[Vwoolf] Vwoolf Digest, Vol 118, Issue 17
Marie Claire Boisset
mc at clarior.net
Wed Apr 6 18:18:34 EDT 2022
Sarah:
Thank you so much for getting back to me promptly the other day. Shame it
took me so long to reply (and the ball did not start rolling 😢).
How to answer your wonderful, striking quotations in 2 lines?
2) this factual (tbc?) note gave me a shock... hence a few days before the
following attempt at a proper answer:
Even taken with a pinch of salt, it seems stunning that "*Meanwhile
(her) teeth** (fell) out when (she) talked; when (she ate); when (she)
telephone(d)*"! ("Oh my!" - is the thought - or else: "wow", or: "Oh,
*Nooo*!").
Yet, she retained a reputation for beauty until much later, didn't she? But
1929 was certainly an early age for VW to lose all her teeth. And then one
wonders about the reasons for her depression (etc.).
For her dislike of sitting for photographs. For not smiling often enough.
A good lesson, and a role-model, I thought, for all the "middle-aged" women
who tend to feel sorry for themselves (as I tend to, sometimes!). Life in
Europe in 1929 was not half as easy (for practical, health things such as
dental care, for example!) as they would be now (even for far less
"privileged" people). So the little sentence that you sent reminded me the
following: when tempted to feel sorry for myself for small things - have a
thought of a woman's life (even the "daughter of a very educated man") in
1929 or 1922, 1917 or 1918... or 1940, etc. Now Ukraine (or Afghanistan),
April 2022.
Another reason, I thought, to try to see the glass half full... Let me grab
the rose-colored 👓 😊
3) Thank you again also Sarah, if I may, for sharing the quotation about
Dorothy Richardson. Very interesting and worth pondering more. I meant to
ask about "the *English sentence*" - about her "(*reinventing) the language*"
(was it?) - or "the sentence"? (Maybe in a letter from Lytton?).
Trying to make up my mind on what soft copy (Kindle or other) of the
"Complete VW" to allow for live term searches of this kind... Maybe the
answer will be found that way.
So as you can tell, your choice of 2 quotations was very powerful and so
apt that I felt the need to answer at length!
Thank you in advance for your time reading. Not to worry otherwise, of
course!
Hope you all have a good rest of the week.🌞
MC
Marie Claire Boisset Pestourie
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 1:32 PM Sarah M. Hall <smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Marie-Claire,
>
> It's likely that you'll receive numerous replies about this, making
> different points, but to start the ball rolling:
>
> 2) Woolf frequently complains about her teeth in her Diary and Letters,
> e.g. writing to Vanessa Bell, 18 May 1929: 'I've just had my last tooth
> out; and they've put in what they call a transformation - temporary of
> course - to last three months. Meanwhile my teeth fall out when I talk;
> when I eat; when I telephone.'
>
> 3) Woolf herself credited Dorothy Richardson with the 'psychological
> sentence of the feminine gender' (Romance of the Heart, Essays 3, p. 367).
>
> Sarah
>
>
> Sarah M. Hall
> Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB
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> On Thursday, 31 March 2022, 11:15:54 BST, Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf <
> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you all for sharing this! It is always nice to see VW remembered,
> not from a suicidal, death-spiral angle, but for the smiles & laughs too!
> Please might any one be able to answer the following questions for me, as I
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> Thank you all for sharing this! It is always nice to see VW remembered,
> not from a suicidal, death-spiral angle, but for the smiles & laughs too!
>
> Please might any one be able to answer the following questions for me, as
> I can't pinpoint these right now:
> 1) that she hated to pause for photographs ("torture?"), hence the paucity
> of samples;
> 2) that she had *bad teeth*, hence did not want to smile on photographs
> bec. she wanted to hide her teeth;
>
> 3) that she "*(re)invented the English language/(modern) sentence*" - or
> something else to that effect?
> (or is the latter only in my (wild) dreams/imagination)?
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> Thank you - may you all be safe & well. 🌞😊
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> Marie-Claire Boisset-Pestourie
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> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 2:23 AM Juliette Mai via Vwoolf <
> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:
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> Hello, this link!
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/20/arts/virginia-woolf-nypl.html__;!!KGKeukY!keqzrokawVi0DBAHT1HzAgqDnczsdiKK_jfG3s9L1Qg3f1ZGhPlskqP35LX3pxZ-_ZI$
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> Virginia and Clive Bell laughing at the beach. Best regards Giulietta Mai
> Il gio 31 mar 2022, 00:39 <vwoolf-request at lists.osu.edu
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> this link!
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> Virginia and Clive Bell laughing at the beach.
> Best regards
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> Giulietta Mai
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> 1. Re: seeking high dpi pix of laughing Virginia Stephen at
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 22:38:58 +0000
> From: "Marielle O'Neill (1806529) PHD" <M.ONeill at leedstrinity.ac.uk>
> To: Leslie Hankins <lhankins at cornellcollege.edu>, Virginia Woolf
> <Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] seeking high dpi pix of laughing Virginia
> Stephen at Cambridge
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> Hi,
>
> It?s from the NPG.
>
> See:
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> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait-list.php?search=sp&sText=Virginia*Woolf__;Kw!!KGKeukY!hOVY1eiRPg5oKR6BdqYs1e0U49C4LKfvsIA_n5VDpa7uLUr-7D-NDDR4eEE9jmx9g4I$
>
> Warm wishes,
> Marielle
>
> From: Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces+m.oneill=leedstrinity.ac.uk at lists.osu.edu>
> On Behalf Of Leslie Hankins via Vwoolf
> Sent: 30 March 2022 23:36
> To: Virginia Woolf <Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
> Subject: [Vwoolf] seeking high dpi pix of laughing Virginia Stephen at
> Cambridge
>
> Hi all, actually I am desperately seeking pictures of VW laughing, from
> anywhere!! I saw this one online, but it doesn't say where it is from.
> Does anyone have a clue? it would be perfect for my purposes if it were not
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> Hi all, actually I am desperately seeking pictures of VW laughing, from
> anywhere!!
>
> I saw this one online, but it doesn't say where it is from. Does anyone
> have a clue? it would be perfect for my purposes if it were not such a
> pixilated one.
>
> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D8448F.531A3C30]
>
> If you know of sources of any laughing Virginias, do share! best, Leslie
> --
> Leslie Kathleen Hankins
> Professor, Chair
> Department of English & Creative Writing
>
> "No doubt we should be, on the whole, much worse off than we are without
> our astonishing gift for illusion."
> Virginia Woolf, Jacob's Room
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