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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:JA">OK, so I’m hearing that people favor a compromise solution, both including the symbol (or as close as can be represented in OCLC) and the bracketed term. Note that this is in contravention
of the LC-PCC PS and RDA, which say either/or, not both the symbol and a description.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:JA">Now the question is, what do we call the symbol: Nekudah, dot, as per the NLI variants? ‘Igul shaḥor, black circle, as per the book blurb? Neither is accurate: a dot is not necessarily
in the middle of the row; a circle is just the outline, not necessarily filled. In any event, I’m leaning toward the publisher’s use:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tsurat ʻatid = ǂb Future tense / ǂc · <span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">
[‘Igul shaḥor] </span>; ʻorekhet ha-sefer, Naʻamah Tsal<span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">and 500 note: </span>On the title page the author pseudonym appears as a black
<span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">filled circle</span>.<span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">I will leave the call no. as originally assigned by LC to the first novel, PJ5055.1 (anonymous works).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">As to Marlene’s question,
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:KO">מחבר ספר עלטה</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span dir="LTR"></span> wouldn’t work very well in the 245|c for Sefer ‘alaṭah.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Thanks, Jasmin</span><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dickel, Geraldine<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 17, 2017 3:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] author name as symbol<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The dot in the Israeli catalog is much bigger, and is not likely to be mistaken for a random bit of punctuation. Unfortunately, a larger dot doesn’t seem to be available in OCLC or Voyager.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I do like Jasmin’s explanatory 500 note, and it does seem to me that it would be good to put something in the statement of responsibility to show that there is an author given on the item. I think that I like Jossi’s solution of putting
in both a dot and the bracketed description.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Jerry Anne<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Heb-naco [<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu">mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marlene Schiffman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 17, 2017 3:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] author name as symbol<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Is a reader going to understand all this? Wouldn’t someone be happier with
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">מחבר ספר עלטה
</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">as the name?</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">There could always be a note that the name is represented in the book by a symbol.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Isn’t there a [name not given] also in use? Who is going to see the “author” in the title
</span>Tsurat ʻatid = ǂb Future tense / ǂc · ; ʻorekhet ha-sefer, Naʻamah Tsal?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Marlene Schiffman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Gottesman Library Technical Services</span><span style="font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Yeshiva University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">500 West 185<sup>th</sup> Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">New York, NY 10033<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">646 592-4276 (direct)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">646 592-4100 (general office)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Heb-naco [</span><a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Shinohara, Jasmin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 17, 2017 1:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] author name as symbol<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Collective Wisdom,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Several of you have holdings on the records for the titles Sefer ʻalaṭah (ocn 881168787) and Tsurat ʻatid (ocn 972489390). You may or may not have noticed that the t.p., t.p. verso, spine and cover have a big black dot in the place of
an author’s name – that’s his symbolic pseudonym. (Surrogates attached for reference.) As per the DCMZ1 and BIBCO participant’s manual, “NARs are not made for personal names when the only clue to the person’s identity is a non-alphabetic or nonnumeric device,
topical subject headings, or geographic features.” (The <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__uli.nli.org.il_F_GFQGAEA68TJPI42GD9R79VXIMBCXIU311G84EXD1R2YTRGKSJL-2D44053-3Ffunc-3Dfind-2Dacc-26acc-5Fsequence-3D010494230&d=DwMGaQ&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=cX-JfhQlUwhLVWvvsRM8LpRtWoJnc-1xOAkRHgoNXs0&m=mHcxD5VOwGvVD1sR-HhaYvP7mJcYe7IMUIKz0bWNdMY&s=iJhFHBAHjnLvEnLnB2GIbDEDaYLWYrzmrEQQEas8J50&e=">
NLI</a> has disregarded this instruction and has him established as ·, with cross references from
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">מחבר ספר עלטה</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>,
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">נקודה</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>, and
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">נקדה</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>.)
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nevertheless, I would think that there should be some representation in at least the descriptive fields, lest it appear as though it’s a compiled work with just an editor. Per the LC-PCC PS on 1.7.5 (Symbols) section 4, I have changed the
24500 from<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tsurat ʻatid = ǂb Future tense / ǂc ʻorekhet ha-sefer, Naʻamah Tsal.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">to <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">צורת עתיד</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">
</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>= ǂb Future tense / ǂc [<span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">נקודה] ; עורכת הספר, נעמה צאל</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tsurat ʻatid = ǂb Future tense / ǂc [Neḳudah] ; ʻorekhet ha-sefer, Naʻamah Tsal.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">and added an explanatory 500:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On the title page the author pseudonym appears as a black dot.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(with similar changes to the bib for Sefer ʻalaṭah).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I do wonder, though, since the middle dot does appear in OCLC’s character menu (titled “dot in center of line”), i.e., it IS “represented in the character set” (LC-PCC PS) / and CAN “be reproduced by the facilities available” (RDA), should
I not transcribe it as is (as the <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__primo.nli.org.il_primo-5Flibrary_libweb_action_dlDisplay.do-3Fvid-3DNLI-26docId-3DNNL-5FALEPH003961242&d=DwMGaQ&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=cX-JfhQlUwhLVWvvsRM8LpRtWoJnc-1xOAkRHgoNXs0&m=mHcxD5VOwGvVD1sR-HhaYvP7mJcYe7IMUIKz0bWNdMY&s=7nOMYnbAUELe4_LQCNuAFRkPLWbHoySQmYLnfP0ehyE&e=">
NLI</a> has done):<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">צורת עתיד</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">
</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>= ǂb Future tense / ǂc · ; <span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
עורכת הספר, נעמה צאל</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tsurat ʻatid = ǂb Future tense / ǂc · ; ʻorekhet ha-sefer, Naʻamah Tsal.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">What think you all?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Jasmin<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">---<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Jasmin Shinohara<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hebraica Cataloging Librarian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">University of Pennsylvania<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Van Pelt-Dietrich Library Center<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">3420 Walnut Street<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Philadelphia, PA 19104-6206<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">T. 215-746-6397<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">F. 215-573-9610<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:jshino@upenn.edu">jshino@upenn.edu</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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