From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Wed Feb 2 11:37:07 2022 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 16:37:07 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] The Wall Street Journal review of Clive Bell and the Making of Modernism--plus a very peculiar piece on Woolf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greetings, https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wsj.com/articles/clive-bell-biography-book-review-virginia-woolf-post-impressionism-art-bloomsburys-forgotten-man-11643384527__;!!KGKeukY!iCWFNTWhxFFwD3BlNhCHp-tGuWOy3YuL97Um22kpoYTcVDOJ8m2dKOozsEobbx0KRuE$ https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://codelist.biz/2022/01/26/why-is-virginia-woolf-still-modern/__;!!KGKeukY!iCWFNTWhxFFwD3BlNhCHp-tGuWOy3YuL97Um22kpoYTcVDOJ8m2dKOozsEobZkqkHX8$ Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women's and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 14:36:07 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] link for joining IVWS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here it is: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://v-woolf-society.com/membership/__;!!KGKeukY!l2x8-2Vu1fu4tp-1xhuBnJZP7YHnal7-J8xvAXJXieTN6Gqca1dXADo_Hj4aSc3ZTzY$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.paypal.com/en_US/i/btn/x-click-but21.gif__;!!KGKeukY!l2x8-2Vu1fu4tp-1xhuBnJZP7YHnal7-J8xvAXJXieTN6Gqca1dXADo_Hj4aNNUys_Q$ ] Join/Renew/Donate ? IVWS Join or Renew. To join the International Virginia Woolf Society, or to renew your membership, please first enter the requested information on the membership form.You will receive a confirmation page when all your information is entered, and from there you can choose from the following options to make your payment either by using PayPal or by mailing a cheque or money order. v-woolf-society.com Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women's and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Leslie Hankins via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 9:32 AM To: Virginia Woolf Subject: [Vwoolf] link for joining IVWS Is there one best link for joining the IVWS? thanks, Leslie -- Leslie Kathleen Hankins Professor, Chair Department of English & Creative Writing "No doubt we should be, on the whole, much worse off than we are without our astonishing gift for illusion." 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I?ve copied information about the contest below, but you?re also welcome to view the Call for Submissions on the IVWS Website here (which includes snippets and links to past winning essays): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://v-woolf-society.com/2022/02/03/call-for-submissions-2022-angelica-garnett-undergraduate-essay-prize/__;!!KGKeukY!nDgN8FVK51ufTw-cDMKG-gt0c_gUbG-M0njpI1R--q2Bvj-EqyOm4Hmo4avbgDfQY8A$ . Call for Submissions The International Virginia Woolf Society is pleased to host the Annual Undergraduate Essay Competition in honor of Virginia Woolf and in memory of Angelica Garnett, writer, artist, and daughter of Woolf?s sister, Vanessa Bell. For this competition, undergraduate essays can be on any topic pertaining to the writings of Virginia Woolf. Essays should be between 2000 and 2500 words in length, including notes and works cited, with an original title of the entrant?s choosing. Essays will be judged by the Society?s officers: Benjamin Hagen (President); Amanda Golden (Vice-President); Susan Wegener (Secretary-Treasurer); and Catherine Hollis (Historian-Bibliographer). The winner will receive $200 and have the essay published in a subsequent issue of the Virginia Woolf Miscellany. To submit an essay, please fill out this entry form (click here) and then send your essay to Benjamin D. Hagen (Benjamin.Hagen at usd.edu). All entries must be received by 30 June 2022. Best, Ben Hagen ? Benjamin D. Hagen, Ph.D. (he/him/his) Associate Professor | Dept of English | University of South Dakota Author | The Sensuous Pedagogies of Virginia Woolf and D.H. Lawrence Editor | Woolf Studies Annual President | International Virginia Woolf Society ? I acknowledge that the University of South Dakota is on indigenous territory. 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URL: From M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk Mon Feb 7 13:37:58 2022 From: M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk (Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 18:37:58 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?windows-1252?q?Wayne_Chapman_-_=93Something_that_I_rea?= =?windows-1252?q?d_in_a_book=94=3A_W=2E_B=2E_Yeats=92s_Annotations_at_the?= =?windows-1252?q?_National_Library_of_Ireland_in_two_volumes?= Message-ID: Dear Woolfians, In Modernist Studies, we are hearing a lot about the centenaries of Ulysses, Jacob's Room, and The Waste Land, perhaps we can also turn the spotlight onto Yeats. I would like to draw your attention to Wayne Chapman?s blog posts about his recent books on Yeats. Wayne?s books: ?Something that I read in a book?: W. B. Yeats?s Annotations at the National Library of Ireland in two volumes (I: Reading Notes; and II: Yeats Writings) are available now. See: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://libraries.clemson.edu/press/2022/01/28/author-post-yeats-the-library-and-literary-afterlife/__;!!KGKeukY!n5pG0UjXs9J1cQW_Ai_fnUw-pGuasOY8a94DG_0MVaZTBzj5EbzHBTzbbznCG_LRRag$ https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://liverpooluniversitypress.blog/2022/01/28/yeats-the-library-and-literary-afterlife/__;!!KGKeukY!n5pG0UjXs9J1cQW_Ai_fnUw-pGuasOY8a94DG_0MVaZTBzj5EbzHBTzbbznCyAKDU9M$ Warm wishes, Marielle Marielle O?Neill Postgraduate Researcher, Leeds Trinity University Executive Council Member, Virginia Woolf Society of Great Britain https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/events/__;!!KGKeukY!n5pG0UjXs9J1cQW_Ai_fnUw-pGuasOY8a94DG_0MVaZTBzj5EbzHBTzbbznCmb51ILA$ Programming Co-chair, Outside/rs 2022 Conference https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://outsiders2022.wordpress.com/__;!!KGKeukY!n5pG0UjXs9J1cQW_Ai_fnUw-pGuasOY8a94DG_0MVaZTBzj5EbzHBTzbbznC5P0ftPw$ m.oneill at leedstrinity.ac.uk Pronouns: She/Her -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hall) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 19:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] podcast on VW and Vita In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <563530692.1956857.1644348387681@mail.yahoo.com> When I clicked on the link, I got: The country you are located in is not supported. Is this a political statement about the current UK government? I couldn't possibly comment. Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Tuesday, 8 February 2022, 18:21:50 GMT, Leslie Hankins via Vwoolf wrote: My 15 minutes of fame (blush) https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-lovestruck-daily-92067598/episode/a-secret-love-affair-virginia-woolf-92631889/__;!!KGKeukY!jh-HxWIs6kjjHREA2jtL2yGDb4FEJqEijbhUKq3hWaGb56bCt2LTBmIOrbYnp2q7GQI$ lovestruck, Leslie -- Leslie Kathleen HankinsProfessor, ChairDepartment of English & Creative Writing "No doubt we should be, on the whole, much worse off than we are without our astonishing gift for illusion."? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Virginia Woolf, Jacob's Room Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ambantzinger at hotmail.com Tue Feb 8 14:54:41 2022 From: ambantzinger at hotmail.com (annemarie bantzinger) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 19:54:41 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] podcast on VW and Vita In-Reply-To: <563530692.1956857.1644348387681@mail.yahoo.com> References: <563530692.1956857.1644348387681@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here in Holland too alas.Not sure whether politics have anything to do with it. AnneMarie Outlook voor Android downloaden ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 8:26:27 PM To: Virginia Woolf ; Leslie Hankins Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] podcast on VW and Vita When I clicked on the link, I got: The country you are located in is not supported. Is this a political statement about the current UK government? I couldn't possibly comment. Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Tuesday, 8 February 2022, 18:21:50 GMT, Leslie Hankins via Vwoolf wrote: My 15 minutes of fame (blush) https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-lovestruck-daily-92067598/episode/a-secret-love-affair-virginia-woolf-92631889/__;!!KGKeukY!mUgyhVU9pdeyP2WQM9ADpDrhM90EWmnsfXPozZBsQztRNw-totI56KGR1CyV6LIQDIY$ lovestruck, Leslie -- Leslie Kathleen Hankins Professor, Chair Department of English & Creative Writing "No doubt we should be, on the whole, much worse off than we are without our astonishing gift for illusion." Virginia Woolf, Jacob's Room Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. 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AnneMarie ________________________________ Van: Vwoolf namens Leslie Hankins via Vwoolf Verzonden: dinsdag 8 februari 2022 18:21 Aan: Virginia Woolf Onderwerp: [Vwoolf] podcast on VW and Vita My 15 minutes of fame (blush) https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-lovestruck-daily-92067598/episode/a-secret-love-affair-virginia-woolf-92631889/__;!!KGKeukY!mYcKyabFz81E6CveJQsfTw2um7F8bMjYk3HDTVIRumSQCmanozS6hqipinzy_uPJOFc$ lovestruck, Leslie -- Leslie Kathleen Hankins Professor, Chair Department of English & Creative Writing "No doubt we should be, on the whole, much worse off than we are without our astonishing gift for illusion." Virginia Woolf, Jacob's Room Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. 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For availability in other countries and all other enquiries, please email Elte Rauch at info at uitgeverijhetmoet.nl In the UK it can be ordered from the London Review Book Shop: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.londonreviewbookshop.co.uk/stock/on-being-ill-virginia-woolf__;!!KGKeukY!ky-IqqHAuw2XFPXkx_gWzEc-fLBiO0HU2sK5vQdqajfVL2mdBLOqmkyCUl3G5wZKrGg$ In Ireland, it can be ordered from Hodges Figgis Waterstones. Email: enquiries at hodgesfiggis.ie The anthology is available in English in the UK, Ireland, and Europe and in Dutch in the Netherlands. On Being Ill HetMoet, 2021, paperback with flaps p.172. / ?14. 99 ISBN 978-1-874320-77-7 https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.uitgeverijhetmoet.nl/__;!!KGKeukY!ky-IqqHAuw2XFPXkx_gWzEc-fLBiO0HU2sK5vQdqajfVL2mdBLOqmkyCUl3G5C2uIVQ$ Virginia Woolf, Deryn-Rees Jones, Lieke Marsman, Lucia Osborne-Crowley, Mieke van Zonneveld, Nafissa Thompson-Spires, Nadia de Vries, Jameisha Prescod, Sin?ad Gleeson and Audre Lorde. Translations by Sophie Collins. Cover art by Louisa Albani Warm wishes, Marielle Marielle O'Neill Postgraduate Researcher, Leeds Trinity University Executive Council Member, Virginia Woolf Society of Great Britain https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/events/__;!!KGKeukY!ky-IqqHAuw2XFPXkx_gWzEc-fLBiO0HU2sK5vQdqajfVL2mdBLOqmkyCUl3Ga5WLJ5g$ Programming Co-chair, Outside/rs 2022 Conference https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://outsiders2022.wordpress.com/__;!!KGKeukY!ky-IqqHAuw2XFPXkx_gWzEc-fLBiO0HU2sK5vQdqajfVL2mdBLOqmkyCUl3GMFFIdcE$ m.oneill at leedstrinity.ac.uk Pronouns: She/Her -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Drew.Shannon at msj.edu Wed Feb 9 16:45:18 2022 From: Drew.Shannon at msj.edu (Shannon, Drew [School of Arts & Humanities]) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 21:45:18 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] LONDON UNPLUGGED / "Kew Gardens" film Message-ID: <4ca4dcefc8fe43718cf3b2b460f12ac2@MSJEMAIL13.msj.edu> Greetings! Many of you might be familiar with the 2019 British film London Unplugged, an anthology of short films about the city by multiple directors, and which contains a short film based on "Kew Gardens," shot at the actual location and featuring Christina Carty as Virginia Woolf. (Carty played Woolf in an episode of Downton Abbey, but her scenes were cut. She can be seen in the background in one remaining shot.) London Unplugged hasn't been available in the U.S. on DVD, but is now available to stream on both Amazon Prime and on Tubi TV; the latter is a free app that you can use on a smart TV. It also appears to be rentable via iTunes. The "Kew Gardens" clip is fascinating and well worth a look. The film also contains an adaptation of one of Katherine Mansfield's stories, "Pictures." Enjoy! Drew [cid:image003.jpg at 01D54305.D6DA8400] Drew Shannon, Ph.D. Associate Professor of English Department of Liberal Arts Mount St. Joseph University 5701 Delhi Road | Cincinnati, OH 45233-1672 513-244-4541 | Drew.Shannon at msj.edu "I meant to write about death, only life came breaking in as usual." - Virginia Woolf, Diary, 17 February 1922 Please consider the environment before printing this email. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 8719 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From singingkitchen at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 17:00:44 2022 From: singingkitchen at gmail.com (Lorienne E Schwenk) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 14:00:44 -0800 Subject: [Vwoolf] Hello Again from a Common Reader Message-ID: Greetings, I am a soon to be formerly lapsed member of IVWS. In the pandemic I started a deep dive into Tolkien and am wondering if there have been conversations about his character Lobelia Sackville-Baggins and how she gets denied the home she longs to call her own... -- The Singing Kitchen Lorienne Schwenk, Personal Chef and Nutritional Mentor Cambria, California Number: 805.200.7908 eat food - not too much - mostly plants -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From acsmith3 at lamar.edu Tue Feb 8 15:59:32 2022 From: acsmith3 at lamar.edu (AMY SMITH) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 20:59:32 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] FW: 2022 Virginia Woolf conference--abstract deadline approaching In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello everyone, Just a note to remind you all that the deadline to propose abstracts (or panels, roundtables, etc) for this summer's annual Virginia Woolf conference is next Tuesday, February 15th. Now that the conference has moved online, I am exploring a variety of new ways for us to interact with one another, sharing and developing ideas collaboratively, connecting socially, and thinking together in community. I'll be announcing some exciting opportunities for folks to participate in the conference in addition to traditional presentations of papers. If you have ideas you'd like to float by me, please get in touch and we'll scheme together. And, of course, please continue to send your paper abstracts. While the conference theme is Virginia Woolf and Ethics, papers on other topics are also welcome. Inquires and abstracts can be sent to Virginia.Woolf at lamar.edu. The full call for papers can be found at: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://call-for-papers.sas.upenn.edu/cfp/2021/06/18/online-virginia-woolf-and-ethics-the-31st-annual-international-conference-on-virginia__;!!KGKeukY!g-IGJbT5KBvImIR_Ycyk3TxvGyb8tJqEdBETkLEmTILw_4bi0DMLkyIO5-XCVDmFpf8$ Amy C. 