[OOD-users] OOD IDE Integration

Shawn Doughty shawn.doughty at tufts.edu
Mon Feb 26 21:17:31 EST 2018


Eric,

Most people so far are happy with the built in editor for general code
development, scripting as well as OnDemand apps (the later being mostly
myself and one other person). Of course over time those users will start to
have greater expectations for tools they might be using in class and expect
features such as versioning (git, etc). Orion or Cloud 9 seem like a good
fit.

Mostly I'm preparing for the day the 1% ask for a more sophisticated
environment such as Eclipse. Something that integrates with the scheduler,
can submit MPI jobs, has debugging... when that day comes I'll have to
decide if it is better to select/integrate Eclipse or the more web enabled
version "Che"

In a sense it was a comment on integrating apps such as matlab, rstudio
which have a  "legacy" GUI that require a window manager, VNC, etc.
---vs--- apps which have a web interface. The later seems like they easier
to integrate and so for cases like rstudio -vs- rserver I'm inclined to
select rstudio.  Maybe it is the same for Eclipse... and the better choice
is Che...  What have other people decided when choosing between the two
alternatives?





On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 7:29 PM, Franz, Eric <efranz at osc.edu> wrote:

> Shawn,
>
>
>
> We have definitely had discussions about the need for IDE support in
> OnDemand.
>
>
>
> Two use cases that come to mind:
>
>
>
>    1. Edit, build and run parallel C++ MPI code while having access to
>    multiple nodes. To support this, we might launch an IDE such as Eclipse on
>    a compute node in the context of a batch job.
>    2. Develop OnDemand apps. To support this, we might support a cloud
>    editor like https://orionhub.org or the editor used in Cloud9.
>
>
>
> What use cases are you envisioning? What would your advanced users be
> using an IDE such as Eclipse for?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> *From: *OOD-users <ood-users-bounces at lists.osc.edu> on behalf of Shawn
> Doughty <shawn.doughty at tufts.edu>
> *Reply-To: *User support mailing list for Open OnDemand <
> ood-users at lists.osc.edu>
> *Date: *Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 10:27 AM
> *To: *User support mailing list for Open OnDemand <ood-users at lists.osc.edu
> >
> *Subject: *[OOD-users] OOD IDE Integration
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Are there any plans to integrate full scale IDE such as
> https://www.eclipse.org/che/ into the OOD framework?  My users are very
> happy with what is already there via built-in text/code editing but of
> course there are more advanced users however who  like things such as
> Eclipse.
>
> Even with good performance using vnc, fastx, nx, etc. over time I am
> really starting to lean towards solutions with a native interface over
> x11... so rstudio server rather than x11 rstudio, etc.
>
> This would also be a good discussion on the campus champions list...
>
>
>
> --
>
> Shawn G. Doughty
> Senior Research Technology Specialist, Research Technology
> Tufts Technology Services (TTS)
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Shawn G. Doughty
Senior Research Technology Specialist, Research Technology
Tufts Technology Services (TTS)
16 Dearborn Road
Somerville, MA 02144
617-627-5462
http://it.tufts.edu/
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