<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><base href="x-msg://96/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I am not sure. However, I would advise you to get rid of both of those fact sheets and rely on the current ones. (Although, I will tell you know that CogAT 7's cut score will be different for the lowest grade band on the one yet to come out because the SEM was different from Form 6 to Form 7. One of them had a different cut score for K-2 as compared to 3-12 due to SEM, and the other has a different score for K-1 as compared to 2-12 due to SEM. That grade band issue was not caught when Form 7 was added. Then again, that is why ODE has the caveat that you should always rely on the technical manuals to confirm the cut scores.) Not only are the cut scores current on the most recent sheet, but it also limits the list to the current approved instruments. Form 6 can no longer be used for gifted identification, as it came off last June, I believe, because it is outdated. ODE typically releases current approved test lists and fact sheets in December or January (new ones for this year are forthcoming - they got a little behind with staff changes in the department), so always replace your existing lists with the new ones. <div><br></div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On Feb 7, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Edward A. Hawks III <<a href="mailto:eah3rd@windstream.net">eah3rd@windstream.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Hi, all:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">I need some assistance understanding something, please. . .<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">On the January, 2011 Gifted Education Factsheet #001, it states that a CogAT, Form 6, SAS of 127, for K-2, identifies a student as<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>superior cognitive</i>. The March, 2012 revised Factsheet #001 changes that cutoff to an SAS of 128 for K-2 students. Why would the cutoff have changed from 2011 to 2012? Since the CogAT is a normed assessment, I’m trying to understand the change. I also noticed that this occurred when the ODE accepted the new CogAT, Form 7, as an approved instrument; it has an SAS cutoff of 127 for K-2, while Form 6 has a 128. How could the norms have changed when applied to the same assessment (i.e., Form 6)?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Thank you for your help,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Chip<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Edward A. Hawks, III, M.Ed.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><hr size="5" width="460" noshade="" align="left" style="width: 276pt; "></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Gifted Intervention Specialist<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><i>|</i></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Exceptional Student Education</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Kent City School District<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><hr size="5" width="460" noshade="" align="left" style="width: 276pt; "></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">What he seemed, he was—a wholly human gentleman, the</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">essential elements of whose positive character were two and<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">only two, simplicity and spirituality.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">(Douglas Southall Freeman on Robert E. 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