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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi, I’m struggling to understand the vowel Romanization for Ladino: when does an
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">א</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span dir="LTR"></span> simply get transcribed as an ‘a’ and when with a diacritical aleph; when there’s no vocalization,
how does one know when the </span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:KO">ו</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span lang="HE" style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span dir="LTR"></span>
</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">(vav) is an ‘o’ or a ‘u’? Is an </span>
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:KO">אי</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span dir="LTR"></span> always ‘e’, or sometimes ‘i’, depending on the context? The same for a
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:KO">י</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span dir="LTR"></span> (yod) -- when there’s no vocalization, how does one know when it’s
an ‘e’ and when it’s an ‘i’? For those of us who don’t know Spanish, it’s rather a toss-up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">The case I have in hand is
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right"><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:JA">איל אינג'יניאוזו הידלגו דון קיש'וטי די לה מאנג'ה</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span dir="LTR"></span>
: ǂb <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">(</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:JA">קאפיטולוש. 1-8</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span dir="LTR"></span>)
/ ǂc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"></span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:JA">קומפואישטו פור מיגיל די סירב'אנטיש שאאוידרה ; וירשיאון אלג'אמיאדה
פור פילאר רומיאו-פ'ירי, שיגון לה פרימירה אידיסיאון די מאדריד די ג'ואן די לה קואישטה (1605</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span dir="LTR"></span>)</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Though there’s no vocalization on the
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:KO">ש</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>’s</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">,
given the context I know </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">they’re</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"> meant to be ‘sin’ (other than in
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:JA">קיש'וטי</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>)</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">
; but otherwise, do I go for consistency when Romanizing the vavs and yods, or, especially in the case of names, transcribe what makes sense? This is my current stab at it:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">El enjene’ozo hidalgo Don Ḳeshoṭe de lah Manjah : ǂb (ḳapitoloś. 1-8) / ǂc ḳompo</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">’</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">eśṭo por Megel de
Servanṭeś Śa</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">’</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">aṿedrah ; ṿerśe</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">’</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">on aljameadah por Pelar Romeo-Fere,
śegon lah premerah edeseon de Madrid de Joan de lah Ḳoeśṭah (1605).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">But in this case I’ve got an added t.p. in Spanish:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">El ingenioso hidalgo Don Quijote de la Mancha : ǂb (capítulos 1-8) / ǂc compuesto por Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra ; versión aljamiada por Pilar Romeu Ferré según la primera edición de Madrid de
Juan de la Cuesta (1605).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">Based on the Spanish</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"> I’m second-guessing some
</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">the romanized </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">words:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Should it be enjene’ozo or injeneozo? Or injene’ozo?</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">
</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Or injen</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">i</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">’ozo?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Is it Ḳeshoṭe or Ḳishoṭe?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">ḳapitoloś. or ḳapituloś. (the full stop appears on the source)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">ḳompo</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">’</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">eśṭo or ḳompueśṭo? Or ḳompu’eśṭo?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Megel or Migel?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">6.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Śa</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">’</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">aṿedrah or Śaaṿedrah?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">7.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">ṿerśe</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">'</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">on or ṿerśion? Or ṿerśi’on?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">8.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">aljameadah or aljamiadah? Or aljami’adah?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">9.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Pelar or Pilar?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">10.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Romeo or Romeu? Or Rome’u?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">11.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">śegon or śegun?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">12.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">premerah or primerah?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">13.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">edeseon or edision? Or edisi’on?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">14.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Jo</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">’</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">an or Juan? Or Ju’an?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Ḳo</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">’</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">eśṭah or Ḳueśṭah? Or Ḳu’eśṭah?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">Please advise. Thanks!! Jasmin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">---<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Jasmin Shinohara<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hebraica Cataloging Librarian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">University of Pennsylvania<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Van Pelt-Dietrich Library Center<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">3420 Walnut Street<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Philadelphia, PA 19104-6206<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">T. 215-746-6397<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">F. 215-573-9610<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">jshino@upenn.edu<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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