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URL: From M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk Wed Feb 16 16:03:26 2022 From: M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk (Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:03:26 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Memorial to Virginia Woolf under scrutiny as council pores over potential racism links - The Telegraph Message-ID: Dear Woolfians, Please see the following article from The Telegraph (16 February 2022). As it is behind a paywall, I have cut and pasted. Warm wishes, Marielle Memorial to Virginia Woolf under scrutiny as council pores over potential racism links (Photo of the Dreadnaught Hoax) with caption: Virginia Woolf - then Virginia Stephen (far left) - in 'blackface' for a prank in 1910. By Craig Simpson Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf? The author has been drawn into a local authority's review of its statues, aimed at making monuments more "inclusive", it can be revealed. The writer's memorial outside her former Bloomsbury home in north London has been dragged into audit by Camden borough council, after it drew up a framework to address commemorations linked to "racism, slavery...imperialism". A bronze bust commemorating Woolf - accused by some of having racist views - has been investigated by council officers as part of the project to ensure statues in the borough are inclusive. Research into Woolf will feed into what the council has termed "the development and design of a project to identify, review and interpret extant statues and memorials in Camden that commemorate individuals". Council information added that following initial research into local monuments "Members agreed to develop a project to identify, review and interpret all statues and memorials in Camden to ensure an accurate, thorough and inclusive approach to all commemorations." Woolf, who wrote works including Mrs Dalloway and A Room of One's Own before her suicide in 1941, has been hailed as a pioneer of both modernism and feminism. But extracts from her work have been criticised by some for the use of racial epithets such as "n-----", and her diaries include remarks labelled as racist, including a description of a black person's skin as "black as a monkey's". She also dressed in "blackface" in 1910 as part of an elaborate prank by the Bloomsbury Group members who posed as an Abyssinian delegation in an attempt to board the Royal Navy's flagship HMS Dreadnought. The memorial to Woolf in Tavistock Square has been investigated by council staff, along with statues in the area depicting Karl Marx and Mahatma Gandhi - both said to have held racist views - and Matthew Flinders, the colonial explorer of Australia. Camden council will audit al local statues using its research of these figures as a starting point, with a view to eventually attaching QR codes to monuments which tourists can scan with their phones to be told about the potentially fraught legacies of the people the statues represent. A spokesman said: "We want to help our communities and visitors develop a greater understanding of statues and memorials in Camden." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk Wed Feb 16 16:14:48 2022 From: M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk (Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:14:48 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Defects aside, her writing's impact was overwhelmingly benign - The Telegraph Message-ID: Dear Woolfians, Another article on Woolf in today's Telegraph. Warm wishes, Marielle Defects aside, her writing's impact was overwhelmingly benign By Jake Kerridge "I do not believe that gifts, whether of mind or character, can be weighted like sugar and butter," Virginia Woolf once wrote. Camden council clearly does not agree. With her literary achievements in one pan of the scales and her character defects in the other, officials are balancing up the case for a memorial bust of Woolf in Bloomsbury to remain undisturbed. What they seem to have missed is that Woolf's influence - not just on literature but on British society - has been overwhelmingly benign. As a novelist she was one of the greatest delineators of the human consciousness and the fragmentary way our thoughts operate. If she has never quite received as much acclaim in this regard as her contemporaries, Proust and Joyce, this may be because some regard her focus on an upper-middle-class milieu as parochial. But although her Mrs Dalloway, say, concentrates on a woman beset by status anxiety, there are also harrowing sections for the viewpoint of the shell-shocked Great War veteran Septimus Smith. If the moral achievement of the best novelists is to extend the reader's capacity for empathy by placing them as close as they can come to the inside of the mind of another, Woolf was in the vanguard. She also wrote brilliant literary criticism, designed to open great books up for "the common reader" - not academics but those who were denied a university education because of their class or (like her) sex. There were her proto-feminist essays too, such as A Room of One's Own; and her diaries, in which she found a new language to talk about mental health and the battles she bravely fought (probably what we now call bipolar) that culminated in her drowning herself in the Ouse in 1941. Of course her style and her politics are not to everybody's taste. But as she wrote in A Room of One's Own, "So long as you write what you wish to write, that is all that matters. To sacrifice a hair of the head of your vision, a shade of its colour, in deference to some headmaster or professor is the most abject treachery." She might have added the council official with his list of transgressions; but we have all benefitted from Woolf's courage in exposing herself to censure by being true to her own visions. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk Thu Feb 17 03:08:19 2022 From: M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk (Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 08:08:19 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?windows-1252?q?Virginia_Woolf=92s_Bloomsbury_bust_put_?= =?windows-1252?q?on_racism_list_-_The_Times_17_February_2022?= Message-ID: Dear Woolfians, Another article on this topic; again behind a paywall. Warm wishes, Marielle Virginia Woolf?s Bloomsbury bust put on racism list A statue of Virginia Woolf is to be included in a council review of how to make its monuments more ?inclusive?. The bronze bust outside the author?s former home in Bloomsbury, north London, will be assessed by Camden council, which is trying to address links to racism, slavery and imperialism. Results from the review of the memorial to Woolf ? claimed by some to have held racist views ? will go into a project to ensure an ?accurate, thorough and inclusive? approach to monuments. Other statues said to be included in the Labour-controlled Camden review are of Mahatma Gandhi, Karl Marx and Matthew Flinders, the colonial explorer of Australia. Oliver Cooper, leader of the Camden Conservatives, said: ?These plans to rewrite hundreds of years of history are being cooked up behind closed doors without discussion. If these decisions are being made for public benefit, they must have public consent and involvement, and with political consensus.? Woolf?s novels includes Mrs Dalloway, To the Lighthouse and Orlando. Her works have been translated into more than 50 languages and she is commemorated on statues, including the bust in Tavistock Square and a building at the University of London. She killed herself in 1941. Some extracts from Woolf?s work have been criticised for the use of racial epithets and her diaries include remarks labelled as racist. She dressed in ?blackface? in 1910 as part of a elaborate prank by the artists and writers known as the Bloomsbury Group. Ilona Bell, an American academic who wrote a biographical essay on Woolf and who has taught her novels at Williams College, Massachusetts, defended the author. She told The Times: ?Having lost her mother and been sexually abused during adolescence, Virginia Woolf could have defined herself as a victim. ?Instead, she wrote some of the most brilliant, experimental novels and bold, path-breaking feminist critiques of the 20th century. Nothing she may have said or done, off the record, in her private life or journals can or should detract from the enormous impact she has had and continues to have.? Camden council?s audit eventually may result in QR codes being attached to monuments so that people can scan them with their phones and be told about the potentially fraught legacies of the people the statues represent. A spokesman said: ?We want to help our communities and visitors to develop a greater understanding of statues and memorials in Camden.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danelljones at bresnan.net Thu Feb 17 10:50:44 2022 From: danelljones at bresnan.net (Danell Jones) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 08:50:44 -0700 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Virginia_Woolf=E2=80=99s_Bloomsbury_bust_put_o?= =?utf-8?q?n_racism_list_-_The_Times_17_February_2022?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3e8ns3a0h1-1@m0130879.ppops.net> Marielle, I so appreciate being able to read these articles, Marielle. Thank you for taking the time to share them with us. Danell Sent from Mail for Windows From: Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 1:08 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf?s Bloomsbury bust put on racism list - The Times 17 February 2022 Dear Woolfians, Another article on this topic; again behind a paywall. Warm wishes, Marielle Virginia Woolf?s Bloomsbury bust put on racism list A statue of Virginia Woolf is to be included in a council review of how to make its monuments more ?inclusive?. The bronze bust outside the author?s former home in Bloomsbury, north London, will be assessed by Camden council, which is trying to address links to racism, slavery and imperialism. Results from the review of the memorial to Woolf ? claimed by some to have held racist views ? will go into a project to ensure an ?accurate, thorough and inclusive? approach to monuments. Other statues said to be included in the Labour-controlled Camden review are of Mahatma Gandhi, Karl Marx and Matthew Flinders, the colonial explorer of Australia. Oliver Cooper, leader of the Camden Conservatives, said: ?These plans to rewrite hundreds of years of history are being cooked up behind closed doors without discussion. If these decisions are being made for public benefit, they must have public consent and involvement, and with political consensus.? Woolf?s novels includes Mrs Dalloway, To the Lighthouse and Orlando. Her works have been translated into more than 50 languages and she is commemorated on statues, including the bust in Tavistock Square and a building at the University of London. She killed herself in 1941. Some extracts from Woolf?s work have been criticised for the use of racial epithets and her diaries include remarks labelled as racist. She dressed in ?blackface? in 1910 as part of a elaborate prank by the artists and writers known as the Bloomsbury Group. Ilona Bell, an American academic who wrote a biographical essay on Woolf and who has taught her novels at Williams College, Massachusetts, defended the author. She told The Times: ?Having lost her mother and been sexually abused during adolescence, Virginia Woolf could have defined herself as a victim. ?Instead, she wrote some of the most brilliant, experimental novels and bold, path-breaking feminist critiques of the 20th century. Nothing she may have said or done, off the record, in her private life or journals can or should detract from the enormous impact she has had and continues to have.? Camden council?s audit eventually may result in QR codes being attached to monuments so that people can scan them with their phones and be told about the potentially fraught legacies of the people the statues represent. A spokesman said: ?We want to help our communities and visitors to develop a greater understanding of statues and memorials in Camden.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 16:34:06 2022 From: M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk (Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 21:34:06 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?windows-1252?q?The_Times_view_on_Virginia_Woolf=92s_Bl?= =?windows-1252?q?oomsbury_bust=3A_Culture_Clash_17_February_2022?= Message-ID: Dear Woolfians, Please see The Times op-ed below: This monument to the great modernist author should be left in peace In the punning title of the Edward Albee play Who?s Afraid of Virginia Woolf? the answer turns out to be a local authority in north London. Camden council is conducting a review of how to make monuments in the borough more ?inclusive?, and among the potential targets is one commemorating a famed local author. Woolf, who took her own life in 1941, was among the bohemian figures who made up the Bloomsbury Group of artists and intellectuals in the area. A bronze bust of her stands outside her home in Tavistock Square. Its peace may yet be disturbed. With a mandate to ensure an ?accurate, thorough and inclusive? approach, bureaucrats are conducting an audit of the council?s monuments. The sculpture may be accompanied by a public notice that Woolf held some views that diverge from modern mores. Her work contains phrases that can be interpreted as racial epithets, and she participated in a celebrated hoax in 1910 in which she and her friends dressed in exotic costumes and darkened their faces. Enough. It is to the good that British society is more sensitive than it was a generation ago, let alone a century ago, to issues of race. It is also integral to historical research and literary criticism to revise reputations. But it is absurd to reduce Woolf?s significance to the question of how far she exemplified the tastes of Camden?s contemporary inquisitors. She was first and foremost an artist. There is little plot or suspense in her work, but Woolf depicted life and character, and she did it with immense skill. Her 1927 novel To the Lighthouse, for example, stands out for the pathos of the depiction of its protagonists Mr and Mrs Ramsay. There is quite enough cultural philistinism surrounding the interpretation of this most skilled of modernist authors. Camden?s council officials should forgo the temptation to add to it with irrelevant censoriousness. Warm wishes, Marielle Marielle O?Neill Postgraduate Researcher, Leeds Trinity University Executive Council Member, Virginia Woolf Society of Great Britain https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/events/__;!!KGKeukY!ik9PSJ4qvPWpx0wkHbEiJmBuadFndb0YJiFD6LMs1omVfesswLhluSEWe09_eZoCJpw$ Programming Co-chair, Outside/rs 2022 Conference https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://outsiders2022.wordpress.com/__;!!KGKeukY!ik9PSJ4qvPWpx0wkHbEiJmBuadFndb0YJiFD6LMs1omVfesswLhluSEWe09_y7ux4qc$ m.oneill at leedstrinity.ac.uk Pronouns: She/Her -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 5:08 PM To: vwoolf listerve Subject: [Vwoolf] Unherd.com, Will Lloyd's view on Virginia Woolf?s Bloomsbury bust: Culture Clash 18 February 2022 Dear Woolfians, Incidentally - please see an (unheard?) UnHerd.com post below - for a smile, or not a smile? A smackerel it is (or ?). https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://unherd.com/thepost/virginia-woolf-predicted-her-own-cancellation/__;!!KGKeukY!mT-94mewa6j8FmzS_bAvGDfkcadyhb7k8IZ7Q_JDc4UhWGDRwRvD_9XR3htEGKSbRFg$ - "In the meantime, Woolf has some good advice, from Jacob?s Room (1922): ?Detest your own age. Build a better one.?" - Will Lloyd Happy weekend to all ? With warm regards Marie-Claire IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. 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URL: From mhussey at verizon.net Sat Feb 19 08:58:47 2022 From: mhussey at verizon.net (mhussey at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2022 08:58:47 -0500 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Unherd=2Ecom=2C_Will_Lloyd=27s_view_on_Virgini?= =?utf-8?q?a_Woolf=E2=80=99s_Bloomsbury_bust=3A_Culture_Clash_18_Fe?= =?utf-8?q?bruary_2022?= In-Reply-To: <001b01d82516$20a852c0$61f8f840$@verizon.net> References: <001b01d82516$20a852c0$61f8f840$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <004901d82598$d16259d0$74270d70$@verizon.net> Whenever I see this genre of article, I am reminded of a point Lauren Elkin makes in Fl?neuse: that Woolf is ?the favourite target of literary men beefing up their virility by slagging her off.? Never fails! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 5:23 PM To: 'Marie Claire Boisset' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Unherd.com, Will Lloyd's view on Virginia Woolf?s Bloomsbury bust: Culture Clash 18 February 2022 I am not going to pay 95p for the pleasure of commenting on this piece of tripe. It is in some ways, I suppose, admirable that places like unHerd exist to offer opportunities for illiterates to publish nonsense! From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 5:08 PM To: vwoolf listerve > Subject: [Vwoolf] Unherd.com, Will Lloyd's view on Virginia Woolf?s Bloomsbury bust: Culture Clash 18 February 2022 Dear Woolfians, Incidentally - please see an (unheard?) UnHerd.com post below - for a smile, or not a smile? A smackerel it is (or ?). https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://unherd.com/thepost/virginia-woolf-predicted-her-own-cancellation/__;!!KGKeukY!kg_w3VPGcA07RHZxfupTv7XAHtfp7nMuAMapcscltFZ1JEmJdQhmO0lee5bJJpnC7dU$ - "In the meantime, Woolf has some good advice, from Jacob?s Room (1922): ?Detest your own age. Build a better one.?" - Will Lloyd Happy weekend to all ? With warm regards Marie-Claire IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfroula at northwestern.edu Sat Feb 19 09:07:24 2022 From: cfroula at northwestern.edu (Christine Froula) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2022 08:07:24 -0600 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Unherd=2Ecom=2C_Will_Lloyd=27s_view_on_Virgini?= =?utf-8?q?a_Woolf=E2=80=99s_Bloomsbury_bust=3A_Culture_Clash_18_February_?= =?utf-8?q?2022?