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<div dir="ltr">I second the request for a series-like phrase authority. This would be a boon. True, it won't stop the addition of 490/uncontrolled 830 entries, but at least the authority will provide guidance for those who check (and correct, unfortunately).</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 3:02 PM Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg7115487178391548488">
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I can certainly create such a record, but based on previous experience (see on1322451041; and search the phrase Lamda iyun as a series) – even though a series-like phrase title doesn’t control in OCLC -- people still record the statement in</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I can certainly create such a record, but based on previous experience (see on1322451041; and search the phrase Lamda iyun as a series) – even though a series-like phrase title doesn’t control in OCLC -- people still record the statement
in a 490 and, worse, seeing there’s an authority record and not understanding why the heading doesn’t control, include the uncontrolled 830, too…
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Nancy Sack <<a href="mailto:sack@hawaii.edu" target="_blank">sack@hawaii.edu</a>> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 24, 2024 5:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shinohara, Jasmin <<a href="mailto:jshino@upenn.edu" target="_blank">jshino@upenn.edu</a>>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] series-like phrases, e.g. Pardes shirah<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">May I suggest creating an authority record for Pardes shirah, indicating that it is not a series and should not be given as a quoted note?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white">Dear colleagues, I’ve been seeing more records that include the statement Pardes shirah as a series. Online NACO series training documentation on series-like phrases
(session 12) outlines 10 categories of statements that are not to be<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve been seeing more records that include the statement Pardes shirah as a series.
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Online</a> NACO series training documentation on series-like phrases (<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/catworkshop/courses/naco-full*20series-RDA/Session*2012.pdf__;JSU!!KGKeukY!3B7g4USYPJaBM6fZNJBbvqLkSaZGBy7nI6kKprzuu6O8NhyBB4iM0cvVaR6sV7p6tODi-GSxVMJvQz8t6CyKXg$" target="_blank">session
12</a>) outlines 10 categories of statements that are <b>not </b>to be recorded as series statements. Category 8 is unnumbered genre or characterizing word. There it states, “If an unnumbered genre or characterizing word in the singular form (or plural form
having singular meaning) <i>appears only on the cover or container</i>, <i>reject it as a series</i>.” (<i>emphasis</i> in original) It further says there “Generally, do not give it as a quoted note.” The statement Pardes shirah can thus be disregarded altogether
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please do not record Pardes shirah as a series. Please do let me know if there are any questions.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you, Jasmin<u></u><u></u></p>
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