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<p>That is why we have the listserv......</p>
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<p>Heidi G. Lerner</p>
<p>Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica</p>
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<p>Stanford University Libraries</p>
<p>Stanford, CA 94305-6004</p>
<p>ph: 650-725-9953</p>
<p>fax: 650-725-1120</p>
<p>e-mail: lerner@stanford.edu</p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Robert M. TALBOTT <rtalbott@library.berkeley.edu><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Heidi G Lerner<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] compilation treatment in MARC</font>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Heidi:
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<div>I'm glad I asked. I was unaware that this particular slide show existed (or if I was aware, I've forgotten). Anyhow, slide 33 it is.</div>
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<div>Disturbance in the Force: resolved.</div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Heidi G Lerner <span dir="ltr">
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<p>Hi Bob, </p>
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<p>This is one of those non-intuitive situations that we often come upon with religious works accompanied by significant commentaries.</p>
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<p>I always start by looking at the document "</p>
<h3><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiopZqiqcvNAhUS6WMKHaAUASYQFggfMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.loc.gov%2Faba%2Frda%2Fsource%2Fspecial_topics_compilations.ppt&usg=AFQjCNHtuRvmfXo18b_cA1J9CxE-LajDJA&bvm=bv.125801520,bs.2,d.cGc" target="_blank">RDA
Special Topics: Compilations & Collaborations</a>"</h3>
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<div>slides 33-37</div>
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<div>Much as it seems off I think that what you have is the situation found on slide 33 which is what you have presented us.</div>
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<div>Your other alternative if you feel very strongly is to make a note with the publisher's comments; enter it under the heading for psalms:</div>
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<div>130 Bible.|pPsalms</div>
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<div>and add an access point for</div>
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<div>700 1 <span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",NotoColorEmoji,"Segoe UI Symbol","Android Emoji",EmojiSymbols; font-size:13.3333px">Adari, Refaelm,|ewriter of added commentary.</span></div>
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<div>If anyone has other thoughts I am happy to hear.</div>
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<div>Best, Heidi</div>
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<p>Heidi G. Lerner</p>
<p>Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica</p>
<p>Metadata Dept.</p>
<p>Stanford University Libraries</p>
<p>Stanford, CA 94305-6004</p>
<p>ph: <a href="tel:650-725-9953" value="+16507259953" target="_blank">650-725-9953</a></p>
<p>fax: <a href="tel:650-725-1120" value="+16507251120" target="_blank">650-725-1120</a></p>
<p>e-mail: <a href="mailto:lerner@stanford.edu" target="_blank">lerner@stanford.edu</a></p>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>> on behalf of Robert M. TALBOTT <<a href="mailto:rtalbott@library.berkeley.edu" target="_blank">rtalbott@library.berkeley.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] compilation treatment in MARC</font>
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<div>Folks:<br>
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I have a work in front of me that is causing me RDA problems:<br>
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Iyunim be-sifrut mizmore Tehilim / Dr. Refael Adari.<br>
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The book is a compilation of two parts: the full text of Psalms and<br>
Dr. Adari's commentary, which has no special name aside from Iyunim<br>
be-sifrut mizmore Tehilim.<br>
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Since it's a compilation, the structure is:<br>
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24500 XXXXXXXXXX<br>
7XX12$Container of (work):$aXXXXXXXX<br>
7XX12$Container of (work):$aXXXXXXXX<br>
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For the piece in hand,<br>
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24500 Iyunim be-sifrut mizmore Tehilim ....<br>
70012$iContainer of (work):$aAdari, Refael. $t Iyunim be-sifrut mizmore Tehilim<br>
73002$iContainer of (work):$aBible. $p Psalms. etc.<br>
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The problem for me is that in its presentation, the publisher is<br>
clearly emphasizing the commentary as the major feature of the book<br>
even though it's one of two constituent parts.<br>
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1) Is this truly a compilation or is there a way of reading the rules<br>
(aside from a less-than-full encoding level) to allow for a more<br>
intuitive/AACR2-esque approach, e.g.<br>
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10010Adari, Refael<br>
24510Iyunim be-sifrut mizmore Tehilim ....<br>
73002$iContainer of (work):$aBible. $p Psalms. etc.<br>
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2) "70012$iContainer of (work):$aAdari, Refael. $t Iyunim be-sifrut<br>
mizmore Tehilim" makes me uneasy, mostly because I think it'll cause<br>
confusion among both patrons and catalogers. Am I correct in my<br>
formulation? Is there a better way of doing this?<br>
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Thanks for your help.<br>
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Bob<br>
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