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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Heidi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thank you. May I ask, in the 264 – if all we have is the chronogram – do we use only the Gregorian date in both the 264 and its 880 field?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Haim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces+hgot=loc.gov@lists.osu.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Heidi G Lerner via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 25, 2020 3:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu>; heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] questions on chronograms in Hebrew script<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear
<span class="xmarkenn3wsgfk">rare</span> book catalogers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I am for the first time providing a <span class="xmarkipvi9c0v2">chronogram</span> for a pre-1800 Hebrew book in a note field in both transliteration and
native script:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">We do not have any official guidelines in current Hebraica RDA cataloging documentation for recreating a <span class="xmarkipvi9c0v2">chronogram</span> from
a resource so I am emulating how it would be recorded in Bibliography of the Hebrew book.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">For the work that I am currently working on I have done it in the following manner:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">500 Date of publication derived from <span class="xmarkipvi9c0v2">chronogram</span>:
</span></b><b><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">ע’ל’ מ’ש’פ’ט’ו’ ישב</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">500 Date of publication derived from <span class="xmarkipvi9c0v2">chronogram</span>: ʻA.l' m'i'sh'p'a'ṭo yeshev</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I would greatly appreciate any feedback from experienced <span class="xmarkenn3wsgfk">rare</span> book catalogers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Sincerely, Heidi Lerner<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Heidi G. Lerner<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:lerner@stanford.edu">lerner@stanford.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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