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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The problem with this use of gifted ID’s is that assessments for the purpose of gifted identification in the area of Superior Cognitive Ability do not necessarily have a correlation with Math and/or Reading achievement and/or giftedness (if they did, then wouldn’t ALL students who had a Superior Cognitive ID also have an ID in Math and/or Reading???). Similarly, the list of ODE-approved assessments which may yield an ID in the area of Superior Cognitive Ability vary significantly, with some providing completely non-verbal assessment items. For example, if a student is identified as gifted in Superior Cognitive Ability via the NNAT or Raven Progressive Matrices, does this mean that he/she should naturally be expected to score high in Reading??? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m truly all for accountability and ensuring that we are growing all students (including our most gifted students)….I simply believe that the current use of ID’s is problematic and does not correctly account for the distinct areas of giftedness.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> ohiogift-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:ohiogift-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bodart, Barbara (Licking County ESC)<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:34 AM<br><b>To:</b> JShoemaker@limacityschools.org<br><b>Cc:</b> Ohiogift@lists.service.ohio-state.edu; ohiogift-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ohiogift] State Grade Card info<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes, any student identified in those specific areas (math, reading, cog and only in the applicable subject areas) in any grade regardless of service or not—at least that was the case for the 2013 report card. The future? Well, who knows?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And yes, high school and as well as any student identified in any grade will affect the overall grade.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Barb<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Barb Bodart, Gifted Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Licking County Educational Service Center<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>145 North Quentin Road <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Newark, Ohio 43055<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>740-349-6096<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:JShoemaker@limacityschools.org">JShoemaker@limacityschools.org</a> [<a href="mailto:JShoemaker@limacityschools.org">mailto:JShoemaker@limacityschools.org</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bodart, Barbara (Licking County ESC)<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Ohiogift@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">Ohiogift@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>; <a href="mailto:ohiogift-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">ohiogift-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ohiogift] State Grade Card info<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>So would students in high school also be counted in the district gifted grade card? We service students 3-8th grades only. Does that have any effect on the overall gifted grade? </span><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>So its only those who are sup. cog or sup. academic in math and reading that count toward that gifted grade? </span><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Yes, your email did help. Thanks.</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>Jeffrey Shoemaker<br>Lima City Schools Gifted Intervention Specialist<br>West Middle School<br>503 North Cable Road, Lima, OH 45805<br>Telephone:419-996-3279<br>Fax:419-996-3151<br><br><br><br><br></span><br><br><br><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>From: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Bodart, Barbara (Licking County ESC)" <<a href="mailto:bbodart@laca.org">bbodart@laca.org</a>></span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>To: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"<a href="mailto:JShoemaker@limacityschools.org">JShoemaker@limacityschools.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:JShoemaker@limacityschools.org">JShoemaker@limacityschools.org</a>></span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Cc: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"<a href="mailto:Ohiogift@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">Ohiogift@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>" <<a href="mailto:Ohiogift@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">Ohiogift@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>></span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Date: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>12/04/2013 09:38 AM</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Subject: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Re: [Ohiogift] State Grade Card info</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Sent by: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:ohiogift-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">ohiogift-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a></span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>Hello Jeffrey,</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>Gifted on the report card this year is based on just one year’s data because it is the first time the specific areas of giftedness have been disaggregated. The progress of students identified as gifted in math and/or cognitive were counted on math, and students identified as gifted in reading and/or cognitive were counted in reading, based on the OAA tests in those subjects. It is all children in the district counted as gifted in those specific areas as reflected in EMIS, not just those children seen by the gifted specialist. Those scores are then combined to come up with a composite score.</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'> </span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>However, you should know that the calculation to determine the grade is based on a formula similar to the teacher reports and not as it is calculated when you receive your value added reports. The grade card takes the overall estimated gain of the students and divides that by the standard error to come up with a growth index. Then there is a chart that tells you the grade based upon that growth index. A score equal or greater than 2 gives a district an A. A score less than -2 gives a district or school an F. Keep in mind that a C equates to average growth, meaning that they are performing as expected. On the right side of the report card under progress if you click on view more data you will see a breakdown by grade of the district’s overall combined progress by grade level and under the colorful chart is the breakdown of index scores and the grade associated with each.</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'> </span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>In contrast the value added calculation takes the estimated mean gain of the group, and compares it to the standard error. Anything beyond two standard errors gives you an above average rating or a dark green. Anything below two standard errors gives you a below expected growth or red. </span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'> </span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>Hope that helps,</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>Barb</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'> </span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>Barb Bodart, Gifted Coordinator</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>Licking County Educational Service Center</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>145 North Quentin Road </span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>Newark, Ohio 43055</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>740-349-6096</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'> </span> <br><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:ohiogift-bounces+bbodart=laca.org@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">ohiogift-bounces+bbodart=laca.org@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a> [</span><a href="mailto:ohiogift-bounces+bbodart=laca.org@lists.service.ohio-state.edu"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>mailto:ohiogift-bounces+bbodart=laca.org@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:JShoemaker@limacityschools.org">JShoemaker@limacityschools.org</a><b><br>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:44 AM<b><br>To:</b> OhioGift ListServ; <a href="mailto:ohiogift-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">ohiogift-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><b><br>Subject:</b> [Ohiogift] State Grade Card info</span> <br> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I have a few questions if anyone has some idea to the answers I would appreciate it. A few of my colleagues were in a meeting yesterday and were trying to figure out what were the subgroups that gifted gets graded on for the state grade card. Going further, does anyone know what factors go into the gifted grade on the grade state grade card. Last year we recieved an 'F', but we were not sure of why. Can anyone help so I can explain it to my colleagues?</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>Thanks</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>Jeffrey Shoemaker<br>Lima City Schools Gifted Intervention Specialist<br>West Middle School<br>503 North Cable Road, Lima, OH 45805<br>Telephone:419-996-3279<br>Fax:419-996-3151<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential information, including, but not limited to, student personally identifiable information. Such information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. 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