= In-Reply-To: <004901d82598$d16259d0$74270d70$@verizon.net> References: <001b01d82516$20a852c0$61f8f840$@verizon.net> <004901d82598$d16259d0$74270d70$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4c190562-112e-bcd5-2508-7700658ac10a@northwestern.edu> But I do regret the targeting of her bust in the Square. Seems to me that if we made misogyny a cancelable crime we'd have enough scrap iron to rebuild the Titanic... On 2/19/2022 7:58 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: > > Whenever I see this genre of article, I am reminded of a point Lauren > Elkin makes in /Fl?neuse/: that Woolf is ?the favourite target of > literary men beefing up their virility by slagging her off.? > > Never fails! > > // > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *Mark > Hussey via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2022 5:23 PM > *To:* 'Marie Claire Boisset' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Unherd.com, Will Lloyd's view on Virginia > Woolf?s Bloomsbury bust: Culture Clash 18 February 2022 > > I am not going to pay 95p for the pleasure of commenting on this piece > of tripe. It is in some ways, I suppose, admirable that places like > unHerd exist to offer opportunities for illiterates to publish nonsense! > > *From:* Vwoolf *On > Behalf Of *Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2022 5:08 PM > *To:* vwoolf listerve > *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Unherd.com, Will Lloyd's view on Virginia Woolf?s > Bloomsbury bust: Culture Clash 18 February 2022 > > Dear Woolfians, > > Incidentally - please see an (unheard?) UnHerd.com post below - for a > smile, or not a smile? > > A smackerel it is (or ?). > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://unherd.com/thepost/virginia-woolf-predicted-her-own-cancellation/__;!!KGKeukY!iQYRO96S34L1_5Gg3dz8uQghOyuvsksCmtuoRQjWBmVnsWqzHmgOq85BqsM9ur6G0Lo$ > > ? ?- > > "In the meantime, Woolf has some good advice, from/Jacob?s Room/(1922): > > ?Detest your own age. 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One might compare Lloyd's reflections to a review of Jacob's Room from 3 November 1922: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/jul/20/fromthearchives.virginiawoolf*:*:text=*22Let*20not*20a*20shred*20remain,entirely*20upon*20six*20young*20men.*22__;I34lJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!h-um1pd9FRjOMWrL68mAOupXIrWxHThk4kI81GPDzWvHSaDlq_T_j_oERO3T3w2DJKo$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://assets.guim.co.uk/images/eada8aa27c12fe2d5afa3a89d3fbae0d/fallback-logo.png__;!!KGKeukY!h-um1pd9FRjOMWrL68mAOupXIrWxHThk4kI81GPDzWvHSaDlq_T_j_oERO3TplbMg-w$ ] The unconventional novel | Books | The Guardian Extracts from reviews of Mrs Woolf's previous books are provided very generously by the publisher, and it is commonly agreed that she is interesting. https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.theguardian.com__;!!KGKeukY!h-um1pd9FRjOMWrL68mAOupXIrWxHThk4kI81GPDzWvHSaDlq_T_j_oERO3T5-daYCs$ Happy Saturday, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women's and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Christine Froula via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2022 9:07 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Unherd.com, Will Lloyd's view on Virginia Woolf?s Bloomsbury bust: Culture Clash 18 February 2022 But I do regret the targeting of her bust in the Square. Seems to me that if we made misogyny a cancelable crime we'd have enough scrap iron to rebuild the Titanic... On 2/19/2022 7:58 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: Whenever I see this genre of article, I am reminded of a point Lauren Elkin makes in Fl?neuse: that Woolf is ?the favourite target of literary men beefing up their virility by slagging her off.? Never fails! From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 5:23 PM To: 'Marie Claire Boisset' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Unherd.com, Will Lloyd's view on Virginia Woolf?s Bloomsbury bust: Culture Clash 18 February 2022 I am not going to pay 95p for the pleasure of commenting on this piece of tripe. It is in some ways, I suppose, admirable that places like unHerd exist to offer opportunities for illiterates to publish nonsense! From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 5:08 PM To: vwoolf listerve > Subject: [Vwoolf] Unherd.com, Will Lloyd's view on Virginia Woolf?s Bloomsbury bust: Culture Clash 18 February 2022 Dear Woolfians, Incidentally - please see an (unheard?) UnHerd.com post below - for a smile, or not a smile? A smackerel it is (or ?). https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://unherd.com/thepost/virginia-woolf-predicted-her-own-cancellation/__;!!KGKeukY!h-um1pd9FRjOMWrL68mAOupXIrWxHThk4kI81GPDzWvHSaDlq_T_j_oERO3TjEbBN2o$ - "In the meantime, Woolf has some good advice, from Jacob?s Room (1922): ?Detest your own age. Build a better one.?" - Will Lloyd Happy weekend to all ? With warm regards Marie-Claire IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. 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The article doesn't appear to be paywalled: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.easterneye.biz/mahatma-gandhi-virginia-woolf-statues-on-racism-review-list/__;!!KGKeukY!mYbpk6MLBpXdpDbkLLGmqHz9miOlZxmuALIMl8MFW1QOo_KnabXjs6M7sNO63adz6us$ All my best, Alice Alice Keane Adjunct Assistant Professor Department of English Queens College, CUNY 65-30 Kissena Blvd. Flushing, NY 11367 On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 10:51 AM Danell Jones via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Marielle, > > > > I so appreciate being able to read these articles, Marielle. Thank you for > taking the time to share them with us. > > > > Danell > > > > Sent from Mail > > for Windows > > > > *From: *Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD via Vwoolf > *Sent: *Thursday, February 17, 2022 1:08 AM > *To: *vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > *Subject: *[Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf?s Bloomsbury bust put on racism list - > The Times 17 February 2022 > > > > Dear Woolfians, > > > > Another article on this topic; again behind a paywall. > > > > Warm wishes, > > Marielle > > > > *Virginia Woolf?s Bloomsbury bust put on racism list* > > > > A statue of Virginia Woolf is to be included in a council review of how to > make its monuments more ?inclusive?. > > > > The bronze bust outside the author?s former home in Bloomsbury, north > London, will be assessed by Camden council, which is trying to address > links to racism, slavery and imperialism. > > > > Results from the review of the memorial to Woolf ? claimed by some to have > held racist views ? will go into a project to ensure an ?accurate, thorough > and inclusive? approach to monuments. > > > > Other statues said to be included in the Labour-controlled Camden review > are of Mahatma Gandhi, Karl Marx and Matthew Flinders, the colonial > explorer of Australia. > > > > Oliver Cooper, leader of the Camden Conservatives, said: ?These plans to > rewrite hundreds of years of history are being cooked up behind closed > doors without discussion. If these decisions are being made for public > benefit, they must have public consent and involvement, and with political > consensus.? > > > > Woolf?s novels includes *Mrs Dalloway*, *To the Lighthouse* and *Orlando*. > Her works have been translated into more than 50 languages and she is > commemorated on statues, including the bust in Tavistock Square and a > building at the University of London. She killed herself in 1941. > > > > Some extracts from Woolf?s work have been criticised for the use of racial > epithets and her diaries include remarks labelled as racist. She dressed in > ?blackface? in 1910 as part of a elaborate prank by the artists and writers > known as the Bloomsbury Group. > > > > Ilona Bell, an American academic who wrote a biographical essay on Woolf > and who has taught her novels at Williams College, Massachusetts, defended > the author. She told The Times: ?Having lost her mother and been sexually > abused during adolescence, Virginia Woolf could have defined herself as a > victim. > > ?Instead, she wrote some of the most brilliant, experimental novels and > bold, path-breaking feminist critiques of the 20th century. Nothing she may > have said or done, off the record, in her private life or journals can or > should detract from the enormous impact she has had and continues to have.? > > > > Camden council?s audit eventually may result in QR codes being attached to > monuments so that people can scan them with their phones and be told about > the potentially fraught legacies of the people the statues represent. > > A spokesman said: ?We want to help our communities and visitors to develop > a greater understanding of statues and memorials in Camden.? > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danelljones at bresnan.net Sun Feb 20 15:56:52 2022 From: danelljones at bresnan.net (Danell Jones) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:56:52 -0700 Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? Message-ID: <3ebexf4v15-1@m0130872.ppops.net> So, in her diary entry on ?Stella & Jack?s Wedding Day,? Virginia writes, ?White rose leaves from S?s bouquet.? Apparently, white rose leaves were some kind of Victorian thing, but I don?t know what. Were these rose leaves painted white? Or simply the green leaves of white roses? Are they confections put in the bouquet? I would appreciate any help you can offer. Danell Sent from Mail for Windows -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com Mon Feb 21 06:47:45 2022 From: stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com (Stuart N. Clarke) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:47:45 -0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? In-Reply-To: <3ebexf4v15-1@m0130872.ppops.net> References: <3ebexf4v15-1@m0130872.ppops.net> Message-ID: Initially, I thought that it?s the old ?black cab driver? problem. However, one of the meanings of a ?rose leaf? is the petal of a rose. The other meaning is the leaf of a rose. Go figure. Stuart From: Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:56 PM To: VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? So, in her diary entry on ?Stella & Jack?s Wedding Day,? Virginia writes, ?White rose leaves from S?s bouquet.? Apparently, white rose leaves were some kind of Victorian thing, but I don?t know what. Were these rose leaves painted white? Or simply the green leaves of white roses? Are they confections put in the bouquet? I would appreciate any help you can offer. Danell Sent from Mail for Windows -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Have a nice day/week. mc Marie Claire Boisset Pestourie Address 2 rue Traversi?re, 19100 Brive-La-Gaillarde, France Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> Email mc at clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:47 PM Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Initially, I thought that it?s the old ?black cab driver? problem. > > However, one of the meanings of a ?rose leaf? is the petal of a rose. The > other meaning is the leaf of a rose. Go figure. > > Stuart > > *From:* Danell Jones via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:56 PM > *To:* VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu > *Subject:* [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? > > > So, in her diary entry on ?Stella & Jack?s Wedding Day,? Virginia writes, > ?White rose leaves from S?s bouquet.? > > > > Apparently, white rose leaves were some kind of Victorian thing, but I > don?t know what. Were these rose leaves painted white? Or simply the green > leaves of white roses? Are they confections put in the bouquet? > > > > I would appreciate any help you can offer. > > > > Danell > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail > > for Windows > > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sparks at clemson.edu Mon Feb 21 14:02:09 2022 From: sparks at clemson.edu (Elisa Sparks) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 19:02:09 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? In-Reply-To: References: <3ebexf4v15-1@m0130872.ppops.net> Message-ID: Having recently surveyed 274 appearances of roses in Woolf's writing, I can confirm Stuart's explanation. Woolf often uses "leaves" to refer to petals. It'sveryconfusingbut there are numerous examples where it is pretty clear she is referring to the flowers rather than the foliage. Elisa Kay Sparks Sent from my iPhone On Feb 21, 2022, at 8:41 AM, Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf wrote: ? Agree with Stuart - had the exact same thought process. And then also can't help read this as a micro haiku or poem of some sort, where "leaves" would be a verb - Stella (the white rose) leaves (= her marriage (had) meant she was leaving home), maybe also the idea of her death together with that of her marriage (I did not verify the diary entry date etc.) So maybe an underlying poetic meaning (not necessarily deliberate from W) that you might have sensed too if you asked? But again - Go figure. ?? Have a nice day/week. mc Marie Claire Boisset Pestourie [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/linkedin/0077b5/48/0.png__;!!KGKeukY!jPYRNmTJ8-824JwuR4VETUe2xGln43Z-6CW2SlPUoQZV8pWxD_UZEntfpK2Ut9BsN-2iyyUev48G$ ] Address 2 rue Traversi?re, 19100 Brive-La-Gaillarde, France Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email mc at clarior.net IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.wisestamp.com/widgets/green_32.png__;!!KGKeukY!jPYRNmTJ8-824JwuR4VETUe2xGln43Z-6CW2SlPUoQZV8pWxD_UZEntfpK2Ut9BsN-2iy2mmv5kG$ ] Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:47 PM Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf > wrote: Initially, I thought that it?s the old ?black cab driver? problem. However, one of the meanings of a ?rose leaf? is the petal of a rose. The other meaning is the leaf of a rose. Go figure. Stuart From: Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:56 PM To: VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? So, in her diary entry on ?Stella & Jack?s Wedding Day,? Virginia writes, ?White rose leaves from S?s bouquet.? Apparently, white rose leaves were some kind of Victorian thing, but I don?t know what. Were these rose leaves painted white? Or simply the green leaves of white roses? Are they confections put in the bouquet? I would appreciate any help you can offer. Danell Sent from Mail for Windows ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danelljones at bresnan.net Mon Feb 21 14:52:36 2022 From: danelljones at bresnan.net (Danell Jones) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 12:52:36 -0700 Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? In-Reply-To: References: <3ebexf4v15-1@m0130872.ppops.net> Message-ID: <3ebexfexb9-1@m0130872.ppops.net> I am so glad that you are doing such an extensive catalogue of Woolf botanical references, Elisa! That is wonderful. Thank you so much. Danell Sent from Mail for Windows From: Elisa Sparks Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 12:02 PM To: Marie Claire Boisset Cc: danelljones at bresnan.net; VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? Having recently surveyed 274 appearances of roses in Woolf's writing, I can confirm Stuart's explanation. ?Woolf often uses "leaves" to refer to petals. It'sveryconfusingbut there are numerous examples where it is pretty clear she is referring to the flowers rather than the foliage.? Elisa Kay Sparks Sent from my iPhone On Feb 21, 2022, at 8:41 AM, Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf wrote: ? Agree with Stuart - had the exact same thought process. And then also can't help read this as a micro haiku or poem of some sort,? where "leaves" would be a verb -? Stella (the white rose) leaves (= her marriage (had) meant she was leaving?home), maybe also the idea of her death together with that of her marriage (I did not verify the diary entry date etc.) So maybe an underlying poetic meaning (not necessarily deliberate from W) that you might have sensed too if you asked? But again - Go figure.??? Have a nice day/week.? mc Marie Claire Boisset Pestourie? Address??2 rue Traversi?re, 19100 Brive-La-Gaillarde, France?? Phone??+33 (0)5 55 88 29 61? Mobile?? +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21? Email??mc at clarior.net? IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof.? Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:47 PM Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: Initially, I thought that it?s the old ?black cab driver? problem. ? However, one of the meanings of a ?rose leaf? is the petal of a rose.? The other meaning is the leaf of a rose.? Go figure. ? Stuart ? From: Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:56 PM To: VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? ? So, in her diary entry on ?Stella & Jack?s Wedding Day,? Virginia writes, ?White rose leaves from S?s bouquet.? ? Apparently, white rose leaves were some kind of Victorian thing, but I don?t know what. Were these rose leaves painted white? Or simply the green leaves of white roses? Are they confections put in the bouquet? ? I would appreciate any help you can offer. ? Danell ? ? ? ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 8564068962C14708B5FBF79C341925B4.png Type: image/png Size: 138 bytes Desc: not available URL: From singingkitchen at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 17:23:48 2022 From: singingkitchen at gmail.com (Lorienne E Schwenk) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:23:48 -0800 Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? In-Reply-To: <3ebexfexb9-1@m0130872.ppops.net> References: <3ebexf4v15-1@m0130872.ppops.net> <3ebexfexb9-1@m0130872.ppops.net> Message-ID: some day I wish I could have a book of all the botanical references and I'd like to have them as many as possible in my garden!! Lorienne On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:52 AM Danell Jones via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > I am so glad that you are doing such an extensive catalogue of Woolf > botanical references, Elisa! That is wonderful. Thank you so much. > > > > Danell > > > > Sent from Mail > > for Windows > > > > *From: *Elisa Sparks > *Sent: *Monday, February 21, 2022 12:02 PM > *To: *Marie Claire Boisset > *Cc: *danelljones at bresnan.net; VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu > *Subject: *Re: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? > > > > Having recently surveyed 274 appearances of roses in Woolf's writing, I > can confirm Stuart's explanation. Woolf often uses "leaves" to refer to > petals. It'sveryconfusingbut there are numerous examples where it is pretty > clear she is referring to the flowers rather than the foliage. > > Elisa Kay Sparks > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Feb 21, 2022, at 8:41 AM, Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > ? > > Agree with Stuart - had the exact same thought process. > > > > And then also can't help read this as a micro haiku or poem of some sort, > > where "leaves" would be a verb - > > > > Stella (the white rose) leaves (= her marriage (had) meant she was > leaving home), > > maybe also the idea of her death together with that of her marriage (I did > not verify the diary entry date etc.) > > So maybe an underlying poetic meaning (not necessarily deliberate from W) > that you might have sensed too if you asked? > > > > But again - Go figure. ?? > > > > Have a nice day/week. > > > > mc > > > > *Marie Claire Boisset Pestourie* > > > > > *Address * 2 rue Traversi?re, 19100 Brive-La-Gaillarde, France > > > > *Phone * +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 <+33%20(0)5%2055%2088%2029%2061> > > > > *Mobile * +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 <+33%20(0)6%2038%2083%2073%2021> > > > > *Email * mc at clarior.net > > > > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you > have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately > and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. > > > > Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this > e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:47 PM Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > Initially, I thought that it?s the old ?black cab driver? problem. > > > > However, one of the meanings of a ?rose leaf? is the petal of a rose. The > other meaning is the leaf of a rose. Go figure. > > > > Stuart > > > > *From:* Danell Jones via Vwoolf > > *Sent:* Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:56 PM > > *To:* VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu > > *Subject:* [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? > > > > So, in her diary entry on ?Stella & Jack?s Wedding Day,? Virginia writes, > ?White rose leaves from S?s bouquet.? > > > > Apparently, white rose leaves were some kind of Victorian thing, but I > don?t know what. Were these rose leaves painted white? Or simply the green > leaves of white roses? Are they confections put in the bouquet? > > > > I would appreciate any help you can offer. > > > > Danell > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail > > for Windows > > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -- The Singing Kitchen Lorienne Schwenk, Personal Chef and Nutritional Mentor Cambria, California Number: 805.200.7908 eat food - not too much - mostly plants -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <3ebexf4v15-1@m0130872.ppops.net> Message-ID: Shorter Oxford (old ed.), sense 2: A petal; esp. in rose-leaf (popular). 1565 Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Caroline Webb via Vwoolf Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 1:15:24 AM To: Stuart N. Clarke ; VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? Ah ha! As in ?rose-leaf complexion.? I always wondered about that, since rose leaves are shiny and dark green. Caroline From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf Sent: Monday, 21 February 2022 10:48 PM To: VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? Initially, I thought that it?s the old ?black cab driver? problem. However, one of the meanings of a ?rose leaf? is the petal of a rose. The other meaning is the leaf of a rose. Go figure. Stuart From: Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:56 PM To: VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? So, in her diary entry on ?Stella & Jack?s Wedding Day,? Virginia writes, ?White rose leaves from S?s bouquet.? Apparently, white rose leaves were some kind of Victorian thing, but I don?t know what. Were these rose leaves painted white? Or simply the green leaves of white roses? Are they confections put in the bouquet? I would appreciate any help you can offer. Danell Sent from Mail for Windows ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mc at clarior.net Tue Feb 22 02:58:40 2022 From: mc at clarior.net (Marie Claire Boisset) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:58:40 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The good old OED, of course - always step 1 when these types of questions arise: before Woolf, Shakespeare & Shelley etc. used ? leaf ? in the sense of ? petal ? - thank you Jeremy for the OED reminder. I should have checked first. I do maintain the light poetic undertone of ? leaves ? though, after all. Marie Claire Boisset Pestourie Translations Address 2 rue Traversi?re, 19100 Brive-La-Gaillarde, France Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email mc at clarior.net > Le 22 f?vr. 2022 ? 08:42, Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf a ?crit : > > ? > Shorter Oxford (old ed.), sense 2: A petal; esp. in rose-leaf (popular). 1565 > > Get Outlook for iOS > From: Vwoolf on behalf of Caroline Webb via Vwoolf > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 1:15:24 AM > To: Stuart N. Clarke ; VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? > > Ah ha! As in ?rose-leaf complexion.? I always wondered about that, since rose leaves are shiny and dark green. > Caroline > > From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf > Sent: Monday, 21 February 2022 10:48 PM > To: VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? > > Initially, I thought that it?s the old ?black cab driver? problem. > > However, one of the meanings of a ?rose leaf? is the petal of a rose. The other meaning is the leaf of a rose. Go figure. > > Stuart > > From: Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:56 PM > To: VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? > > So, in her diary entry on ?Stella & Jack?s Wedding Day,? Virginia writes, ?White rose leaves from S?s bouquet.? > > Apparently, white rose leaves were some kind of Victorian thing, but I don?t know what. Were these rose leaves painted white? Or simply the green leaves of white roses? Are they confections put in the bouquet? > > I would appreciate any help you can offer. > > Danell > > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 185553 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mc at clarior.net Tue Feb 22 03:27:59 2022 From: mc at clarior.net (Marie Claire Boisset) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 09:27:59 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fwd: White Rose Leaves? References: Message-ID: <93F28B0B-EAD9-4A72-BDBA-9CC7819C2BE9@clarior.net> Btw - image inserted below the previous message - in case it was missed. From the micro 3 vols inexpensive edition of the OED - bought some (30!) years ago. One needs a camera zoom or magnifying glass. ?the OED Marie Claire Boisset Pestourie Translations Address 2 rue Traversi?re, 19100 Brive-La-Gaillarde, France Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email mc at clarior.net D?but du message transf?r? : > De: Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf > Date: 22 f?vrier 2022 ? 08:58:58 UTC+1 > ?: Jeremy Hawthorn > Cc: VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu > Objet: R?p. : [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? > R?pondre ?: Marie Claire Boisset > > ?The good old OED, of course - always step 1 when these types of questions arise: before Woolf, Shakespeare & Shelley etc. used ? leaf ? in the sense of ? petal ? - thank you Jeremy for the OED reminder. I should have checked first. > I do maintain the light poetic undertone of ? leaves ? though, after all. > > > > Marie Claire Boisset Pestourie > Translations > > Address 2 rue Traversi?re, 19100 Brive-La-Gaillarde, France > Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 > Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 > Email mc at clarior.net > > > > >>> Le 22 f?vr. 2022 ? 08:42, Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf a ?crit : >>> >> ? >> Shorter Oxford (old ed.), sense 2: A petal; esp. in rose-leaf (popular). 1565 >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> From: Vwoolf on behalf of Caroline Webb via Vwoolf >> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 1:15:24 AM >> To: Stuart N. Clarke ; VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu >> Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? >> >> Ah ha! As in ?rose-leaf complexion.? I always wondered about that, since rose leaves are shiny and dark green. >> Caroline >> >> From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf >> Sent: Monday, 21 February 2022 10:48 PM >> To: VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu >> Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? >> >> Initially, I thought that it?s the old ?black cab driver? problem. >> >> However, one of the meanings of a ?rose leaf? is the petal of a rose. The other meaning is the leaf of a rose. Go figure. >> >> Stuart >> >> From: Danell Jones via Vwoolf >> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:56 PM >> To: VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu >> Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? >> >> So, in her diary entry on ?Stella & Jack?s Wedding Day,? Virginia writes, ?White rose leaves from S?s bouquet.? >> >> Apparently, white rose leaves were some kind of Victorian thing, but I don?t know what. Were these rose leaves painted white? Or simply the green leaves of white roses? 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Because of changes to shipping rules and regulations I am no longer able to ship to Europe/overseas, so am providing a link to the London Review Bookshop who stock my pamphlets and can ship to anywhere! https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.londonreviewbookshop.co.uk/stock/the-journey-to-my-sister-s-house-virginia-woolf-on-the-south-downs-louisa-albani__;!!KGKeukY!m1JMvwxrNE_nxV0UpE1l1zt_RG9Fqf-dj22TUzbndThDmf-CAkZJrGr4Y1FK58yuNbQ$ Thank you again for your collective support for artists and small Press publishers. -- Louisa Albani, artworks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mc at clarior.net Tue Feb 22 04:38:31 2022 From: mc at clarior.net (Marie Claire Boisset) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 10:38:31 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? In-Reply-To: <6213ed86.1c69fb81.0d78.2747SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <6213ed86.1c69fb81.0d78.2747SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5E0C474E-13CE-454D-97BD-6ECF136EA707@clarior.net> Agree. Love the idea of a Woolf botanical catalogue after her garden(s) & works. Indeed - congratulations to Elisa!!? For the ? rose-leaf complexion ?, I thought of this picture (see below) of a wild rose taken on one walk in May of last year in the Dordogne. Just for an advance taste of spring on a grim rainy day: With ?to all ? MC Marie Claire Boisset Pestourie Translations Address 2 rue Traversi?re, 19100 Brive-La-Gaillarde, France Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 Email mc at clarior.net > Le 21 f?vr. 2022 ? 20:52, Danell Jones a ?crit : > > ? > I am so glad that you are doing such an extensive catalogue of Woolf botanical references, Elisa! That is wonderful. Thank you so much. > > Danell > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > From: Elisa Sparks > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 12:02 PM > To: Marie Claire Boisset > Cc: danelljones at bresnan.net; VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? > > Having recently surveyed 274 appearances of roses in Woolf's writing, I can confirm Stuart's explanation. Woolf often uses "leaves" to refer to petals. It'sveryconfusingbut there are numerous examples where it is pretty clear she is referring to the flowers rather than the foliage. > Elisa Kay Sparks > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 21, 2022, at 8:41 AM, Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf wrote: > > ? > Agree with Stuart - had the exact same thought process. > > And then also can't help read this as a micro haiku or poem of some sort, > where "leaves" would be a verb - > > Stella (the white rose) leaves (= her marriage (had) meant she was leaving home), > maybe also the idea of her death together with that of her marriage (I did not verify the diary entry date etc.) > So maybe an underlying poetic meaning (not necessarily deliberate from W) that you might have sensed too if you asked? > > But again - Go figure. ?? > > Have a nice day/week. > > mc > > Marie Claire Boisset Pestourie > > Address 2 rue Traversi?re, 19100 Brive-La-Gaillarde, France > Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 > Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 > Email mc at clarior.net > > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. > > Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:47 PM Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: > Initially, I thought that it?s the old ?black cab driver? problem. > > However, one of the meanings of a ?rose leaf? is the petal of a rose. The other meaning is the leaf of a rose. Go figure. > > Stuart > > From: Danell Jones via Vwoolf > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:56 PM > To: VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? > > So, in her diary entry on ?Stella & Jack?s Wedding Day,? Virginia writes, ?White rose leaves from S?s bouquet.? > > Apparently, white rose leaves were some kind of Victorian thing, but I don?t know what. 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I believe that Elisa's Virginia Woolf Herbarium (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://woolfherbarium.blogspot.com__;!!KGKeukY!lFPdj9WFpIs_dJD1WV3FBWhMlgjIr_1mZHHHJzottJYOYo7Xham5M4tEtRAoFxSodTADTA2sVn5Q$ ) has been of great help. Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Monday, 21 February 2022, 22:24:13 GMT, Lorienne E Schwenk via Vwoolf wrote: some day I wish I could have a book of all the botanical references and I'd like to have them as many as possible in my garden!! Lorienne On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:52 AM Danell Jones via Vwoolf wrote: I am so glad that you are doing such an extensive catalogue of Woolf botanical references, Elisa! That is wonderful. Thank you so much. ? Danell ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? From: Elisa Sparks Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 12:02 PM To: Marie Claire Boisset Cc: danelljones at bresnan.net; VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? ? Having recently surveyed 274 appearances of roses in Woolf's writing, I can confirm Stuart's explanation.? Woolf often uses "leaves" to refer to petals. It'sveryconfusingbut there are numerous examples where it is pretty clear she is referring to the flowers rather than the foliage.? Elisa Kay Sparks Sent from my iPhone On Feb 21, 2022, at 8:41 AM, Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf wrote: ? Agree with Stuart - had the exact same thought process. ? And then also can't help read this as a micro haiku or poem of some sort,? where "leaves" would be a verb -? ? Stella (the white rose) leaves (= her marriage (had) meant she was leaving?home), maybe also the idea of her death together with that of her marriage (I did not verify the diary entry date etc.) So maybe an underlying poetic meaning (not necessarily deliberate from W) that you might have sensed too if you asked? ? But again - Go figure.??? ? Have a nice day/week.? ? mc ? | | | | | Marie Claire Boisset Pestourie? | | | | | | | | Address??2 rue Traversi?re, 19100 Brive-La-Gaillarde, France?? | ? | Phone??