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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>So much needs to change, we have a life’s work ahead of us!</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, February 7, 2019 5:30 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:galron.1@osu.edu">Galron, Joseph</a>; <a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">Hebrew Name Authority Funnel</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>בגלל</span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So then why did we decide to change practice with the 10 words below? If we strive for accuracy <i>and</i> consistency, something needs to change. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jshino=pobox.upenn.edu@lists.osu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 07, 2019 5:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang=HE dir=RTL>בגלל</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I checked previous editions of ES and their also was a refrence to Gelal or Shevil<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>It is not a change from previous editions of the Dictionary.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I don’t agree that it is wrong. I wouldn’t change it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Yossi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert M. TALBOTT via Heb-naco<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 7, 2019 4:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> Neil Manel Frau-Cortes <nfrau@umd.edu>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>בגלל</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Folks:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>I have to say that I'm in Yosi's camp. A vote for "bi-gelal" is a vote for sanity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>B <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 1:23 PM Neil Manel Frau-Cortes via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>I agree with Jasmin.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Neil<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 4:20 PM Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>I hear the concern, Yossi, but I’m afraid we’ve already started down the proverbial slope. Per the </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><a href="http://rascat.pbworks.com/w/page/109347700/Romanization%20FAQ" target="_blank">FAQ</a><span style='color:#1F497D'>, we’ve agreed to romanize the words as</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Bediʻavad</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Bahem</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Bilvad</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Kaʻet</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Kefi</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Levad</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Lemaʻan</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Lefi</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Mimeni</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Sheli</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>No one can argue for Shvil since the sheva na’ at the beginning of a word requires it to be Shevil. No one can argue for Birushalayim because there is no E-Sh. entry for the compound.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>So do I hear consensus on Biglal (and Bishvil – when it means “because/on behalf of”; otherwise bi/ba-shevil when it means “on a/the path)?</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Heb-naco [mailto:</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 07, 2019 12:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang=HE dir=RTL>בגלל</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>It is “dangerous” going to Biglal or Bishvil – tomorrow we will say: If it is Bishvil so why not change it to Shvil </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>We also Romanize </span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>בירושלים </span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>to “Bi-Yerushalayim” and not to “Birushalayim”</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Yossi</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 7, 2019 12:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> Gottschalk, Haim <<a href="mailto:hgot@loc.gov" target="_blank">hgot@loc.gov</a>>; 'Hebrew Name Authority Funnel' <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] <span lang=HE dir=RTL>בגלל</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Hi, Haim, bi-gelal would be correct if the </span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>ב</span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>is considered a prefix to the word </span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>גלל</span><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><span dir=LTR></span>. But since there is a direct entry for the word as a whole, I’m asking if we should romanize it as a whole word instead of as a compound word.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks, Jasmin</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Gottschalk, Haim [</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><a href="mailto:hgot@loc.gov" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>mailto:hgot@loc.gov</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 07, 2019 12:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> Shinohara, Jasmin; 'Hebrew Name Authority Funnel'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: <span lang=HE dir=RTL>בגלל</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#C0504D'>I think it should be “biglal” and not “bi-gelal” because of the sheva being treat as a sheva nach (which is how it is in the Alcalay). This is in my humble opinion.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#C0504D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#C0504D'>~Haim</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#C0504D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 07, 2019 11:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] <span lang=HE dir=RTL>בגלל</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Hello Collective Wisdom, please remind me: if there’s an entry in E-Sh., even if it ends with a “see also”, is that sufficient justification for romanizing the word as a word as opposed to a compound? E.g. </span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>בגלל</span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>has a direct entry, so I’d think it would be romanized biglal (NOT bigelal because as a whole word, the sheva would be considered merahef, ignored in romanization), but the entry also says “see </span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>גלל</span><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><span dir=LTR></span>”. 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