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<p class="MsoNormal">Following up to reiterate, the primary motivation for us adding “VDI” (a potential misnomer) is to provide support for the class of interactive apps that “require more resources than could be provided by login nodes, and should be launched
with very short delay”. The normal batch jobs used by interactive apps like Jupyter and RStudio have a non-deterministic start time with a queue time that may be in the order of minutes or longer. The purpose of the VDI apps is to provide access to light weight
interactive sessions with a queue time in the order of seconds.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric Franz, Senior Web & Interface App Engineer<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ohio Supercomputer Center<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">An Ohio Technology Consortium (OH-TECH) Member<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1224 Kinnear Road<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">email: efranz@osc.edu<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">OOD-users <ood-users-bounces+efranz=osc.edu@lists.osc.edu> on behalf of Jeremy Nicklas <jnicklas@osc.edu><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>User support mailing list for Open OnDemand <ood-users@lists.osc.edu><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, March 23, 2018 at 1:47 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>User support mailing list for Open OnDemand <ood-users@lists.osc.edu><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [OOD-users] VDI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Hi Susan,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">I'll take a stab at answering this. Anyone else is free to interject to add more or correct me if I am misspeak about
something.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">There are two "components" when it comes to our Virtual Desktop Interface (VDI) that we host here at OSC:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">1. The Desktop App, which is setup and accessed just like the Jupyter and RStudio apps you are familiar with except
that it launches an X11 Desktop Environment (Gnome 2, Mate, or Xfce) within the batch job and leverages a VNC server.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">2. A non-advertised specialized cluster or queue/partition with a small number of compute nodes that execute single
core jobs (which may be oversubscribed). This is used for Interactive Apps that do not always make full use of the processor. Some examples:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> - a desktop environment used for file editing and management<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> - visualization of results in Paraview or simple web server<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> - an application server that a user interacts with to setup simulations that are then submitted to the batch servers
for heavy computation<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">For each HPC cluster at OSC (Oakley, Ruby, and Owens) we provide Desktop apps described by #1 above. We also have a
non-advertised cluster called Quick that has a few Oakley, Ruby, and Owens nodes. This allows us to also provide a VDI Desktop app (described by #1 and #2 above) for each of our HPC clusters.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><img width="213" height="255" style="width:2.2187in;height:2.6562in" id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image001.png@01D3C2B1.BE921140" alt="cid:36f833e1-817b-4363-9b12-ffe00fa2556c"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Under the covers, the only real difference between a "Desktop" and "VDI" app shown above is that the "VDI" jobs are
submitted to the Quick cluster and request a single core, whereas the "Desktop" jobs are submitted to the respective cluster and request a full node.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">I'd recommend getting a Bridges Desktop app installed and running first. I'd also recommend using the Xfce desktop
as I have been slowly porting our X11 GUI apps to use the tools packaged with Xfce, so you'd be able to take advantage of my work.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">> Is this released yet?<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Yes, the documentation to install a Desktop app is given at:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">https://osc.github.io/ood-documentation/master/install-desktops.html
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">> How much effort to get it installed locally?<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">There is the initial requirements of installing TurboVNC and websockify on the compute clusters you want to run Desktops
on. You also need to configure the cluster configs on your OnDemand node to point to these installation paths for the corresponding cluster. This can be a little difficult, but the good news is you only need to set this up once and it is reusable for all X11
applications you want to support in the future, e.g., MATLAB.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Then there is the Desktop App configuration, similar to the configuration you needed to do for Jupyter and RStudio
with the </span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">*.yml</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">
files. Although, the Desktop app comes with the base install of OnDemand so there is less you need to configure.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Note: Because the Desktop app comes with the OnDemand installation it is
<b>highly </b>recommended you don't modify any of the files under the installation, as they will be overwritten with future upgrades. Instead you will need to put files that override configuration under a "</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">bc_desktop/local/</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">"
directory and keep backups of this.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Note 2: We will be releasing OnDemand 1.3 very soon and it will come with an RPM installer. The beta testers have been
happy with the RPM installation so far. What does this mean for you? It means <b>
all</b> configuration for OnDemand installed apps will be under "</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">/etc/ood/config/apps</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">".
So remember when I told you to keep backups of "</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">bc_desktop/local</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">",
you will now put those under "</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">/etc/ood/config/apps/bc_desktop</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">"
when you upgrade to OnDemand 1.3. You do not need to do this now, but do keep it in the back of your head.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Also, feel free to respond with any questions you have. A variety of HPC centers currently have Desktops installed
at their sites, so I am sure they will be more than happy to also help you.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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OOD-users [ood-users-bounces@lists.osc.edu] on behalf of Susan Litzinger [susan@psc.edu]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 22, 2018 3:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> User support maiing list for Open OnDemand<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OOD-users] VDI</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">One of our staff noticed that you have Virtual Desktop Interface available through Open OnDemand. Is this released
yet? How much effort to get it installed locally? <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Thanks -- <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Susan Litzinger<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">PSC <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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