that in writing of Nelly Boxall, her own cook, Woolf hardly ever in her diaries mentions what comes to table. It?s probable that she wasn?t very interested. 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All registrations, boxed lunches, campus housing, banquet tickets, and excursion tickets must be purchased by May 1, 2023. The deadline for conference merchandise (t-shirts, mugs, and tote bags) is April 25, 2023. These orders must be completed by this date so that the products arrive in time for the conference.? For more information about the 2023 Woolf Conference, check out the main website at this link: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.fgcu.edu/cas/departments/langlit/virginiawoolf2023/__;!!KGKeukY!0BGiowYMVbh8tNtUZ9biNSo4LZXyyWkYf59Taqwr2wf3W2I2AFUDtT_e0ySLlBBuiUuy4ldSag6goYZybGIXaoxJ8LAmBA$ . Send any questions to vwoolf2023 at fgcu.edu. Best, Ben Hagen ? Benjamin D. Hagen, Ph.D. (he/him/his) Associate Professor | Dept of English University of South Dakota | Dakota Hall 204 ? I acknowledge that the University of South Dakota is on indigenous territory. 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(with nice portraits and some oddities): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thecollector.com/who-are-the-major-members-of-the-bloomsbury-group/__;!!KGKeukY!242CZvPFBbncxPE2yqWhBSZ0Zr24ml6RLICZaKIK85nPLm-NqWxIIaAslp37Nik-P8xV3lnwqOoyDCY47uZXZUCmrxwC$ An article by the same author (with, alas, an embarrassingly incorrect passage about Vanessa Bell): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thecollector.com/life-and-art-of-vanessa-bell-post-impressionism-pioneer/__;!!KGKeukY!242CZvPFBbncxPE2yqWhBSZ0Zr24ml6RLICZaKIK85nPLm-NqWxIIaAslp37Nik-P8xV3lnwqOoyDCY47uZXZZszKZWZ$ A passing reference to Woolf in the introduction to a news article on Katherine Mansfield: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/queen-of-the-short-story-after-100-years-this-fearless-writer-finds-new-fans-20230405-p5cy99.html__;!!KGKeukY!242CZvPFBbncxPE2yqWhBSZ0Zr24ml6RLICZaKIK85nPLm-NqWxIIaAslp37Nik-P8xV3lnwqOoyDCY47uZXZe41LosK$ An article on an exhibit at Charleston (very pretty photographs of Charleston and some interesting places to visit listed at the bottom of the scroll): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://thespaces.com/betty-woodman-and-george-woodman-on-show-at-charleston/__;!!KGKeukY!242CZvPFBbncxPE2yqWhBSZ0Zr24ml6RLICZaKIK85nPLm-NqWxIIaAslp37Nik-P8xV3lnwqOoyDCY47uZXZdiLwipH$ Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Kllevenback via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2023 10:30 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Fwd: Mrs Dalloway for MOM Just in case?.?check it out. Stay safe? Karen Levenback Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Karen Levenback Date: April 20, 2023 at 5:?54:?07 AM EDT To: KLLevenback@?att.?net Subject: Mrs Dalloway for Just in case?.check it out. Stay safe? 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From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2023 1:18 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Kllevenback Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fwd: Mrs Dalloway for MOM "For there she was".?.?.?in Merve Emre's illustrated edition of Mrs. Dalloway. I think there is also an allusion to Woolf in the phrase "Notes of her own" (like A Room of One's Own) promoting a $30 "lovely and affordable "For there she was"...in Merve Emre's illustrated edition of Mrs. Dalloway. I think there is also an allusion to Woolf in the phrase "Notes of her own" (like A Room of One's Own) promoting a $30 "lovely and affordable hardback notebook [that] can be customized with details like monogramming and cover colors." More online things from Google Alert: "Who Are the 10 Key Members of the Bloomsbury Group?" (with nice portraits and some oddities): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thecollector.com/who-are-the-major-members-of-the-bloomsbury-group/__;!!KGKeukY!xQk_8Svr3zuELT0v2jIzZp8MI_x6800HJf803pp7KSs-muMzd7EHKGzdEF8PUO7KlrDdPEhHQI_foUC-DnX-aw$ An article by the same author (with, alas, an embarrassingly incorrect passage about Vanessa Bell): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thecollector.com/life-and-art-of-vanessa-bell-post-impressionism-pioneer/__;!!KGKeukY!xQk_8Svr3zuELT0v2jIzZp8MI_x6800HJf803pp7KSs-muMzd7EHKGzdEF8PUO7KlrDdPEhHQI_foUAt45Q1Lw$ A passing reference to Woolf in the introduction to a news article on Katherine Mansfield: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/queen-of-the-short-story-after-100-years-this-fearless-writer-finds-new-fans-20230405-p5cy99.html__;!!KGKeukY!xQk_8Svr3zuELT0v2jIzZp8MI_x6800HJf803pp7KSs-muMzd7EHKGzdEF8PUO7KlrDdPEhHQI_foUD1Lj7egg$ An article on an exhibit at Charleston (very pretty photographs of Charleston and some interesting places to visit listed at the bottom of the scroll): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://thespaces.com/betty-woodman-and-george-woodman-on-show-at-charleston/__;!!KGKeukY!xQk_8Svr3zuELT0v2jIzZp8MI_x6800HJf803pp7KSs-muMzd7EHKGzdEF8PUO7KlrDdPEhHQI_foUDuxqz_pg$ Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) _____ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Kllevenback via Vwoolf > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2023 10:30 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Fwd: Mrs Dalloway for MOM Just in case?.?check it out. Stay safe? Karen Levenback Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Karen Levenback Date: April 20, 2023 at 5:?54:?07 AM EDT To: KLLevenback@?att.?net Subject: Mrs Dalloway for Just in case?.check it out. Stay safe? 