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Hi, friends, Per the HCM-RDA appendix, the Aramaic dictionary of record is Jastrow’s A dictionary of the Targumim…, “Used as the authority for supplying vowels for any Aramaic words or phrases not appearing in Even-Shoshan's Hebrew dictionary. ”
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi, friends, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Per the <i>HCM-RDA </i>appendix, the Aramaic dictionary of record is Jastrow’s
<i>A dictionary of the Targumim</i>…, “Used as the authority for supplying vowels for any Aramaic words or phrases not appearing in Even-Shoshan's Hebrew dictionary.” Using the online
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.tyndalearchive.com/TABS/Jastrow/__;!!KGKeukY!wsSzUk7HPQyHraKoo-hw8VTZCu3abS0txdfL58WlNZXcL7gb52c-acmHdrVGfRfucNesCU7TRIxomjlkF1NmRw$">edition</a> of Jastrow, the expression
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">חסורי מחסרא</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span> is found vocalized in the entry for
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">חָסַר, חֲסַר</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span> as
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חַסּוּרֵי מְחַסְּרָא</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span> with a variant for
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מִיחַסְּרָא</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>. As such, the primary romanized form is ḥasure meḥasra; since the expression is in the first five words of your title, Rachel, you can add a variant
romanization for miḥasra.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks and kol tuv, Jasmin<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Nadav Sharon via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 15, 2024 1:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Heb-NACO (heb-naco@lists.osu.edu) <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>; Rachel Simon <rsimon@princeton.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Help with an Aramaic expression<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">I would suggest: ḥasure meḥasra All the best, Nadav Nadav Sharon, PhD Judaica Librarian Thomas Fisher Rare Book Library University of Toronto 120 St George Street
Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5S 1A5 416-946-3176 From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces@ lists. osu. edu>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif;color:black">I would suggest: ḥasure meḥasra<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif;color:black">All the best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif;color:black">Nadav<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Nadav Sharon, PhD</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Judaica Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thomas Fisher Rare Book Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">University of Toronto<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">120 St George Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Toronto, Ontario, Canada<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">M5S 1A5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">416-946-3176</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>> on behalf of Rachel Simon via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 15, 2024 12:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Heb-NACO (<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>) <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] Help with an Aramaic expression</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">Good afternoon! Although I'm retired, sometimes those who know Aramaic even less ask me for help, but I'm stuck. How should the words
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL">חסורי מחסרא</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span> in the title
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL">סוגיות חסורי מחסרא בתלמוד הבבלי</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span> be romanmized? I've checked two dictionaries, and
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif;color:black">Good afternoon!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif;color:black">Although I'm retired, sometimes those who know Aramaic even less ask me for help, but I'm stuck. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif;color:black">How should the words
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#242424;background:white">חסורי מחסרא</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif;color:black"><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>
in the title </span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#242424;background:white">סוגיות חסורי מחסרא בתלמוד הבבלי</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif;color:black"><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span> be
romanmized? I've checked two dictionaries, and these words were vocalized differently. My understanding is that OCLC also has this title romanized in three ways! So, how should it really be?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif;color:black">Have fun!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif;color:black">Rachel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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