<div><div dir="auto">I get 535 = 1774 or 1775. If your transliterating, there should  not be a period after the A of Al. </div></div><div dir="auto">Barry</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 19:19 Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><br><br><div class="m_3426325714378912435WordSection1"><br><br><p class="MsoNormal">I would transcribe the 264 field as follows: [Place] : [Publisher/Printer],<br><br><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">ע'ל' מ'ש'פ'ט'ו' ישב</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span> [495=1734 or 1735]<u></u><u></u></p><br><br><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><br><br><p class="MsoNormal">I am not sure we need a 500 field <u></u><u></u></p><br><br><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><br><br><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><u></u> <u></u></p><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"David",sans-serif;color:black">יוסי גלרון-גולדשלגר</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"David",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"David",sans-serif;color:black">טלפון נייד 1.614.805.9954</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"David",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><u></u> <u></u></p><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#222222">Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschläger<br><br><br>Head, </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"><a href="http://guides.osu.edu/c.php?g=337806&p=2274681" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1155cc">Hebraica & Jewish<br><br> Studies Library</span></a></span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#222222"><br><br><br>and German Language and Literature Librarian<br><br><br>305 G Thompson Memorial Library<br><br><br>The Ohio State University Libraries <br><br><br><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/1858+Neil+Ave?entry=gmail&source=g">1858 Neil Ave</a>. Mall<br><br><br>Columbus, Ohio 43210 USA<br><br><br>Tel.: (614) 292-3362, Fax: (614)292-1918<br><br><br>Mobile: (614) 805-9954<br><br><br>E-Mail: <a href="mailto:galron.1@osu.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">galron.1@osu.edu</span></a> or <a href="mailto:jgalron@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">jgalron@gmail.com</span></a><br><br><br><br><br><br><b>Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature</b>:<br><br><br></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"><a href="http://go.osu.edu/hebrewlit" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1155cc">http://go.osu.edu/hebrewlit</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#222222"><br><br><br><b>Union List of Digitized Jewish Historic Newspapers and Periodicals</b><br><br><br></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"><a href="http://go.osu.edu/jpress" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1155cc">http://go.osu.edu/jpress</span></a><span lang="HE" dir="RTL"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p><br><br><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><br><br><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><br><br><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><br><br><div><br><br><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><br><br><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Heb-naco <b>On Behalf Of </b>Heidi G Lerner via Heb-naco<br><br><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 25, 2020 3:29 PM<br><br><br><b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>>; <a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a><br><br><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] questions on chronograms in Hebrew script<u></u><u></u></p><br><br></div><br><br></div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Dear <span class="m_3426325714378912435xmarkenn3wsgfk"><br><br>rare</span> book catalogers,<u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br></div></div></div><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_3426325714378912435WordSection1"><br><br><div><br><br><div><br><br><div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I am for the first time providing a <span class="m_3426325714378912435xmarkipvi9c0v2">chronogram</span> for a pre-1800 Hebrew book in a note field in both transliteration and native script:<u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">We do not have any official guidelines in current Hebraica RDA cataloging documentation for recreating a <span class="m_3426325714378912435xmarkipvi9c0v2">chronogram</span> from a resource<br><br> so I am emulating how it would be recorded in Bibliography of the Hebrew book.<u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">For the work that I am currently working on I have done it in the following manner:<u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">500 Date of publication derived from <span class="m_3426325714378912435xmarkipvi9c0v2">chronogram</span>:<br><br><span lang="HE" dir="RTL">ע’ל’ מ’ש’פ’ט’ו’ ישב</span></span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">500 Date of publication derived from <span class="m_3426325714378912435xmarkipvi9c0v2">chronogram</span>: ʻA.l' m'i'sh'p'a'ṭo yeshev</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I would greatly appreciate any feedback from experienced <span class="m_3426325714378912435xmarkenn3wsgfk">rare</span> book catalogers.<u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Sincerely, Heidi Lerner<u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br></div><br><br><div><br><br><div><br><br><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br><div id="m_3426325714378912435x_Signature"><br><br><div><br><br><div id="m_3426325714378912435x_divtagdefaultwrapper"><br><br><p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Heidi G. Lerner<u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br><p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica<u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br><p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Metadata Dept.<u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br><p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Stanford University Libraries<u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br><p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Stanford, CA 94305-6004<u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br><p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">ph: 650-725-9953<u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br><p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">fax: 650-725-1120<u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br><p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">e-mail: <a href="mailto:lerner@stanford.edu" target="_blank"><br><br>lerner@stanford.edu</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><br><br></div><br><br></div><br><br></div><br><br></div><br><br></div><br><br></div><br><br></div><br><br></div><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>Heb-naco mailing list<br><br><a href="mailto:Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a><br><br><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo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