<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><font size="4"><br></font><div><font size="4">….And don’t forget that for every GIFTED athlete, there are many who</font></div><div><font size="4">are <b>NOT</b> GIFTED athletes….Step with care around every distinction</font></div><div><font size="4">that could ever be considered!…right? I was not a gifted athlete, and I have</font></div><div><font size="4">felt badly about it ever since…..Let’s pretend that differences of any</font></div><div><font size="4">kind among human beings simply do not exist….</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">Will Fitzhugh</font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>================</div><div><br></div><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';">Gifted and Talented in Ohio Discussion List <<a href="mailto:ohiogift@lists.osu.edu">ohiogift@lists.osu.edu</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';"><b>Re: [Ohiogift] Gifted children with high-functioning autism</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';">September 18, 2014 at 9:04:19 AM EDT<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';"><<a href="mailto:ohiogift@lists.osu.edu">ohiogift@lists.osu.edu</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';"><a href="mailto:ohiogift@lists.osu.edu">ohiogift@lists.osu.edu</a><br></span></div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333339691162px"><< while it may not seem offensive to use the term "high functioning" it means we also refer to others as "low functioning." Are you prepared to look into the face of a child or the parent and tell them the child is "low functioning?" We cannot have one without its reverse.>></span><br></div><br>Yes I am.<br><br>The logic then follows... (in terms of cognitive abilities) "<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333339691162px"> while it may not seem offensive to use the term "GIFTED" it means we also refer to others as "NOT GIFTED." Are you prepared to look into the face of a child or the parent and tell them the child is "NOT GIFTED?" We cannot have one without its reverse.</span><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br>Again, Yes I am.... Otherwise we will have NO gifted. (and no I DON"T say that to children, I talk to them about what they ARE good or even gifted at[music, art , sports - just not academics ]; but we do say it to parents [politely] in testing results letters)<br><br>Remembering articles about pushing gifted students toward the mean.<br><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Mark</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Gifted and Talented in Ohio Discussion List <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ohiogift@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">ohiogift@lists.osu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Folks, I'm sorry to be persnickety but can we be more inclusive in our language? Children with Autism Spectrum Disorders are a varied group and while it may not seem offensive to use the term "high functioning" it means we also refer to others as "low functioning." Are you prepared to look into the face of a child or the parent and tell them the child is "low functioning?" We cannot have one without its reverse. It denotes a pecking order, with one somehow better than the other. I encourage everyone to be more sensitive and use the diagnosis category (Aspergers or PDD-NOS). After all, it should be obvious to us in gifted that a student with ASD who is twice exceptional meets the criteria for gifted. Why demean the child with a qualification like "high functioning?" </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for listening.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Sep 17, 2014, at 11:27 PM, Gifted and Talented in Ohio Discussion List <<a href="mailto:ohiogift@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">ohiogift@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div><span>Hi Art,</span></div><div style="font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I can offer some ideas to the family, based on a little more information. Please invite the parents to contact me at this email address.</span></div><div style="font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Thanks,</span></div><div style="font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Anne</span></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px"> <div style="font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif;font-size:14pt"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Gifted and Talented in Ohio Discussion List <<a href="mailto:ohiogift@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">ohiogift@lists.osu.edu</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:Ohiogift@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">Ohiogift@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:40 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Ohiogift] Gifted children with high-functioning autism<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div>
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A parent moving to southwest Ohio asked me about various local districts' (mandated) services, IEPs and so forth for a <b>gifted child with high-functioning autism</b>. The child is in elementary school. The family also has other children in gifted programs in the family's current state, California, so service to those children also plays into the decision as to where to move and what to expect (or not) with whatever offerings might be available locally in Ohio.<br>
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If you have had any experience with any school system's handling of <b>gifted children with high-functioning autism</b>, or if you have any <b>comments</b>, <b>observations </b>or <b>recommendations </b>for the family, please post your message here on Ohiogift. Thanks.<br>
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Best wishes,<br>
Art Snyder<br>
<a href="mailto:artsnyder44@cs.com" target="_blank">artsnyder44@cs.com</a><br>
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