+33 (0)5 55 88 29 61? | ? | Mobile?? +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21? | ? | Email??mc at clarior.net? | | | | | ? | | IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof.? | ? | | | Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. | | | ? ? On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:47 PM Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: Initially, I thought that it?s the old ?black cab driver? problem. ? However, one of the meanings of a ?rose leaf? is the petal of a rose.? The other meaning is the leaf of a rose.? Go figure. ? Stuart ? From: Danell Jones via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:56 PM To: VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? ? So, in her diary entry on ?Stella & Jack?s Wedding Day,? Virginia writes, ?White rose leaves from S?s bouquet.? ? Apparently, white rose leaves were some kind of Victorian thing, but I don?t know what. Were these rose leaves painted white? Or simply the green leaves of white roses? Are they confections put in the bouquet? ? I would appreciate any help you can offer. ? Danell ? ? ? ? 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Hall via Vwoolf a ?crit : > > ? > Polly Carter, the gardener at Talland House in St Ives, is attempting to restore the garden to what it was in VW's day, according to plants and structures mentioned in her writings. I believe that Elisa's Virginia Woolf Herbarium (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://woolfherbarium.blogspot.com__;!!KGKeukY!jNE0CRe4crYFaffe0resTRRL8FVWRtGuAVwxkHGNkTlh62JEgTuubpRRnLK_DRoAfScoaxiRdcXZ$ ) has been of great help. > > Sarah > > > Sarah M. Hall > Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB > Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk > Facebook: @VWSGB > Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB > Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety > > > > > On Monday, 21 February 2022, 22:24:13 GMT, Lorienne E Schwenk via Vwoolf wrote: > > > some day I wish I could have a book of all the botanical references and I'd like to have them as many as possible in my garden!! > > Lorienne > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:52 AM Danell Jones via Vwoolf wrote: > I am so glad that you are doing such an extensive catalogue of Woolf botanical references, Elisa! That is wonderful. Thank you so much. > > > > Danell > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > > > From: Elisa Sparks > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 12:02 PM > To: Marie Claire Boisset > Cc: danelljones at bresnan.net; VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? > > > > Having recently surveyed 274 appearances of roses in Woolf's writing, I can confirm Stuart's explanation. Woolf often uses "leaves" to refer to petals. It'sveryconfusingbut there are numerous examples where it is pretty clear she is referring to the flowers rather than the foliage. > > Elisa Kay Sparks > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Feb 21, 2022, at 8:41 AM, Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf wrote: > > ? > > Agree with Stuart - had the exact same thought process. > > > > And then also can't help read this as a micro haiku or poem of some sort, > > where "leaves" would be a verb - > > > > Stella (the white rose) leaves (= her marriage (had) meant she was leaving home), > > maybe also the idea of her death together with that of her marriage (I did not verify the diary entry date etc.) > > So maybe an underlying poetic meaning (not necessarily deliberate from W) that you might have sensed too if you asked? > > > > But again - Go figure. ?? > > > > Have a nice day/week. > > > > mc > > > > Marie Claire Boisset Pestourie > > > > Address 2 rue Traversi?re, 19100 Brive-La-Gaillarde, France > > Phone +33 (0)5 55 88 29 61 > > Mobile +33 (0)6 38 83 73 21 > > Email mc at clarior.net > > > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. > > > Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy. > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:47 PM Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote: > > Initially, I thought that it?s the old ?black cab driver? problem. > > > > However, one of the meanings of a ?rose leaf? is the petal of a rose. The other meaning is the leaf of a rose. Go figure. > > > > Stuart > > > > From: Danell Jones via Vwoolf > > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:56 PM > > To: VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu > > Subject: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves? > > > > So, in her diary entry on ?Stella & Jack?s Wedding Day,? Virginia writes, ?White rose leaves from S?s bouquet.? > > > > Apparently, white rose leaves were some kind of Victorian thing, but I don?t know what. Were these rose leaves painted white? Or simply the green leaves of white roses? Are they confections put in the bouquet? > > > > I would appreciate any help you can offer. > > > > Danell > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > > -- > The Singing Kitchen > Lorienne Schwenk, > Personal Chef and Nutritional Mentor > Cambria, California > Number: 805.200.7908 > > eat food - not too much - mostly plants > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The first two links below are behind the Times paywall (I don't have a subscription): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https:**Awww.thetimes.co.uk*article*virginia-woolf-bloomsbury-bust-racism-list-london-k9nwmh0db&ct=ga&cd=CAEYACoUMTQ2NjIzOTE4MTg5ODkwODAyOTEyGjBkYTBmODkyM2NkNWMyMDM6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNEdhXFawEx4jV8L4Kgrz8I1PS-arw__;Ly8vLw!!KGKeukY!jOVH_fzVO0FPU6X2iVXtg7RcHw-ym-zmw9ejB8lRe7LfCXYPvHu76Zdp9TOQQ3sJuZc$ https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-times-view-on-virginia-woolfs-bloomsbury-bust-culture-clash-pr5k3r9hx__;!!KGKeukY!jOVH_fzVO0FPU6X2iVXtg7RcHw-ym-zmw9ejB8lRe7LfCXYPvHu76Zdp9TOQw8McXOo$ Accessible: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/authors/virginia-woolf-shouldnt-cancelled-influence-has-overwhelmingly/__;!!KGKeukY!jOVH_fzVO0FPU6X2iVXtg7RcHw-ym-zmw9ejB8lRe7LfCXYPvHu76Zdp9TOQCXOJCbM$ Accessible, but it's probably better to read text below and avoid having to view the irritating Express.co.uk website https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1569141/local-councillors-woke-actions-virginia-woolf-statue-james-whale__;!!KGKeukY!jOVH_fzVO0FPU6X2iVXtg7RcHw-ym-zmw9ejB8lRe7LfCXYPvHu76Zdp9TOQzoZ41DM$ Woke councillors are the Woolf at the door, says JAMES WHALE I SEE the bronze statue of Virginia Woolf in Bloomsbury, London, is on the woke hit list now. Apparently the good Labour councillors of Camden are compiling a tally of people who they think may have been racist. It?s got to be one of the most stupid, time-wasting exercises going on anywhere. Virginia Woolf?s novels have been translated into more than 50 languages. She was part of the Bloomsbury group of radical thinkers and writers from the early part of the last century. To judge people from the past without taking into account what was thought to be acceptable at the time is utterly ridiculous. It?s as though these woke campaigners are trying to time travel to adjust the way people thought and acted to modern standards. It?s a shame, but people who stand as local councillors are not always the brightest. Maybe there?s a crowd of them who actually believe they know what they?re doing. Local politics is very important: it often has more effect on us than any other political dealings. But episodes such as this suggest there?s maybe a wiser way, considering the majority of people who would be better at it are far too busy earning a living and paying tax to keep the country on its feet. Happy Wednesday! Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women's and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.travis at frontier.com Wed Feb 23 16:27:05 2022 From: mark.travis at frontier.com (Mark Scott) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 13:27:05 -0800 Subject: [Vwoolf] Google alerts: more about the battle of the bust.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Telegraph article is also behind a paywall. Thank you for copying and pasting the text from the Express article. Mark Scott Common Reader From: Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2022 9:39 AM To: vwoolf listerve Subject: [Vwoolf] Google alerts: more about the battle of the bust.... Greetings, A few more articles... 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URL: From M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk Wed Feb 23 16:41:33 2022 From: M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk (Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 21:41:33 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Google alerts: more about the battle of the bust.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Woolfians, Just to clarify for everyone. The two Times articles and the Telegraph article are the same articles I cut and pasted into emails sent to the Woolf list on 16th, 17th and 18th February. Warm wishes, Marielle From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Mark Scott via Vwoolf Sent: 23 February 2022 21:27 To: Neverow, Vara S. ; vwoolf listerve Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Google alerts: more about the battle of the bust.... The Telegraph article is also behind a paywall. Thank you for copying and pasting the text from the Express article. Mark Scott Common Reader From: Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2022 9:39 AM To: vwoolf listerve Subject: [Vwoolf] Google alerts: more about the battle of the bust.... Greetings, A few more articles... The first two links below are behind the Times paywall (I don't have a subscription): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https:**Awww.thetimes.co.uk*article*virginia-woolf-bloomsbury-bust-racism-list-london-k9nwmh0db&ct=ga&cd=CAEYACoUMTQ2NjIzOTE4MTg5ODkwODAyOTEyGjBkYTBmODkyM2NkNWMyMDM6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNEdhXFawEx4jV8L4Kgrz8I1PS-arw__;Ly8vLw!!KGKeukY!lTsYTnVmVFwbh3qS7MoZzUuMk_QEfYcW6Fawm8cmRZ7JsWPnwcwkFUeIdVQYrE-lAwU$ https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-times-view-on-virginia-woolfs-bloomsbury-bust-culture-clash-pr5k3r9hx__;!!KGKeukY!lTsYTnVmVFwbh3qS7MoZzUuMk_QEfYcW6Fawm8cmRZ7JsWPnwcwkFUeIdVQYoT_0wG8$ Accessible: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/authors/virginia-woolf-shouldnt-cancelled-influence-has-overwhelmingly/__;!!KGKeukY!lTsYTnVmVFwbh3qS7MoZzUuMk_QEfYcW6Fawm8cmRZ7JsWPnwcwkFUeIdVQYrdyOyEc$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can access the article here: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://muse.jhu.edu/article/843023__;!!KGKeukY!nTNvD_FO7axqUnq_e7sCvMs-04OcisJzzmQPym4KPZS-33zp29mdRsInoRWZZXGddSc$ If you are interested in it but have a hard time accessing it, please message me. @ Woolf Salon organizers: Maybe we should have a Salon about Woolf's pacifism sometime in the summer. I would be happy to lead it (or perhaps co-lead it with Ashley). Unfortunately I won't be able to do so earlier. Sending peace and love to everyone, and the strength to wake up from the nightmare of history, Laura -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 11:12 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] We should be afraid of Virginia Woolf - The Critic Dear Woolfians, Another article re. the bust of VW: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://thecritic.co.uk/we-should-be-afraid-of-virginia-woolf/__;!!KGKeukY!lc8wi3OCsPd1mQtWaD83tJlfg8YEtsU_AwPic7r2OP_QVzAhpgsuJm6S4rXg8_C2JKo$ Warm wishes, Marielle Ms Marielle O'Neill Postgraduate Researcher, Leeds Trinity University Executive Council Member, Virginia Woolf Society of Great Britain M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/events/__;!!KGKeukY!lc8wi3OCsPd1mQtWaD83tJlfg8YEtsU_AwPic7r2OP_QVzAhpgsuJm6S4rXg9eBKgI0$ She/Her -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 24 13:11:58 2022 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 18:11:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] We should be afraid of Virginia Woolf - The Critic In-Reply-To: <002501d829a6$48fab710$daf02530$@verizon.net> References: <002501d829a6$48fab710$daf02530$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1809381361.3085097.1645726318295@mail.yahoo.com> Owned by Locomotive 6960 Ltd, whose director is this personage: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Hosking__;!!KGKeukY!nbBrB2tVSLy-ZJx0jvj8k3-nukgR4WPuX3-ZgC5lr9UHsOz091nNkVAXW1AX75u7Du0$ 'Political activity' is an interesting section. On Thursday, 24 February 2022, 17:45:28 GMT, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: Thanks for posting this poorly-informed diatribe, Marielle. Is ?The Critic? one of Rupert Murdoch?s publications? ? From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 11:12 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] We should be afraid of Virginia Woolf - The Critic ? Dear Woolfians, ? Another article re. the bust of VW: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://thecritic.co.uk/we-should-be-afraid-of-virginia-woolf/__;!!KGKeukY!nbBrB2tVSLy-ZJx0jvj8k3-nukgR4WPuX3-ZgC5lr9UHsOz091nNkVAXW1AXQg5a1gc$ ? Warm wishes, Marielle ? ? Ms Marielle O?Neill Postgraduate Researcher, Leeds Trinity University Executive Council Member, Virginia Woolf Society of Great Britain M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/events/__;!!KGKeukY!nbBrB2tVSLy-ZJx0jvj8k3-nukgR4WPuX3-ZgC5lr9UHsOz091nNkVAXW1AXH28Tz18$ She/Her _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Feb 25 06:43:19 2022 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 11:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] VWSGB April Conference (London) References: <599671594.3413612.1645789399213.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <599671594.3413612.1645789399213@mail.yahoo.com> Dear Woolfians, A VWSGB event taking place in London this April. After a priority booking period for members, the conference has been opened up to non-members. * 1922: Modernism Voyages Out ? NOW OPEN TO NON-MEMBERS * Saturday 9 April 2022, 10am?4pm Birkbeck, University of London, Malet Street, London WC1E 7HX This April?s AGM Conference will celebrate 1922, the Great Year of Modernism, the year in which Virginia Woolf?s Jacob?s Room, T. S. Eliot?s The Waste Land and James Joyce?s Ulysses were all published. We will welcome expert speakers on all three of these important books. * Sue Roe: 'A New Form for a New Novel: Writing Jacob?s Room' * Lyndall Gordon: 'Eliot?s Tie to the Woolfs: From 1918 to The Waste Land' * Finn Fordham: 'Pushing Against the Streams of Consciousness in Ulysses and Mrs. Dalloway' Tickets ?28 members, ?35 non-members. Please email Lynne Newland for further details and to book: lynne at newlandmail.com The conference includes the AGM, which is for members only (no charge to attend AGM). NB Birkbeck are unable to supply catering for this event, but there is a caf? in the building. To join the VWSGB and get a discount on this and other events, see: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/membership For those of you willing to tweet about the event (thanks!): VWSGB AGM Conference Sat 9 April 2022 celebrates 1922, the Great Year of Modernism, with speakers on Virginia Woolf?s Jacob?s Room, T. S. Eliot?s The Waste Land and James Joyce?s Ulysses. ?28 members, ?35 non-members. Book and/or join VWSGB at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kllevenback at att.net Sat Feb 26 05:42:46 2022 From: kllevenback at att.net (Kllevenback) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 05:42:46 -0500 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Mrs=2E_Dalloway_is_part_of_the_canon=E2=80=A6b?= =?utf-8?q?ut_oh_those_editions=E2=80=A6=2EIndex=2C_A_History_of_the=3A_A_?= =?utf-8?q?Bookish_Adventure_from_Medieval_Manuscripts_to_the_Digital_Age?= =?utf-8?q?=3A_Duncan=2C_Dennis?= References: <4DFDF8AD-9002-4076-98AA-860B0459BE81.