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Who better to guide you through great books and their authors than Virginia Woolf? *** (A large size ad (1/4 of the page) for a book entitled *Genius and Ink: Virginia Woolf on How to Read*.) Probably all or most of you here already saw the ad and/or the book - and so I humbly apologize to all those for whom this is *d?j? vu*. The *TLS* also includes a column by Professor Elaine Showalter on "The fashion of madness"... With all best wishes Marie-Claire NB: pic below - which may or may not go through - in which case I might resend the message alone. Thank you! :-) [image: 64B1B868-7880-43B3-BE23-681FF868EB00_1_105_c.jpeg] Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie Translations Address Brive-La-Gaillarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France. Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> Email MC at Clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. 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From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 3:28 PM To: vwoolf listerve Subject: [Vwoolf] Something in the TLS again Hello all: Opening the TLS (dated April 21, 2023, page 11) moments ago I was startled to read: *** You know Woolf the writer. This is Woolf the reader. Who better to guide you through great books and their authors than Virginia Woolf?***(A Hello all: Opening the TLS (dated April 21, 2023, page 11) moments ago I was startled to read: *** You know Woolf the writer. This is Woolf the reader. Who better to guide you through great books and their authors than Virginia Woolf? *** (A large size ad (1/4 of the page) for a book entitled Genius and Ink: Virginia Woolf on How to Read.) Probably all or most of you here already saw the ad and/or the book - and so I humbly apologize to all those for whom this is d?j? vu. The TLS also includes a column by Professor Elaine Showalter on "The fashion of madness"... 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 507425 bytes Desc: not available URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Sat Apr 29 14:47:42 2023 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 18:47:42 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Bloomsbury sighting in the 30 April 2023 NY Times Magazine Message-ID: As noted in the subject line above, there's a Bloomsbury reference in the New York Times Magazine that evokes an earlier series of discussions about Bloomsbury, squares, circles, and triangles, as well as queerness. Kwame Anthony Appiah, the columnist of "The Ethicist," offers guidance in response to the query (and the title of the column) "Our Throuple Fell Apart. What Are the Rules of the Breakup?" He observes that: "Among tight-knit friends, things can get messy even when only two are involved at a time. When friends and lovers are the same, things get more complicated still. The English artists and intellectuals of the Bloomsbury group ? who, in the old line, 'lived in squares, painted in circles and loved in triangles'? included some math whizzes, and they, too, struggled with the geometry of their loves and loyalties." https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/21/magazine/polyamory-breakup-ethics.html__;!!KGKeukY!xAv-PD52xe59F7pcsW_2gG4tquktB0bTYT--MmtUwK-FO-eIygc0Esk8FglEzSt272rHkPGj_gDmMuSn3uYj8dJguCi0$ Pursuing the thread of that phrase (and being very relieved that the author avoided any attribution), I thought it would be interesting to check on whether the phrase has continued to evolve while the attribution continues to be cited incorrectly despite an attempt to clarify its history, which Stuart N. Clarke has done diligently. In his article in Issue 57 of the Virginia Woolf Bulletin published in 2018 (later also re-published in the Virginia Woolf Miscellany), Stuart traced the first version of the phrase to Margaret Irwin's The Fire Down Below (1928). Stuart provides the exact phrase directly from Irwin's novel situated in its context: Mr. Wem knew everyone who was a philosopher or politician or artist or writer or thinker, or rather, everyone whom he counted as such, which did not mean that his acquaintance was at all wide. It was in fact limited to a part of London that Peregrine had referred to in his absence from lunch as Gloomsbury. ?Where?s that, Father?? ?It is a circle, my fair child, composed of a few squares where all the couples are triangles.? ?Perry dear what are you saying?? The children could not understand, but there was Miss O?Farrell; and you never knew with girls. (Irwin 109) (This quotation is pasted in from page 39 in Stuart's article in the Miscellany: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/vwm92fall2017winter20181.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!xAv-PD52xe59F7pcsW_2gG4tquktB0bTYT--MmtUwK-FO-eIygc0Esk8FglEzSt272rHkPGj_gDmMuSn3uYj8SGtfq0m$ .) On the Quote Investigator website, variations of the phrase are traced through to Kingsley Martin (1941), John Walker (1975), Dianne C. Betts (1979), Gertrude Himmelfarb (1986), the Victorian Review (2013), and Amy Licence (2015) in her book Living in Squares, Loving in Triangles: The Lives and Loves of Virginia Woolf and the Bloomsbury Group. Licence attributes the phrase to Dorothy Parker (which could explain where the Tate garnered its version). The Quote Investigator--Gregory F. Sullivan, who uses the pseudonym Garson O'Toole (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quote_Investigator)--also__;!!KGKeukY!xAv-PD52xe59F7pcsW_2gG4tquktB0bTYT--MmtUwK-FO-eIygc0Esk8FglEzSt272rHkPGj_gDmMuSn3uYj8T_Aefrq$ notes that, in a 2015 review of Life in Squares (a British television mini-series) published in the Daily Express, the phrase pops up again (the review was written by James Rampton). O'Toole says that the actor James Norton (who played Duncan Grant in the 1910-1920s segment) was interviewed by Rampton and that it was Norton who mentioned "living in squares, painting in circles and loving in triangles" (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/593251/Life-In-Squares-BBC-Bloomsbury-Group__;!!KGKeukY!xAv-PD52xe59F7pcsW_2gG4tquktB0bTYT--MmtUwK-FO-eIygc0Esk8FglEzSt272rHkPGj_gDmMuSn3uYj8f4Sv6_1$ ), but actually it is Rampton who cites the phrase and, of course, attributes it to Dorothy Parker (wrongly). Here also is the exceptionally intricate citation from the Quote Investigator website: Issue: Fall 2017 / Winter 2018, Periodical: Virginia Woolf Miscellany, Number 92, Article: ?squares where all the couples are triangles,? Author: Stuart N. Clarke (Independent Scholar), Start Page 38, Column 2, Quote Page 39, Column 2, (Footnote states article first appeared in the Virginia Woolf Bulletin, No. 57 (January 2018), Pages 42-45). (Accessed online at virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com on November 20, 2018). (See https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://quoteinvestigator.com/2018/05/16/triangles/__;!!KGKeukY!xAv-PD52xe59F7pcsW_2gG4tquktB0bTYT--MmtUwK-FO-eIygc0Esk8FglEzSt272rHkPGj_gDmMuSn3uYj8UAJerI1$ ). I discovered quickly in my random search that the Tate (quite embarrassingly) still claims in a page dedicated to Bloomsbury that: "Writer Dorothy Parker famously said of the Bloomsbury Group that they ?lived in squares?and loved in triangles?. They have been criticised as an elitist hangover from the bohemianism of the nineteenth century, and their backgrounds and unconventional lifestyle have often overshadowed their artistic achievements. However, despite the criticisms levelled at them, many of the members of the Bloomsbury circle were important thinkers and innovators and they made a significant contribution to the development of modern art, design and literature." See https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.tate.org.uk/art/art-terms/b/bloomsbury__;!!KGKeukY!xAv-PD52xe59F7pcsW_2gG4tquktB0bTYT--MmtUwK-FO-eIygc0Esk8FglEzSt272rHkPGj_gDmMuSn3uYj8Qiyk3UF$ . So, the Tate is wrong (maybe someone should contact it and request a correction?). And Dorothy Parker never said or wrote it, but the attribution still haunts her. Of course, Dorothy Parker has acquired many, many other "spurious sayings," as Troy Patterson's states in his article "Martini Madness." He refers to Ralph Keyes's term the "flypaper figure" and mentions various famous people including "Samuel Goldwyn, Yogi Berra, Thomas Jefferson, and the vermouth-shunning Winston Churchill" as examples. Patterson's article offers an amusing discussion of such attributions (see https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.slate.com/articles/life/drink/features/2013/martini_madness_tournament/sweet_16/dorothy_parker_martini_poem_why_the_attribution_is_spurious.html__;!!KGKeukY!xAv-PD52xe59F7pcsW_2gG4tquktB0bTYT--MmtUwK-FO-eIygc0Esk8FglEzSt272rHkPGj_gDmMuSn3uYj8anCuDJz$ ). And, of course, Virginia Woolf herself is certainly one of these many "flypaper figures" whose fame somehow attracts winged fly-like phrases that adhere to these famous individuals' legacies even though the individuals never crafted them during their lives. Vara p.s. My apologies for redundancy if anyone has already brought up these topics recently and for any misspellings or garbled sentences. And yes, this is in some ways a reprise of an earlier conversation on the listserve: https://lists.osu.edu/pipermail/vwoolf/2018-June/002982.html Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. 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I?m going to England for the first time in a long time towards the end of July, staying in London. This time I?d love to go to Monk?s House. Any advice on how to get there, Monk?s house tips, Woolf tips in general, etc.? (Woolf restaurants to visit?) I?m so excited to go! Thank you! :) Adela Hurtado