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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thank you, Jerry Anne, for the great explanation. Yes, it probably applies to the pronunciation but not to the romanization – for better and worse…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Kol tuv, Jasmin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Dickel, Geraldine <geraldine.dickel@yale.edu> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 8, 2022 9:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino@pobox.upenn.edu>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">קלוקלים</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Jasmin, <span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In biblical Hebrew grammar, the sheva under the second kof would be a vocal sheva. Because a vav holem is a long vowel, the syllable kof vav holem is an open syllable so the second kof is the beginning of the next syllable and therefore
the sheva is a vocal sheva. I don’t know if this historical grammar applies to modern Hebrew pronunciation of the word.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Jerry Anne<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Feb 7, 2022, at 11:30 PM, Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi, all, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span dir="RTL"></span><span dir="RTL"></span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><span dir="RTL"></span><span dir="RTL"></span> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The above is found in a couple titles by Toviyah Rubner (and is cited from him in the E.-Sh. entry for word). It has historically been romanized as ḳeloḳelim. My question is, why is the sheva under the second kof romanized as though it
were a vocalized sheva? As a sheva merahef, wouldn’t it be ignored and the word romanized ḳeloḳlim?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Looking forward to your input.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Jasmin<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jasmin Shinohara<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hebraica Cataloging Librarian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">University of Pennsylvania<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Philadelphia, PA 19104-6206<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">T. 215-746-6397<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:jshino@upenn.edu">jshino@upenn.edu</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Coordinator, Hebraica BIBCO, NACO, & SACO Funnels<o:p></o:p></p>
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