From Benjamin.Hagen at usd.edu Fri Jul 1 10:26:18 2022 From: Benjamin.Hagen at usd.edu (Hagen, Benjamin D) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 14:26:18 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Volume 28 of Woolf Studies Annual Now Available Message-ID: Dear all, Volume 28 (2022) of Woolf Studies Annual is now available for purchase on Pace UP?s website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://press.pace.edu/woolf-studies-annual-wsa/__;!!KGKeukY!ylESlzvEakFBoMbc0Q7Y9-zG5DAPgxRoJPAPzEkf4PjspRdthYAvetZEcmG49IV_ugfLC6d-FcZxa8crmPFmLWdQRrrWYA$ . Click ?Order Now? on the left side of the site or scroll down and open the Volume 28, 2022 module to access more information (or ?Add to Cart? to purchase). You can read the Table of Contents here: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://press.pace.edu/files/2022/06/WSA-contents.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!ylESlzvEakFBoMbc0Q7Y9-zG5DAPgxRoJPAPzEkf4PjspRdthYAvetZEcmG49IV_ugfLC6d-FcZxa8crmPFmLWflei43LQ$ . Pace UP has written up the following description of Volume 28: ?This volume is a celebration as we welcome Dr. Benjamin Hagen as the new, and only second, editor of the journal after the longtime leadership of founding editor Dr. Mark Hussey. Dr. Hagen is proud to include an expansive index for Woolf scholars that covers such topics as names and places, sources, topics, and references related to Woolf?s writing. He says, ?I hope many will see this index as a map to help them navigate and keep alive the research, debates, and contributions to modernist studies that Woolf Studies Annual featured in its first decade.?? Note: the index covers volumes 1?10 of WSA (1995?2004). The index team is planning to cover volumes 11?15 for Volume 29. Best, Ben Hagen ? Benjamin D. Hagen, Ph.D. (he/him/his) Associate Professor | Dept of English | University of South Dakota Author | The Sensuous Pedagogies of Virginia Woolf and D.H. 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In-Reply-To: <9B572C82-41D4-4DDD-858B-8D2A6EE51EF7@gmail.com> References: <9B572C82-41D4-4DDD-858B-8D2A6EE51EF7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9B4B1B01F02144C69D16729BE7C7C95B@StuartHP> Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed to Woolf? Stuart From: Jean Mills Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM To: Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke Subject: Quote source? This query came from a friend doing research for a book on solitude: I've seen this quote widely attributed to her but cannot pinpoint the primary source: "In solitude we give passionate attention to our lives, to our memories, to the details around us." Any help? I?m traveling at the moment and away from my books :( with thanks for any lead, Jean Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From millsj7 at gmail.com Sat Jul 9 02:24:48 2022 From: millsj7 at gmail.com (Jean Mills) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2022 23:24:48 -0700 Subject: [Vwoolf] Quote source? In-Reply-To: <9B4B1B01F02144C69D16729BE7C7C95B@StuartHP> References: <9B4B1B01F02144C69D16729BE7C7C95B@StuartHP> Message-ID: <3C2F29FB-4CD9-48EC-8EF5-0D8B95167D7D@gmail.com> I think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the good intel which I will pass along. Jean Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: > > ? > Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed to Woolf? > > Stuart > > From: Jean Mills > Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM > To: Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke > Subject: Quote source? > > This query came from a friend doing research for a book on solitude: I've seen this quote widely attributed to her but cannot pinpoint the primary source: "In solitude we give passionate attention to our lives, to our memories, to the details around us." > > Any help? I?m traveling at the moment and away from my books :( with thanks for any lead, Jean > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarkway at btinternet.com Sun Jul 10 02:17:01 2022 From: sbarkway at btinternet.com (Stephen Barkway) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 07:17:01 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Simon Heffer bashes Woolf and Bloomsbury yet again! Message-ID: <04b501d89424$ab21eb50$0165c1f0$@btinternet.com> More lazy journalism from the Daily Telegraph's Bloomsbury-Basher Simon Heffer: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1023/reader/reader.html?social*!__;Iw!!KGKeukY!0mr55E_KE860gV-WWrW4jxdSlp_W2hzmHSewHdjmbOzjH16q2PF-DxrtmpjbnnPtDSb9vJf3dzjgms5z59azBqTQ$ preferred/0/package/1023/pub/1023/page/172/article/NaN Stephen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Sun Jul 10 08:16:19 2022 From: mhussey at verizon.net (Mark Hussey) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 12:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] Simon Heffer bashes Woolf and Bloomsbury yet again! In-Reply-To: <04b501d89424$ab21eb50$0165c1f0$@btinternet.com> References: <04b501d89424$ab21eb50$0165c1f0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <407624723.4257768.1657455379656@mail.yahoo.com> Cats do not go to heaven, women cannot write the plays of Shakespeare. ?How glawrious to be Simon Heffer, repeating himself for 40 years! On Sunday, July 10, 2022, 02:17:16 AM EDT, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: More lazy journalism from the Daily Telegraph?s Bloomsbury-Basher Simon Heffer: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1023/reader/reader.html?social*!preferred*0*package*1023*pub*1023*page*172*article*NaN__;Iy8vLy8vLy8vLw!!KGKeukY!3QhUgHdFcGmA1gcPorUT2fcaH6kohLVPIlrar2FQ7KG_jmC7PDoDyYBzG6hXZvDmqqa0O4VB1xfsfUFGEzQnyg$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? More lazy journalism from the Daily Telegraph?s Bloomsbury-Basher Simon Heffer: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1023/reader/reader.html?social*!preferred*0*package*1023*pub*1023*page*172*article*NaN__;Iy8vLy8vLy8vLw!!KGKeukY!3QhUgHdFcGmA1gcPorUT2fcaH6kohLVPIlrar2FQ7KG_jmC7PDoDyYBzG6hXZvDmqqa0O4VB1xfsfUFGEzQnyg$ ? ? Stephen ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Sun Jul 10 09:39:03 2022 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 09:39:03 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Simon Heffer bashes Woolf and Bloomsbury yet again! In-Reply-To: <407624723.4257768.1657455379656@mail.yahoo.com> References: <04b501d89424$ab21eb50$0165c1f0$@btinternet.com> <407624723.4257768.1657455379656@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002801d89462$6b976760$42c63620$@verizon.net> The comments (for which one does not, apparently, have to pay even the nominal trial subscription fee to see) are illuminating: uniformly Woolf (& even DHL)-bashing. Good old Torygraph. I suppose Mr. Heffer?s readers must agree with Arnold Bennett, who wrote (1920) ??the truth is that intellectually and creatively man is the superior of woman and ? in the region of creative intellect there are things which men almost habitually do but which women have not done and give practically no sign of ever being able to do.? Time for another sherry, I think, Simon. From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 8:16 AM To: Stephen Barkway Cc: Vwoolf Listerve Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Simon Heffer bashes Woolf and Bloomsbury yet again! Cats do not go to heaven, women cannot write the plays of Shakespeare. How glawrious to be Simon Heffer, repeating himself for 40 years! On Sunday, July 10, 2022, 02:17:16 AM EDT, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf > wrote: Cats do not go to heaven, women cannot write the plays of Shakespeare. How glawrious to be Simon Heffer, repeating himself for 40 years! On Sunday, July 10, 2022, 02:17:16 AM EDT, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf > wrote: More lazy journalism from the Daily Telegraph?s Bloomsbury-Basher Simon Heffer: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1023/reader/reader.html?social*!preferred*0*package*1023*pub*1023*page*172*article*NaN__;Iy8vLy8vLy8vLw!!KGKeukY!3-NWfdsVFTPgpHzmTb3HqfYTZBLu-CFiNZROYQtHTMTSMIXX9fJcuAqvey49MclbG1XywLJZy7AOgdgWYNk8LA$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? More lazy journalism from the Daily Telegraph?s Bloomsbury-Basher Simon Heffer: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1023/reader/reader.html?social*!preferred*0*package*1023*pub*1023*page*172*article*NaN__;Iy8vLy8vLy8vLw!!KGKeukY!3-NWfdsVFTPgpHzmTb3HqfYTZBLu-CFiNZROYQtHTMTSMIXX9fJcuAqvey49MclbG1XywLJZy7AOgdgWYNk8LA$ Stephen _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From everyheartonbroadway at gmail.com Sun Jul 10 10:10:20 2022 From: everyheartonbroadway at gmail.com (Graham Borland) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 15:10:20 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Simon Heffer bashes Woolf and Bloomsbury yet again! In-Reply-To: <002801d89462$6b976760$42c63620$@verizon.net> References: <04b501d89424$ab21eb50$0165c1f0$@btinternet.com> <407624723.4257768.1657455379656@mail.yahoo.com> <002801d89462$6b976760$42c63620$@verizon.net> Message-ID: It?s almost impressive how little the author manages to actually say in praise of Bennett?s work; he seems rather more consumed with the task of rejecting some image of Woolf and Bloomsbury than getting people to read neglected literature. Really does lay bare how the ?Bloomsbury Set? plays a very strange role in the imaginary of a certain kind of Tory commentariat; they simultaneously represent a kind of uncouth class excess (the ?snobbish? avant-garde) and a kind of class betrayal (?hand-to-mouth genteel?). Graham On Sun 10 Jul 2022 at 2:39 p.m., Mark Hussey via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > The comments (for which one does not, apparently, have to pay even the > nominal trial subscription fee to see) are illuminating: uniformly Woolf (& > even DHL)-bashing. Good old Torygraph. I suppose Mr. Heffer?s readers must > agree with Arnold > > The comments (for which one does not, apparently, have to pay even the > nominal trial subscription fee to see) are illuminating: uniformly Woolf (& > even DHL)-bashing. Good old Torygraph. I suppose Mr. Heffer?s readers must > agree with Arnold Bennett, who wrote (1920) ??the truth is that > intellectually and creatively man is the superior of woman and ? in the > region of creative intellect there are things which men almost habitually > do but which women have not done and give practically no sign of ever being > able to do.? Time for another sherry, I think, Simon. > > > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *Mark Hussey > via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Sunday, July 10, 2022 8:16 AM > *To:* Stephen Barkway > *Cc:* Vwoolf Listerve > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Simon Heffer bashes Woolf and Bloomsbury yet > again! > > > > Cats do not go to heaven, women cannot write the plays of Shakespeare. How > glawrious to be Simon Heffer, repeating himself for 40 years! On Sunday, > July 10, 2022, 02:17:16 AM EDT, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > Cats do not go to heaven, women cannot write the plays of Shakespeare. > How glawrious to be Simon Heffer, repeating himself for 40 years! > > > > On Sunday, July 10, 2022, 02:17:16 AM EDT, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > > > > > More lazy journalism from the Daily Telegraph?s Bloomsbury-Basher Simon > Heffer: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1023/reader/reader.html?social*!preferred*0*package*1023*pub*1023*page*172*article*NaN__;Iy8vLy8vLy8vLw!!KGKeukY!1puiHu27ufg6IeFKLUKe7Sj_Sr2-xsWaCF8jEkGG8AwAOpMvpSDM_pqNt692q4RqdrfJTlgd-GTHI2H8brznsgqmZpNTdQ$ > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > > More lazy journalism from the Daily Telegraph?s Bloomsbury-Basher Simon > Heffer: > > *https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1023/reader/reader.html?social*!preferred*0*package*1023*pub*1023*page*172*article*NaN__;Iy8vLy8vLy8vLw!!KGKeukY!1puiHu27ufg6IeFKLUKe7Sj_Sr2-xsWaCF8jEkGG8AwAOpMvpSDM_pqNt692q4RqdrfJTlgd-GTHI2H8brznsgqmZpNTdQ$ > * > > > > > > Stephen > > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -- Graham Borland ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The comments (for which one does not, apparently, have to pay even the nominal trial subscription fee to see) are illuminating: uniformly Woolf (& even DHL)-bashing. Good old Torygraph. I suppose Mr. Heffer?s readers must agree with Arnold The comments (for which one does not, apparently, have to pay even the nominal trial subscription fee to see) are illuminating: uniformly Woolf (& even DHL)-bashing. Good old Torygraph. I suppose Mr. Heffer?s readers must agree with Arnold Bennett, who wrote (1920) ???the truth is that intellectually and creatively man is the superior of woman and ? in the region of creative intellect there are things which men almost habitually do but which women have not done and give practically no sign of ever being able to do.?? Time for another sherry, I think, Simon. ? From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 8:16 AM To: Stephen Barkway Cc: Vwoolf Listerve Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Simon Heffer bashes Woolf and Bloomsbury yet again! ? Cats do not go to heaven, women cannot write the plays of Shakespeare. How glawrious to be Simon Heffer, repeating himself for 40 years! On Sunday, July 10, 2022, 02:17:16 AM EDT, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf > wrote: Cats do not go to heaven, women cannot write the plays of Shakespeare. ?How glawrious to be Simon Heffer, repeating himself for 40 years! ? On Sunday, July 10, 2022, 02:17:16 AM EDT, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf > wrote: ? ? More lazy journalism from the Daily Telegraph?s Bloomsbury-Basher Simon Heffer: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1023/reader/reader.html?social*!preferred*0*package*1023*pub*1023*page*172*article*NaN__;Iy8vLy8vLy8vLw!!KGKeukY!2Cm_En-_jtyiKsSIp1sQj04O23SL-6KsxdOr9w_u7apE3DBhC7D4CSHu-QD-P9aZwQOMhww2zyWLueb6h8bUi-SAtltUPky6Iw$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? More lazy journalism from the Daily Telegraph?s Bloomsbury-Basher Simon Heffer: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1023/reader/reader.html?social*!preferred*0*package*1023*pub*1023*page*172*article*NaN__;Iy8vLy8vLy8vLw!!KGKeukY!2Cm_En-_jtyiKsSIp1sQj04O23SL-6KsxdOr9w_u7apE3DBhC7D4CSHu-QD-P9aZwQOMhww2zyWLueb6h8bUi-SAtltUPky6Iw$ ? ? 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Nowhere scholarly or reputable that you would imagine actually checks their sources before publishing. Who has time for that? Another candidate for the Misquotations and Misattributions page, Stuart? (https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/resources/misquotations__;!!KGKeukY!xkTg0pBZndREUzFQIAD_bGBcKqpBr3KDYiuDVqqCc8v-rB_6mXveWo87TeR8EmC7k0xmvsgjPZ742ETRUGjWksNB$ ) Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Saturday, 9 July 2022 at 07:25:39 BST, Jean Mills via Vwoolf wrote: I think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the good intel which I will pass along. Jean Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:16 PM, StuartI think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the good intel which I will pass along. Jean Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: ? Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed to Woolf? Stuart From: Jean Mills Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM To: Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke Subject: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see.? Where has it been attributed to Woolf??Stuart?From: Jean Mills Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PMTo: Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke Subject: Quote source??This query came from a friend doing research for a book on solitude: I've seen this quote widely attributed to her but cannot pinpoint the primary source: "In solitude we give passionate attention to our lives, to our memories, to the details around us." ?Any help? I?m traveling at the moment and away from my books :( with thanks for any lead, Jean? Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfroula at northwestern.edu Mon Jul 11 09:05:48 2022 From: cfroula at northwestern.edu (Christine Froula) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 09:05:48 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Simon Heffer bashes Woolf and Bloomsbury yet again! In-Reply-To: <04b501d89424$ab21eb50$0165c1f0$@btinternet.com> References: <04b501d89424$ab21eb50$0165c1f0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: His case for reading Bennett might be more interesting if he showed the least understanding of the terms on which B appears in VW's manifesto for the "Georgians," and had he defended AB on those grounds. He really does seem utterly clueless, as if he hasn't actually read a word of AB or VW, let alone being able to tell the difference between their approaches to representing "the social system in action," or why a manifesto might have been in order given VW's then-obscurity and minority v. AB's immense cultural profile and success, etc. Christine On 7/10/2022 2:17 AM, Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf wrote: > More lazy journalism from the Daily Telegraph?s Bloomsbury-Basher > Simon Heffer: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1023/reader/reader.html?social*!preferred*0*package*1023*pub*1023*page*172*article*NaN__;Iy8vLy8vLy8vLw!!KGKeukY!33_Yd4kOciyyl0pbLlFnJbV7W5pWjYzidNDNv0fI_z7keuhgCLwJPtIlS0JteVvFDkxFWY_4lGi0LiBc_3MthrqZdkI$ > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > > More lazy journalism from the Daily Telegraph?s Bloomsbury-Basher > Simon Heffer: > > *https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1023/reader/reader.html?social*!preferred*0*package*1023*pub*1023*page*172*article*NaN__;Iy8vLy8vLy8vLw!!KGKeukY!33_Yd4kOciyyl0pbLlFnJbV7W5pWjYzidNDNv0fI_z7keuhgCLwJPtIlS0JteVvFDkxFWY_4lGi0LiBc_3MthrqZdkI$ > * > > Stephen > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!RAN69nmRW1nhX8lxJIkkCQmh6QYXGhUXhkmcAWxRmKqklimCUDuwJAyU0g2djIGaS9YFh4-_u2Mh4qQxEwRql7l3sg$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hagen, Ph.D. (he/him/his) Associate Professor | Dept of English | University of South Dakota Author | The Sensuous Pedagogies of Virginia Woolf and D.H. Lawrence Editor | Woolf Studies Annual President | International Virginia Woolf Society Executive Committee Member | D.H. Lawrence Society of North America Zoom Office [Meeting ID: 735 735 7944] ? I acknowledge that the University of South Dakota is on indigenous territory. This land is the traditional territory of Dakota, Lakota, Umonhon, Ponca, Otoe, and Ioway nations. From: Vwoolf on behalf of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Date: Monday, July 11, 2022 at 10:14 AM To: vwoolf listerve Cc: Y.Xin1 at brighton.ac.uk Subject: [Vwoolf] A query from Joy Xin Dear all, Joy Xin is seeking information about Woolf as indicated below (I have included Joy's email in this post). I am looking for some materials from Virginia Woolf. In 1924, Woolf wrote about peering into its ruins in the ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Dear all, Joy Xin is seeking information about Woolf as indicated below (I have included Joy's email in this post). I am looking for some materials from Virginia Woolf. In 1924, Woolf wrote about peering into its ruins in the Nation and Athenaeum: ?At the price of a penny fare, anyone can now sit on the top of an omnibus and see into the very saloons-or the angles and corners of the very saloons-in which the lovely Duchess received Fox and Burke and Sheridan." Could you help me to find the original article? Many thanks on behalf of Joy! Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women's and Gender Studies Program Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From M.Humm at uel.ac.uk Mon Jul 11 11:24:38 2022 From: M.Humm at uel.ac.uk (Maggie Humm) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 15:24:38 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A query from Joy Xin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It?s E4 p3 Coming Back to London N &A 14 March 1925. Maggie Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 4:14:26 PM To: vwoolf listerve Cc: Y.Xin1 at brighton.ac.uk Subject: [Vwoolf] A query from Joy Xin Dear all, Joy Xin is seeking information about Woolf as indicated below (I have included Joy's email in this post). I am looking for some materials from Virginia Woolf. In 1924, Woolf wrote about peering into its ruins in the ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? This email is from an external source. Ensure you trust the sender before opening any attachments or clicking on any links. ________________________________ Dear all, Joy Xin is seeking information about Woolf as indicated below (I have included Joy's email in this post). I am looking for some materials from Virginia Woolf. In 1924, Woolf wrote about peering into its ruins in the Nation and Athenaeum: ?At the price of a penny fare, anyone can now sit on the top of an omnibus and see into the very saloons-or the angles and corners of the very saloons-in which the lovely Duchess received Fox and Burke and Sheridan." Could you help me to find the original article? Many thanks on behalf of Joy! Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women's and Gender Studies Program Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) The information transmitted in this e-mail and its contents is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended addressee you are prohibited from storing, copying or using the information in any way. This email has been checked for viruses and malware but no liability is accepted by UEL for any damage caused by any virus or malware that may be transmitted by this email. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women's and Gender Studies Program Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Maggie Humm Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 11:24 AM To: Neverow, Vara S. ; vwoolf listerve Cc: Y.Xin1 at brighton.ac.uk Subject: Re: A query from Joy Xin It?s E4 p3 Coming Back to London N &A 14 March 1925. Maggie Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 4:14:26 PM To: vwoolf listerve Cc: Y.Xin1 at brighton.ac.uk Subject: [Vwoolf] A query from Joy Xin Dear all, Joy Xin is seeking information about Woolf as indicated below (I have included Joy's email in this post). I am looking for some materials from Virginia Woolf. In 1924, Woolf wrote about peering into its ruins in the ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? This email is from an external source. Ensure you trust the sender before opening any attachments or clicking on any links. ________________________________ Dear all, Joy Xin is seeking information about Woolf as indicated below (I have included Joy's email in this post). I am looking for some materials from Virginia Woolf. 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Name: 4.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 568 bytes Desc: 4.jpg URL: From millsj7 at gmail.com Mon Jul 11 17:18:40 2022 From: millsj7 at gmail.com (Jean Mills) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:18:40 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Quote source? In-Reply-To: <1897669729.6984478.1657492663499@mail.yahoo.com> References: <9B4B1B01F02144C69D16729BE7C7C95B@StuartHP> <3C2F29FB-4CD9-48EC-8EF5-0D8B95167D7D@gmail.com> <1897669729.6984478.1657492663499@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks, all! what I don't understand is why isn't what she actually wrote (for example, on solitude, in I dunno, say in AROO, enough?) sheesh, the truthiness of it all is frightening. Anyway, thanks for the course correction. The author, Heather Hansen, was grateful for the confirmation. -Jean On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 6:37 PM Sarah M. Hall wrote: > Found on web pages going by the 'poetic' names of: > > The Soul Garden Pathway > The Empty Round Table > QuoteFancy > RelicsWorld > Curated Quotes > Gracious Quotes > > and, disappointingly, Huff Post. Nowhere scholarly or reputable that you > would imagine actually checks their sources before publishing. Who has time > for that? > > Another candidate for the Misquotations and Misattributions page, Stuart? ( > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/resources/misquotations__;!!KGKeukY!0M7jJy9O8-NLkHxm79Qvdzs6moYTEq3-0zZ9BYUhMOQvaFuXCTQgmt43M9P1g7cHTubs3dA3ONMmL9rGvNI$ ) > > Sarah > > > Sarah M. Hall > Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB > Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk > Facebook: @VWSGB > Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB > Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety > > > > > > > On Saturday, 9 July 2022 at 07:25:39 BST, Jean Mills via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > > I think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote > quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the > good intel which I will pass along. Jean Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, > 2022, at 1:16 PM, Stuart > I think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote > quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the > good intel which I will pass along. Jean > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > ? > Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed > to Woolf? Stuart From: Jean Mills Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM To: > Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke Subject: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > > Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed > to Woolf? > > Stuart > > *From:* Jean Mills > *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM > *To:* Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke > *Subject:* Quote source? > > This query came from a friend doing research for a book on solitude: I've > seen this quote widely attributed to her but cannot pinpoint the primary > source: "In solitude we give passionate attention to our lives, to our > memories, to the details around us." > > Any help? I?m traveling at the moment and away from my books :( with > thanks for any lead, Jean > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -- Jean Mills (she, her, hers) Associate Professor The Department of English John Jay College/CUNY 524 West 59th Street, Room 7.63.12 New York, NY 10019 Selected Publications: "Feminist Theory" in *The Oxford Handbook of Virginia Woolf*, ed. by Anne Fernald, Oxford University Press, 2021. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780198811589.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780198811589__;!!KGKeukY!0M7jJy9O8-NLkHxm79Qvdzs6moYTEq3-0zZ9BYUhMOQvaFuXCTQgmt43M9P1g7cHTubs3dA3ONMmgohma9w$ *Nancy Cunard: Perfect Stranger *by Jane Marcus; Edited and with an Introduction and Afterword by Jean Mills. Clemson University Press, Fall, 2020 https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://libraries.clemson.edu/press/books/nancy-cunard-perfect-stranger/__;!!KGKeukY!0M7jJy9O8-NLkHxm79Qvdzs6moYTEq3-0zZ9BYUhMOQvaFuXCTQgmt43M9P1g7cHTubs3dA3ONMmRy4MOw4$ "'With every nerve in my body I stand for peace': Jane Ellen Harrison and the Heresy of War" in *Reconsidering Peace and Patriotism during the First World War *(Palgrave/Macmillan, 2017) https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.palgrave.com/de/book/9783319513003__;!!KGKeukY!0M7jJy9O8-NLkHxm79Qvdzs6moYTEq3-0zZ9BYUhMOQvaFuXCTQgmt43M9P1g7cHTubs3dA3ONMm9-1IwZQ$ *Virginia Woolf, Jane Ellen Harrison, and the Spirit of Modernist Classicism *(The Ohio State University Press, 2014) https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ohiostatepress.org/Books/Book*20Pages/Mills*20Virginia.html__;JSU!!KGKeukY!0M7jJy9O8-NLkHxm79Qvdzs6moYTEq3-0zZ9BYUhMOQvaFuXCTQgmt43M9P1g7cHTubs3dA3ONMmzrJHXOs$ Associate Editor, *Feminist Modernist Studies* 212.237.8706 JEMILLS at JJAY.CUNY.EDU -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com Tue Jul 12 05:49:51 2022 From: stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com (Stuart N. Clarke) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:49:51 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Quote source? In-Reply-To: References: <9B4B1B01F02144C69D16729BE7C7C95B@StuartHP> <3C2F29FB-4CD9-48EC-8EF5-0D8B95167D7D@gmail.com> <1897669729.6984478.1657492663499@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have been looking at the madey-uppy quotations and they tend towards (feminist) uplift, supposedly taken from Woolf?s essays and diaries. The list of web pages supplied by Sarah also suggests optimism. A bracing wave of reality is needed: ?Oh yes, he seemed to say, death is stronger than I am? (?The Death of the Moth?). See also Leonard?s ?A Calendar of Consolation: A Comforting Thought for Every Day in the Year" (1967). There is a lack of ?quotations? from Woolf?s novels. I have a print-out to hand with these that I sent to the listserv almost 10 years ago, so here they are again: >From almost any Woolf novel: ?She turned from the china cabinet with a cup in her hand. The windows blazed. She was filled with rapture.? >From ?The Years?: ?The bugles on her dress glittered in the candlelight. Was that the nineteenth century? Martin wondered. Was that all it was?? About another unwelcome visitor: ?. . . meretricious, cheap, hard, with ideas like a string of beads from Woolworths? (Diary). Stuart ?What can?t be cured must be endured? From: Jean Mills Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 10:18 PM To: Sarah M. Hall Cc: Stuart N. Clarke ; Woolf list Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? Thanks, all! what I don't understand is why isn't what she actually wrote (for example, on solitude, in I dunno, say in AROO, enough?) sheesh, the truthiness of it all is frightening. Anyway, thanks for the course correction. The author, Heather Hansen, was grateful for the confirmation. -Jean On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 6:37 PM Sarah M. Hall wrote: Found on web pages going by the 'poetic' names of: The Soul Garden Pathway The Empty Round Table QuoteFancy RelicsWorld Curated Quotes Gracious Quotes and, disappointingly, Huff Post. Nowhere scholarly or reputable that you would imagine actually checks their sources before publishing. Who has time for that? Another candidate for the Misquotations and Misattributions page, Stuart? (https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/resources/misquotations__;!!KGKeukY!1FD1_6oFpyyimbBGxWvW0_Ijmd1Tj_N8tDYwG9CJRo0a5SWYBjJi8xFw7Op9En2zCAEUm2h_w1rFeTgr4V0aSwhCzUFu3dHMuw$ ) Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Saturday, 9 July 2022 at 07:25:39 BST, Jean Mills via Vwoolf wrote: I think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the good intel which I will pass along. Jean Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Stuart I think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the good intel which I will pass along. Jean Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: ? Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed to Woolf? Stuart From: Jean Mills Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM To: Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke Subject: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed to Woolf? Stuart From: Jean Mills Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM To: Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke Subject: Quote source? This query came from a friend doing research for a book on solitude: I've seen this quote widely attributed to her but cannot pinpoint the primary source: "In solitude we give passionate attention to our lives, to our memories, to the details around us." Any help? I?m traveling at the moment and away from my books :( with thanks for any lead, Jean Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -- Jean Mills (she, her, hers) Associate Professor The Department of English John Jay College/CUNY 524 West 59th Street, Room 7.63.12 New York, NY 10019 Selected Publications: "Feminist Theory" in The Oxford Handbook of Virginia Woolf, ed. by Anne Fernald, Oxford University Press, 2021. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780198811589.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780198811589__;!!KGKeukY!1FD1_6oFpyyimbBGxWvW0_Ijmd1Tj_N8tDYwG9CJRo0a5SWYBjJi8xFw7Op9En2zCAEUm2h_w1rFeTgr4V0aSwhCzUEhP1IIGg$ Nancy Cunard: Perfect Stranger by Jane Marcus; Edited and with an Introduction and Afterword by Jean Mills. Clemson University Press, Fall, 2020 https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://libraries.clemson.edu/press/books/nancy-cunard-perfect-stranger/__;!!KGKeukY!1FD1_6oFpyyimbBGxWvW0_Ijmd1Tj_N8tDYwG9CJRo0a5SWYBjJi8xFw7Op9En2zCAEUm2h_w1rFeTgr4V0aSwhCzUGXqxRTlw$ "'With every nerve in my body I stand for peace': Jane Ellen Harrison and the Heresy of War" in Reconsidering Peace and Patriotism during the First World War (Palgrave/Macmillan, 2017) https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.palgrave.com/de/book/9783319513003__;!!KGKeukY!1FD1_6oFpyyimbBGxWvW0_Ijmd1Tj_N8tDYwG9CJRo0a5SWYBjJi8xFw7Op9En2zCAEUm2h_w1rFeTgr4V0aSwhCzUHWR2Nyjg$ Virginia Woolf, Jane Ellen Harrison, and the Spirit of Modernist Classicism (The Ohio State University Press, 2014) https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ohiostatepress.org/Books/Book*20Pages/Mills*20Virginia.html__;JSU!!KGKeukY!1FD1_6oFpyyimbBGxWvW0_Ijmd1Tj_N8tDYwG9CJRo0a5SWYBjJi8xFw7Op9En2zCAEUm2h_w1rFeTgr4V0aSwhCzUFoHkTh_g$ Associate Editor, Feminist Modernist Studies 212.237.8706 JEMILLS at JJAY.CUNY.EDU -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Tue Jul 12 10:36:16 2022 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 14:36:16 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Quote source? In-Reply-To: References: <9B4B1B01F02144C69D16729BE7C7C95B@StuartHP> <3C2F29FB-4CD9-48EC-8EF5-0D8B95167D7D@gmail.com> <1897669729.6984478.1657492663499@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Stuart, Would you be willing to share a few snippets from Leonard's "A Calendar of Consolation"? I doubt that many Woolfians have a copy of that particular volume (but I suspect that you do have it and have it relatively handy). Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women's and Gender Studies Program Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 5:49 AM To: Jean Mills ; Sarah M. Hall Cc: Woolf list Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? I have been looking at the madey-uppy quotations and they tend towards (feminist) uplift, supposedly taken from Woolf?s essays and diaries. The list of web pages supplied by Sarah also suggests optimism. A bracing wave of reality is needed: I have been looking at the madey-uppy quotations and they tend towards (feminist) uplift, supposedly taken from Woolf?s essays and diaries. The list of web pages supplied by Sarah also suggests optimism. A bracing wave of reality is needed: ?Oh yes, he seemed to say, death is stronger than I am? (?The Death of the Moth?). See also Leonard?s ?A Calendar of Consolation: A Comforting Thought for Every Day in the Year" (1967). There is a lack of ?quotations? from Woolf?s novels. I have a print-out to hand with these that I sent to the listserv almost 10 years ago, so here they are again: >From almost any Woolf novel: ?She turned from the china cabinet with a cup in her hand. The windows blazed. She was filled with rapture.? >From ?The Years?: ?The bugles on her dress glittered in the candlelight. Was that the nineteenth century? Martin wondered. Was that all it was?? About another unwelcome visitor: ?. . . meretricious, cheap, hard, with ideas like a string of beads from Woolworths? (Diary). Stuart ?What can?t be cured must be endured? From: Jean Mills Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 10:18 PM To: Sarah M. Hall Cc: Stuart N. Clarke ; Woolf list Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? Thanks, all! what I don't understand is why isn't what she actually wrote (for example, on solitude, in I dunno, say in AROO, enough?) sheesh, the truthiness of it all is frightening. Anyway, thanks for the course correction. The author, Heather Hansen, was grateful for the confirmation. -Jean On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 6:37 PM Sarah M. Hall wrote: Found on web pages going by the 'poetic' names of: The Soul Garden Pathway The Empty Round Table QuoteFancy RelicsWorld Curated Quotes Gracious Quotes and, disappointingly, Huff Post. Nowhere scholarly or reputable that you would imagine actually checks their sources before publishing. Who has time for that? Another candidate for the Misquotations and Misattributions page, Stuart? (https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/resources/misquotations__;!!KGKeukY!1f0uCFVm9tu3nmnZXVh-0su5fPejq9fK3_JRmyReAiwsA1Xd9fqYCCKe4eauvDP9AHD2HFIZ17Bk1mSpK-_1baMmepls$ ) Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Saturday, 9 July 2022 at 07:25:39 BST, Jean Mills via Vwoolf wrote: I think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the good intel which I will pass along. Jean Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Stuart I think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the good intel which I will pass along. Jean Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: ? Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed to Woolf? Stuart From: Jean Mills Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM To: Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke Subject: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed to Woolf? Stuart From: Jean Mills Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM To: Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke Subject: Quote source? This query came from a friend doing research for a book on solitude: I've seen this quote widely attributed to her but cannot pinpoint the primary source: "In solitude we give passionate attention to our lives, to our memories, to the details around us." Any help? I?m traveling at the moment and away from my books :( with thanks for any lead, Jean Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -- Jean Mills (she, her, hers) Associate Professor The Department of English John Jay College/CUNY 524 West 59th Street, Room 7.63.12 New York, NY 10019 Selected Publications: "Feminist Theory" in The Oxford Handbook of Virginia Woolf, ed. by Anne Fernald, Oxford University Press, 2021. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780198811589.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780198811589__;!!KGKeukY!1f0uCFVm9tu3nmnZXVh-0su5fPejq9fK3_JRmyReAiwsA1Xd9fqYCCKe4eauvDP9AHD2HFIZ17Bk1mSpK-_1bco7TLY2$ Nancy Cunard: Perfect Stranger by Jane Marcus; Edited and with an Introduction and Afterword by Jean Mills. Clemson University Press, Fall, 2020 https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://libraries.clemson.edu/press/books/nancy-cunard-perfect-stranger/__;!!KGKeukY!1f0uCFVm9tu3nmnZXVh-0su5fPejq9fK3_JRmyReAiwsA1Xd9fqYCCKe4eauvDP9AHD2HFIZ17Bk1mSpK-_1bRzYdNVI$ "'With every nerve in my body I stand for peace': Jane Ellen Harrison and the Heresy of War" in Reconsidering Peace and Patriotism during the First World War (Palgrave/Macmillan, 2017) https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.palgrave.com/de/book/9783319513003__;!!KGKeukY!1f0uCFVm9tu3nmnZXVh-0su5fPejq9fK3_JRmyReAiwsA1Xd9fqYCCKe4eauvDP9AHD2HFIZ17Bk1mSpK-_1be80_Z_A$ Virginia Woolf, Jane Ellen Harrison, and the Spirit of Modernist Classicism (The Ohio State University Press, 2014) https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ohiostatepress.org/Books/Book*20Pages/Mills*20Virginia.html__;JSU!!KGKeukY!1f0uCFVm9tu3nmnZXVh-0su5fPejq9fK3_JRmyReAiwsA1Xd9fqYCCKe4eauvDP9AHD2HFIZ17Bk1mSpK-_1bYJnh8Yh$ Associate Editor, Feminist Modernist Studies 212.237.8706 JEMILLS at JJAY.CUNY.EDU -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Tue Jul 12 10:38:30 2022 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 14:38:30 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Quote source? In-Reply-To: References: <9B4B1B01F02144C69D16729BE7C7C95B@StuartHP> <3C2F29FB-4CD9-48EC-8EF5-0D8B95167D7D@gmail.com> <1897669729.6984478.1657492663499@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Also, for those who would like to peruse the full email exchange from 2012 (which seems to have been initiated by Leslie Kathleen Hankins' request for her presentation at the 2012 Woolf conference organized by Ann Martin at the University of Saskatchewan), here's the link to that part of the "archive" of the listserv: https://lists.osu.edu/pipermail/vwoolf/2012-November/000187.html Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women's and Gender Studies Program Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 10:36 AM To: Jean Mills ; Sarah M. Hall ; Stuart N. Clarke Cc: Woolf list Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? Dear Stuart, Would you be willing to share a few snippets from Leonard's "A Calendar of Consolation"? I doubt that many Woolfians have a copy of that particular volume (but I suspect that you do have it and have it relatively handy). Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women's and Gender Studies Program Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 5:49 AM To: Jean Mills ; Sarah M. Hall Cc: Woolf list Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? I have been looking at the madey-uppy quotations and they tend towards (feminist) uplift, supposedly taken from Woolf?s essays and diaries. The list of web pages supplied by Sarah also suggests optimism. A bracing wave of reality is needed: I have been looking at the madey-uppy quotations and they tend towards (feminist) uplift, supposedly taken from Woolf?s essays and diaries. The list of web pages supplied by Sarah also suggests optimism. A bracing wave of reality is needed: ?Oh yes, he seemed to say, death is stronger than I am? (?The Death of the Moth?). See also Leonard?s ?A Calendar of Consolation: A Comforting Thought for Every Day in the Year" (1967). There is a lack of ?quotations? from Woolf?s novels. I have a print-out to hand with these that I sent to the listserv almost 10 years ago, so here they are again: >From almost any Woolf novel: ?She turned from the china cabinet with a cup in her hand. The windows blazed. She was filled with rapture.? >From ?The Years?: ?The bugles on her dress glittered in the candlelight. Was that the nineteenth century? Martin wondered. Was that all it was?? About another unwelcome visitor: ?. . . meretricious, cheap, hard, with ideas like a string of beads from Woolworths? (Diary). Stuart ?What can?t be cured must be endured? From: Jean Mills Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 10:18 PM To: Sarah M. Hall Cc: Stuart N. Clarke ; Woolf list Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? Thanks, all! what I don't understand is why isn't what she actually wrote (for example, on solitude, in I dunno, say in AROO, enough?) sheesh, the truthiness of it all is frightening. Anyway, thanks for the course correction. The author, Heather Hansen, was grateful for the confirmation. -Jean On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 6:37 PM Sarah M. Hall wrote: Found on web pages going by the 'poetic' names of: The Soul Garden Pathway The Empty Round Table QuoteFancy RelicsWorld Curated Quotes Gracious Quotes and, disappointingly, Huff Post. Nowhere scholarly or reputable that you would imagine actually checks their sources before publishing. Who has time for that? Another candidate for the Misquotations and Misattributions page, Stuart? (https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/resources/misquotations__;!!KGKeukY!xK2PGTZ8b5wgrxhKoYnb5EKYsGrtj1k2HMC17N8rxTySKMzTIf5Mh_dGQk_8pTz_w3dDaPXVl7_JsRG7xQLKzocU9TY8$ ) Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Saturday, 9 July 2022 at 07:25:39 BST, Jean Mills via Vwoolf wrote: I think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the good intel which I will pass along. Jean Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Stuart I think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the good intel which I will pass along. Jean Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: ? Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed to Woolf? Stuart From: Jean Mills Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM To: Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke Subject: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed to Woolf? Stuart From: Jean Mills Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM To: Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke Subject: Quote source? This query came from a friend doing research for a book on solitude: I've seen this quote widely attributed to her but cannot pinpoint the primary source: "In solitude we give passionate attention to our lives, to our memories, to the details around us." Any help? I?m traveling at the moment and away from my books :( with thanks for any lead, Jean Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -- Jean Mills (she, her, hers) Associate Professor The Department of English John Jay College/CUNY 524 West 59th Street, Room 7.63.12 New York, NY 10019 Selected Publications: "Feminist Theory" in The Oxford Handbook of Virginia Woolf, ed. by Anne Fernald, Oxford University Press, 2021. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780198811589.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780198811589__;!!KGKeukY!xK2PGTZ8b5wgrxhKoYnb5EKYsGrtj1k2HMC17N8rxTySKMzTIf5Mh_dGQk_8pTz_w3dDaPXVl7_JsRG7xQLKzlS8karW$ Nancy Cunard: Perfect Stranger by Jane Marcus; Edited and with an Introduction and Afterword by Jean Mills. Clemson University Press, Fall, 2020 https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://libraries.clemson.edu/press/books/nancy-cunard-perfect-stranger/__;!!KGKeukY!xK2PGTZ8b5wgrxhKoYnb5EKYsGrtj1k2HMC17N8rxTySKMzTIf5Mh_dGQk_8pTz_w3dDaPXVl7_JsRG7xQLKztPtimF0$ "'With every nerve in my body I stand for peace': Jane Ellen Harrison and the Heresy of War" in Reconsidering Peace and Patriotism during the First World War (Palgrave/Macmillan, 2017) https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.palgrave.com/de/book/9783319513003__;!!KGKeukY!xK2PGTZ8b5wgrxhKoYnb5EKYsGrtj1k2HMC17N8rxTySKMzTIf5Mh_dGQk_8pTz_w3dDaPXVl7_JsRG7xQLKzsJuRAQT$ Virginia Woolf, Jane Ellen Harrison, and the Spirit of Modernist Classicism (The Ohio State University Press, 2014) https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ohiostatepress.org/Books/Book*20Pages/Mills*20Virginia.html__;JSU!!KGKeukY!xK2PGTZ8b5wgrxhKoYnb5EKYsGrtj1k2HMC17N8rxTySKMzTIf5Mh_dGQk_8pTz_w3dDaPXVl7_JsRG7xQLKzqT9DgwJ$ Associate Editor, Feminist Modernist Studies 212.237.8706 JEMILLS at JJAY.CUNY.EDU -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com Wed Jul 13 14:51:15 2022 From: stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com (Stuart N. Clarke) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:51:15 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Quote source? In-Reply-To: <62C26B6301A5BEFC@sa-prd-rgin-002.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net> (added by postmaster@btinternet.com) References: <9B4B1B01F02144C69D16729BE7C7C95B@StuartHP><3C2F29FB-4CD9-48EC-8EF5-0D8B95167D7D@gmail.com><1897669729.6984478.1657492663499@mail.yahoo.com> <62C26B6301A5BEFC@sa-prd-rgin-002.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net> (added by postmaster@btinternet.com) Message-ID: <5CA08588CEC44D3CBF3B5CEFC5EB0BCA@StuartHP> 10 Feb What a deal of cold business doth a man mis-spend the better part of life in! in scattering compliments, tendering visits, gathering and venting news, following feasts and plays, making a little winter-love in a dark corner. (Ben Jonson, ?Timber or Discoveries?) 19 Feb Our life is short and tedious, and in the death of man is no remedy: neither was there any man known to have returned from the grave. (Apocrypha, ?Wisdom of Solomon?) 7 March ?He is an old bore, even the grave yawns for him.? (Beerbohm Tree, quoted in ?Max? by David Cecil) 10 March For I must tell you that in private life I have no patience at all with lunatics. (Freud, Letter to Pfister) 30 March There is no state in Europe where the least wise have not governed the most wise. (Landor, ?Rousseau and Malherbes?) 20 April ?By God, God himself is not so busy that a homicidal maniac with only ten dollars in the world can hitchhike a hundred miles and buy a gun for ten dollars then hitchhike another hundred and shoot another man with it.? ?Don?t that maybe depend on who God wants shot this time?? (Faulkner, ?The Mansion?) 23 May What female heart can gold despise? What Cat?s averse to fish? (Gray, ?Ode on the Death of a Favourite Cat?) 26 May Many of the books which now crowd the world, may be justly suspected to be written for the sake of some invisible order of human beings, for surely they are of no use to any of the corporeal inhabitants in the world. (Johnson, Review of ?Free Enquiry into the Nature and Origin of Evil?) 11 June Women are not by any means to blame when they reject the rules of life which have been introduced into the world, seeing that it is the men who made them without their consent. (Montaigne, ?Essays?) 10 Dec Youth is a blunder; Manhood a struggle; Old Age a regret. (Disraeli, ?Coningsby?) That?s quite enough! Stuart From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:36 PM To: Jean Mills ; Sarah M. Hall ; Stuart N. Clarke Cc: Woolf list Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? Dear Stuart, Would you be willing to share a few snippets from Leonard's "A Calendar of Consolation"? I doubt that many Woolfians have a copy of that particular volume (but I suspect that you do have it and have it relatively handy). Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women's and Gender Studies Program Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vwoolf on behalf of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 5:49 AM To: Jean Mills ; Sarah M. Hall Cc: Woolf list Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? I have been looking at the madey-uppy quotations and they tend towards (feminist) uplift, supposedly taken from Woolf?s essays and diaries. The list of web pages supplied by Sarah also suggests optimism. A bracing wave of reality is needed: I have been looking at the madey-uppy quotations and they tend towards (feminist) uplift, supposedly taken from Woolf?s essays and diaries. The list of web pages supplied by Sarah also suggests optimism. A bracing wave of reality is needed: ?Oh yes, he seemed to say, death is stronger than I am? (?The Death of the Moth?). See also Leonard?s ?A Calendar of Consolation: A Comforting Thought for Every Day in the Year" (1967). There is a lack of ?quotations? from Woolf?s novels. I have a print-out to hand with these that I sent to the listserv almost 10 years ago, so here they are again: >From almost any Woolf novel: ?She turned from the china cabinet with a cup in her hand. The windows blazed. She was filled with rapture.? >From ?The Years?: ?The bugles on her dress glittered in the candlelight. Was that the nineteenth century? Martin wondered. Was that all it was?? About another unwelcome visitor: ?. . . meretricious, cheap, hard, with ideas like a string of beads from Woolworths? (Diary). Stuart ?What can?t be cured must be endured? From: Jean Mills Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 10:18 PM To: Sarah M. Hall Cc: Stuart N. Clarke ; Woolf list Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? Thanks, all! what I don't understand is why isn't what she actually wrote (for example, on solitude, in I dunno, say in AROO, enough?) sheesh, the truthiness of it all is frightening. Anyway, thanks for the course correction. The author, Heather Hansen, was grateful for the confirmation. -Jean On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 6:37 PM Sarah M. Hall wrote: Found on web pages going by the 'poetic' names of: The Soul Garden Pathway The Empty Round Table QuoteFancy RelicsWorld Curated Quotes Gracious Quotes and, disappointingly, Huff Post. Nowhere scholarly or reputable that you would imagine actually checks their sources before publishing. Who has time for that? Another candidate for the Misquotations and Misattributions page, Stuart? (https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/resources/misquotations__;!!KGKeukY!ybrlxn8jibCVXzL07SgiPMlCeGSzqzx3OtXE6puzHMkQlqwgy5uLfnTsYVfwctkvJHn-B3T7n4m6FfpNXfnjIwbbQIuWSInsuQ$ ) Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Saturday, 9 July 2022 at 07:25:39 BST, Jean Mills via Vwoolf wrote: I think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the good intel which I will pass along. Jean Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Stuart I think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the good intel which I will pass along. Jean Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: ? Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed to Woolf? Stuart From: Jean Mills Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM To: Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke Subject: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed to Woolf? Stuart From: Jean Mills Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM To: Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke Subject: Quote source? This query came from a friend doing research for a book on solitude: I've seen this quote widely attributed to her but cannot pinpoint the primary source: "In solitude we give passionate attention to our lives, to our memories, to the details around us." Any help? I?m traveling at the moment and away from my books :( with thanks for any lead, Jean Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -- Jean Mills (she, her, hers) Associate Professor The Department of English John Jay College/CUNY 524 West 59th Street, Room 7.63.12 New York, NY 10019 Selected Publications: "Feminist Theory" in The Oxford Handbook of Virginia Woolf, ed. by Anne Fernald, Oxford University Press, 2021. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780198811589.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780198811589__;!!KGKeukY!ybrlxn8jibCVXzL07SgiPMlCeGSzqzx3OtXE6puzHMkQlqwgy5uLfnTsYVfwctkvJHn-B3T7n4m6FfpNXfnjIwbbQIvjQkayMA$ Nancy Cunard: Perfect Stranger by Jane Marcus; Edited and with an Introduction and Afterword by Jean Mills. 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URL: From millsj7 at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 19:34:32 2022 From: millsj7 at gmail.com (Jean Mills) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:34:32 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Quote source? In-Reply-To: <5CA08588CEC44D3CBF3B5CEFC5EB0BCA@StuartHP> References: <5CA08588CEC44D3CBF3B5CEFC5EB0BCA@StuartHP> Message-ID: I?m all for feminist uplift; it?s the lying so have a problem with! Thx for these posts. Jean Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Stuart N. Clarke wrote: > > ? > 10 Feb > What a deal of cold business doth a man mis-spend the better part of life in! in scattering compliments, tendering visits, gathering and venting news, following feasts and plays, making a little winter-love in a dark corner. (Ben Jonson, ?Timber or Discoveries?) > > 19 Feb > Our life is short and tedious, and in the death of man is no remedy: neither was there any man known to have returned from the grave. (Apocrypha, ?Wisdom of Solomon?) > > 7 March > ?He is an old bore, even the grave yawns for him.? (Beerbohm Tree, quoted in ?Max? by David Cecil) > > 10 March > For I must tell you that in private life I have no patience at all with lunatics. (Freud, Letter to Pfister) > > 30 March > There is no state in Europe where the least wise have not governed the most wise. (Landor, ?Rousseau and Malherbes?) > > 20 April > ?By God, God himself is not so busy that a homicidal maniac with only ten dollars in the world can hitchhike a hundred miles and buy a gun for ten dollars then hitchhike another hundred and shoot another man with it.? > ?Don?t that maybe depend on who God wants shot this time?? (Faulkner, ?The Mansion?) > > 23 May > What female heart can gold despise? > What Cat?s averse to fish? (Gray, ?Ode on the Death of a Favourite Cat?) > > 26 May > Many of the books which now crowd the world, may be justly suspected to be written for the sake of some invisible order of human beings, for surely they are of no use to any of the corporeal inhabitants in the world. (Johnson, Review of ?Free Enquiry into the Nature and Origin of Evil?) > > 11 June > Women are not by any means to blame when they reject the rules of life which have been introduced into the world, seeing that it is the men who made them without their consent. (Montaigne, ?Essays?) > > 10 Dec > Youth is a blunder; Manhood a struggle; Old Age a regret. (Disraeli, ?Coningsby?) > > > That?s quite enough! > Stuart > > > > From: Neverow, Vara S. > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:36 PM > To: Jean Mills ; Sarah M. Hall ; Stuart N. Clarke > Cc: Woolf list > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? > > Dear Stuart, > > Would you be willing to share a few snippets from Leonard's "A Calendar of Consolation"? I doubt that many Woolfians have a copy of that particular volume (but I suspect that you do have it and have it relatively handy). > > Vara > > Vara Neverow > (she/her/hers) > Professor, English Department and Women's and Gender Studies Program > Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany > Southern Connecticut State University > New Haven, CT 06515 > 203-392-6717 > neverowv1 at southernct.edu > > I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. > > Recent Publications: > Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) > > > From: Vwoolf on behalf of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 5:49 AM > To: Jean Mills ; Sarah M. Hall > Cc: Woolf list > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? > > I have been looking at the madey-uppy quotations and they tend towards (feminist) uplift, supposedly taken from Woolf?s essays and diaries. The list of web pages supplied by Sarah also suggests optimism. A bracing wave of reality is needed: ?Oh yes, he seemed to say, death is stronger than I am? (?The Death of the Moth?). See also Leonard?s ?A Calendar of Consolation: A Comforting Thought for Every Day in the Year" (1967). > > There is a lack of ?quotations? from Woolf?s novels. I have a print-out to hand with these that I sent to the listserv almost 10 years ago, so here they are again: > > From almost any Woolf novel: ?She turned from the china cabinet with a cup in her hand. The windows blazed. She was filled with rapture.? > > From ?The Years?: ?The bugles on her dress glittered in the candlelight. Was that the nineteenth century? Martin wondered. Was that all it was?? > > About another unwelcome visitor: ?. . . meretricious, cheap, hard, with ideas like a string of beads from Woolworths? (Diary). > > Stuart > > ?What can?t be cured must be endured? > > From: Jean Mills > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 10:18 PM > To: Sarah M. Hall > Cc: Stuart N. Clarke ; Woolf list > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? > > Thanks, all! what I don't understand is why isn't what she actually wrote (for example, on solitude, in I dunno, say in AROO, enough?) sheesh, the truthiness of it all is frightening. Anyway, thanks for the course correction. The author, Heather Hansen, was grateful for the confirmation. -Jean > > On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 6:37 PM Sarah M. Hall wrote: > Found on web pages going by the 'poetic' names of: > > The Soul Garden Pathway > The Empty Round Table > QuoteFancy > RelicsWorld > Curated Quotes > Gracious Quotes > > and, disappointingly, Huff Post. Nowhere scholarly or reputable that you would imagine actually checks their sources before publishing. Who has time for that? > > Another candidate for the Misquotations and Misattributions page, Stuart? (https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/resources/misquotations__;!!KGKeukY!2O9IyRIMiS-1P62Ul0qRw5YswcEv_iwE1nFVWRpj-4PVpi5g8bHf7Qoc6P0o0ZFYFWBJMm16cYB1z3AKeiA$ ) > > Sarah > > > Sarah M. Hall > Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB > Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk > Facebook: @VWSGB > Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB > Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety > > > > > > > On Saturday, 9 July 2022 at 07:25:39 BST, Jean Mills via Vwoolf wrote: > > > I think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the good intel which I will pass along. Jean > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: >> > >> ? > > Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed to Woolf? > > Stuart > > From: Jean Mills > Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM > To: Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke > Subject: Quote source? > > This query came from a friend doing research for a book on solitude: I've seen this quote widely attributed to her but cannot pinpoint the primary source: "In solitude we give passionate attention to our lives, to our memories, to the details around us." > > Any help? I?m traveling at the moment and away from my books :( with thanks for any lead, Jean > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > > -- > Jean Mills (she, her, hers) > Associate Professor > The Department of English > John Jay College/CUNY > 524 West 59th Street, Room 7.63.12 > New York, NY 10019 > > Selected Publications: > "Feminist Theory" in The Oxford Handbook of Virginia Woolf, ed. by Anne Fernald, Oxford University Press, 2021. > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780198811589.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780198811589__;!!KGKeukY!2O9IyRIMiS-1P62Ul0qRw5YswcEv_iwE1nFVWRpj-4PVpi5g8bHf7Qoc6P0o0ZFYFWBJMm16cYB118bvVEQ$ > > Nancy Cunard: Perfect Stranger by Jane Marcus; Edited and with an Introduction and Afterword by Jean Mills. Clemson University Press, Fall, 2020 > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://libraries.clemson.edu/press/books/nancy-cunard-perfect-stranger/__;!!KGKeukY!2O9IyRIMiS-1P62Ul0qRw5YswcEv_iwE1nFVWRpj-4PVpi5g8bHf7Qoc6P0o0ZFYFWBJMm16cYB1of5NeaE$ > > "'With every nerve in my body I stand for peace': Jane Ellen Harrison and the Heresy of War" in Reconsidering Peace and Patriotism during the First World War (Palgrave/Macmillan, 2017) > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.palgrave.com/de/book/9783319513003__;!!KGKeukY!2O9IyRIMiS-1P62Ul0qRw5YswcEv_iwE1nFVWRpj-4PVpi5g8bHf7Qoc6P0o0ZFYFWBJMm16cYB1h5yPUoo$ > > Virginia Woolf, Jane Ellen Harrison, and the Spirit of Modernist Classicism (The Ohio State University Press, 2014) > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ohiostatepress.org/Books/Book*20Pages/Mills*20Virginia.html__;JSU!!KGKeukY!2O9IyRIMiS-1P62Ul0qRw5YswcEv_iwE1nFVWRpj-4PVpi5g8bHf7Qoc6P0o0ZFYFWBJMm16cYB1qjxQJIM$ > > Associate Editor, Feminist Modernist Studies > > 212.237.8706 > JEMILLS at JJAY.CUNY.EDU > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidmeberly at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 19:44:34 2022 From: davidmeberly at gmail.com (David Eberly) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:44:34 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Quote source? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5329ABE1-3B90-4F6A-B4BD-69201EA4D928@gmail.com> Truly consoling - at least to me, David Sent from my iPad > On Jul 13, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Jean Mills via Vwoolf wrote: > > ? I?m all for feminist uplift; it?s the lying so have a problem with! Thx for these posts. Jean > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Jul 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Stuart N. Clarke wrote: >>> >> ? >> 10 Feb >> What a deal of cold business doth a man mis-spend the better part of life in! in scattering compliments, tendering visits, gathering and venting news, following feasts and plays, making a little winter-love in a dark corner. (Ben Jonson, ?Timber or Discoveries?) >> >> 19 Feb >> Our life is short and tedious, and in the death of man is no remedy: neither was there any man known to have returned from the grave. (Apocrypha, ?Wisdom of Solomon?) >> >> 7 March >> ?He is an old bore, even the grave yawns for him.? (Beerbohm Tree, quoted in ?Max? by David Cecil) >> >> 10 March >> For I must tell you that in private life I have no patience at all with lunatics. (Freud, Letter to Pfister) >> >> 30 March >> There is no state in Europe where the least wise have not governed the most wise. (Landor, ?Rousseau and Malherbes?) >> >> 20 April >> ?By God, God himself is not so busy that a homicidal maniac with only ten dollars in the world can hitchhike a hundred miles and buy a gun for ten dollars then hitchhike another hundred and shoot another man with it.? >> ?Don?t that maybe depend on who God wants shot this time?? (Faulkner, ?The Mansion?) >> >> 23 May >> What female heart can gold despise? >> What Cat?s averse to fish? (Gray, ?Ode on the Death of a Favourite Cat?) >> >> 26 May >> Many of the books which now crowd the world, may be justly suspected to be written for the sake of some invisible order of human beings, for surely they are of no use to any of the corporeal inhabitants in the world. (Johnson, Review of ?Free Enquiry into the Nature and Origin of Evil?) >> >> 11 June >> Women are not by any means to blame when they reject the rules of life which have been introduced into the world, seeing that it is the men who made them without their consent. (Montaigne, ?Essays?) >> >> 10 Dec >> Youth is a blunder; Manhood a struggle; Old Age a regret. (Disraeli, ?Coningsby?) >> >> >> That?s quite enough! >> Stuart >> >> >> >> From: Neverow, Vara S. >> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:36 PM >> To: Jean Mills ; Sarah M. Hall ; Stuart N. Clarke >> Cc: Woolf list >> Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? >> >> Dear Stuart, >> >> Would you be willing to share a few snippets from Leonard's "A Calendar of Consolation"? I doubt that many Woolfians have a copy of that particular volume (but I suspect that you do have it and have it relatively handy). >> >> Vara >> >> Vara Neverow >> (she/her/hers) >> Professor, English Department and Women's and Gender Studies Program >> Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany >> Southern Connecticut State University >> New Haven, CT 06515 >> 203-392-6717 >> neverowv1 at southernct.edu >> >> I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. >> >> Recent Publications: >> Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) >> >> >> From: Vwoolf on behalf of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf >> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 5:49 AM >> To: Jean Mills ; Sarah M. Hall >> Cc: Woolf list >> Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? >> >> I have been looking at the madey-uppy quotations and they tend towards (feminist) uplift, supposedly taken from Woolf?s essays and diaries. The list of web pages supplied by Sarah also suggests optimism. A bracing wave of reality is needed: ?Oh yes, he seemed to say, death is stronger than I am? (?The Death of the Moth?). See also Leonard?s ?A Calendar of Consolation: A Comforting Thought for Every Day in the Year" (1967). >> >> There is a lack of ?quotations? from Woolf?s novels. I have a print-out to hand with these that I sent to the listserv almost 10 years ago, so here they are again: >> >> From almost any Woolf novel: ?She turned from the china cabinet with a cup in her hand. The windows blazed. She was filled with rapture.? >> >> From ?The Years?: ?The bugles on her dress glittered in the candlelight. Was that the nineteenth century? Martin wondered. Was that all it was?? >> >> About another unwelcome visitor: ?. . . meretricious, cheap, hard, with ideas like a string of beads from Woolworths? (Diary). >> >> Stuart >> >> ?What can?t be cured must be endured? >> >> From: Jean Mills >> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 10:18 PM >> To: Sarah M. Hall >> Cc: Stuart N. Clarke ; Woolf list >> Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Quote source? >> >> Thanks, all! what I don't understand is why isn't what she actually wrote (for example, on solitude, in I dunno, say in AROO, enough?) sheesh, the truthiness of it all is frightening. Anyway, thanks for the course correction. The author, Heather Hansen, was grateful for the confirmation. -Jean >> >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 6:37 PM Sarah M. Hall wrote: >> Found on web pages going by the 'poetic' names of: >> >> The Soul Garden Pathway >> The Empty Round Table >> QuoteFancy >> RelicsWorld >> Curated Quotes >> Gracious Quotes >> >> and, disappointingly, Huff Post. Nowhere scholarly or reputable that you would imagine actually checks their sources before publishing. Who has time for that? >> >> Another candidate for the Misquotations and Misattributions page, Stuart? (https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/resources/misquotations__;!!KGKeukY!2x4p0id_Bi_AzB7v2OK_5eeVUEjtSWvJ-0J6XDbdFl4rpDyTc-L_7HULZekwCkgQkU57JzoOE8VX4cIhzpb9EF3o5w$ ) >> >> Sarah >> >> >> Sarah M. Hall >> Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB >> Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk >> Facebook: @VWSGB >> Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB >> Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, 9 July 2022 at 07:25:39 BST, Jean Mills via Vwoolf wrote: >> >> >> I think AROO in various quote-y thangs online, with names like libquote quotefancy azquotes ? ufff awful! So it?s invented, yes? Thx all for the good intel which I will pass along. Jean >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 8, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: >>> >> >>> ? >> >> Nothing to do with Woolf, as far I can see. Where has it been attributed to Woolf? >> >> Stuart >> >> From: Jean Mills >> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:31 PM >> To: Woolf list ; Stuart N. Clarke >> Subject: Quote source? >> >> This query came from a friend doing research for a book on solitude: I've seen this quote widely attributed to her but cannot pinpoint the primary source: "In solitude we give passionate attention to our lives, to our memories, to the details around us." >> >> Any help? I?m traveling at the moment and away from my books :( with thanks for any lead, Jean >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Vwoolf mailing list >> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >> _______________________________________________ >> Vwoolf mailing list >> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >> >> >> -- >> Jean Mills (she, her, hers) >> Associate Professor >> The Department of English >> John Jay College/CUNY >> 524 West 59th Street, Room 7.63.12 >> New York, NY 10019 >> >> Selected Publications: >> "Feminist Theory" in The Oxford Handbook of Virginia Woolf, ed. by Anne Fernald, Oxford University Press, 2021. >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780198811589.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780198811589__;!!KGKeukY!2x4p0id_Bi_AzB7v2OK_5eeVUEjtSWvJ-0J6XDbdFl4rpDyTc-L_7HULZekwCkgQkU57JzoOE8VX4cIhzpbTlOYs0Q$ >> >> Nancy Cunard: Perfect Stranger by Jane Marcus; Edited and with an Introduction and Afterword by Jean Mills. Clemson University Press, Fall, 2020 >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://libraries.clemson.edu/press/books/nancy-cunard-perfect-stranger/__;!!KGKeukY!2x4p0id_Bi_AzB7v2OK_5eeVUEjtSWvJ-0J6XDbdFl4rpDyTc-L_7HULZekwCkgQkU57JzoOE8VX4cIhzpatGg7Dyg$ >> >> "'With every nerve in my body I stand for peace': Jane Ellen Harrison and the Heresy of War" in Reconsidering Peace and Patriotism during the First World War (Palgrave/Macmillan, 2017) >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.palgrave.com/de/book/9783319513003__;!!KGKeukY!2x4p0id_Bi_AzB7v2OK_5eeVUEjtSWvJ-0J6XDbdFl4rpDyTc-L_7HULZekwCkgQkU57JzoOE8VX4cIhzpb7pVVBtA$ >> >> Virginia Woolf, Jane Ellen Harrison, and the Spirit of Modernist Classicism (The Ohio State University Press, 2014) >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ohiostatepress.org/Books/Book*20Pages/Mills*20Virginia.html__;JSU!!KGKeukY!2x4p0id_Bi_AzB7v2OK_5eeVUEjtSWvJ-0J6XDbdFl4rpDyTc-L_7HULZekwCkgQkU57JzoOE8VX4cIhzpaetzmdww$ >> >> Associate Editor, Feminist Modernist Studies >> >> 212.237.8706 >> JEMILLS at JJAY.CUNY.EDU >> > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just a > point in the right direction would be wonderful. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > I wonder, would anyone be able to help me locate a comprehensive > chronology of the lectures Woolf gave throughout her career? Just a > point in the right direction would be wonderful. > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!XxOpqFjIK0YoXexxS3oJ5hGDJw9iqjnWCcC8_CZCD8oQnnslANM9BhvTGPKRZkvAA9NZhezVJCpWF_NaQZc3tED7DA$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Jul 14 11:56:13 2022 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:56:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] A Chronology of Lectures? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1283050228.476981.1657814173557@mail.yahoo.com> Were there that many? On Morley College, there's QB1, Appx B; Passionate Apprentice. On Girton & Newnham lectures, editions of AROO. On all, diary and letters; good biogs such as Lee; some info in Ted Bishop's Chronology. There's also 'How Should One Read a Book?', lecture to Hayes Court School in Kent, 30 Jan 1926; see Essays 4 and her letters around that time. Sorry for the rushed notes! I'm sure that others on this list will be much more helpful, and may even be able to provide a single source. Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Thursday, 14 July 2022 at 15:40:12 BST, Oliver Case (Student) via Vwoolf wrote: I wonder, would anyone be able to help me locate a comprehensive chronology of the lectures Woolf gave throughout her career? Just a point in the right direction would be wonderful. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I wonder, would anyone be able to help me locate a comprehensive chronology of the lectures Woolf gave throughout her career? Just a point in the right direction would be wonderful.?_______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danelljones at bresnan.net Thu Jul 14 11:59:05 2022 From: danelljones at bresnan.net (danelljones at bresnan.net) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 09:59:05 -0600 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Chronology of Lectures? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01ac01d8979a$a631f800$f295e800$@bresnan.net> Do you know Edward Bishop?s A Virginia Woolf Chronology? That can be a helpful guide as well. Danell From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Oliver Case (Student) via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 8:40 AM To: VWOOLF listserv Subject: [Vwoolf] A Chronology of Lectures? I wonder, would anyone be able to help me locate a comprehensive chronology of the lectures Woolf gave throughout her career? Just a point in the right direction would be wonderful. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I wonder, would anyone be able to help me locate a comprehensive chronology of the lectures Woolf gave throughout her career? Just a point in the right direction would be wonderful. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.deGay at leedstrinity.ac.uk Thu Jul 14 12:05:08 2022 From: J.deGay at leedstrinity.ac.uk (Jane deGay) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 16:05:08 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Chronology of Lectures? In-Reply-To: <01ac01d8979a$a631f800$f295e800$@bresnan.net> References: <01ac01d8979a$a631f800$f295e800$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: Beth Daugherty?s long-awaited forthcoming book, Virginia Woolf?s Apprenticeship includes an appendix on Woolf?s lectures Virginia Woolf's Apprenticeship (edinburghuniversitypress.com). One to recommend for your University Library ? Best wishes Jane From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: 14 July 2022 16:59 To: 'Oliver Case (Student)' ; 'VWOOLF listserv' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Chronology of Lectures? Do you know Edward Bishop?s A Virginia Woolf Chronology? That can be a helpful guide as well. Danell From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Oliver Case (Student) via Vwoolf ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Do you know Edward Bishop?s A Virginia Woolf Chronology? That can be a helpful guide as well. Danell From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Oliver Case (Student) via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 8:40 AM To: VWOOLF listserv > Subject: [Vwoolf] A Chronology of Lectures? I wonder, would anyone be able to help me locate a comprehensive chronology of the lectures Woolf gave throughout her career? Just a point in the right direction would be wonderful. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I wonder, would anyone be able to help me locate a comprehensive chronology of the lectures Woolf gave throughout her career? Just a point in the right direction would be wonderful. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Thu Jul 14 12:47:40 2022 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 12:47:40 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Chronology of Lectures? In-Reply-To: References: <01ac01d8979a$a631f800$f295e800$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <009201d897a1$6f7cd350$4e7679f0$@verizon.net> Seconding Jane DeGay?s recommendation of Beth Daugherty?s forthcoming book for the most up-to-date research on Woolf?s lectures. Bishop?s Chronology is very useful but should be used cautiously as there are some errors. From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Jane deGay via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 12:05 PM To: danelljones at bresnan.net; 'Oliver Case (Student)' ; 'VWOOLF listserv' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Chronology of Lectures? Beth Daugherty?s long-awaited forthcoming book, Virginia Woolf?s Apprenticeship includes an appendix on Woolf?s lectures Virginia Woolf's Apprenticeship (edinburghuniversitypress.com). One to recommend for your University Library ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Beth Daugherty?s long-awaited forthcoming book, Virginia Woolf?s Apprenticeship includes an appendix on Woolf?s lectures Virginia Woolf's Apprenticeship (edinburghuniversitypress.com) . One to recommend for your University Library ? Best wishes Jane From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: 14 July 2022 16:59 To: 'Oliver Case (Student)' >; 'VWOOLF listserv' > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Chronology of Lectures? Do you know Edward Bishop?s A Virginia Woolf Chronology? That can be a helpful guide as well. Danell From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Oliver Case (Student) via Vwoolf ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Do you know Edward Bishop?s A Virginia Woolf Chronology? That can be a helpful guide as well. Danell From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Oliver Case (Student) via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 8:40 AM To: VWOOLF listserv > Subject: [Vwoolf] A Chronology of Lectures? I wonder, would anyone be able to help me locate a comprehensive chronology of the lectures Woolf gave throughout her career? Just a point in the right direction would be wonderful. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I wonder, would anyone be able to help me locate a comprehensive chronology of the lectures Woolf gave throughout her career? Just a point in the right direction would be wonderful. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deenm at newpaltz.edu Thu Jul 14 20:13:46 2022 From: deenm at newpaltz.edu (Stella Deen) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 00:13:46 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner Message-ID: Dear All: I wonder why the sixth of Woolf's London Scene Essays, "Portrait of a Londoner" is persistently said to have been lost until re-discovered in 2004 at the University of Sussex? I have not done any research in the archive, sadly, and perhaps the answer is that "Portrait of a Londoner" was not filed with the other manuscripts in the series. 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See also notes 1 to each of the essays in ?Essays? vol. 5 for the location of the proofs etc that are extant. See also the correspondence below from Woolf_Studies_Annual, 11 (2006): 1-2. Stuart From: Stella Deen via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 1:13 AM To: VWOOLF Subject: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner Dear All: I wonder why the sixth of Woolf's London Scene Essays, "Portrait of a Londoner" is persistently said to have been lost until re-discovered in 2004 at the University of Sussex? I have not done any research in the archive, Dear All: I wonder why the sixth of Woolf's London Scene Essays, "Portrait of a Londoner" is persistently said to have been lost until re-discovered in 2004 at the University of Sussex? I have not done any research in the archive, sadly, and perhaps the answer is that "Portrait of a Londoner" was not filed with the other manuscripts in the series. 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In-Reply-To: <009201d897a1$6f7cd350$4e7679f0$@verizon.net> References: <01ac01d8979a$a631f800$f295e800$@bresnan.net> <009201d897a1$6f7cd350$4e7679f0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Thank you all for these suggestions, all very useful! I'll certainly be recommending Beth Daugherty's upcoming volume to the library curators. Woolfish wishes, Ollie ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: 14 July 2022 17:47 To: 'VWOOLF listserv' Subject: [External] - Re: [Vwoolf] A Chronology of Lectures? Seconding Jane DeGay?s recommendation of Beth Daugherty?s forthcoming book for the most up-to-date research on Woolf?s lectures. Bishop?s Chronology is very useful but should be used cautiously as there are some errors. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Seconding Jane DeGay?s recommendation of Beth Daugherty?s forthcoming book for the most up-to-date research on Woolf?s lectures. Bishop?s Chronology is very useful but should be used cautiously as there are some errors. From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Jane deGay via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 12:05 PM To: danelljones at bresnan.net; 'Oliver Case (Student)' ; 'VWOOLF listserv' Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Chronology of Lectures? Beth Daugherty?s long-awaited forthcoming book, Virginia Woolf?s Apprenticeship includes an appendix on Woolf?s lectures Virginia Woolf's Apprenticeship (edinburghuniversitypress.com). One to recommend for your University Library ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Beth Daugherty?s long-awaited forthcoming book, Virginia Woolf?s Apprenticeship includes an appendix on Woolf?s lectures Virginia Woolf's Apprenticeship (edinburghuniversitypress.com). One to recommend for your University Library ? Best wishes Jane From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: 14 July 2022 16:59 To: 'Oliver Case (Student)' >; 'VWOOLF listserv' > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Chronology of Lectures? Do you know Edward Bishop?s A Virginia Woolf Chronology? That can be a helpful guide as well. Danell From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Oliver Case (Student) via Vwoolf ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Do you know Edward Bishop?s A Virginia Woolf Chronology? That can be a helpful guide as well. Danell From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Oliver Case (Student) via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 8:40 AM To: VWOOLF listserv > Subject: [Vwoolf] A Chronology of Lectures? I wonder, would anyone be able to help me locate a comprehensive chronology of the lectures Woolf gave throughout her career? Just a point in the right direction would be wonderful. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I wonder, would anyone be able to help me locate a comprehensive chronology of the lectures Woolf gave throughout her career? Just a point in the right direction would be wonderful. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Fri Jul 15 08:30:32 2022 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 08:30:32 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002701d89846$adb9b070$092d1150$@verizon.net> I wasn?t aware that ?Portrait of a Londoner? had ever been considered ?lost??perhaps that was just an assumption made because it wasn?t included when Frank Hallman (or ?Hallam? as the notes to the Snowbooks edition incorrectly has it) made his edition of The London Scene, the one that was later reprinted by Hogarth. That Francine Prose is the source of the canard isn?t surprising, given what a hash she made of her account of the genesis of Mrs. Dalloway when she introduced the Mrs Dalloway Reader (a volume published to cash in on the success of The Hours). With Beth Daugherty?s prompting, I tidied up and corrected Prose?s prose for the paperback edition. Sigh. Celebrity authors are probably good for publishers but not so much for scholarship. From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:56 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner I am not aware of how ?persistently? this canard has been repeated, but it seems to originate in Francine Prose?s intro. to the NY: Ecco (HarperCollins) edition (& see the dust-jacket) of n.d. (2006): ?her lost ?Portrait of a Londoner? I am not aware of how ?persistently? this canard has been repeated, but it seems to originate in Francine Prose?s intro. to the NY: Ecco (HarperCollins) edition (& see the dust-jacket) of n.d. (2006): ?her lost ?Portrait of a Londoner? essay, rediscovered in 2004 by British publisher Emma Cahill in the University of Sussex archive? (p. xiii). See also notes 1 to each of the essays in ?Essays? vol. 5 for the location of the proofs etc that are extant. See also the correspondence below from Woolf_Studies_Annual, 11 (2006): 1-2. Stuart From: Stella Deen via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 1:13 AM To: VWOOLF Subject: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner Dear All: I wonder why the sixth of Woolf's London Scene Essays, "Portrait of a Londoner" is persistently said to have been lost until re-discovered in 2004 at the University of Sussex? I have not done any research in the archive, Dear All: I wonder why the sixth of Woolf's London Scene Essays, "Portrait of a Londoner" is persistently said to have been lost until re-discovered in 2004 at the University of Sussex? I have not done any research in the archive, sadly, and perhaps the answer is that "Portrait of a Londoner" was not filed with the other manuscripts in the series. But since the essay was duly published in Good Housekeeping (in December 1932), preceded by the other London Scene essays, was it really "lost"? Stella Deen (she/her) Interim Chair, Communication Studies Associate Professor of English CSB 50 State University of New York at New Paltz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 204585 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 183487 bytes Desc: not available URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Fri Jul 15 09:02:33 2022 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 13:02:33 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner In-Reply-To: <002701d89846$adb9b070$092d1150$@verizon.net> References: <002701d89846$adb9b070$092d1150$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Sigh. Isn't it mostly an "American" thing ... the assumption on the part of the publishers that authors like Frances Prose and Michael Cunningham and various other "creative" writers are more likely to spark interest (and boost sales) in their introductions than "dull" scholars? Mark's successful effort to persuade Harcourt to ... gasp! ... allow academics to write the introductions to Woolf's works that were still in copyright was absolutely radical--and extremely rare. Cunningham continues to spew his questionable "insights" about Mrs. Dalloway. And Mark's recent review of five editions of Mrs. Dalloway in Issue 98 of the Miscellany documents the problems that frequently emerge in non-scholarly editions. Is it possible that the "lost" London Scene essay was omitted intentionally in the 1975 version because it was somewhat different in style from the others? Was it just sloppy--a failure to include the last essay because it was overlooked? Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women?s and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 8:30:32 AM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner I wasn?t aware that ?Portrait of a Londoner? had ever been considered ?lost??perhaps that was just an assumption made because it wasn?t included when Frank Hallman (or ?Hallam? as the notes to the Snowbooks edition incorrectly has it) made I wasn?t aware that ?Portrait of a Londoner? had ever been considered ?lost??perhaps that was just an assumption made because it wasn?t included when Frank Hallman (or ?Hallam? as the notes to the Snowbooks edition incorrectly has it) made his edition of The London Scene, the one that was later reprinted by Hogarth. That Francine Prose is the source of the canard isn?t surprising, given what a hash she made of her account of the genesis of Mrs. Dalloway when she introduced the Mrs Dalloway Reader (a volume published to cash in on the success of The Hours). With Beth Daugherty?s prompting, I tidied up and corrected Prose?s prose for the paperback edition. Sigh. Celebrity authors are probably good for publishers but not so much for scholarship. From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:56 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner I am not aware of how ?persistently? this canard has been repeated, but it seems to originate in Francine Prose?s intro. to the NY: Ecco (HarperCollins) edition (& see the dust-jacket) of n.d. (2006): ?her lost ?Portrait of a Londoner? I am not aware of how ?persistently? this canard has been repeated, but it seems to originate in Francine Prose?s intro. to the NY: Ecco (HarperCollins) edition (& see the dust-jacket) of n.d. (2006): ?her lost ?Portrait of a Londoner? essay, rediscovered in 2004 by British publisher Emma Cahill in the University of Sussex archive? (p. xiii). See also notes 1 to each of the essays in ?Essays? vol. 5 for the location of the proofs etc that are extant. See also the correspondence below from Woolf_Studies_Annual, 11 (2006): 1-2. Stuart From: Stella Deen via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 1:13 AM To: VWOOLF Subject: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner Dear All: I wonder why the sixth of Woolf's London Scene Essays, "Portrait of a Londoner" is persistently said to have been lost until re-discovered in 2004 at the University of Sussex? I have not done any research in the archive, Dear All: I wonder why the sixth of Woolf's London Scene Essays, "Portrait of a Londoner" is persistently said to have been lost until re-discovered in 2004 at the University of Sussex? I have not done any research in the archive, sadly, and perhaps the answer is that "Portrait of a Londoner" was not filed with the other manuscripts in the series. But since the essay was duly published in Good Housekeeping (in December 1932), preceded by the other London Scene essays, was it really "lost"? Stella Deen (she/her) Interim Chair, Communication Studies Associate Professor of English CSB 50 State University of New York at New Paltz [image] [image] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 204585 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 183487 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From deenm at newpaltz.edu Fri Jul 15 09:24:23 2022 From: deenm at newpaltz.edu (Stella Deen) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 13:24:23 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Stuart: Thank you so much for providing this interesting textual history of the six essays. It is also interesting that the sixth essay was re-discovered both in 1980 and in 2004! I am very glad to know about Jeannette's two-part analysis, which I have just procured and am looking forward to reading. Since there is so much interest now in the periodical codes that inform the original reading of an essay published in a magazine, it's great that Jeannette's piece (and, I gather, Kirkpatrick's bibliography) enable readers to find the essays in Good Housekeeping if they are within reach of the British Library. All best, Stella Deen (she/her) Interim Chair, Communication Studies Associate Professor of English CSB 50 State University of New York at New Paltz ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:56 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner CAUTION: Message from a non-New Paltz email server. Treat message, links, and attachments with extra caution. I am not aware of how ?persistently? this canard has been repeated, but it seems to originate in Francine Prose?s intro. to the NY: Ecco (HarperCollins) edition (& see the dust-jacket) of n.d. (2006): ?her lost ?Portrait of a Londoner? I am not aware of how ?persistently? this canard has been repeated, but it seems to originate in Francine Prose?s intro. to the NY: Ecco (HarperCollins) edition (& see the dust-jacket) of n.d. (2006): ?her lost ?Portrait of a Londoner? essay, rediscovered in 2004 by British publisher Emma Cahill in the University of Sussex archive? (p. xiii). See also notes 1 to each of the essays in ?Essays? vol. 5 for the location of the proofs etc that are extant. See also the correspondence below from Woolf_Studies_Annual, 11 (2006): 1-2. Stuart From: Stella Deen via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 1:13 AM To: VWOOLF Subject: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner Dear All: I wonder why the sixth of Woolf's London Scene Essays, "Portrait of a Londoner" is persistently said to have been lost until re-discovered in 2004 at the University of Sussex? I have not done any research in the archive, Dear All: I wonder why the sixth of Woolf's London Scene Essays, "Portrait of a Londoner" is persistently said to have been lost until re-discovered in 2004 at the University of Sussex? I have not done any research in the archive, sadly, and perhaps the answer is that "Portrait of a Londoner" was not filed with the other manuscripts in the series. But since the essay was duly published in Good Housekeeping (in December 1932), preceded by the other London Scene essays, was it really "lost"? 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Clarke) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 14:59:05 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner In-Reply-To: <62BD123A02EC1759@sa-prd-rgin-018.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net> (added by postmaster@btinternet.com) References: <002701d89846$adb9b070$092d1150$@verizon.net> <62BD123A02EC1759@sa-prd-rgin-018.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net> (added by postmaster@btinternet.com) Message-ID: Vara is asking: conspiracy or cock-up? Jeanette McVicker believed/believes the former. (1) Hallman (1975) could not have known of the 6th essay, as that discovery was the result of BJK?s efforts for her 1980 edn. The 1982 reprints were REPRINTS of Hallman, not a resetting. Why should the publishers be hunting around for another essay? (2) McVicker says that she can only presume that Quentin and Angelica were aware of the 6th essay. This seems odd to me. She is portraying them as like me! How excited I was when the 1980 edn came out, how relieved that ?Portrait of a Londoner? was included (for I felt guilty at not having written to BJK about it), how thrilled to find my name in the acknowledgements, and how I pored over it, looking for the additions to the 1967 edn that had made it into the 1980! I don?t suppose Angelica even had a copy of the Bibliography. Would Quentin have been leafing through, looking for additional essays in Section C? BJK was a modest person: she found very many unidentified Woolf essays for inclusion in the four editions of her Bibliography, but she didn?t trumpet her findings ? as we do now, because finding something new is so rare. Stuart From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 2:02 PM To: mhussey at verizon.net ; 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner [snip] Is it possible that the "lost" London Scene essay was omitted intentionally in the 1975 version because it was somewhat different in style from the others? Was it just sloppy--a failure to include the last essay because it was overlooked? Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women?s and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vwoolf on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 8:30:32 AM To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner I wasn?t aware that ?Portrait of a Londoner? had ever been considered ?lost??perhaps that was just an assumption made because it wasn?t included when Frank Hallman (or ?Hallam? as the notes to the Snowbooks edition incorrectly has it) made I wasn?t aware that ?Portrait of a Londoner? had ever been considered ?lost??perhaps that was just an assumption made because it wasn?t included when Frank Hallman (or ?Hallam? as the notes to the Snowbooks edition incorrectly has it) made his edition of The London Scene, the one that was later reprinted by Hogarth. That Francine Prose is the source of the canard isn?t surprising, given what a hash she made of her account of the genesis of Mrs. Dalloway when she introduced the Mrs Dalloway Reader (a volume published to cash in on the success of The Hours). With Beth Daugherty?s prompting, I tidied up and corrected Prose?s prose for the paperback edition. Sigh. Celebrity authors are probably good for publishers but not so much for scholarship. From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:56 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner I am not aware of how ?persistently? this canard has been repeated, but it seems to originate in Francine Prose?s intro. to the NY: Ecco (HarperCollins) edition (& see the dust-jacket) of n.d. (2006): ?her lost ?Portrait of a Londoner? I am not aware of how ?persistently? this canard has been repeated, but it seems to originate in Francine Prose?s intro. to the NY: Ecco (HarperCollins) edition (& see the dust-jacket) of n.d. (2006): ?her lost ?Portrait of a Londoner? essay, rediscovered in 2004 by British publisher Emma Cahill in the University of Sussex archive? (p. xiii). See also notes 1 to each of the essays in ?Essays? vol. 5 for the location of the proofs etc that are extant. See also the correspondence below from Woolf_Studies_Annual, 11 (2006): 1-2. Stuart From: Stella Deen via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 1:13 AM To: VWOOLF Subject: [Vwoolf] Portrait of a Londoner Dear All: I wonder why the sixth of Woolf's London Scene Essays, "Portrait of a Londoner" is persistently said to have been lost until re-discovered in 2004 at the University of Sussex? I have not done any research in the archive, Dear All: I wonder why the sixth of Woolf's London Scene Essays, "Portrait of a Londoner" is persistently said to have been lost until re-discovered in 2004 at the University of Sussex? I have not done any research in the archive, sadly, and perhaps the answer is that "Portrait of a Londoner" was not filed with the other manuscripts in the series. But since the essay was duly published in Good Housekeeping (in December 1932), preceded by the other London Scene essays, was it really "lost"? Stella Deen (she/her) Interim Chair, Communication Studies Associate Professor of English CSB 50 State University of New York at New Paltz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 204585 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 183487 bytes Desc: not available URL: From peteradkins349 at gmail.com Fri Jul 15 11:30:25 2022 From: peteradkins349 at gmail.com (Peter Adkins) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 16:30:25 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Special Issue on Virginia Woolf and Rosi Braidotti Message-ID: Dear Fellow Woolfians, I would like to draw your attention to the recent publication of a special issue of *Comparative Critical Studies *entitled 'Reading Woolf / Reading Braidotti' edited by Ruth Clemens, Derek Ryan and myself. The issue includes a new essay on Woolf by Braidotti, as well as essays by Jeff Wallace, Benjamin Hagen, Carrie Rohman, Caitlin Stobie, Ruth Clemens and myself. Those of you who attended the 2018 Annual International Conference on Virginia Woolf at the University of Kent in Canterbury might recognise the journal's contents! Rosi's essay is based on the keynote she delivered at that event and all of the essays started life as papers at the conference. The issue is dedicated to the memory of Laura Marcus, who was one of the keynote respondents to Rosi's lecture and was going to write an afterword for the issue. Best wishes, Peter Contents: 1. Guest Editors' Introduction: Reading Braidotti / Reading Woolf by Peter Adkins, Ruth Alison Clemens and Derek Ryan 2. Virginia Woolf, Immanence and Ontological Pacifism by Rosi Braidotti 3. The Inhuman Death of Rachel Vinrace by Jeff Wallace 4. Woolfian Love in Aggregate: Posthuman ? Queer ? Feminist by Benjamin Hagen 5. Wolves Like to Wander Around: Nomadic, Distal, and Unfurling Forces in Maclear and Arsenault's Virginia Wolf by Carrie Rohman 6. The Mirrored Monster and Becoming-Wolf: Reflections on Desire in Woolf and Braidotti by Caitlin Stobie 7. The Climate of *Orlando*: Woolf, Braidotti and the Anthropocene by Peter Adkins 8. ?Languages are so like their boots?: Linguistic Incompossibility in *Flush *by Ruth Clemens -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From everyheartonbroadway at gmail.com Fri Jul 15 16:26:41 2022 From: everyheartonbroadway at gmail.com (Graham Borland) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 21:26:41 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Special Issue on Virginia Woolf and Rosi Braidotti In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What a fantastic issue, with a fantastic list of contributors! Very excited to read this. Congratulations to all involved. Graham On Fri 15 Jul 2022 at 4:30 p.m., Peter Adkins via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Dear Fellow Woolfians, I would like to draw your attention to the recent > publication of a special issue of Comparative Critical Studies entitled > 'Reading Woolf / Reading Braidotti' edited by Ruth Clemens, Derek Ryan and > myself. The > Dear Fellow Woolfians, > > I would like to draw your attention to the recent publication of a special > issue of *Comparative Critical Studies *entitled 'Reading Woolf / Reading > Braidotti' > > edited by Ruth Clemens, Derek Ryan and myself. The issue includes a new > essay on Woolf by Braidotti, as well as essays by Jeff Wallace, Benjamin > Hagen, Carrie Rohman, Caitlin Stobie, Ruth Clemens and myself. > > Those of you who attended the 2018 Annual International Conference on > Virginia Woolf at the University of Kent in Canterbury might recognise the > journal's contents! Rosi's essay is based on the keynote she delivered at > that event and all of the essays started life as papers at the conference. > The issue is dedicated to the memory of Laura Marcus, who was one of the > keynote respondents to Rosi's lecture and was going to write an afterword > for the issue. > > Best wishes, > Peter > > Contents: > > > 1. Guest Editors' Introduction: Reading Braidotti / Reading Woolf by > Peter Adkins, Ruth Alison Clemens and Derek Ryan > 2. Virginia Woolf, Immanence and Ontological Pacifism by Rosi Braidotti > 3. The Inhuman Death of Rachel Vinrace by Jeff Wallace > 4. Woolfian Love in Aggregate: Posthuman ? Queer ? Feminist by > Benjamin Hagen > 5. Wolves Like to Wander Around: Nomadic, Distal, and Unfurling Forces > in Maclear and Arsenault's Virginia Wolf by Carrie Rohman > 6. The Mirrored Monster and Becoming-Wolf: Reflections on Desire in > Woolf and Braidotti by Caitlin Stobie > 7. The Climate of *Orlando*: Woolf, Braidotti and the Anthropocene by > Peter Adkins > 8. ?Languages are so like their boots?: Linguistic Incompossibility in *Flush > *by Ruth Clemens > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -- Graham Borland ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com Tue Jul 19 14:39:45 2022 From: stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com (Stuart N. Clarke) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2022 19:39:45 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] "foaming" Message-ID: An Australian friend visited me recently and remarked on the remarkable number (to her) of window-boxes and hanging baskets she had noticed in Wales and England. ?And leaning down over a foaming window-box, one [young man] stopped another hurrying past, and upstairs they went and down they went, until a sort of fulness settled on the [Trinity] court ...? (JR, ch. 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Clarke via Vwoolf a ?crit : > > ? > An Australian friend visited me recently and remarked on the remarkable number (to her) of window-boxes and hanging baskets she had noticed in Wales and England. > > ?And leaning down over a foaming window-box, one [young man] stopped another hurrying past, and upstairs they went and down they went, until a sort of fulness settled on the [Trinity] court ...? (JR, ch. III) > > The poetical word ?foaming? suggests to me that the window-box is overflowing with WHITE flowers. > > Below are two photos from our local garden centre: the first (which is not a window-box) is not overflowing, but the second (the hanging basket) could perhaps be described as ?foaming?. > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A few more items (YouTube etc) hastily posted on my (makeshift!) Twitter account @boisset_mc incl. The sale of the Woolf's house in Richmond, VW & Cassis, etc. Hope this will help/be of interest to someone Thank you! With best wishes :-) mc Marie Claire Boisset Pestourie Translations Address 2 rue Traversi?re, 19100 Brive-La-Gaillarde, France Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> Email mc at clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In 1921 Leonard and VW published a volume of his poetry at the Hogarth Press. Does anyone have any information on the ?previously unpublished correspondence?? Stay safe?. Karen Levenback Sent from my iPad From emily.kopley at gmail.com Wed Jul 27 10:14:41 2022 From: emily.kopley at gmail.com (Emily Kopley) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 10:14:41 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] essay on JR at OUPblog Message-ID: Hi All, An essay of mine on *Jacob's Room* is now up at the OUPblog, here. Also, for those without library access, OUP has just made my book chapter on *A Room of One's Own* available publicly til the end of the year, here . Best, Emily -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jul 27 11:44:30 2022 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 15:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] essay on JR at OUPblog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1311300610.4234867.1658936670891@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Emily, these are fantastic resources. Thanks to OUP too! Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Wednesday, 27 July 2022 at 15:15:47 BST, Emily Kopley via Vwoolf wrote: Hi All, An essay of mine on Jacob's Room?is now up at the OUPblog, here. Also, for those without library access, OUP has just made my book chapter on?A Room of One's Own?available publicly til the end of the year,?here. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Hi All, An essay of mine on Jacob's Room?is now up at the OUPblog, here. Also, for those without library access, OUP has just made my book chapter on?A Room of One's Own?available publicly til the end of the year,?here. 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In-Reply-To: <063b01d8a2ad$bf7e0a60$3e7a1f20$@bresnan.net> References: <063b01d8a2ad$bf7e0a60$3e7a1f20$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <682CDE78A9EF45C291C7C7A311CD69C2@StuartHP> Who can blame Danell for refusing to check the online catalogue at The Keep? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thekeep.info/collections/keep-partners/university-of-sussex-special-collections/the-monks-house-papers-virginia-woolf-papers/__;!!KGKeukY!wzVjDnwhQ96KgwNQBz_hZEihVFLlivkZSTaAqf8dw8C9FFpPMyLOdufAoi-gzAKokbLIUQ0Y1cnkfhAM8V4Xw6cUMqU36QZjAg$ It operates on the hierarchical system. Once you?ve found what you?re looking for, you?re so far down the the hierarchy, you feel you?ll never get up again. It makes one wonder if the word ?rebarbative? had been especially invented for the system. Of course, when you get to The Keep, you?re using exactly the same system. If you can?t find it in the online cat., then you?re unlikely to find it in real life, in real time, at The Keep itself. But really, it?s just a matter of practice: you have to practice thinking like a computer, not a human being. One word of advice of advice ? have some Panadol to hand ? you?ll need it. Stuart From: Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:13 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Unpublished Memoir by Violet? Has anyone heard of an unpublished memoir of the Stephen Family by Violet Dickinson in the Monks House Papers? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 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Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: Who can blame Danell for refusing to check the online catalogue at The Keep? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thekeep.info/collections/keep-partners/university-of-sussex-special-collections/the-monks-house-papers-virginia-woolf-papers/__;!!KGKeukY!0n59xzGDtahPxlRnBPNfbWHELZvpzL5e6MIwi05OsCdaMVWmH54EQB0bGbjqoNRi4LHbCfeGq1HjfLk2lXdisQ$ It operates on the hierarchicalWho can blame Danell for refusing to check the online catalogue at The Keep?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thekeep.info/collections/keep-partners/university-of-sussex-special-collections/the-monks-house-papers-virginia-woolf-papers/__;!!KGKeukY!0n59xzGDtahPxlRnBPNfbWHELZvpzL5e6MIwi05OsCdaMVWmH54EQB0bGbjqoNRi4LHbCfeGq1HjfLk2lXdisQ$ ?It operates on the hierarchical system.? Once you?ve found what you?re looking for, you?re so far down the the hierarchy, you feel you?ll never get up again.? It makes one wonder if the word ?rebarbative? had been especially invented for the system.? Of course, when you get to The Keep, you?re using exactly the same system.? If you can?t find it in the online cat., then you?re unlikely to find it in real life, in real time, at The Keep itself.?But really, it?s just a matter of practice: you have to practice thinking like a computer, not a human being.? One word of advice of advice ? have some Panadol to hand ? you?ll need it.?Stuart??From: Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:13 PMTo: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Unpublished Memoir by Violet??Has anyone heard of an unpublished memoir of the Stephen Family by Violet Dickinson in the Monks House Papers? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Has anyone heard of an unpublished memoir of the Stephen Family by Violet Dickinson in the Monks House Papers? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danelljones at bresnan.net Fri Jul 29 08:27:02 2022 From: danelljones at bresnan.net (danelljones at bresnan.net) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 06:27:02 -0600 Subject: [Vwoolf] Unpublished Memoir by Violet? In-Reply-To: <682CDE78A9EF45C291C7C7A311CD69C2@StuartHP> References: <063b01d8a2ad$bf7e0a60$3e7a1f20$@bresnan.net> <682CDE78A9EF45C291C7C7A311CD69C2@StuartHP> Message-ID: <06e801d8a346$82edcb50$88c961f0$@bresnan.net> You are so right about the Keep! I did go to the catalogue but could find nothing. Clearly, I had not adequately dosed my Panadol.? From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 3:00 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Unpublished Memoir by Violet? Who can blame Danell for refusing to check the online catalogue at The Keep? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thekeep.info/collections/keep-partners/university-of-sussex-special-collections/the-monks-house-papers-virginia-woolf-papers/__;!!KGKeukY!wcmn49LTU6Ea9ARFaIMx3etht4Q4m-laR6g3s6Imm2HHLgKBeHRLPvAYZZqLF_8QloVHi1H_BoE2EVY5WG7B7seYEQ$ It operates on the hierarchical Who can blame Danell for refusing to check the online catalogue at The Keep? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thekeep.info/collections/keep-partners/university-of-sussex-special-collections/the-monks-house-papers-virginia-woolf-papers/__;!!KGKeukY!wcmn49LTU6Ea9ARFaIMx3etht4Q4m-laR6g3s6Imm2HHLgKBeHRLPvAYZZqLF_8QloVHi1H_BoE2EVY5WG7B7seYEQ$ It operates on the hierarchical system. Once you?ve found what you?re looking for, you?re so far down the the hierarchy, you feel you?ll never get up again. It makes one wonder if the word ?rebarbative? had been especially invented for the system. Of course, when you get to The Keep, you?re using exactly the same system. If you can?t find it in the online cat., then you?re unlikely to find it in real life, in real time, at The Keep itself. But really, it?s just a matter of practice: you have to practice thinking like a computer, not a human being. One word of advice of advice ? have some Panadol to hand ? you?ll need it. Stuart From: Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:13 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Unpublished Memoir by Violet? Has anyone heard of an unpublished memoir of the Stephen Family by Violet Dickinson in the Monks House Papers? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Has anyone heard of an unpublished memoir of the Stephen Family by Violet Dickinson in the Monks House Papers? _____ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com Sun Jul 31 05:17:46 2022 From: stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com (Stuart N. Clarke) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 10:17:46 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] They're a' oot o' step but oor Jock Message-ID: <2D8AA85F43C24083A72142CADAFC88FD@StuartHP> I recently read this article: NASH, John, "Exhibiting the Example: Virginia Woolf's Shoes", Twentieth_Century_Literature, 2013, LIX,2:283-308 ?My focus is on Night and Day, Jacob?s Room and the essays and reviews of literary tourism (or literary geography, as she also called it). ?In these works, Woolf often associates shoes with particular museological contexts so that they become for her a kind of shorthand by which she questions practices of exhibition and exemplification?issues that go to the heart of her career-long concern with modes of representation and perception. Shoes feature less as personal memorials (heavy with the weight of pathos) and more as figures in a narrative mode which foregrounds the selection, artifice, and experience of the exhibited example.? The author certainly knows his Woolf. When we come to ND: ?jadedness and disaffection now define Katharine?s relationship with the great men of the past; this time it is the visitor, an ?American lady who had come to be shown the relics? (331), who singles out the slippers. ??What! His very own slippers!? Laying aside the manuscript, she hastily grasped the old shoes, and remained for a moment dumb in contemplation of them? (333). The writers? shoes have become the focus of a satire on the ?sentimental journeys? (?Howarth? 5) of the literary tourist?s ?dumb? admiration and despoiling ?grasp.?? The scene is sufficiently extensive, providing enough material for us to discuss/argue about Woolf?s ?real? views about the relics of the dead. So, the scene can arguably fit the author?s contention. However, when we come to ?Jacob?s Room?, all we have is: ??What am I to do with these, Mr. Bonamy?? ?She held out a pair of Jacob?s old shoes.? These are the last 2 lines of the book There isn?t an immediate Woolfian context for interpretation, except the whole book. The reader may be puzzled, of course. Jacques-?mile Blanche recounted that while staying at the Belgrave Hotel in London in 1925: ?I had left some of my papers and books in the reading-room when I was called away to answer a telephone call. [. . .] When I returned I found two women turning over the pages of a book that belonged to me. One of them was saying to the other: ?Can you make anything of it? Have you heard of the writer? It really makes you think you?ve gone off your head! Was that boy Jacob killed in the War? And what?s all that about *boots*?? Nonetheless, critics are generally agreed that this is a moment of pathos, or, as Nash puts it, there is ?a long critical history in Woolf studies which emphasizes metonymy and pathos in the closing scene.? He specifically names Bill Brown, Alex Zwerdling, Laura Marcus, and Robert Reginio. Instead, he argues ?against this critical consensus ... Instead, this essay asks *why* shoes came to seem so important to Woolf and finds the answer in her critique of literary tourism.? This is all very well, but no one reading JR for even the umpteenth time could possibly deduce from the text that when Mrs Flanders asks, ?What am I to do with these, Mr. Bonamy??, there could possibly be a hidden critique of ?museology?. You may use JR as yet another example of Woolf?s fascination with shoes and boots, but it is absurd to gainsay the pathos of the last 2 lines of the novel. You don?t have to be persuaded by the pathos, but what can be intended by Woolf except some form of pathos? Stuart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeremy.hawthorn at ntnu.no Sun Jul 31 06:36:50 2022 From: jeremy.hawthorn at ntnu.no (Jeremy Hawthorn) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 10:36:50 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] shoes Message-ID: And then there is Mr Ramsay, tying Lily's shoe-laces and she praising his boots ... I remember reading that those exploring the wreck of the Titanic discovered shoes, in pairs, on the sea-bed. The bodies of their owners had decayed away, but shoes, as a result of the tanning process, survived. A pair of shoes is immensely personal: we do not generally share shoes, and their design tells us something about the taste of their owner. The piles of bodies discovered in liberated concentration camps convey little about the victims' individuality, but I remember looking at a pile of shoes preserved in the Majdanek camp and feeling overwhelmed by the sense they gave of individual owners, each a precious and irreplaceable life, each pair bearing witness to an choice made by someone for themselves or for another. There are actually more shoes in JR. An electronic search throws up Fanny Elmer's silver-buckled shoes and her shoes with red tassels, Bonamy's "amazement at an existence squeezed and emasculated within a white satin shoe," and unfortunate Julia who leaves her shoe laces untied (no Mr Ramsay to come to her aid, alas). Jakob's shoes are mentioned twice before the two final lines of the novel. "The light drenched Jacob from head to toe. You could see the pattern on his trousers; the old thorns on his stick; his shoe laces; bare hands; and face." "And what I should like would be to get out among the fields, sit down and hear the grasshoppers, and take up a handful of earth - Italian earth, as this is Italian dust upon my shoes." Jeremy H -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfroula at northwestern.edu Sun Jul 31 07:09:12 2022 From: cfroula at northwestern.edu (Christine Froula) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 07:09:12 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] They're a' oot o' step but oor Jock In-Reply-To: <2D8AA85F43C24083A72142CADAFC88FD@StuartHP> References: <2D8AA85F43C24083A72142CADAFC88FD@StuartHP> Message-ID: <22d94af4-fcfd-9716-c7ab-2566acc9091b@northwestern.edu> Many thanks for your wonderful post, Stuart, so thoughtful and thought-provoking in regard to connections between private memorializing by way of relics left by the deceased and museum curation. Similar questions come into play in both domains at their respective scales: what to keep? what to toss? what to give away? what to show? what to pass on? In both domains, those who remember and value the deceased selectively invest meaning and value in objects that evoke the (natural; existential; human; social) time lived and experienced by the dead, with ND providing a hinge between them in depicting public (readers, historians, citizens, etc) and private (family, friends, heirs, etc) memories/memorials/sentimental journeys. Ditto for JR to the extent that the book itself is a public/published memorial to its actual inspiration, Thoby Stephen, as well as to the "lost generation"--all those young lives who marched into WWI; JR's s creation involved analogous analytic and selective practices, implicit in the invented "narrative mode which foregrounds the selection, artifice, and experience of the exhibited example". I agree that VW's depicted shoes and boots retain all the pathos of life lived in time, evoking all the life and time the wearer trudged through as memento mori and so much more, no less than Van Gogh's boots do, even when she's highlighting the persistence of objects beyond death and human contemplation thereof, as in the comic contrast between Katharine's bored custodianship and the American tourist's "dumb" contemplation. The pathos of Betty Flanders's gesture, Katharine's burden of ancestral fame, and the American pilgrim seems to me perfectly compatible with the material and cultural questions raised by public "museology" (wonderful word!--never used it before). Christine On 7/31/2022 5:17 AM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: > I recently read this article: NASH, John, "Exhibiting the Example: > Virginia Woolf's Shoes", Twentieth_Century_Literature, 2013, > LIX,2:283-308 ?My focus is on Night and Day, Jacob?s Room and the > essays and reviews of literary ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > I recently read this article: > NASH, John, "Exhibiting the Example: Virginia Woolf's Shoes", > Twentieth_Century_Literature, 2013, LIX,2:283-308 > ?My focus is on Night and Day, Jacob?s Room and the essays and reviews > of literary > tourism (or literary geography, as she also called it). > ?In these works, Woolf often associates shoes with particular museological > contexts so that they become for her a kind of shorthand by which > she questions practices of exhibition and exemplification?issues that go > to the heart of her career-long concern with modes of representation > and perception. Shoes feature less as personal memorials (heavy with the > weight of pathos) and more as figures in a narrative mode which > foregrounds > the selection, artifice, and experience of the exhibited example.? > The author certainly knows his Woolf.? When we come to ND: > ?jadedness and disaffection > now define Katharine?s relationship with the great men of the past; > this time it is the visitor, an ?American lady who had come to be shown > the relics? (331), who singles out the slippers. ??What! His very own > slippers!? Laying aside the manuscript, she hastily grasped the old shoes, > and remained for a moment dumb in contemplation of them? (333). > The writers? shoes have become the focus of a satire on the ?sentimental > journeys? (?Howarth? 5) of the literary tourist?s ?dumb? admiration and > despoiling ?grasp.?? > The scene is sufficiently extensive, providing enough material for us > to discuss/argue about Woolf?s ?real? views about the relics of the > dead.? So, the scene can arguably fit the author?s contention. > However, when we come to ?Jacob?s Room?, all we have is: > ??What am I to do with these, Mr. Bonamy?? > ?She held out a pair of Jacob?s old shoes.? > These are the last 2 lines of the book? There isn?t an immediate > Woolfian context for interpretation, except the whole book. > The reader may be puzzled, of course.? Jacques-?mile Blanche recounted > that while staying at > the Belgrave Hotel in London in 1925: > ?I had left some of my papers and books in the reading-room when I was > called away > to answer a telephone call. [. . .] When I returned I found two women > turning over > the pages of a book that belonged to me. One of them was saying to the > other: ?Can > you make anything of it? Have you heard of the writer? It really makes > you think > you?ve gone off your head! Was that boy Jacob killed in the War? And > what?s all that > about *boots*?? > Nonetheless, critics are generally agreed that this is a moment of > pathos, or, as Nash puts it, there is ?a long critical history in Woolf > studies which emphasizes metonymy and pathos in the closing scene.?? > He specifically names Bill Brown, Alex Zwerdling, Laura Marcus, and > Robert Reginio. > Instead, he argues ?against this critical consensus ... Instead, this > essay asks *why* shoes came to seem so important > to Woolf and finds the answer in her critique of literary tourism.? > This is all very well, but no one reading JR for even the umpteenth > time could possibly deduce from the text that when Mrs Flanders asks, > ?What am I to do with these, Mr. Bonamy??, there could possibly be a > hidden critique of ?museology?. You may use JR as yet another example > of Woolf?s fascination with shoes and boots, but it is absurd to > gainsay the pathos of the last 2 lines of the novel.? 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URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Sun Jul 31 08:56:09 2022 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 08:56:09 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] They're a' oot o' step but oor Jock In-Reply-To: <22d94af4-fcfd-9716-c7ab-2566acc9091b@northwestern.edu> References: <2D8AA85F43C24083A72142CADAFC88FD@StuartHP> <22d94af4-fcfd-9716-c7ab-2566acc9091b@northwestern.edu> Message-ID: <001301d8a4dc$e8732410$b9596c30$@verizon.net> It is (pace Stuart) a risky business to dictate what is ?possible? when it comes to reading anything, especially by Woolf. Yes, there is enormous pathos in Betty Flanders?s question, but it seem to me that her question can fairly described as curatorial. It is the question all those who have to ?deal with? what is left behind must face. And shoes seem singularly challenging. What am I to do with these? Chuck ?em? Put them on a shelf? Donate them? Give them to the local history museum? Wear them? I don?t know. It?s difficult. I?ve been thinking a lot recently about memorial culture, specifically in relation to the events known in the US as ?9/11? (see attached), and I doubt anything in Woolf is ever ?simply one thing? (Ramsay, J.). From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Christine Froula via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2022 7:09 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] They're a' oot o' step but oor Jock Many thanks for your wonderful post, Stuart, so thoughtful and thought-provoking in regard to connections between private memorializing by way of relics left by the deceased and museum curation. Similar questions come into play in both domains Many thanks for your wonderful post, Stuart, so thoughtful and thought-provoking in regard to connections between private memorializing by way of relics left by the deceased and museum curation. Similar questions come into play in both domains at their respective scales: what to keep? what to toss? what to give away? what to show? what to pass on? In both domains, those who remember and value the deceased selectively invest meaning and value in objects that evoke the (natural; existential; human; social) time lived and experienced by the dead, with ND providing a hinge between them in depicting public (readers, historians, citizens, etc) and private (family, friends, heirs, etc) memories/memorials/sentimental journeys. Ditto for JR to the extent that the book itself is a public/published memorial to its actual inspiration, Thoby Stephen, as well as to the "lost generation"--all those young lives who marched into WWI; JR's s creation involved analogous analytic and selective practices, implicit in the invented "narrative mode which foregrounds the selection, artifice, and experience of the exhibited example". I agree that VW's depicted shoes and boots retain all the pathos of life lived in time, evoking all the life and time the wearer trudged through as memento mori and so much more, no less than Van Gogh's boots do, even when she's highlighting the persistence of objects beyond death and human contemplation thereof, as in the comic contrast between Katharine's bored custodianship and the American tourist's "dumb" contemplation. The pathos of Betty Flanders's gesture, Katharine's burden of ancestral fame, and the American pilgrim seems to me perfectly compatible with the material and cultural questions raised by public "museology" (wonderful word!--never used it before). Christine On 7/31/2022 5:17 AM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: I recently read this article: NASH, John, "Exhibiting the Example: Virginia Woolf's Shoes", Twentieth_Century_Literature, 2013, LIX,2:283-308 ?My focus is on Night and Day, Jacob?s Room and the essays and reviews of literary ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I recently read this article: NASH, John, "Exhibiting the Example: Virginia Woolf's Shoes", Twentieth_Century_Literature, 2013, LIX,2:283-308 ?My focus is on Night and Day, Jacob?s Room and the essays and reviews of literary tourism (or literary geography, as she also called it). ?In these works, Woolf often associates shoes with particular museological contexts so that they become for her a kind of shorthand by which she questions practices of exhibition and exemplification?issues that go to the heart of her career-long concern with modes of representation and perception. Shoes feature less as personal memorials (heavy with the weight of pathos) and more as figures in a narrative mode which foregrounds the selection, artifice, and experience of the exhibited example.? The author certainly knows his Woolf. When we come to ND: ?jadedness and disaffection now define Katharine?s relationship with the great men of the past; this time it is the visitor, an ?American lady who had come to be shown the relics? (331), who singles out the slippers. ??What! His very own slippers!? Laying aside the manuscript, she hastily grasped the old shoes, and remained for a moment dumb in contemplation of them? (333). The writers? shoes have become the focus of a satire on the ?sentimental journeys? (?Howarth? 5) of the literary tourist?s ?dumb? admiration and despoiling ?grasp.?? The scene is sufficiently extensive, providing enough material for us to discuss/argue about Woolf?s ?real? views about the relics of the dead. So, the scene can arguably fit the author?s contention. However, when we come to ?Jacob?s Room?, all we have is: ??What am I to do with these, Mr. Bonamy?? ?She held out a pair of Jacob?s old shoes.? These are the last 2 lines of the book There isn?t an immediate Woolfian context for interpretation, except the whole book. The reader may be puzzled, of course. Jacques-?mile Blanche recounted that while staying at the Belgrave Hotel in London in 1925: ?I had left some of my papers and books in the reading-room when I was called away to answer a telephone call. [. . .] When I returned I found two women turning over the pages of a book that belonged to me. One of them was saying to the other: ?Can you make anything of it? Have you heard of the writer? It really makes you think you?ve gone off your head! Was that boy Jacob killed in the War? And what?s all that about *boots*?? Nonetheless, critics are generally agreed that this is a moment of pathos, or, as Nash puts it, there is ?a long critical history in Woolf studies which emphasizes metonymy and pathos in the closing scene.? He specifically names Bill Brown, Alex Zwerdling, Laura Marcus, and Robert Reginio. Instead, he argues ?against this critical consensus ... Instead, this essay asks *why* shoes came to seem so important to Woolf and finds the answer in her critique of literary tourism.? This is all very well, but no one reading JR for even the umpteenth time could possibly deduce from the text that when Mrs Flanders asks, ?What am I to do with these, Mr. Bonamy??, there could possibly be a hidden critique of ?museology?. You may use JR as yet another example of Woolf?s fascination with shoes and boots, but it is absurd to gainsay the pathos of the last 2 lines of the novel. You don?t have to be persuaded by the pathos, but what can be intended by Woolf except some form of pathos? 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From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2022 8:56 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] They're a' oot o' step but oor Jock It is (pace Stuart) a risky business to dictate what is ?possible? when it comes to reading anything, especially by Woolf. Yes, there is enormous pathos in Betty Flanders?s question, but it seem to me that her question can fairly described It is (pace Stuart) a risky business to dictate what is ?possible? when it comes to reading anything, especially by Woolf. Yes, there is enormous pathos in Betty Flanders?s question, but it seem to me that her question can fairly described as curatorial. It is the question all those who have to ?deal with? what is left behind must face. And shoes seem singularly challenging. What am I to do with these? Chuck ?em? Put them on a shelf? Donate them? Give them to the local history museum? Wear them? I don?t know. It?s difficult. I?ve been thinking a lot recently about memorial culture, specifically in relation to the events known in the US as ?9/11? (see attached), and I doubt anything in Woolf is ever ?simply one thing? (Ramsay, J.). From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Christine Froula via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2022 7:09 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] They're a' oot o' step but oor Jock Many thanks for your wonderful post, Stuart, so thoughtful and thought-provoking in regard to connections between private memorializing by way of relics left by the deceased and museum curation. Similar questions come into play in both domains Many thanks for your wonderful post, Stuart, so thoughtful and thought-provoking in regard to connections between private memorializing by way of relics left by the deceased and museum curation. Similar questions come into play in both domains at their respective scales: what to keep? what to toss? what to give away? what to show? what to pass on? In both domains, those who remember and value the deceased selectively invest meaning and value in objects that evoke the (natural; existential; human; social) time lived and experienced by the dead, with ND providing a hinge between them in depicting public (readers, historians, citizens, etc) and private (family, friends, heirs, etc) memories/memorials/sentimental journeys. Ditto for JR to the extent that the book itself is a public/published memorial to its actual inspiration, Thoby Stephen, as well as to the "lost generation"--all those young lives who marched into WWI; JR's s creation involved analogous analytic and selective practices, implicit in the invented "narrative mode which foregrounds the selection, artifice, and experience of the exhibited example". I agree that VW's depicted shoes and boots retain all the pathos of life lived in time, evoking all the life and time the wearer trudged through as memento mori and so much more, no less than Van Gogh's boots do, even when she's highlighting the persistence of objects beyond death and human contemplation thereof, as in the comic contrast between Katharine's bored custodianship and the American tourist's "dumb" contemplation. The pathos of Betty Flanders's gesture, Katharine's burden of ancestral fame, and the American pilgrim seems to me perfectly compatible with the material and cultural questions raised by public "museology" (wonderful word!--never used it before). Christine On 7/31/2022 5:17 AM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: I recently read this article: NASH, John, "Exhibiting the Example: Virginia Woolf's Shoes", Twentieth_Century_Literature, 2013, LIX,2:283-308 ?My focus is on Night and Day, Jacob?s Room and the essays and reviews of literary ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I recently read this article: NASH, John, "Exhibiting the Example: Virginia Woolf's Shoes", Twentieth_Century_Literature, 2013, LIX,2:283-308 ?My focus is on Night and Day, Jacob?s Room and the essays and reviews of literary tourism (or literary geography, as she also called it). ?In these works, Woolf often associates shoes with particular museological contexts so that they become for her a kind of shorthand by which she questions practices of exhibition and exemplification?issues that go to the heart of her career-long concern with modes of representation and perception. Shoes feature less as personal memorials (heavy with the weight of pathos) and more as figures in a narrative mode which foregrounds the selection, artifice, and experience of the exhibited example.? The author certainly knows his Woolf. When we come to ND: ?jadedness and disaffection now define Katharine?s relationship with the great men of the past; this time it is the visitor, an ?American lady who had come to be shown the relics? (331), who singles out the slippers. ??What! His very own slippers!? Laying aside the manuscript, she hastily grasped the old shoes, and remained for a moment dumb in contemplation of them? (333). The writers? shoes have become the focus of a satire on the ?sentimental journeys? (?Howarth? 5) of the literary tourist?s ?dumb? admiration and despoiling ?grasp.?? The scene is sufficiently extensive, providing enough material for us to discuss/argue about Woolf?s ?real? views about the relics of the dead. So, the scene can arguably fit the author?s contention. However, when we come to ?Jacob?s Room?, all we have is: ??What am I to do with these, Mr. Bonamy?? ?She held out a pair of Jacob?s old shoes.? These are the last 2 lines of the book There isn?t an immediate Woolfian context for interpretation, except the whole book. The reader may be puzzled, of course. Jacques-?mile Blanche recounted that while staying at the Belgrave Hotel in London in 1925: ?I had left some of my papers and books in the reading-room when I was called away to answer a telephone call. [. . .] When I returned I found two women turning over the pages of a book that belonged to me. One of them was saying to the other: ?Can you make anything of it? Have you heard of the writer? It really makes you think you?ve gone off your head! Was that boy Jacob killed in the War? And what?s all that about *boots*?? Nonetheless, critics are generally agreed that this is a moment of pathos, or, as Nash puts it, there is ?a long critical history in Woolf studies which emphasizes metonymy and pathos in the closing scene.? He specifically names Bill Brown, Alex Zwerdling, Laura Marcus, and Robert Reginio. Instead, he argues ?against this critical consensus ... Instead, this essay asks *why* shoes came to seem so important to Woolf and finds the answer in her critique of literary tourism.? This is all very well, but no one reading JR for even the umpteenth time could possibly deduce from the text that when Mrs Flanders asks, ?What am I to do with these, Mr. Bonamy??, there could possibly be a hidden critique of ?museology?. You may use JR as yet another example of Woolf?s fascination with shoes and boots, but it is absurd to gainsay the pathos of the last 2 lines of the novel. You don?t have to be persuaded by the pathos, but what can be intended by Woolf except some form of pathos? 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URL: From grenpipiens at gmail.com Sun Jul 31 09:18:47 2022 From: grenpipiens at gmail.com (Andre Gerard) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 06:18:47 -0700 Subject: [Vwoolf] They're a' oot o' step but oor Jock In-Reply-To: <000d01d8a4dd$cbf5a230$63e0e690$@verizon.net> References: <2D8AA85F43C24083A72142CADAFC88FD@StuartHP> <22d94af4-fcfd-9716-c7ab-2566acc9091b@northwestern.edu> <001301d8a4dc$e8732410$b9596c30$@verizon.net> <000d01d8a4dd$cbf5a230$63e0e690$@verizon.net> Message-ID: If we read the interest shown in shoes by Mr. Ramsay and William Bankes as biographically influenced, then part of Woolf's interest and attention to the subject may have been stimulated by the conversations and behaviours of Leslie Stephen and his hiking friends. I also believe there is a good deal of *Heart of Darkness *in Woolf's interest in shoes. Early in that novel Marlowe metaphorically steps into Fresleven's shoes, then later he throws his actual, blood soaked shoes into the river. On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 6:02 AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: > Ps re the photo accompanying my shoes post, I should have credited Here is > New York: A Democracy of Photographs, Scalo 2002. (and ?fairly described? > should have said ?fairly be described? ?) From: Vwoolf > > > Ps re the photo accompanying my shoes post, I should have credited *Here > is New York: A Democracy of Photographs*, Scalo 2002. > > (and ?fairly described? should have said ?fairly be described? ?) > > *From:* Vwoolf *On > Behalf Of *Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2022 8:56 AM > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] They're a' oot o' step but oor Jock > > > > It is (pace Stuart) a risky business to dictate what is ?possible? when it > comes to reading anything, especially by Woolf. Yes, there is enormous > pathos in Betty Flanders?s question, but it seem to me that her question > can fairly described > > It is (*pace* Stuart) a risky business to dictate what is ?possible? when > it comes to reading anything, especially by Woolf. Yes, there is enormous > pathos in Betty Flanders?s question, but it seem to me that her question > can fairly described as curatorial. It is the question all those who have > to ?deal with? what is left behind must face. And shoes seem singularly > challenging. What *am* I to do with these? Chuck ?em? Put them on a > shelf? Donate them? Give them to the local history museum? Wear them? I > don?t know. It?s difficult. > > I?ve been thinking a lot recently about memorial culture, specifically in > relation to the events known in the US as ?9/11? (see attached), and I > doubt anything in Woolf is ever ?simply one thing? (Ramsay, J.). > > > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *Christine > Froula via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2022 7:09 AM > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] They're a' oot o' step but oor Jock > > > > Many thanks for your wonderful post, Stuart, so thoughtful and > thought-provoking in regard to connections between private memorializing by > way of relics left by the deceased and museum curation. Similar questions > come into play in both domains > > Many thanks for your wonderful post, Stuart, so thoughtful and > thought-provoking in regard to connections between private memorializing by > way of relics left by the deceased and museum curation. Similar questions > come into play in both domains at their respective scales: what to keep? > what to toss? what to give away? what to show? what to pass on? In both > domains, those who remember and value the deceased selectively invest > meaning and value in objects that evoke the (natural; existential; human; > social) time lived and experienced by the dead, with ND providing a hinge > between them in depicting public (readers, historians, citizens, etc) and > private (family, friends, heirs, etc) memories/memorials/sentimental > journeys. Ditto for JR to the extent that the book itself is a > public/published memorial to its actual inspiration, Thoby Stephen, as well > as to the "lost generation"--all those young lives who marched into WWI; > JR's s creation involved analogous analytic and selective practices, > implicit in the invented "narrative mode which foregrounds the selection, > artifice, and experience of the exhibited example". I agree that VW's > depicted shoes and boots retain all the pathos of life lived in time, > evoking all the life and time the wearer trudged through as memento mori > and so much more, no less than Van Gogh's boots do, even when she's > highlighting the persistence of objects beyond death and human > contemplation thereof, as in the comic contrast between Katharine's bored > custodianship and the American tourist's "dumb" contemplation. The pathos > of Betty Flanders's gesture, Katharine's burden of ancestral fame, and the > American pilgrim seems to me perfectly compatible with the material and > cultural questions raised by public "museology" (wonderful word!--never > used it before). > > Christine > > On 7/31/2022 5:17 AM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: > > I recently read this article: NASH, John, "Exhibiting the Example: > Virginia Woolf's Shoes", Twentieth_Century_Literature, 2013, LIX,2:283-308 > ?My focus is on Night and Day, Jacob?s Room and the essays and reviews of > literary ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > > I recently read this article: > > > > NASH, John, "Exhibiting the Example: Virginia Woolf's Shoes", > Twentieth_Century_Literature, 2013, LIX,2:283-308 > > > > ?My focus is on Night and Day, Jacob?s Room and the essays and reviews of > literary > > tourism (or literary geography, as she also called it). > > ?In these works, Woolf often associates shoes with particular museological > > contexts so that they become for her a kind of shorthand by which > > she questions practices of exhibition and exemplification?issues that go > > to the heart of her career-long concern with modes of representation > > and perception. Shoes feature less as personal memorials (heavy with the > > weight of pathos) and more as figures in a narrative mode which foregrounds > > the selection, artifice, and experience of the exhibited example.? > > > > The author certainly knows his Woolf. When we come to ND: > > > > ?jadedness and disaffection > > now define Katharine?s relationship with the great men of the past; > > this time it is the visitor, an ?American lady who had come to be shown > > the relics? (331), who singles out the slippers. ??What! His very own > > slippers!? Laying aside the manuscript, she hastily grasped the old shoes, > > and remained for a moment dumb in contemplation of them? (333). > > The writers? shoes have become the focus of a satire on the ?sentimental > > journeys? (?Howarth? 