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <4DFDF8AD-9002-4076-98AA-860B0459BE81@att.net> ? An assignment in MRS DALLOWAY is used as an example?and raises the issue of teaching it when students have difference editions. Sound familiar? Karen Levenback https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.amazon.com/Index-History-Adventure-Medieval-Manuscripts/dp/1324002549/ref=sr_1_1_sspacrid=2N663XRWR05Y4&keywords=index*2C*a*history*of*the*by*dennis*duncan&qid=1645871484&s=books&sprefix=Index*2Cstripbooks*2C144&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&asin=B098TZ17NC&revisionId=65c2c8a4&format=1&depth=1__;JSsrKysrKyslJQ!!KGKeukY!n6E9_6DW8I2Cqra9eg4aYsL7O5UrNypAEIfJNUrYnCyj9uimLp_NUp9ovSwa6tY3IAE$ Sent from my iPad From jeremy.hawthorn at ntnu.no Sat Feb 26 07:09:48 2022 From: jeremy.hawthorn at ntnu.no (Jeremy Hawthorn) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:09:48 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Mrs=2E_Dalloway_is_part_of_the_canon=E2=80=A6b?= =?utf-8?q?ut_oh_those_editions=E2=80=A6=2EIndex=2C_A_History_of_the=3A_A_?= =?utf-8?q?Bookish_Adventure_from_Medieval_Manuscripts_to_the_Digital_Age?= =?utf-8?q?=3A_Duncan=2C_Dennis?= In-Reply-To: <4DFDF8AD-9002-4076-98AA-860B0459BE81@att.net> References: <4DFDF8AD-9002-4076-98AA-860B0459BE81.ref@att.net> <4DFDF8AD-9002-4076-98AA-860B0459BE81@att.net> Message-ID: To get the Dalloway reference you have to open the link, then click "See Inside" and search for Dalloway. The discussion notes that the problem of students having different editions belongs very much to yesterday; today students are all using electronic editions and can find the right place in the text in the shake of a lamb's tail if they just have the start of a sentence. In one way this is clearly an advantage. But I fear that it sounds the death knell of student editions of classic (= out of copyright) literary texts, with their introductions, textual histories, and explanatory notes. Jeremy H -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Vwoolf P? vegne av Kllevenback via Vwoolf Sendt: l?rdag 26. februar 2022 11:43 Til: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Emne: [Vwoolf] Mrs. Dalloway is part of the canon?but oh those editions?.Index, A History of the: A Bookish Adventure from Medieval Manuscripts to the Digital Age: Duncan, Dennis An assignment in MRS DALLOWAY is used as an example?and raises the issue of teaching it when students have difference editions. Sound familiar? Karen Levenback https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.amazon.com/Index-History-Adventure-Medieval-Manuscripts/dp/1324002549/ref=sr_1_1_sspacrid=2N663XRWR05Y4&keywords=index*2C*a*history*of*the*by*dennis*duncan&qid=1645871484&s=books&sprefix=Index*2Cstripbooks*2C144&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&asin=B098TZ17NC&revisionId=65c2c8a4&format=1&depth=1__;JSsrKysrKyslJQ!!KGKeukY!n6E9_6DW8I2Cqra9eg4aYsL7O5UrNypAEIfJNUrYnCyj9uimLp_NUp9ovSwa6tY3IAE$ Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf From stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com Sat Feb 26 07:34:06 2022 From: stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com (Stuart N. Clarke) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:34:06 -0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] SMITH, Logan Pearsall (ed.), "A Treasury of English Prose"* (London: Constable, 1919), pp. 198-9 Message-ID: REFUGEES AT RYE It was in September, in a tiny Sussex town which I had not quitted since the outbreak of the war, and where the advent of our first handful of fugitives before the warning of Louvain and Aerschoot and Termonde and Dinant had just been announced. Our small hill-top city, covering the steep sides of the compact pedestal crowned by its great church, had reserved a refuge at its highest point; and we had waited all day, from occasional train to train, for the moment at which we should attest our hospitality. It came at last, but late in the evening, when a vague outside rumour called me to my doorstep, where the unforgettable impression at once assaulted me. Up the precipitous little street that led from the station, over the old grass-grown cobbles where vehicles rarely pass, came the panting procession of the homeless and their comforting, their almost clinging entertainers, who seemed to hurry them on as in a sort of overflow of expression of the fever of charity. It was swift and eager, in the autumn darkness and under the flare of a single lamp - with no vociferation and, but for a woman's voice, scarce a sound save the shuffle of mounting feet and the thick-drawn breath of emotion. The note I except, however, was that of a young mother carrying her small child and surrounded by those who bore her on and on, almost lifting her as they went together. The resonance through our immemorial old street of her sobbing and sobbing cry was the voice itself of history; it brought home to me more things than I could then quite take the measure of, and these just because it expressed for her not direct anguish, but the incredibility, as who should say, of honest assured protection. Months have elapsed, and from having been then one of a few hundred she is now one of scores and scores of thousands: yet her cry is still in my ears, whether to speak most of what she had lately or of what she actually felt; and it plays, to my own sense, as a great fitful, tragic light over the dark exposure of her people. Within the Rim, pp. 57-9. * Reviewed by VW: ?English Prose?, E3 171?6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The students might have different versions of a text with the same title, and no amount of electronic searching will find in one edition of Mrs Dalloway (the US, for example) what is not in another (the UK, for example). -----Original Message----- From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 7:10 AM To: Kllevenback ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Mrs. Dalloway is part of the canon?but oh those editions?.Index, A History of the: A Bookish Adventure from Medieval Manuscripts to the Digital Age: Duncan, Dennis To get the Dalloway reference you have to open the link, then click "See Inside" and search for Dalloway. The discussion notes that the problem of students having different editions belongs very much to yesterday; today students are all using electronic editions and can find the right place in the text in the shake of a lamb's tail if they just have the start of a sentence. In one way this is clearly an advantage. But I fear that it sounds the death knell of student editions of classic (= out of copyright) literary texts, with their introductions, textual histories, and explanatory notes. Jeremy H -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Vwoolf P? vegne av Kllevenback via Vwoolf Sendt: l?rdag 26. februar 2022 11:43 Til: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Emne: [Vwoolf] Mrs. Dalloway is part of the canon?but oh those editions?.Index, A History of the: A Bookish Adventure from Medieval Manuscripts to the Digital Age: Duncan, Dennis An assignment in MRS DALLOWAY is used as an example?and raises the issue of teaching it when students have difference editions. Sound familiar? Karen Levenback https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.amazon.com/Index-History-Adventure-Medieval-Manuscripts/dp/1324002549/ref=sr_1_1_sspacrid=2N663XRWR05Y4&keywords=index*2C*a*history*of*the*by*dennis*duncan&qid=1645871484&s=books&sprefix=Index*2Cstripbooks*2C144&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&asin=B098TZ17NC&revisionId=65c2c8a4&format=1&depth=1__;JSsrKysrKyslJQ!!KGKeukY!n6E9_6DW8I2Cqra9eg4aYsL7O5UrNypAEIfJNUrYnCyj9uimLp_NUp9ovSwa6tY3IAE$ Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf From kllevenback at att.net Sat Feb 26 09:22:52 2022 From: kllevenback at att.net (Kllevenback) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 09:22:52 -0500 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?=5BThe_Washington_Post=5D_Review_=7C_Sure=2C_G?= =?utf-8?q?oogle_is_handy=2C_but_what_about_the_mighty_book_index=3F__This?= =?utf-8?q?_review_mentions_Virginia_Woolf=E2=80=99s_ORLANDO=E2=80=A6=2E?= References: Message-ID: ? But, the reviewer says, ?Th[e chapter in question] is rather skimpy.? Ah well?.. Karen Levenback Review | Sure, Google is handy, but what about the mighty book index? In ?Index, a History of The,? scholar Dennis Duncan delivers an informative and witty history of those oft-overlooked back pages. By Steven Moore https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2022/02/18/index-book/__;!!KGKeukY!hMWy4mwebxlgCViQROSkatHBzL82P0RXo4YGJlp1ekxR9WUqv9tBO6nXSI8mrdnyd5w$ Download The Washington Post app. Sent from my iPad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Sat Feb 26 20:06:03 2022 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 01:06:03 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?windows-1252?q?Tilda_Swinton_as_a_curator=3A_revisitin?= =?windows-1252?q?g_Virginia_Woolfs=92_novel_Orlando_through_the_eyes_of_e?= =?windows-1252?q?leven_artists_-_Vogue?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, Building on Marielle O'Neill's post regarding Swinton's current exhibit, you may also want to access Anne Byrne's review of the original 2019 Aperture exhibit (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/virginia-woolf-miscellany-issue-96-fall-2019-fall-2020/--pages__;!!KGKeukY!kFEKItEMEC7Arjk76r8oWw7FgrdwABIEAor4BLphCZlc_sH43cgnuaY_5AsVCz16xfw$ 43-45; due to the restrictions of the size of documents on the VWoolf listerv, I cannot attach a PDF of the article since it is illustrated). The website from the original Aperture exhibit is still accessible: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://aperture.org/exhibitions/orlando/__;!!KGKeukY!kFEKItEMEC7Arjk76r8oWw7FgrdwABIEAor4BLphCZlc_sH43cgnuaY_5AsVfJ4BzDE$ . Also, there is a publication from the exhibit: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://aperture.org/editorial/aperture-235-tilda-swinton/__;!!KGKeukY!kFEKItEMEC7Arjk76r8oWw7FgrdwABIEAor4BLphCZlc_sH43cgnuaY_5AsVclSkEQ4$ and https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://smile.amazon.com/Orlando-Aperture-235-Magazine/dp/1597114618/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3IRUFM5Z38NER&keywords=aperture*swinton&qid=1645923779&sprefix=aperture*swinton*2Caps*2C78&sr=8-2__;KyslJQ!!KGKeukY!kFEKItEMEC7Arjk76r8oWw7FgrdwABIEAor4BLphCZlc_sH43cgnuaY_5AsVwNpBQF8$ Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women's and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 7:36 PM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Tilda Swinton as a curator: revisiting Virginia Woolfs? novel Orlando through the eyes of eleven artists - Vogue Dear Woolfians, The latest on Woolf and Fashion: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.vogue.com/article/tilda-swinton-as-a-curator-revisiting-virginia-woolfs-novel-orlando-through-the-eyes-of-eleven-artists__;!!KGKeukY!kFEKItEMEC7Arjk76r8oWw7FgrdwABIEAor4BLphCZlc_sH43cgnuaY_5AsVBt5y6L4$ Warm wishes, Marielle Marielle O?Neill Postgraduate Researcher, Leeds Trinity University Executive Council Member, Virginia Woolf Society of Great Britain https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/events/__;!!KGKeukY!kFEKItEMEC7Arjk76r8oWw7FgrdwABIEAor4BLphCZlc_sH43cgnuaY_5AsVsSdD4kI$ Programming Co-chair, Outside/rs 2022 Conference https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://outsiders2022.wordpress.com/__;!!KGKeukY!kFEKItEMEC7Arjk76r8oWw7FgrdwABIEAor4BLphCZlc_sH43cgnuaY_5AsVAEmZ20E$ m.oneill at leedstrinity.ac.uk Pronouns: She/Her -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"It grew from a circulation of four million in 1935 to nearly 12 million in 1957 ...?? (Wikipedia) With a circulation like that, yet none of you noticed that one issue contained a *signed* story by Virginia Woolf. Any European would say ?Es ist unglaublich!? Until now, we have only known ?Gipsy, the Mongrel? in draft form ? instead of the published version, ?The Little Dog Laughed?. We will be republishing it in the May issue of the ?Virginia Woolf Bulletin?. Stuart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 27 05:51:08 2022 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 10:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_NYTimes=3A_How_a_Book_Is_Made=E2=80=94n?= =?utf-8?q?ot_Virginia_Woolf_or_Cecil_Woolf_=28alas!=29_but_interesting?= In-Reply-To: References: <3F2D8C96-A90A-4C67-899D-2A553B08A114@att.net> Message-ID: <1703716566.4060007.1645959068692@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Karen. I couldn't see the video in the UK. For those in the same boat, here's a static version in words and pictures: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://gestta.co.uk/how-a-book-is-made/__;!!KGKeukY!lLQ8IcOKictbsWV51PIZrRlg5I9NubCldmo-FMRn8kUv2IQHOCkRdUuA7KFWFzrCbJA$ Made me feel almost nostalgic for my publishing days, and a trip to TJ Books in Padstow, Cornwall in 1999 with two Routledge colleagues. Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Sunday, 27 February 2022, 10:11:19 GMT, Kllevenback via Vwoolf wrote: Hoping this video is accessible to everyone?.Karen Levenback? Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Kllevenback Date: February 27, 2022 at 5:05:33 AM EST To: karen levenback Subject: NYTimes: How a Book Is Made ?How a Book Is Made https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/02/19/books/how-a-book-is-made.html?referringSource=articleShare__;!!KGKeukY!lLQ8IcOKictbsWV51PIZrRlg5I9NubCldmo-FMRn8kUv2IQHOCkRdUuA7KFW-mb9A88$ Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lhankins at cornellcollege.edu Sun Feb 27 08:50:54 2022 From: lhankins at cornellcollege.edu (Leslie Hankins) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 07:50:54 -0600 Subject: [Vwoolf] 2023 VW conference news??? Message-ID: Hi all, does anyone know when/where the 2023 Conference will be? Leslie -- Leslie Kathleen Hankins Professor, Chair Department of English & Creative Writing *"No doubt we should be, on the whole, much worse off than we are without our astonishing gift for illusion."* Virginia Woolf,* Jacob's Room* Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast, a leader in email security and cyber resilience. Mimecast integrates email defenses with brand protection, security awareness training, web security, compliance and other essential capabilities. 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Hall Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:12 PM To: 'Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; mhussey at verizon.net Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] We should be afraid of Virginia Woolf - The Critic Owned by Locomotive 6960 Ltd, whose director is this personage: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Hosking__;!!KGKeukY!h3B6B17h3dULeDoQ_2WLoxmv_J8oKc5qA4ZFS419fMg8HIG8IYDPjVZbo-GBrLrG8jU$ 'Political activity' is an interesting section. On Thursday, 24 February 2022, 17:45:28 GMT, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: Thanks for posting this poorly-informed diatribe, Marielle. Is ?The Critic? one of Rupert Murdoch?s publications? From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 11:12 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] We should be afraid of Virginia Woolf - The Critic Dear Woolfians, Another article re. the bust of VW: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://thecritic.co.uk/we-should-be-afraid-of-virginia-woolf/__;!!KGKeukY!h3B6B17h3dULeDoQ_2WLoxmv_J8oKc5qA4ZFS419fMg8HIG8IYDPjVZbo-GBT_DefLY$ Warm wishes, Marielle Ms Marielle O?Neill Postgraduate Researcher, Leeds Trinity University Executive Council Member, Virginia Woolf Society of Great Britain M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/events/__;!!KGKeukY!h3B6B17h3dULeDoQ_2WLoxmv_J8oKc5qA4ZFS419fMg8HIG8IYDPjVZbo-GBUhomreE$ She/Her _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hall Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:12 PM To: 'Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; mhussey at verizon.net Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] We should be afraid of Virginia Woolf - The Critic Owned by Locomotive 6960 Ltd, whose director is this personage: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Hosking__;!!KGKeukY!htHqIEr82A0vXnsZbBwCRVdtf_zpdxcG0drK5xLLrMqalA2x-1UsvTydnvExYelQENw$ 'Political activity' is an interesting section. On Thursday, 24 February 2022, 17:45:28 GMT, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: Thanks for posting this poorly-informed diatribe, Marielle. Is ?The Critic? one of Rupert Murdoch?s publications? From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 11:12 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] We should be afraid of Virginia Woolf - The Critic Dear Woolfians, Another article re. the bust of VW: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://thecritic.co.uk/we-should-be-afraid-of-virginia-woolf/__;!!KGKeukY!htHqIEr82A0vXnsZbBwCRVdtf_zpdxcG0drK5xLLrMqalA2x-1UsvTydnvExPiO0-Nk$ Warm wishes, Marielle Ms Marielle O?Neill Postgraduate Researcher, Leeds Trinity University Executive Council Member, Virginia Woolf Society of Great Britain M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/events/__;!!KGKeukY!htHqIEr82A0vXnsZbBwCRVdtf_zpdxcG0drK5xLLrMqalA2x-1UsvTydnvExO_t4wyA$ She/Her _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com Sun Feb 27 11:22:00 2022 From: stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com (Stuart N. Clarke) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 16:22:00 -0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_NYTimes=3A_How_a_Book_Is_Made=E2=80=94n?