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<p>Thank you Ahava for your very helpful comments.</p>
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<p>Jasmin, RDA does not specify where</p>
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<p>Heidi G. Lerner</p>
<p>Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica</p>
<p>Metadata Dept.</p>
<p>Stanford University Libraries</p>
<p>Stanford, CA 94305-6004</p>
<p>ph: 650-725-9953</p>
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<p>e-mail: lerner@stanford.edu</p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces+lerner=stanford.edu@lists.osu.edu> on behalf of Ahava Cohen <soferim@013net.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 29, 2016 5:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] hebrew dates in 264 redux</font>
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<div>The dates on the covers of books have legal standing in Israel. According to paragraph 5b of the Books and Authors Law publishers must put the date of printing (publication) of the first edition of the book on the outside cover of print versions. The law
was recently amended and it is unclear if publishers will continue providing this date past September 2016.
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<div>For what it's worth, the Israeli national cataloging committee recently ruled that this date may be used as a publication statement in the absence of an explicit publication statement, but that the cover is a less preferred source than are the title page
and title page verso. This date does not, despite the wording of the law, serve as an edition statement in and of itself.</div>
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<div>Ahava Cohen</div>
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<div>National Library of Israel</div>
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<b>From</b>: "Shinohara, Jasmin" <jshino@pobox.upenn.edu><br>
<b>To</b>: "Hebrew Name Authority Funnel" <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu><br>
<b>Sent</b>: Wed, Jun 29, 2016, 1:19 AM<br>
<b>Subject</b>: [Heb-NACO] hebrew dates in 264 redux<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Following our committee meeting, and to be sure I have it straight, please confirm that PCC now follows LC and we are to supply non-Latin script for Hebrew dates in the vernacular 264 (and Arabic dates in rom. 264).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Also, I’m noticing many cases when the date appears on the back of the book, e.g.
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">יולי 2015</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style=""><span dir="LTR"></span>, the bib record disregards that information and only records what appears on the t.p. verso (typically ©</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">תשע"ה</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style=""><span dir="LTR"></span>,
©2015, or ©</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">יולי 2015</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style=""><span dir="LTR"></span>]), so bibs currently have 2641 [775 = 2015] or [775 = Yuli 2015] with a 2644 for the © dates.
Shouldn’t it just be 2641 Yuli 2015 (and vern 2641 </span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">יולי 2015</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style=""><span dir="LTR"></span>) with fixed fields DtSt e/Date 1 2015/Date 2 07?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Thanks, Jasmin</span></p>
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