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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Sorry, but there’s no such thing as melo’ut. It’s bi-melot. See E-Sh. for
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">îìà</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:#1F497D"><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jshino=pobox.upenn.edu@lists.osu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Abend-David,Ilana via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Galron, Joseph; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">áâìì</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If so how would you transliterate
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">áîìàåú</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> 25 ùðä
</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:#1F497D"><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span> ? Would this be correct bi-melo'ut ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 7, 2019 12:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">
áâìì</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">It is “dangerous” going to Biglal or Bishvil – tomorrow we will say: If it is Bishvil so why not change it to Shvil
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We also Romanize </span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">áéøåùìéí
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:#1F497D">to “Bi-Yerushalayim” and not to “Birushalayim”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Yossi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 7, 2019 12:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gottschalk, Haim <<a href="mailto:hgot@loc.gov">hgot@loc.gov</a>>; 'Hebrew Name Authority Funnel' <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">
áâìì</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi, Haim, bi-gelal would be correct if the
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">á</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">is considered a prefix to the word </span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">âìì</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:#1F497D"><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>.
But since there is a direct entry for the word as a whole, I’m asking if we should romanize it as a whole word instead of as a compound word.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks, Jasmin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Gottschalk, Haim [<a href="mailto:hgot@loc.gov">mailto:hgot@loc.gov</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 07, 2019 12:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shinohara, Jasmin; 'Hebrew Name Authority Funnel'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">áâìì</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#C0504D">I think it should be “biglal” and not “bi-gelal” because of the sheva being treat as a sheva nach (which is how it is in the Alcalay). This is in my humble opinion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#C0504D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#C0504D">~Haim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#C0504D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 07, 2019 11:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] <span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">
áâìì</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Hello Collective Wisdom, please remind me: if there’s an entry in E-Sh., even if it ends with a “see also”, is that sufficient justification for romanizing the word as a word as opposed to a compound?
E.g. </span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:KO">áâìì</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:JA">
</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">has a direct entry, so I’d think it would be romanized biglal (NOT bigelal because as a whole word, the sheva would be considered merahef, ignored in romanization), but the entry also says “see
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:KO">âìì</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>”. So which is it:
Biglal or Bi-gelal?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Thanks, Jasmin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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