<div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="auto">As a systems person, <br>Having consistent data in the 264 $c is very important.
Chronograms in the 264 are messy.<br><br>Unpaired non-roman 500's are not displayed (at least in Sierra) they can be paired to a blank 500 to get the system to display them to the public.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:19 PM Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would transcribe the 264 field as follows: [Place] : [Publisher/Printer],
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">ע'ל' מ'ש'פ'ט'ו' ישב</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span> [495=1734 or 1735]<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am not sure we need a 500 field <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:David,sans-serif;color:black">יוסי גלרון-גולדשלגר</span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:David,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:David,sans-serif;color:black">טלפון נייד 1.614.805.9954</span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:David,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschläger<br>
Head, </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="http://guides.osu.edu/c.php?g=337806&p=2274681" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(17,85,204)">Hebraica & Jewish
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and German Language and Literature Librarian<br>
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<b>Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature</b>:<br>
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="http://go.osu.edu/hebrewlit" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(17,85,204)">http://go.osu.edu/hebrewlit</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Union List of Digitized Jewish Historic Newspapers and Periodicals</b><br>
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="http://go.osu.edu/jpress" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(17,85,204)">http://go.osu.edu/jpress</span></a><span lang="HE" dir="RTL"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Heb-naco <b>On Behalf Of </b>Heidi G Lerner via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 25, 2020 3:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>>; <a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] questions on chronograms in Hebrew script<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I am for the first time providing a <span>chronogram</span> for a pre-1800 Hebrew book in a note field in both transliteration and native script:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">We do not have any official guidelines in current Hebraica RDA cataloging documentation for recreating a <span>chronogram</span> from a resource
so I am emulating how it would be recorded in Bibliography of the Hebrew book.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">For the work that I am currently working on I have done it in the following manner:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">500 Date of publication derived from <span>chronogram</span>:
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL">ע’ל’ מ’ש’פ’ט’ו’ ישב</span></span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">500 Date of publication derived from <span>chronogram</span>: ʻA.l' m'i'sh'p'a'ṭo yeshev</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I would greatly appreciate any feedback from experienced <span>rare</span> book catalogers.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Sincerely, Heidi Lerner<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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