<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:#954F72;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;}
p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0
{mso-style-name:msonormal;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;}
span.EmailStyle19
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="#954F72">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have another 51 years to 120 to retire ….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Yossi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Gabe Angulo via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 7, 2019 5:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino@pobox.upenn.edu>; Hebrew Name AuthorityFunnel <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">בגלל</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So much needs to change, we have a life’s work ahead of us!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">
Mail</a> for Windows 10<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, February 7, 2019 5:30 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:galron.1@osu.edu">Galron, Joseph</a>; <a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">
Hebrew Name Authority Funnel</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
בגלל</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">So then why did we decide to change practice with the 10 words below? If we strive for accuracy
<i>and</i> consistency, something needs to change. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Heb-naco [<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jshino=pobox.upenn.edu@lists.osu.edu">mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jshino=pobox.upenn.edu@lists.osu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 07, 2019 5:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">בגלל</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I checked previous editions of ES and their also was a refrence to Gelal or Shevil<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">It is not a change from previous editions of the Dictionary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I don’t agree that it is wrong. I wouldn’t change it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Yossi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert M. TALBOTT via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 7, 2019 4:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Neil Manel Frau-Cortes <<a href="mailto:nfrau@umd.edu">nfrau@umd.edu</a>>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
בגלל</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Folks:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I have to say that I'm in Yosi's camp. A vote for "bi-gelal" is a vote for sanity.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">B <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 1:23 PM Neil Manel Frau-Cortes via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I agree with Jasmin.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Neil<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 4:20 PM Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">I hear the concern, Yossi, but I’m afraid we’ve already started down the proverbial slope. Per the
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><a href="http://rascat.pbworks.com/w/page/109347700/Romanization%20FAQ" target="_blank">FAQ</a><span style="color:#1F497D">, we’ve agreed to romanize the words as</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Bediʻavad</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Bahem</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Bilvad</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Kaʻet</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Kefi</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Levad</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Lemaʻan</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Lefi</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Mimeni</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Sheli</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">No one can argue for Shvil since the sheva na’ at the beginning of a word requires it to be Shevil. No one can argue for Birushalayim because there is no E-Sh. entry for the compound.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">So do I hear consensus on Biglal (and Bishvil – when it means “because/on behalf of”; otherwise bi/ba-shevil when it means “on a/the path)?</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Heb-naco [mailto:</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 07, 2019 12:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">בגלל</span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">It is “dangerous” going to Biglal or Bishvil – tomorrow we will say: If it is Bishvil so why not change it to Shvil
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">We also Romanize
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">בירושלים
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">to “Bi-Yerushalayim” and not to “Birushalayim”</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Yossi</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 7, 2019 12:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gottschalk, Haim <<a href="mailto:hgot@loc.gov" target="_blank">hgot@loc.gov</a>>; 'Hebrew Name Authority Funnel' <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">בגלל</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Hi, Haim, bi-gelal would be correct if the
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">ב</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">is considered a prefix to the word
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">גלל</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>.
But since there is a direct entry for the word as a whole, I’m asking if we should romanize it as a whole word instead of as a compound word.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks, Jasmin</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Gottschalk, Haim [</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><a href="mailto:hgot@loc.gov" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">mailto:hgot@loc.gov</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 07, 2019 12:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shinohara, Jasmin; 'Hebrew Name Authority Funnel'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">בגלל</span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#C0504D">I think it should be “biglal” and not “bi-gelal” because of the sheva being treat as a sheva nach (which is how it is in the Alcalay). This is in my humble opinion.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#C0504D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#C0504D">~Haim</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#C0504D"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 07, 2019 11:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">בגלל</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Hello Collective Wisdom, please remind me: if there’s an entry in E-Sh., even if it ends with a “see also”, is that sufficient justification for romanizing the word as a word as opposed to a
compound? E.g. </span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">בגלל</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">has a direct entry, so I’d think it would be romanized biglal (NOT bigelal because as a whole word, the sheva would be considered merahef, ignored in romanization), but the entry also
says “see </span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">גלל</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>”.
So which is it: Biglal or Bi-gelal?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Thanks, Jasmin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">---<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Jasmin Shinohara<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Hebraica Cataloging Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">University of Pennsylvania<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Van Pelt-Dietrich Library Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">3420 Walnut Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Philadelphia, PA 19104-6206<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">T. 215-746-6397<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><a href="mailto:jshino@upenn.edu" target="_blank">jshino@upenn.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:9.6pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">_______________________________________________<br>
Heb-naco mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco" target="_blank">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><br clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">--
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="color:black">Neil M. Frau-Cortes, Ph.D. </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">(he, him, his)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Judaica, Hebraica and Metadata Cataloger</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><span style="color:black">University of Maryland</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">4109
</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:black">McKeldin Library</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:black">College Park, MD 20742</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Phone (301) 405-9337</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><a href="http://nfrau@umd.edu" target="_blank">nfrau@umd.edu</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="color:black">ORCID ID: </span><a href="https://orcid.org/0000-0002-1881-1405" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">https://orcid.org/0000-0002-1881-1405</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">_______________________________________________<br>
Heb-naco mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco" target="_blank">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><br clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">--
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Bob Talbott<br>
<br>
Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger<br>
<br>
UC Berkeley<br>
<br>
250 Moffitt<br>
<br>
Berkeley, CA 94720<br>
<br>
If they're too small for court, they're probably shorts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">If they're long and advanced, you're looking at pants<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
</body>
</html>