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<div dir="ltr">Hmm. I don't know that the language warrants a gold standard analog to Even Shoshan:<div><br></div><div>1) The corpus is finite: Nothing new is being written in any of the various Jewish takes on Aramaic (so far as I know), so the need to standardize is greatly reduced;</div><div><br></div><div>2) Lexicon is only part of the issue: As you know, Aramaic existed in a number of strata, and though it's mostly consistent-ish, there's enough variance that grammars for linguistic layers would have to recommended too;</div><div><br></div><div>3) The cost will be too much for some: A number of libraries can't afford to get the latest edition of ES, so I think adding the burden of further resources would be ill-advised. For instance, a quick Amazon search reveals the two Sokoloff books can be had for a little less than $500. Grammars would inevitably add much much more to that. Jastrow, on the other hand is readily available, and it has gotten me through many a dark and stormy evening (true stories from chez Talbott) but it's got some defects. </div><div><br></div><div>For my money, I think allowing people do what they can with the resources available to them would be the best option. Yes, there's going to be a bit of variance, but weighing the volume of material against possible inconsistencies I think the net outcome of trust in cataloging/added work cleaning up errors would be acceptable.</div><div><br></div><div>One thing that we could do is beef up our references in the "Aramaic" section of the HCM. Right now, it's just Jastrow. It has always been just Jastrow. I'm not suggesting that we ditch Jastrow, but given the number of resources that have been published in the last twenty-some odd years, it may be time to expand the list a bit.</div><div><br></div><div>My two cents.</div><div><br></div><div>Bob</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 9:17 AM Heidi G Lerner via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg6086044163923833288">
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Dear safranim, Is it possible that in our years of developing romanization schemata for several Jewish languages written in Hebrew script we have not codified any guidelines for Aramaic used in talmudic and midrashic/aggadic/cabalistic texts?
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Is it possible that in our years of developing romanization schemata for several Jewish languages written in Hebrew script we have not codified any guidelines for Aramaic used in talmudic and midrashic/aggadic/cabalistic texts? </div>
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Up until now my practice has been to follow the ALA/LC table for Hebrew. If I don't find a particular Aramaic word in Even-Shoshan or Alkalay, i turn to Jastrow, Sefaria, Comprehensive Aramaic Lexicon (covers all dialects). </div>
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What have the rest of you been doing? Should a preferred method be codified? </div>
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I look forward to learning your practices have been.</div>
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Best, Heidi</div>
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</div></blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Bob Talbott<br><br>Hebraica cataloger/Curatorial Assistant to the Judaica Collection<br><br>UC Berkeley<br><br>250 Moffitt<br><br>Berkeley, CA 94720<br></div><div><br></div><div>Lue musaraba shu biburueada Bilgameshe nam habadabkure.<br></div></div></div>