[Natfinwellness] Textbook/curriculum information

[Sweedler, Kathryn L]

Thank you Kate. I’m always looking for current popular financial reads that I can share with others. I’ll check this one out ☺

Kathy

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From: Natfinwellness [mailto:natfinwellness-bounces at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Moody, Katherine
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 5:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Natfinwellness] Textbook/curriculum information

Librarian's perspective:

Popular financial gurus, such as Dave Ramsay, Suzie Orman, et al, certainly have a lot of good advice, but when it comes down to it, they are more salespeople than financial experts and this is too often reflected in what they recommend for all the reasons others have stated. I would avoid referencing them or any of their works in class and stick to reliable works written by people who have worked in economics/financial planning for many years.

If you do want a popular book for the students, a quite recent book, "The Index Card" by Pollack (U of Chicago econ prof) and Olen (financial journalist) is currently at the top of my reading list. I think the wise, straightforward, and simple advice would be quite palatable to the average student. This is not to say there aren't a lot of other good popular books out there too.

Cheers,

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On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Pat Bonner <patb at ifebp.org<mailto:patb at ifebp.org>> wrote:
I have to agree with Ann that Dave Ramsey materials are not a particularly good choice.  While Dave has some good advice concerning getting out of debt and reducing credit card use, his investment advice/claimed results are questionable at best.  Dave is a great salesmen.  In fact, for a fee he endorses local financial services companies. The following link provides more details why you should probably have second thoughts before using his materials.

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By using Dave’s materials in the classroom, you are in effect promoting him and those who he endorses as creditable sources of financial guidance.

There are plenty of other materials available without going down this path.

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From: Natfinwellness [mailto:natfinwellness-bounces at lists.osu.edu<mailto:natfinwellness-bounces at lists.osu.edu>] On Behalf Of Ann House
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:19 PM

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Subject: Re: [Natfinwellness] Textbook/curriculum information

I don’t feel Dave Ramsey is a reliable authority. He addresses only a certain population and his products are expensive.

Ann C. House, MS, CPFC, CEPF
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From: Natfinwellness [mailto:natfinwellness-bounces+ahouse=sa.utah.edu at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Regina Harper
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Subject: Re: [Natfinwellness] Textbook/curriculum information

Greetings,

Below is a link to information from Dave Ramsey regarding finances for college students:

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Regina

From: Natfinwellness [mailto:natfinwellness-bounces+rharpe10=cscc.edu at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of BOB RUDAY
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Subject: Re: [Natfinwellness] Textbook/curriculum information

With so much on the internet (and free and current), could that be a better option than a high priced textbook?

Bob Ruday

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The University of Tampa

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 The goal is not to create a population of personal finance experts, but to help students make better decisions with their money.


From: Natfinwellness <natfinwellness-bounces at lists.osu.edu<mailto:natfinwellness-bounces at lists.osu.edu>> on behalf of Chris Conway <Chris.Conway at apollo.edu<mailto:Chris.Conway at apollo.edu>>
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Subject: Re: [Natfinwellness] Textbook/curriculum information

I was going to suggest the Kapoor text as well.  We use that in our  first year personal finance class.  Some of it can be fairly in-depth, but it has good high-level information too- so it can work for most students.

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On Feb 26, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Pat Bonner <patb at ifebp.org<mailto:patb at ifebp.org>> wrote:
The first two textbooks that I would look at are these. I have used both for teaching personal finance at the college level.

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by E. Thomas Garman, Raymond Forgue · Cengage Learning · Hardback · 608 pages · ISBN 1133595839

Personal Finance (McGraw-Hill/Irwin Series in Finance, Insurance, and Real Est) 10th Edition
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From: Natfinwellness [mailto:natfinwellness-bounces at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Susan E. Kannenwischer
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Subject: [Natfinwellness] Textbook/curriculum information

Happy Friday!

I have been given the opportunity to teach a Personal Finance course next semester and am looking for textbook suggestions.  What has been used on your campuses that you have found to work well?  Any textbooks I should avoid?  I know there are many resources outside of a textbook format, and I plan to utilize those too, but would also like to see if there is a great text from which I can work.

Thanks,
Susan

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