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I’d like to repeat and stress Jasmin’s endorsement of a “consistent, standard practice. ” Certain questions like this one arise over and over again in Hebraica cataloging, and can be settled only by adopting a standard—there is one, generally
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<div dir="auto">I’d like to repeat and stress Jasmin’s endorsement of a “consistent, standard practice.” Certain questions like this one arise over and over again in Hebraica cataloging, and can be settled only by adopting a standard—there is one, generally used by the largest libraries. Teach the standard. Let cataloging be a big tent, open to all who can follow standard practices no matter how shallow or deep their backgrounds in particular fields like Hebraica.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Joan, possibly tending toward curmudgeonhood in Northern California.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:19 AM Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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Hi, Cliff, Your thought about probability is interesting. Nevertheless, our documented practice has been to use the earlier of the two possible dates for both the call no. date and fixed field date. Please see the Classification and Shelflisting
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi, Cliff, <u></u>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Your thought about probability is interesting. Nevertheless, our documented practice has been to use the earlier of the two possible dates for both the call no. date and fixed field date. Please
see the <i>Classification and Shelflisting Manual</i>, <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/G140.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!wEsjQul0DQuZBL-0qOpDxMcEWkZu5YFa_eLlHo6OsaIxAe3j1lxCKGIp_X1Eh7_EuNU6yXeInF6r0BGF2-W0uFdLdIw$" target="_blank">
G140 (Dates)</a>, where a list of examples is given:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><a name="m_144164258430294193_scmclslUNDERSCORE932b"></a><a name="m_144164258430294193_scmclslUNDERSCORE932a"></a><span><i><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">2012</span></i></span><span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">
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<i>1965</i> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<i>1801</i> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<i>1990z [if corporate body, use 1990] </i><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">For fixed field dates, per my email from yesterday, please see example in
<i>BFAS</i> on <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/fixedfield/dtst.html__;!!KGKeukY!wEsjQul0DQuZBL-0qOpDxMcEWkZu5YFa_eLlHo6OsaIxAe3j1lxCKGIp_X1Eh7_EuNU6yXeInF6r0BGF2-W0yLj5ZR4$" target="_blank">
DtSt</a>. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Probability notwithstanding, a unified, consistent practice serves our users better. Please let me know if there are further questions.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks and kol tuv, Jasmin<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_144164258430294193WordSection1">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Date Status (DtSt) and Dates in the fixed field<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white">Dear Colleagues, I’m working remotely so I cannot check any references at my Seminary Library desk. As I recall the single date “s” is to be used when the date
is certain or probable. 5783 might be any of 9 months of 2023 <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dear Colleagues,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I’m working remotely so I cannot check any references at my Seminary Library desk.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">As I recall the single date “s” is to be used when the date is certain or probable.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">5783 might be any of 9 months of 2023 or any of 3 months of 2022.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">When the odds are 3 to 1 of the later date, I think we are justified in using the later date and not both years as questionable.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Is not 9 months out of 12 a high probability?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thank you.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Clifford Miller, speaking for myself and not for<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Library of the Jewish Theological Seminary<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Date Status (DtSt) and Dates in the fixed field<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white">Hi Caroline, Haim here. What I do is use the first date as THE date with the DtSt: s. Granted we don’t know fully if the date is 2012 or 2013, but this is the practice
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi Caroline,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Haim here.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">What I do is use the first date as THE date with the DtSt: s. Granted we don’t know fully if the date is 2012 or 2013, but this is the practice we do. The questionable date is when there is no
date whatsoever in the book and we have to surmise when it was published. I do use a detailed date (DtSt: e) when I have the month available, such as erev Rosh Hodesh Nisan, plus year.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I hope that this helps</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Haim</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] Date Status (DtSt) and Dates in the fixed field</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white">All, This may sound like a newbie question but I have never seen an official policy on coding the date status for materials that only have a Hebrew date. It’s clear
in RDA and the PS’s how to transcribe the date in the 264. Example </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">All,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">This may sound like a newbie question but I have never seen an official policy on coding the date status for materials that only have a Hebrew date. It’s clear in RDA and the PS’s how to transcribe the date
in the 264. Example from the book I’m cataloging:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">673 [1912 or 1913]</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I have seen this coded in the fixed field as:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">DtSt: s Dates 1912 ,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">DtSt: q Dates 1912 , 1913</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Is there an official policy on MARC coding for these fixed fields? I’ve done a little hunting on Heb-NACO and couldn’t find any official guidance.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thanks.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Caroline</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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