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<div dir="auto">Yes, le-ovdekha be-emet is the one I was thinking of. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Thank you all for your help.
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<div>My solution:</div>
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<div>245 ...otsbekha</div>
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<div>and a 246</div>
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<div>246 ...atsbekha</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 8:33 AM, Barry Walfish <span dir="ltr">
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<div style="direction:ltr; font-family:Tahoma; color:#000000; font-size:10pt">No, avdekha has a patah under the ayin.
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<div>Ve-taher libenu le-ovdekha be-emet is different. That's from the verb la'avod with Kamats katan under the ayin. </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">Ah, OK, otsev rather then etsev. Yes, then, I agree, it should be otsbekha, with kamats katan.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">That would be fine if the ‘ayin were pointed with patah, but apparently it has kamats katan.
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On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:29 PM, Barry Walfish <<a href="mailto:barry.walfish@utoronto.ca" target="_blank">barry.walfish@utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">I'd say, definitely 'atsbekha, with a patah. It's from 'etsev, just like 'eved. So, 'atsbekha, like 'avdekha.
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