[Ohiogift] Fw: Post Secondary Eligibility

[Anne Flick]

Hi Mark,  

Some answers follow your questions:

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>>1.  Are there State of Ohio limits to the age a student must be or the “grade” he/she is in? 
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>>Currently the state limits participation in the post-secondary enrollment program (PSEO or PSEOP) to students in grades 9-12.  All public school students are eligible.  Nonpublicschools choose whether or not they wish to participate.  The student is limited to 8 semesters, even if s/he spends longer in grades 9-12.  A student who first utilizes PSEO in 10th grade gets only 6 semesters, in 11th grade gets only4, and 12th gets only 2.
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>>2. What if there is a younger student who is already taking mostly high school courses – would that make a difference?
>>S/he cannot use PSEO until 9th grade.  To do that, s/he has to notify the school of her/his "intent to participate" by March 30 of 8th grade (and the same date in grades 9-11 to participate in subsequent years).  (S/he can use credit flex, but the state will not pay the tuition.)  
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>>3. Are there other limits set by colleges and universities? Can they be more restrictive than State Limits?
>>Yes, colleges and universities can and often do set their own PSEO requirements, including applicationforms, application fees, GPA, counselor endorsement, SAT or ACT scores, or Compass orACCUPLACER scores.  Colleges can limit how many courses or credits they allow students to take.  They may even be able to require students be in a certain grade (usually 11th and 12th, if it is restricted).  The colleges set their own deadlines for applications and for prerequisite testing.  Often participating students are required to attend an orientation at the college.
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>>4. Can local school districts set different more restrictive limits?
>>Generally, no.  This is especially reconfirmed under credit flex.  (They can set logistical requirements, and of course theyare responsible for making sure kids meet graduation requirements.)  Families are burdened with finding and following the vastly varying and sometimes intricate PSEO application requirements of the colleges.  
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>>**Note that the *state* requires that the student carry a 3.0 GPA in the subject s/he wants to pursue through PSEO.  (Under credit flex, this requirementcannot exist, but the state is not required to pay for the course then.)  The student cannot enroll in more than a full-time schedule between the high school and the college combined.
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>>5. Is there "official stuff" somewhere answering these questions, that can be copied and given to parents - or linked to.
>>Scroll down to PSEOP for some good links to information and forms for public schools:
>>http://www.ode.state.oh.us/GD/Templates/Pages/ODE/ODEDetail.aspx?page=3&TopicRelationID=1007&ContentID=5389&Content=138413
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>    Here is the link for nonpublics:
>>http://www.ode.state.oh.us/GD/Templates/Pages/ODE/ODEDetail.aspx?page=3&TopicRelationID=695&ContentID=13583&Content=129558
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>>Thanks in advance,
>>Mark
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>>PS – Should my questions be the same for “dual enrollment?” If so, would the answers be the same?
>>Some Ohio colleges do not participate in PSEO.  Additionally, people in state border areas (like we in Cincinnati) may tap colleges in other states(two in greater Cincinnati are actually in KY).  [Private school students (and, in rare cases, some public school students) face limits to how many courses the statefunds.]  In all these cases where the family is paying and not pursuing PSEO(none of these examples even would fall under the PSEO self-pay option), then, yes, dual enrollment is a relevant question.  At that point, those studies would be governed by credit flex in public high schools (privates are now exempt), and credit flex mandates broad rights to the student, nomatter how young, as long as s/he is capable of the work.
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>>HTH,
>>Anne
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