= =?utf-8?q?ot_Virginia_Woolf_or_Cecil_Woolf_=28alas!=29_but_interes?= =?utf-8?q?ting?= In-Reply-To: <1703716566.4060007.1645959068692@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3F2D8C96-A90A-4C67-899D-2A553B08A114@att.net> <1703716566.4060007.1645959068692@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ?The binding process uses a tremendous amount of glue? ? but not enough, darling. Don?t talk to me about soi-disant ?Perfect Binding?. Stuart From: Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 10:51 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Kllevenback Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fwd: NYTimes: How a Book Is Made?not Virginia Woolf or Cecil Woolf (alas!) but interesting Thanks, Karen. I couldn't see the video in the UK. For those in the same boat, here's a static version in words and pictures: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://gestta.co.uk/how-a-book-is-made/__;!!KGKeukY!gliM0YPOI-dQwqBd1rgTVahGhuIjhS3M7-k4Wrs227OVkMx4hNh7qu_VjSn-dPBhNP4$ Made me feel almost nostalgic for my publishing days, and a trip to TJ Books in Padstow, Cornwall in 1999 with two Routledge colleagues. Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Sunday, 27 February 2022, 10:11:19 GMT, Kllevenback via Vwoolf wrote: Hoping this video is accessible to everyone?. 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Stuart From: Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 10:51 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Kllevenback Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fwd: NYTimes: How a Book Is Made?not Virginia Woolf or Cecil Woolf (alas!) but interesting Thanks, Karen. I couldn't see the video in the UK. For those in the same boat, here's a static version in words and pictures: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://gestta.co.uk/how-a-book-is-made/__;!!KGKeukY!h5KhP_YSMYsaKORa6lXej2DlZ2BZjHAWvky-M382ALi2lS1X89hbte0l_wTKVPK4kHA$ Made me feel almost nostalgic for my publishing days, and a trip to TJ Books in Padstow, Cornwall in 1999 with two Routledge colleagues. Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Sunday, 27 February 2022, 10:11:19 GMT, Kllevenback via Vwoolf wrote: Hoping this video is accessible to everyone?. 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URL: From Benjamin.Hagen at usd.edu Mon Feb 28 08:12:25 2022 From: Benjamin.Hagen at usd.edu (Hagen, Benjamin D) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 13:12:25 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Phyllis Rose on New "Edition" of VW/VSW Letters Message-ID: Dear Woolfians, (Apologies if this already came through the listserv.) Though the full review is behind a paywall, Phyllis Rose has reviewed Love Letters: Virginia Woolf and Vita Sackville-West (intro by Alison Bechdel) for the The New York Review of Books (appears in the 10 March 2022 issue). Here is the link, should you have a subscription (or a way to access someone else?s): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2022/03/10/i-have-quite-lost-my-heart-virginia-woolf-vita-sackville-west/__;!!KGKeukY!iuW8kqziFMWOEE94ShaVfM1_MbMuy58HXbxrxecZerCswiVq0LrSVmLZ0dtk4Dt6ETE$ . If you subscribe to print issues, you probably already received your copy. (A colleague of mine here in South Dakota told me about the piece after receiving his newest issue.) Relevant, perhaps, to discourse on the Woolf List about recent ?editions? of Woolf?s work, the available snippet of Rose?s review ends: And who exactly is telling the story? We do not know, as no editor is cited on the title page. Buried on the copyright page we find ?selection by Lily Lindon,? but Alison Bechdel?s introduction sheds no light on how this selection was made or what it offers that cannot be found in the letters as masterfully edited in 1985 by Louise DeSalvo and Mitchell Leaska. Best, Ben ? Benjamin D. Hagen, Ph.D. (he/him/his) Associate Professor | Dept of English | University of South Dakota Author | The Sensuous Pedagogies of Virginia Woolf and D.H. Lawrence Editor | Woolf Studies Annual President | International Virginia Woolf Society ? I acknowledge that the University of South Dakota is on indigenous territory. 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E.g. see https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://beyondabookshelf.co.uk/2021/lily-lindon-vita-and-virginia/__;!!KGKeukY!j-JwG-_orUSnXkTgIF8OQznUtoIL635UU9qp-hWf03phsOGmhERmj8uyb5946LIb5ko$ Also: "main texts ended up being: the Virago [US] 1992 letters from Vita to Virginia; the Vintage Classics Virginia Woolf Selected Diaries and Selected Letters, and the letters of Vita to her husband Harold, edited by their son Nigel Nicolson." Stuart From: Hagen, Benjamin D via Vwoolf Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 1:12 PM To: Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Phyllis Rose on New "Edition" of VW/VSW Letters Dear Woolfians, (Apologies if this already came through the listserv.) Though the full review is behind a paywall, Phyllis Rose has reviewed Love Letters: Virginia Woolf and Vita Sackville-West (intro by Alison Bechdel) for the The New York Review of Books (appears in the 10 March 2022 issue). Here is the link, should you have a subscription (or a way to access someone else?s): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2022/03/10/i-have-quite-lost-my-heart-virginia-woolf-vita-sackville-west/__;!!KGKeukY!j-JwG-_orUSnXkTgIF8OQznUtoIL635UU9qp-hWf03phsOGmhERmj8uyb594wDrU64Y$ . If you subscribe to print issues, you probably already received your copy. (A colleague of mine here in South Dakota told me about the piece after receiving his newest issue.) Relevant, perhaps, to discourse on the Woolf List about recent ?editions? of Woolf?s work, the available snippet of Rose?s review ends: And who exactly is telling the story? We do not know, as no editor is cited on the title page. Buried on the copyright page we find ?selection by Lily Lindon,? but Alison Bechdel?s introduction sheds no light on how this selection was made or what it offers that cannot be found in the letters as masterfully edited in 1985 by Louise DeSalvo and Mitchell Leaska. Best, Ben ? Benjamin D. Hagen, Ph.D. (he/him/his) Associate Professor | Dept of English | University of South Dakota Author | The Sensuous Pedagogies of Virginia Woolf and D.H. Lawrence Editor | Woolf Studies Annual President | International Virginia Woolf Society ? I acknowledge that the University of South Dakota is on indigenous territory. This land is the traditional territory of Dakota, Lakota, Umonhon, Ponca, Otoe, and Ioway nations. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emily.kopley at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 10:49:27 2022 From: emily.kopley at gmail.com (Emily Kopley) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 10:49:27 -0500 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Phyllis Rose on New "Edition" of VW/VSW Letters In-Reply-To: References: <9AA5DC76EFC447349C43DE705C42807C@StuartHP> Message-ID: Hi All, Here's the text of Phyllis Rose's review, below my name. Best, Emily When Virginia Woolf met Vita Sackville-West in December 1922, she had just published, at the age of forty, the first of her distinctive novels, *Jacob?s Room*, which followed the more traditional *The Voyage Out* (1915) and *Night and Day* (1919). Most of her published writing consisted of unsigned book reviews, so she was known to very few people. Virginia belonged by descent and marriage to Britain?s elite of arts and letters: her father, Leslie Stephen, had been a distinguished intellectual whose first wife was Thackeray?s daughter. Julia Margaret Cameron, the great Victorian photographer, was her aunt. Her sister, the painter Vanessa Bell, was married to a prominent art critic, Clive Bell, though she lived with another painter, Duncan Grant. Their intimate circle included Lytton Strachey, E.M. Forster, John Maynard Keynes, and Roger Fry. Virginia?s husband, Leonard, was a political journalist and editor. This was the Bloomsbury group, named after the unpretentious area of London where many of them lived; it was a world of plain living and high thinking??Gloomsbury,? the high-living, plain-thinking Vita would call it. Treasured by her family and friends as a brilliant, witty, and original presence, Virginia also had enormous mood swings and terrible headaches, was sociable until she collapsed, was depressed until she was writing, then depressed again as a book was finished and publication loomed. The doctors in charge of her treatment had nothing to recommend but bed rest and cessation of mental activity. Her husband had become a dedicated caregiver, and, partly as occupational therapy for Virginia, they ran a publishing house, the Hogarth Press, with the printing press in their basement. That, along with her reviewing, kept her in touch with the leading writers and critics of the day. Their life was austere but full, their house in London always lively, and for rest they had a cottage in the country. In 1922 Virginia was at the beginning of the most fruitful part of her career, although she felt herself to be behind where she should be: she ought to be considered, she said, thirty-five, not forty, at least five years having been wasted in bed. Most of the year preceding her meeting Vita was lost to repeated bouts of flu, which left her heart so weakened that doctors warned Leonard she might not live much longer. A sickroom-bound invalid in 1922 could not pick up the phone and chat with friends. Letters provided the only relief from isolation, and even that writing drained Virginia?s energy. Still, she loved hearing from friends and, when she could manage it, answering. Her letters, along with her diary, offer unusual access to the private life of a great writer. So what was it like when she finally fell in love with Vita, after living in a stable but sexless marriage with Leonard for so many years, when her imagination was more aroused by women? To find out, we turn eagerly to *Love Letters: Virginia Woolf and Vita Sackville-West*, which tells the story through their letters to each other, supplemented by extracts from both women?s diaries and Vita?s letters to her husband. And who exactly is telling the story? We do not know, as no editor is cited on the title page. Buried on the copyright page we find ?selection by Lily Lindon,? but Alison Bechdel?s introduction sheds no light on how this selection was made or what it offers that cannot be found in the letters as masterfully edited in 1985 by Louise DeSalvo and Mitchell A. Leaska. Vita, now the less celebrated of the couple and known primarily as the cocreator of the magnificent gardens at Sissinghurst, was in the early 1920s by far the more famous writer. Although ten years younger than Woolf, she was an established literary figure in London. Rich, aristocratic, sensual, free-living, polyamorous, commanding, self-confident, boisterously healthy, she was Woolf?s opposite in many ways, and not the least of her appeal lay in her family history. Her father, the 3rd Baron Sackville of Knole, belonged to the de la Warr family (as in Delaware), whose titles dated back to the fourteenth century. Knole, the family seat in Kent, a manor house as large as an entire village, had been gifted to Thomas Sackville, the 1st Earl of Dorset, by Queen Elizabeth I. Vita grew up at Knole without siblings, with a beautiful, eccentric mother, who had been born illegitimate but nonetheless a Sackville. Since Vita?s grandfather had no legitimate offspring, the house and title passed to Vita?s father. Had Vita been born male, she would have inherited Knole, with its four hundred rooms. As it was, on her father?s death, it passed to his brother. When she chose to marry Harold Nicolson, a diplomat from a family of diplomats, Vita?s family was not pleased. They considered him a disreputable intellectual, not at all a good match, without even the saving grace of money. But compared to most men Vita had met, Harold had a lively mind and tremendous vitality. It was a love match. Neither of them seemed to realize at the time of their marriage how deeply they were attracted to people of their own sex. After producing two sons, they constructed what in later days would be called an open marriage. Unshakably committed to each other, they were free to have other sexual partners. They wrote to each other every day they were apart, sharing everything, even accounts of their love affairs. In general, Vita proved to be good at keeping her affairs relatively short and unthreatening to Harold. But at about the time he was in Paris working on the Treaty of Versailles, she got caught up in the most passionate affair of her life, with Violet Keppel (later Trefusis), whose allure and lack of discipline threatened the Nicolsons? alliance. The details are to be found in their son Nigel Nicolson?s enthralling book *Portrait of a Marriage* (1973), an elegant melding of autobiographical writing by Vita and parental biography by her son, which should be required reading for anyone who thinks that marriage of any kind is effortless. Both in London and in Paris, Vita and Violet went out together in public with Vita cross-dressed as a recently repatriated soldier with a head wound requiring a bandage. She had never known such freedom. But eventually Violet?s fianc? and Vita?s husband retrieved the two runaways from France, and Vita?s passions were subsumed into the pleasant regularities of country life. Fundamentally upbeat, she got enormous pleasure from her house, household, garden, and dogs. And she wrote constantly. By the time she met Virginia, Vita had published five volumes of poetry and two novels, one of which, *The Dragon in Shallow Waters*, was a best seller. She had written an account of her family and its estate, *Knole and the Sackvilles*, and had found her great theme in the connection between real estate and a person?s sense of identity, explored first in a novella, *The Heir*. She had also written a fictionalized account of her affair with Violet, *Challenge*, which her mother convinced her was too scandalous to publish in the UK. She was still only thirty. Virginia?s first impulse on meeting Vita at a dinner party at Clive Bell?s was to look down on her as a facile writer: ?She writes fifteen pages a day?has finished another book?publishes with Heinemanns.? What attracted her was above all Vita the aristocrat. ?The aristocratic manner is something like an actress?s?no false shyness or modesty?makes me feel virgin, shy, and schoolgirlish,? she wrote. Vita?s long, languid face, which Virginia later found so beautiful, did not at first appeal to her, but ?all these ancestors and centuries, silver and gold, have bred a perfect body.? In Virginia?s imagination, Vita was often striding?through fields, across plains, in Turkish pants, in emeralds?the supremely competent and self-assured woman, managing children, nannies, gardeners, butchers, dukes, duchesses, and motorcars with equal ease. Vita?s feelings about Virginia were clear from the start and not quite so fanciful. ?I simply adore Virginia Woolf, and so would you,? she wrote to her husband after their first meeting. You would fall quite flat before her charm and personality?. She is utterly unaffected: there is no outward adornments?she dresses quite atrociously. At first you think she is plain; then a sort of spiritual beauty imposes itself on you?. She is both detached and human, silent till she wants to say something, and then says it supremely well?. Darling, I have quite lost my heart. Not many pages of *Love Letters *go by between their meeting in 1922 and their becoming lovers in late 1925. But, of course, that is three years?three years in which they were hardly focused on each other. Three years in which Vita had a love affair with a man, Geoffrey Scott, author of *The Architecture of Humanism *(1914), which resulted in the breakup of his marriage. Three years in which Virginia published both a fiction masterpiece, *Mrs. Dalloway*, and a nonfiction masterpiece, *The