5) of the literary tourist?s ?dumb? admiration and > > despoiling ?grasp.?? > > > > The scene is sufficiently extensive, providing enough material for us to > discuss/argue about Woolf?s ?real? views about the relics of the dead. So, > the scene can arguably fit the author?s contention. > > > > However, when we come to ?Jacob?s Room?, all we have is: > > > > ??What am I to do with these, Mr. Bonamy?? > > ?She held out a pair of Jacob?s old shoes.? > > > > These are the last 2 lines of the book There isn?t an immediate Woolfian > context for interpretation, except the whole book. > > > > The reader may be puzzled, of course. Jacques-?mile Blanche recounted > that while staying at > > the Belgrave Hotel in London in 1925: > > ?I had left some of my papers and books in the reading-room when I was > called away > > to answer a telephone call. [. . .] When I returned I found two women > turning over > > the pages of a book that belonged to me. One of them was saying to the > other: ?Can > > you make anything of it? Have you heard of the writer? It really makes you > think > > you?ve gone off your head! Was that boy Jacob killed in the War? And > what?s all that > > about *boots*?? > > > > Nonetheless, critics are generally agreed that this is a moment of pathos, > or, as Nash puts it, there is ?a long critical history in Woolf > > studies which emphasizes metonymy and pathos in the closing scene.? He > specifically names Bill Brown, Alex Zwerdling, Laura Marcus, and Robert > Reginio. > > > > Instead, he argues ?against this critical consensus ... Instead, this > essay asks *why* shoes came to seem so important > > to Woolf and finds the answer in her critique of literary tourism.? > > > > This is all very well, but no one reading JR for even the umpteenth time > could possibly deduce from the text that when Mrs Flanders asks, ?What am I > to do with these, Mr. Bonamy??, there could possibly be a hidden critique > of ?museology?. You may use JR as yet another example of Woolf?s > fascination with shoes and boots, but it is absurd to gainsay the pathos of > the last 2 lines of the novel. You don?t have to be persuaded by the > pathos, but what can be intended by Woolf except some form of pathos? > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Vwoolf mailing list > > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!W8TtXCj9kVqtEYufGdMewK2qK65nZtBzEp4Gf309uFsbQAAEmioDGHMAp_qWrYRZFkWRIAsjIhqXSO-ljwwZEhDNlw$ > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ambantzinger at hotmail.com Sun Jul 31 09:58:27 2022 From: ambantzinger at hotmail.com (annemarie bantzinger) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 13:58:27 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] more shoes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: s a memorial erected on 16 April 2005, in Budapest, Hungary. Conceived by film director Can Togay, he created it on the east bank of the Danube River with sculptor Gyula Pauer [hu] to honour the Jews who were massacred by Fascist Hungarian militia belonging to the Arrow Cross Party in Budapest during the Second World War. They were ordered to take off their shoes (shoes were valuable and could be stolen and resold by the militia after the massacre), and were shot at the edge of the water so that their bodies fell into the river and were carried away. The memorial represents their shoes left behind on the bank. Outlook voor Android downloaden -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG-20220731-WA0002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 162671 bytes Desc: IMG-20220731-WA0002.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mrs Flanders seems to me to be a fairly unsentimental person, and I see her as trying to be practical and thinking of the shoes as just another thing of Jacob?s that has to be tidied up. This is to deny ? as Woolf denies us ? the original ending of the novel: ?They both laughed. The room waved behind her tears.? But Bonamy will not fail to feel the pathos. If we must think of museums, then Jacob is unexceptional (except to his friends and relations), so nothing will go to a museum. Mrs Flanders might as well chuck the shoes or give them to a second-hand clothes dealer or to some lower-class person she knows (such as her odd-job man Barnet) -- or to the deserving poor, perhaps through the COS (Charity Organisation Society). Cf. Clara and ?one pair of elastic stockings for Mrs. Page, widow, aged sixty-three, in receipt of five shillings out-door relief, and help from her only son employed in Messrs. Mackie?s dye-works, suffering in winter with his chest?. It was only the exceptional that ended up in a museum. Jacob was no Edward Thomas: ?We cannot get past a great writer?s house without pausing to give an extra look into it and furnishing it as far as we are able with his cat and his dog, his books and his writing table. We may justify the instinct by the fact that the dominion which writers have over us is immensely personal; it is their actual voice that we hear in the rise and fall of the sentence; their shape and colour that we see in the page, so that even their old shoes have a way of being worn on this side rather than on that, which seems not gossip but revelation.? (?Flumina Amem Silvasque?, E2 161) Stuart From: Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2022 1:56 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] They're a' oot o' step but oor Jock It is (pace Stuart) a risky business to dictate what is ?possible? when it comes to reading anything, especially by Woolf. Yes, there is enormous pathos in Betty Flanders?s question, but it seem to me that her question can fairly described It is (pace Stuart) a risky business to dictate what is ?possible? when it comes to reading anything, especially by Woolf. Yes, there is enormous pathos in Betty Flanders?s question, but it seem to me that her question can fairly described as curatorial. It is the question all those who have to ?deal with? what is left behind must face. And shoes seem singularly challenging. What am I to do with these? Chuck ?em? Put them on a shelf? Donate them? Give them to the local history museum? Wear them? I don?t know. It?s difficult. I?ve been thinking a lot recently about memorial culture, specifically in relation to the events known in the US as ?9/11? (see attached), and I doubt anything in Woolf is ever ?simply one thing? (Ramsay, J.). From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Christine Froula via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2022 7:09 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] They're a' oot o' step but oor Jock Many thanks for your wonderful post, Stuart, so thoughtful and thought-provoking in regard to connections between private memorializing by way of relics left by the deceased and museum curation. Similar questions come into play in both domains Many thanks for your wonderful post, Stuart, so thoughtful and thought-provoking in regard to connections between private memorializing by way of relics left by the deceased and museum curation. Similar questions come into play in both domains at their respective scales: what to keep? what to toss? what to give away? what to show? what to pass on? In both domains, those who remember and value the deceased selectively invest meaning and value in objects that evoke the (natural; existential; human; social) time lived and experienced by the dead, with ND providing a hinge between them in depicting public (readers, historians, citizens, etc) and private (family, friends, heirs, etc) memories/memorials/sentimental journeys. Ditto for JR to the extent that the book itself is a public/published memorial to its actual inspiration, Thoby Stephen, as well as to the "lost generation"--all those young lives who marched into WWI; JR's s creation involved analogous analytic and selective practices, implicit in the invented "narrative mode which foregrounds the selection, artifice, and experience of the exhibited example". I agree that VW's depicted shoes and boots retain all the pathos of life lived in time, evoking all the life and time the wearer trudged through as memento mori and so much more, no less than Van Gogh's boots do, even when she's highlighting the persistence of objects beyond death and human contemplation thereof, as in the comic contrast between Katharine's bored custodianship and the American tourist's "dumb" contemplation. The pathos of Betty Flanders's gesture, Katharine's burden of ancestral fame, and the American pilgrim seems to me perfectly compatible with the material and cultural questions raised by public "museology" (wonderful word!--never used it before). Christine On 7/31/2022 5:17 AM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: I recently read this article: NASH, John, "Exhibiting the Example: Virginia Woolf's Shoes", Twentieth_Century_Literature, 2013, LIX,2:283-308 ?My focus is on Night and Day, Jacob?s Room and the essays and reviews of literary ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I recently read this article: NASH, John, "Exhibiting the Example: Virginia Woolf's Shoes", Twentieth_Century_Literature, 2013, LIX,2:283-308 ?My focus is on Night and Day, Jacob?s Room and the essays and reviews of literary tourism (or literary geography, as she also called it). ?In these works, Woolf often associates shoes with particular museological contexts so that they become for her a kind of shorthand by which she questions practices of exhibition and exemplification?issues that go to the heart of her career-long concern with modes of representation and perception. Shoes feature less as personal memorials (heavy with the weight of pathos) and more as figures in a narrative mode which foregrounds the selection, artifice, and experience of the exhibited example.? The author certainly knows his Woolf. When we come to ND: ?jadedness and disaffection now define Katharine?s relationship with the great men of the past; this time it is the visitor, an ?American lady who had come to be shown the relics? (331), who singles out the slippers. ??What! His very own slippers!? Laying aside the manuscript, she hastily grasped the old shoes, and remained for a moment dumb in contemplation of them? (333). The writers? shoes have become the focus of a satire on the ?sentimental journeys? (?Howarth? 5) of the literary tourist?s ?dumb? admiration and despoiling ?grasp.?? The scene is sufficiently extensive, providing enough material for us to discuss/argue about Woolf?s ?real? views about the relics of the dead. So, the scene can arguably fit the author?s contention. However, when we come to ?Jacob?s Room?, all we have is: ??What am I to do with these, Mr. Bonamy?? ?She held out a pair of Jacob?s old shoes.? These are the last 2 lines of the book There isn?t an immediate Woolfian context for interpretation, except the whole book. The reader may be puzzled, of course. Jacques-?mile Blanche recounted that while staying at the Belgrave Hotel in London in 1925: ?I had left some of my papers and books in the reading-room when I was called away to answer a telephone call. [. . .] When I returned I found two women turning over the pages of a book that belonged to me. One of them was saying to the other: ?Can you make anything of it? Have you heard of the writer? It really makes you think you?ve gone off your head! Was that boy Jacob killed in the War? And what?s all that about *boots*?? Nonetheless, critics are generally agreed that this is a moment of pathos, or, as Nash puts it, there is ?a long critical history in Woolf studies which emphasizes metonymy and pathos in the closing scene.? He specifically names Bill Brown, Alex Zwerdling, Laura Marcus, and Robert Reginio. Instead, he argues ?against this critical consensus ... Instead, this essay asks *why* shoes came to seem so important to Woolf and finds the answer in her critique of literary tourism.? This is all very well, but no one reading JR for even the umpteenth time could possibly deduce from the text that when Mrs Flanders asks, ?What am I to do with these, Mr. Bonamy??, there could possibly be a hidden critique of ?museology?. You may use JR as yet another example of Woolf?s fascination with shoes and boots, but it is absurd to gainsay the pathos of the last 2 lines of the novel. You don?t have to be persuaded by the pathos, but what can be intended by Woolf except some form of pathos? 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URL: From pat.laurence at gmail.com Sun Jul 31 12:50:57 2022 From: pat.laurence at gmail.com (Pat Laurence) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 12:50:57 -0400 Subject: [Vwoolf] They're a' oot o' step but oor Jock In-Reply-To: <22d94af4-fcfd-9716-c7ab-2566acc9091b@northwestern.edu> References: <2D8AA85F43C24083A72142CADAFC88FD@StuartHP> <22d94af4-fcfd-9716-c7ab-2566acc9091b@northwestern.edu> Message-ID: Thanks Stuart, Mark and Christine for starting the stimulating conversation on Jacob's shoes and Anne Marie Batzinger for the moving historization of shoes of Jews in Hungary (I also remember abandoned piles in railway cars in the Holocaust Museum). Indeed, shoes are not "one thing." It reminds me of Proust's remark in *Swann's Way* about the importance of certain "material objects" in life: And so it is with our own past. It is a labour in vain to attempt to recapture it: all the efforts of our intellect must prove futile. The past is hidden somewhere outside the realm, beyond the reach of intellect, in some material object (in the sensation which that material object will give us) of which we have no inkling. And it depends on chance whether or not we come upon this object before we ourselves must die (59-60). And so it is with Woolf: she has reached out into the past and found a material object revelatory of Jacob's life--his shoes--in which he has lived his days in Cambridge, the war, middle-class life. Just as the shoes are "empty" of Jacob--"She held out a pair of Jacob's old shoes"--so is the "shawl" of Mrs. Ramsay. It once "soothed" the children when cast over the skull, or improved the look of the shabby house, or protected Rose or warmed herself.: it protected the family. But after Prue's death, the protection, "the fold of the shawl loosened," and when Mrs. McNab sees it in the ruined house, the shawl "loosened"--its protection of the family, the house, indeed, the nation--"and swung to and fro ." Pat Laurence On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 7:09 AM Christine Froula via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Many thanks for your wonderful post, Stuart, so thoughtful and > thought-provoking in regard to connections between private memorializing by > way of relics left by the deceased and museum curation. Similar questions > come into play in both domains > > Many thanks for your wonderful post, Stuart, so thoughtful and > thought-provoking in regard to connections between private memorializing by > way of relics left by the deceased and museum curation. Similar questions > come into play in both domains at their respective scales: what to keep? > what to toss? what to give away? what to show? what to pass on? In both > domains, those who remember and value the deceased selectively invest > meaning and value in objects that evoke the (natural; existential; human; > social) time lived and experienced by the dead, with ND providing a hinge > between them in depicting public (readers, historians, citizens, etc) and > private (family, friends, heirs, etc) memories/memorials/sentimental > journeys. Ditto for JR to the extent that the book itself is a > public/published memorial to its actual inspiration, Thoby Stephen, as well > as to the "lost generation"--all those young lives who marched into WWI; > JR's s creation involved analogous analytic and selective practices, > implicit in the invented "narrative mode which foregrounds the selection, > artifice, and experience of the exhibited example". I agree that VW's > depicted shoes and boots retain all the pathos of life lived in time, > evoking all the life and time the wearer trudged through as memento mori > and so much more, no less than Van Gogh's boots do, even when she's > highlighting the persistence of objects beyond death and human > contemplation thereof, as in the comic contrast between Katharine's bored > custodianship and the American tourist's "dumb" contemplation. The pathos > of Betty Flanders's gesture, Katharine's burden of ancestral fame, and the > American pilgrim seems to me perfectly compatible with the material and > cultural questions raised by public "museology" (wonderful word!--never > used it before). > > Christine > On 7/31/2022 5:17 AM, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: > > I recently read this article: NASH, John, "Exhibiting the Example: > Virginia Woolf's Shoes", Twentieth_Century_Literature, 2013, LIX,2:283-308 > ?My focus is on Night and Day, Jacob?s Room and the essays and reviews of > literary ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > I recently read this article: > > NASH, John, "Exhibiting the Example: Virginia Woolf's Shoes", > Twentieth_Century_Literature, 2013, LIX,2:283-308 > > ?My focus is on Night and Day, Jacob?s Room and the essays and reviews of > literary > tourism (or literary geography, as she also called it). > ?In these works, Woolf often associates shoes with particular museological > contexts so that they become for her a kind of shorthand by which > she questions practices of exhibition and exemplification?issues that go > to the heart of her career-long concern with modes of representation > and perception. Shoes feature less as personal memorials (heavy with the > weight of pathos) and more as figures in a narrative mode which foregrounds > the selection, artifice, and experience of the exhibited example.? > > The author certainly knows his Woolf. When we come to ND: > > ?jadedness and disaffection > now define Katharine?s relationship with the great men of the past; > this time it is the visitor, an ?American lady who had come to be shown > the relics? (331), who singles out the slippers. ??What! His very own > slippers!? Laying aside the manuscript, she hastily grasped the old shoes, > and remained for a moment dumb in contemplation of them? (333). > The writers? shoes have become the focus of a satire on the ?sentimental > journeys? (?Howarth? 5) of the literary tourist?s ?dumb? admiration and > despoiling ?grasp.?? > > The scene is sufficiently extensive, providing enough material for us to > discuss/argue about Woolf?s ?real? views about the relics of the dead. So, > the scene can arguably fit the author?s contention. > > However, when we come to ?Jacob?s Room?, all we have is: > > ??What am I to do with these, Mr. Bonamy?? > ?She held out a pair of Jacob?s old shoes.? > > These are the last 2 lines of the book There isn?t an immediate Woolfian > context for interpretation, except the whole book. > > The reader may be puzzled, of course. Jacques-?mile Blanche recounted > that while staying at > the Belgrave Hotel in London in 1925: > ?I had left some of my papers and books in the reading-room when I was > called away > to answer a telephone call. [. . .] When I returned I found two women > turning over > the pages of a book that belonged to me. One of them was saying to the > other: ?Can > you make anything of it? Have you heard of the writer? It really makes you > think > you?ve gone off your head! Was that boy Jacob killed in the War? And > what?s all that > about *boots*?? > > Nonetheless, critics are generally agreed that this is a moment of pathos, > or, as Nash puts it, there is ?a long critical history in Woolf > studies which emphasizes metonymy and pathos in the closing scene.? He > specifically names Bill Brown, Alex Zwerdling, Laura Marcus, and Robert > Reginio. > > Instead, he argues ?against this critical consensus ... Instead, this > essay asks *why* shoes came to seem so important > to Woolf and finds the answer in her critique of literary tourism.? > > This is all very well, but no one reading JR for even the umpteenth time > could possibly deduce from the text that when Mrs Flanders asks, ?What am I > to do with these, Mr. Bonamy??, there could possibly be a hidden critique > of ?museology?. You may use JR as yet another example of Woolf?s > fascination with shoes and boots, but it is absurd to gainsay the pathos of > the last 2 lines of the novel. You don?t have to be persuaded by the > pathos, but what can be intended by Woolf except some form of pathos? > > Stuart > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing listVwoolf at lists.osu.eduhttps://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!W8TtXCj9kVqtEYufGdMewK2qK65nZtBzEp4Gf309uFsbQAAEmioDGHMAp_qWrYRZFkWRIAsjIhqXSO-ljwwZEhDNlw$ > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: