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<div>Ve-taher libenu le-ovdekha be-emet is different. That's from the verb la'avod with Kamats katan under the ayin. </div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 13, 2018 8:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Be-halmot ha-patish<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+schiffma=yu.edu@lists.osu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Barry Walfish<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Be-halmot ha-patish</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">Ah, OK, otsev rather then etsev. Yes, then, I agree, it should be otsbekha, with kamats katan.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black"> Heb-naco [heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu]
 on behalf of Joan Biella [jbiella2632@gmail.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 12, 2018 11:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Be-halmot ha-patish</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">That would be fine if the ‘ayin were pointed with patah, but apparently it has kamats katan.
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On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:29 PM, Barry Walfish <<a href="mailto:barry.walfish@utoronto.ca" target="_blank">barry.walfish@utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">I'd say, definitely 'atsbekha, with a patah. It's from 'etsev, just like 'eved. So, 'atsbekha, like 'avdekha.
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Barry Dov Walfish, Ph.D.<br>
Judaica Bibliographaer and Curator (em.)<br>
University of Toronto Libraries <br>
Toronto, ON M5S 1A5<br>
Canada</span></p>
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