Common Reader*, began to make some money from her work, and became famous. They became friends before they were lovers. Vita took Virginia to lunch with her father, Lord Sackville, in the family home: ?His Lordship lives in the kernel of a vast nut. You perambulate miles of galleries; skip endless treasures?chairs that Shakespeare might have sat on?. Then there is Mary Stuart?s altar, where she prayed before execution.? Virginia asked Vita to write something for Hogarth, and Vita tossed off the novella *Seducers in Ecuador* while on a walking trip in Italy with her husband. Who was doing whom a favor in this case is unclear. Vita had a good commercial publisher, Heinemann, but being published by the Hogarth Press represented a different kind of prestige, and in return she brought with her a large fan base. *Seducers in Ecuador* sold well, and the two women, now with an editorial relationship, became closer. Vita was a guest at Monk?s House, the Woolfs? place in Sussex; Virginia was a guest at Long Barn, the Nicolsons? country house in Kent. In December 1925 Vita and Virginia spent three days together at Long Barn. Harold had been posted to the British Legation in Tehran, where Vita was to join him later that winter. It was the first time they had been alone overnight, and something happened that marked a turning point. Vita?s references to this night suggest that Virginia declared herself or threw herself at Vita, but Virginia did not see it that way. ?These Sapphists *love* women,? she wrote in her diary upon returning home. Friendship is never untinged with amorosity. I like her and being with her, and the splendour?she shines in the grocer?s shop in Sevenoaks with a candle-lit radiance, stalking on legs like beech trees, pink glowing, grape clustered, pearl hung?. In brain and insight she is not as highly organised as I am. But then she is aware of this, and so lavishes on me the maternal protection which, for some reason, is what I have always most wished from everyone. Whatever happened changed their relationship forever, deepening it, allowing Virginia to think of Vita as her lover and to be jealous of all the other women with whom she continued, over the years, to have affairs, while Vita had to reassure an increasingly nervous and jealous Harold that she would not be swept away by Virginia as she had been by Violet Trefusis. Their feelings for each other became even more intense when Vita left to join Harold in Persia and they were in merely epistolary contact. I say ?merely,? but there is nothing negligible about the arousal capacity of letters from distant friends, the traveler treasuring the connection to home with the desperation of a drowning swimmer, and the stay-at-home living on the traveler?s passion. On the long voyage through the Mediterranean and Red Seas and across the Indian Ocean to Bombay, Vita had time to contemplate, with characteristic generosity, her beloved?s talents and difficulties, telling her, ?I don?t know whether to be dejected or encouraged when I read the works of Virginia Woolf. Dejected because I shall never be able to write like that, or encouraged because somebody else can?? Three days later she wrote: You are the only person I have ever known properly who was aloof from the more vulgarly jolly sides of life. And I wonder whether you lose or gain? I fancy that you gain,?you, Virginia,?because you are so constituted and have a sufficient fund of excitement within yourself, though I don?t fancy it would be to the advantage of anybody else. Once arrived in Tehran, after the overland journey from Baghdad, Vita wrote letters that later helped Virginia create the fabulous shape-shifting adventurer Orlando: I have been stuck in a river, crawled between ramparts of snow, been attacked by a bandit, been baked and frozen alternatively, travelled alone with ten men (all strangers), slept in odd places, eaten wayside meals, crossed high passes, seen Kurds and Medes and caravans, and running streams, and black lambs skipping under blossom, seen hills of porphyry stained with copper sulfate, snow-mountains in a great circle, endless plains, with flocks on the slopes. Dead camels pecked by vultures, a dying donkey, a dying man. Came to mud towns at nightfall, stayed with odd gruff Scotchmen, drunk Persian wine. Worn a silk dress one day, and a sheepskin and fur cap the next. The grueling journey and the austere, otherworldly beauty of Persia produced Vita?s wonderful *Passenger to Teheran* and vivid letters to Virginia. Virginia responded with childlike devotion. Vita?s departure seems to have set off a kind of panic in her, and she clung to the letters for reassurance. Their reunion, after months apart, was awkward. Expected physical passion did not immediately materialize. Still, the period of their greatest intimacy followed. Vita had to reassure Harold again that she was not having a love affair with Virginia, and this time she was more explicit. Yes, they had been to bed together twice, but Vita did not consider their relationship sexual. To have sex with Virginia, she said, would be playing with fire. She was ?scared to death of arousing physical feelings in her, because of the madness.? In any case, Virginia was not the kind of woman she was sexually attracted to. There was something ?incongruous and almost indecent in the idea.? Vita had every reason to pull her punches with Harold, downplaying her passion for and with Virginia. Still, there was a difference between her protective love for Virginia and her phosphorescent love for Violet Trefusis. She adored Virginia for her brilliance, beyond any she had ever known, and for the touching contrast between her intellectual power and her physical fragility, but that cerebral appeal did not provoke the same kind of passion as Violet?s wildness and flamboyance. Vita and Virginia loved each other?s company. They looked forward to the precious times they had alone, which certainly included physical intimacy. They sympathized with each other?s problems, encouraged each other?s work. Reading the proofs of *Passenger to Teheran*, Virginia reports to Vita, ?I kept saying ?How I should like to know this woman? and then thinking ?But I do,? and then ?No, I don?t?not altogether the woman who writes this.? I don?t know the extent of your subtleties.? Fittingly, their relationship was consummated in a work of the imagination? *Orlando*, a wholly original account of Vita?s lineage embodied in the title character, who begins as a male aristocrat, in the Renaissance, lives through centuries, and becomes at some point a female aristocrat?to no one?s surprise, least of all her own. When the idea for the book came to Virginia, she immediately wrote to Vita to ask if she minded. Vita was thrilled. She sat for photographs of Orlando in modern times, which were included in the design of the first edition. Dedicated to Vita, in every sense, *Orlando* was a monument to their relationship, almost a brag, claiming Vita for Virginia while Vita fell repeatedly for other women and Virginia experienced jealousy, the most easily recognized form of love. Nigel Nicolson described *Orlando* as a charming love letter to his mother, but it can be seen more precisely as a love letter to Vita?s inherited certainty about who she was, a dazzlingly imaginative and enjoyable transformation of Vita?s dutiful book on the same subject, *Knole and the Sackvilles*. The change of gender is one among many magic tricks the novel performs, the greatest of which is the protagonist?s endurance in time. Tilda Swinton?s performance as Orlando in the 1992 film directed by Sally Potter captures this perfectly: nothing surprises her. She is the same person no matter what. That certainty about continuity of self is what Vita had that Virginia most wanted, and in writing *Orlando* she momentarily, imaginatively acquired it. By 1934, the friendship was tapering off. Virginia?s closest friend became Ethel Smyth, and Vita?s her sister-in-law Gwen St. Aubyn. Besides, Vita, upon Harold?s retirement from the Foreign Office and commencing work as a journalist, had bought the property at Sissinghurst, and the couple embarked on their joint project of turning it into one of England?s most beloved locales, famous the world over for its gardens. Vita, now less interested in social life than Virginia was, spent most of her time in the country, and Virginia found her less exciting. ?My friendship with Vita is over,? Virginia wrote in her diary in 1935. ?Not with a quarrel, not with a bang, but as ripe fruit falls.? Like any selection, this volume is partial, and different readers, from the same mass of correspondence and diary entries, would construct a different story. I did not find the title *Love Letters *justified. The volume might better have been called *Portrait of a Friendship*, showing how many different forms intimacy might take, how it can change with time and circumstance, how even the most intense and satisfying friendships may end. The emphasis on a love story seems forced, and somehow prurient. Woolf is one of the great letter writers of all time, full of wit and kindness, crafting her letters as personal responses to each friend and never sending out blanket recaps of events in her life. Teasing, flirtatious, charming, sophisticated, fun to spend time with even if you don?t know half the people she talks about or refers to, for sheer liveliness and joie de vivre, she can be compared as a letter writer in English only to Byron and Keats. Her descriptions of the people she sees in the course of her day are offhandedly novelistic, and her constant socializing gave her lots of material: ?She [her cousin, Dorothea Stephen] said how d?y do in her condescending way, and began to eat like a poor woman at a charity tea, fast, stealthily, every crumb, thanking me with insincere sweetness.? And all of a sudden you hear her speaking voice: ?What a bore it must be to be a painter, and need light and landscape, instead of a fire and a book!? Her best, fullest letters, the most like conversation polished by a master stylist, were written to her sister throughout her life and to Vita in the time of their great intimacy. The letters twist and turn, from lively reports of Virginia?s own doings to vivid imaginings of Vita?s, wherever she happens to be, surrounded by animals and flowers at her country home or traveling in Persia. They throw off sparks of observations about life and art: I had wanted to go into the matter of profound natural happiness; as revealed to me yesterday at a family party of an English Banker; where the passion and joys of sons and daughters in their own society struck me almost to tears with self-pity and amazement. Nothing of that sort do we any of us know?profound emotions, which are yet natural and taken for granted, so that nothing inhibits or restrains?How deep these are, and unself conscious. There is a book called Father and Son, by [Edmund] Gosse, which says that all the coast of England was fringed with little sea anemones and lovely tassels of seaweed and sprays of emerald moss and so on, from the beginning of time till Jan 1858, when, for some reason, hordes of clergy and spinsters in mushroom hats and goggles began collecting, and so scraped and rifled the coast that this accumulation was destroyed forever?A parable this, of what we have done to the deposits of family happiness. The phrase ?family happiness? makes her think of *Anna Karenina*, so she pivots from the thought of how sophistication has destroyed simple emotion, embodied in the metaphor of the lost sea anemones of the English coast, as described by Gosse, to an observation about the Russian novel: Its growing unreality to us who have no real condemnation in our hearts any longer for adultery as such. But Tolstoy hoists all his book on that support. Take it away, say, no it doesn?t offend me that AK. should copulate with Vronsky, and what remains? The version I just quoted is from Woolf?s complete correspondence, and all that gets quoted in *Love Letters* from this delicious and revealing letter about bourgeois happiness and Virginia?s private moral code is this: How odd it is?the effect geography has on the mind! I write to you differently now you?re coming back. The pathos is melting. I felt it pathetic when you were going away; as if you were sinking below the verge. Now that you are rising, I?m jolly again. By focusing so relentlessly on their relationship, *Love Letters* narrows our sense of who Vita and Virginia are to each other, as though a person on a beautiful hike, instead of sending pictures of the landscape, merely sent a string of GPS coordinates. The helter-skelter of style, which is to say, their full selves, is edited out, and each letter tends to be used as a marker on the path of intimacy. ?The accent falls differently from of old; the moment of importance came not here but there,? Woolf wrote in her essay ?Modern Fiction.? What makes her original in both fiction and nonfiction is that the accent falls not here but there. *Love Letters* tries to make the accents fall squarely where we would expect them to be?two people meet, they fall in love, they become lovers?and sends one back to the original material to make up a love story of one?s own. On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:46 AM Emily Kopley wrote: > Hi All, > > Here's Phyllis Rose's review. > > Best, > Emily > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:21 AM Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > >> >> >> It?s really not worth the effort to take this new ?edition? textually >> seriously, but I did do a bit of work on it. E.g. see >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://beyondabookshelf.co.uk/2021/lily-lindon-vita-and-virginia/__;!!KGKeukY!jQPOF2PfeREGx7NfGjhEx79_bxS0EtDuzGPKDgK36JqxlNT4yWYlS9eqFGsbAjP_Iik$ >> >> >> Also: "main texts ended up being: the Virago [US] 1992 letters from Vita >> to Virginia; the Vintage Classics Virginia Woolf Selected Diaries and >> Selected Letters, and the letters of Vita to her husband Harold, edited by >> their son Nigel Nicolson." >> >> Stuart >> >> >> >> *From:* Hagen, Benjamin D via Vwoolf >> *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2022 1:12 PM >> *To:* Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Phyllis Rose on New "Edition" of VW/VSW Letters >> >> >> Dear Woolfians, >> >> >> >> (Apologies if this already came through the listserv.) Though the full >> review is behind a paywall, Phyllis Rose has reviewed *Love Letters: >> Virginia Woolf and Vita **Sackville-West* (intro by Alison Bechdel) for >> the *The New York Review of Books* (appears in the 10 March 2022 issue). >> Here is the link, should you have a subscription (or a way to access >> someone else?s): >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2022/03/10/i-have-quite-lost-my-heart-virginia-woolf-vita-sackville-west/__;!!KGKeukY!jQPOF2PfeREGx7NfGjhEx79_bxS0EtDuzGPKDgK36JqxlNT4yWYlS9eqFGsbIMlQeYY$ >> . >> If you subscribe to print issues, you probably already received your copy. >> (A colleague of mine here in South Dakota told me about the piece after >> receiving his newest issue.) >> >> >> >> Relevant, perhaps, to discourse on the Woolf List about recent ?editions? >> of Woolf?s work, the available snippet of Rose?s review ends: >> >> >> >> And who exactly is telling the story? We do not know, as no editor is >> cited on the title page. Buried on the copyright page we find ?selection by >> Lily Lindon,? but Alison Bechdel?s introduction sheds no light on how this >> selection was made or what it offers that cannot be found in the letters as >> masterfully edited in 1985 by Louise DeSalvo and Mitchell Leaska. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Ben >> >> ? >> >> Benjamin D. Hagen, Ph.D. (he/him/his) >> >> Associate Professor | Dept of English | University of South Dakota >> >> Author | The Sensuous Pedagogies of Virginia Woolf and D.H. Lawrence >> >> >> Editor | Woolf Studies Annual >> >> >> President | International Virginia Woolf Society >> >> >> ? >> >> *I acknowledge that the University of South Dakota is on indigenous >> territory. This land is the traditional territory of Dakota, Lakota, >> Umonhon, Ponca, Otoe, and Ioway nations.* >> >> ------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Vwoolf mailing list >> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Vwoolf mailing list >> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >> > > > -- > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://concordia.academia.edu/EmilyKopley__;!!KGKeukY!jQPOF2PfeREGx7NfGjhEx79_bxS0EtDuzGPKDgK36JqxlNT4yWYlS9eqFGsbkGR8UrA$ > -- https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://concordia.academia.edu/EmilyKopley__;!!KGKeukY!jQPOF2PfeREGx7NfGjhEx79_bxS0EtDuzGPKDgK36JqxlNT4yWYlS9eqFGsbkGR8UrA$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: