[Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf's eyes

Fri Oct 28 12:13:33 EDT 2022

Absolutely agree with Marielle here - that’s a beautifully and strikingly
put point, Sarah.

Graham

On Fri 28 Oct 2022 at 4:58 p.m., Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD via Vwoolf <
vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:

> Beautifully said, Sarah. Ms Marielle O’Neill Postgraduate Researcher,
> Leeds Trinity University Executive Council Member, Virginia Woolf Society
> of Great Britain M. ONeill@ leedstrinity. ac. uk http: //www.
> virginiawoolfsociety. org. uk/events/ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
> Beautifully said, Sarah.
>
>
> Ms Marielle O’Neill
> Postgraduate Researcher, Leeds Trinity University
> Executive Council Member, Virginia Woolf Society of Great Britain
> M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/events/__;!!KGKeukY!0pZFalN9zVwYHiT8zvj-6N_dBqKazN9knj86tol_4RtXlYurynInvPkYWlBRD46qqKXFniWR0e0ajieahVW_LzRAjQw8EA$  
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> She/Her
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces at lists.osu.edu> on behalf of Sarah M. Hall
> via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 28, 2022 4:49 PM
> *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>; Stuart N. Clarke <
> stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf's eyes
>
> Thanks, Stuart, I found a similar line in Angelica's contribution to
> Recollections of Virginia Woolf, ed. Joan Russell Noble (Peter Owen, 1972):
> 'her bladed nose, like the breastbone of a bird or the wing of a bat,
> surmounted by deeply hooded
> Thanks, Stuart, I found a similar line in Angelica's contribution to *Recollections
> of Virginia Woolf*, ed. Joan Russell Noble (Peter Owen, 1972):
>
> 'her bladed nose, like the breastbone of a bird or the wing of a bat,
> surmounted by deeply hooded melancholy grey-green eyes. She had the worn
> beauty of a hare's paw.' (p. 84)
>
>
> It made me remember that as a child I used to notice the eye colour of
> everyone I met; now, almost never. The child's world is in close-up, I
> suppose, whereas adults don't want to encroach on personal space, or gaze
> deeply into the eyes of a near-stranger.
>
> I quite like the idea that we are unsure what VW looked like in terms of
> hair and eye colour. We all know about her youthful beauty, but this dearth
> of basic physical information suggests that people who knew her found her
> mind, conversation and behaviour much more memorable and noteworthy.
>
>
> On Friday, 28 October 2022 at 15:55:29 BST, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <
> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:
>
>
> From: Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, October 28, 2022 2: 37 PM
> To: Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD ; EllenMoody ; Laura Cernat Cc: VWOOLF
> Listserv ; vwoolf@ lists Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Jigsaw puzzle w/ Virginia
> Woolf ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
>
> [image: image]
>
>
> *From:* Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf
> *Sent:* Friday, October 28, 2022 2:37 PM
> *To:* Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD ; EllenMoody ; Laura Cernat
> *Cc:* VWOOLF Listserv ; vwoolf at lists
> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Jigsaw puzzle w/ Virginia Woolf
>
> Good to know about Ray Strachey's painting. Guessing the colors in black
> and white photography is always a gamble—dark blonde and pale brown hair
> shades can be misinterpreted as can red, dark brown and black. ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
> ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
>
> Good to know about Ray Strachey's painting.
>
> Guessing the colors in black and white photography is always a gamble—dark
> blonde and pale brown hair shades can be misinterpreted as can red, dark
> brown and black.
>
> Several paintings by Vanessa Bell show Virginia's hair as rather dark
> brown...
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw08084/Virginia-Woolf__;!!KGKeukY!0pZFalN9zVwYHiT8zvj-6N_dBqKazN9knj86tol_4RtXlYurynInvPkYWlBRD46qqKXFniWR0e0ajieahVW_LzSGkzDKYQ$  
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw08084/Virginia-Woolf__;!!KGKeukY!3xIKeAx3Dm5hhzejDa_UsG5WDfv-kebSrOn-jkiT6mofd2gfLVCZ7RFbf4ofvhJyW1snQHHgYT9BKdryBqu-LkGQLVvGWQ5XH5dwIq5b$>
>
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/features/virginia-woolf-making-waves-at-the-national-portrait-gallery-9603314.html__;!!KGKeukY!0pZFalN9zVwYHiT8zvj-6N_dBqKazN9knj86tol_4RtXlYurynInvPkYWlBRD46qqKXFniWR0e0ajieahVW_LzSinTrwAQ$  
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/features/virginia-woolf-making-waves-at-the-national-portrait-gallery-9603314.html__;!!KGKeukY!3xIKeAx3Dm5hhzejDa_UsG5WDfv-kebSrOn-jkiT6mofd2gfLVCZ7RFbf4ofvhJyW1snQHHgYT9BKdryBqu-LkGQLVvGWQ5XH7TEsIqz$>
>
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://arthive.com/artists/61917*Vanessa_Bell/works/475415*Portrait_Of_Virginia_Woolf__;fn4!!KGKeukY!0pZFalN9zVwYHiT8zvj-6N_dBqKazN9knj86tol_4RtXlYurynInvPkYWlBRD46qqKXFniWR0e0ajieahVW_LzS2COvwtQ$  
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://arthive.com/artists/61917*Vanessa_Bell/works/475415*Portrait_Of_Virginia_Woolf__;fn4!!KGKeukY!3xIKeAx3Dm5hhzejDa_UsG5WDfv-kebSrOn-jkiT6mofd2gfLVCZ7RFbf4ofvhJyW1snQHHgYT9BKdryBqu-LkGQLVvGWQ5XHx5ROn6m$>
>
> I wonder whether Woolf had dyed or lightened her hair around the time when
> Ray Strachey did the painting. 
>
> Paula Maggio had posted a blog about the blonde hair in the jigsaw puzzle
> in 2020:
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bloggingwoolf.org/2020/09/24/a-puzzling-question-why-is-woolf-depicted-as-a-blue-eyed-blonde/amp/__;!!KGKeukY!0pZFalN9zVwYHiT8zvj-6N_dBqKazN9knj86tol_4RtXlYurynInvPkYWlBRD46qqKXFniWR0e0ajieahVW_LzSoXgPCzg$  
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bloggingwoolf.org/2020/09/24/a-puzzling-question-why-is-woolf-depicted-as-a-blue-eyed-blonde/amp/__;!!KGKeukY!3xIKeAx3Dm5hhzejDa_UsG5WDfv-kebSrOn-jkiT6mofd2gfLVCZ7RFbf4ofvhJyW1snQHHgYT9BKdryBqu-LkGQLVvGWQ5XH-3T4lBs$>.
> (It's not clear whether the artist ever responded to the query.)
>
> Also, on a related thread, I have a vague memory that someone claimed
> Woolf's eyes were green. Does anyone recall this? I can't find a link to
> anything about it right now.
>
> Vara
>
> Vara Neverow
> (she/her/hers)
> Professor, English Department and Women’s and Gender Studies Program
> Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany
> Southern Connecticut State University
> New Haven, CT 06515
> 203-392-6717
> neverowv1 at southernct.edu
>
> I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on
> traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the
> Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD <M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 28, 2022 8:54:43 AM
> *To:* Neverow, Vara S. <neverowv1 at southernct.edu>; Ellen Moody <
> ellen.moody at gmail.com>; Laura Cernat <cernat.laura at kuleuven.be>
> *Cc:* VWOOLF Listserv <vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu>; vwoolf at lists
> <vwoolf at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu>
> *Subject:* RE: [Vwoolf] Jigsaw puzzle w/ Virginia Woolf
>
>
> Virginia Woolf is depicted as blonde in the painting by Ray Strachey
> dating from the 1920s held in the National Portrait Gallery:
>
>
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw36771/Virginia-Woolf__;!!KGKeukY!0pZFalN9zVwYHiT8zvj-6N_dBqKazN9knj86tol_4RtXlYurynInvPkYWlBRD46qqKXFniWR0e0ajieahVW_LzS3FbXh6w$  
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>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces+m.oneill=leedstrinity.ac.uk at lists.osu.edu> *On
> Behalf Of *Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf
> *Sent:* 28 October 2022 13:51
> *To:* Ellen Moody <ellen.moody at gmail.com>; Laura Cernat <
> cernat.laura at kuleuven.be>
> *Cc:* VWOOLF Listserv <vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu>; vwoolf at lists
> <vwoolf at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Jigsaw puzzle w/ Virginia Woolf
>
>
>
> A few sources to consider (though not identical in concept!): Authors:
> https: //www. seriouspuzzles.
> com/famous-writers-1000pc-jigsaw-puzzle-by-eurographics/ https: //pixels.
> com/shop/puzzles/literary Artwork: https: //www. redbubble.
> com/shop/modernism+jigsaw-puzzles
>
> A few sources to consider (though not identical in concept!):
>
> Authors:
>
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.seriouspuzzles.com/famous-writers-1000pc-jigsaw-puzzle-by-eurographics/__;!!KGKeukY!0pZFalN9zVwYHiT8zvj-6N_dBqKazN9knj86tol_4RtXlYurynInvPkYWlBRD46qqKXFniWR0e0ajieahVW_LzS7JTSK4A$  
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>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://pixels.com/shop/puzzles/literary__;!!KGKeukY!0pZFalN9zVwYHiT8zvj-6N_dBqKazN9knj86tol_4RtXlYurynInvPkYWlBRD46qqKXFniWR0e0ajieahVW_LzQmB_gNLg$  
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>
> Artwork:
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.redbubble.com/shop/modernism*jigsaw-puzzles__;Kw!!KGKeukY!0pZFalN9zVwYHiT8zvj-6N_dBqKazN9knj86tol_4RtXlYurynInvPkYWlBRD46qqKXFniWR0e0ajieahVW_LzRd-7GdtQ$  
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>
>
>
> Just curious--I wonder why Woolf is depicted as blonde in the jigsaw
> puzzle.
>
>
>
> Vara
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Vara Neverow
>
> (she/her/hers)
>
> Professor, English Department and Women’s and Gender Studies Program
>
> Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany
>
> Southern Connecticut State University
>
> New Haven, CT 06515
>
> 203-392-6717
>
> neverowv1 at southernct.edu
>
>
>
> I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on
> traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the
> Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples.
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces+neverowv1=southernct.edu at lists.osu.edu> on
> behalf of Ellen Moody via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 28, 2022 8:33:52 AM
> *To:* Laura Cernat <cernat.laura at kuleuven.be>
> *Cc:* VWOOLF Listserv <vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu>; vwoolf at lists
> <vwoolf at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Jigsaw puzzle w/ Virginia Woolf
>
>
>
> Just to say how much I like these puzzles. I shall buy the PBS one with
> the women writers for one of my daughters for Christmas!   Do people know
> of any others like these two? Ellen ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
> ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
>
> Just to say how much I like these puzzles. I shall buy the PBS one with
> the women writers for one of my daughters for Christmas!
>
> Do people know of any others like these two?
>
>
>
> Ellen
>
>
>
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>
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