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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I agree, it’s a can of worms. But maybe we can at least eliminate a few inconsistencies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Yossi Galron<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Romanization Question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Colleagues, <br>
We need to be careful in deciding to change our practice. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>One argument that was raised (and I agree with it) is the fact that no native speaker says: Deramah or Pesikhologyah, etc.<br>
But also no native speaker of Hebrew would say Tsefat for <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">
צפת</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span> or Teveryah for <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">
טבריה</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>. <br>
But we romanize the name <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">טברסקי</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span> as Tverski (Twersky) and not as Teverski.
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Yossi<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 11, 2015 11:18 AM, "Yossi Galron" <<a href="mailto:jgalron@gmail.com">jgalron@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Semadar (or do you prefer Smadar :-)<br>
The examples you brought are not according to the practice we were using and are not "correct", but in general I support the discussion and we need to reconsider the matter.<br>
Kol tuv<br>
Yossi [also not according to the rules]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 11, 2015 11:10 AM, "sshtuhl" <<a href="mailto:sshtuhl@upenn.edu" target="_blank">sshtuhl@upenn.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I agree with Barry. When we look at the word pesikhologyah we have over ten sub-fields that should be Rominized as: psikhologyah genetit, psikhologyah hevdelit. However, there is also pesikhologyah shimushit
without any visible reason for the difference. Likewise, there is pesikhopati but ishiyut psikhopatit. This inconsistency confuses matters.<br>
Smadar<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11/10/2015 10:39 PM, Barry Walfish wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Maybe it's time to revisit this rule and stop using Alcalay as an authority. Maybe those two cases are typos.<br>
So right now we have:<br>
kriminologyah<br>
statistiskah<br>
but deramah.<br>
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psikhologyah<br>
psikhi, etc.<br>
but pesefas.<br>
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Note that in the Rav-milim online edition, all of these have a sheva under the first letter.
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The logical and consistent rule would be to treat all these words as loan words and not put in the sheva na.<br>
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Why should Alcalay trump logic, consistency, and current usage? How would a reader know about this obscure, case by case rule?
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I can assure you that no native speaker of Hebrew says deramah or pesefas. <br>
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I guess this all goes to show how imperfect and difficult the system we're using is. Hurray for the vernacular.
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Barry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Barry Dov Walfish, Ph.D.<br>
Judaica Specialist<br>
University of Toronto Libraries <br>
Toronto, ON M5S 1A5<br>
Canada<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> Heb-naco [<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces+barry.walfish=utoronto.ca@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco-bounces+barry.walfish=utoronto.ca@lists.osu.edu</a>]
on behalf of Heidi G Lerner [<a href="mailto:lerner@stanford.edu" target="_blank">lerner@stanford.edu</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 10, 2015 5:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Romanization Question</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I am revising my early opinion. I think that Jay is correct and he went to a valid reference work. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Bes, Heidi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Our instructions for foreign loan words in Hebraica Cataloging are quite clear:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The first sheṿa in a foreign loan word with an initial consonantal cluster is generally treated as a sheṿa naḥ. For correct romanization it is necessary
to consult Even-Shoshan and Alcalay on a case-by-case basis. These initial clusters retain the effect of vowel "heightening"--the sheṿa of the prefixes be-, ke-, and le- becomes a ḥiriḳ: bi-, ki-, li-.</span></i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">ALA-LC Romanization:</span></i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Israel. Lishkah ha-merkazit Ii-sṭaṭisṭiḳah.</span></i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="color:black">ישראל. לשכה המרכזית לסטטיסטיקה</span></i><span dir="LTR"></span><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><span dir="LTR"></span>.</span></i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Universiṭah ha-‘Ivrit bi-Yerushalayim. Makhon li-ḳriminologyah.</span></i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="color:black">אוניברסיטה העברית בירושלים. מכון לקרימינולוגיה</span></i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">but:</span></i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">deramah [cf. Alcalay; translation: drama]</span></i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">A few loan words are also treated as though exempt from the rules governing the aspiration/ non-aspiration of b/v, k/kh, and p/f when preceded by an
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">be-Polin [not: be-Folin] (translation: in Poland)</span></i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Heb-naco
<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank"><heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu></a> on behalf of Jay Rovner
<a href="mailto:JAROVNER@JTSA.EDU" target="_blank"><JAROVNER@JTSA.EDU></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Romanization Question</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I forgot the dictionary tallies of preceding messages. I have only Alcalay, from which I conclude that we are not here
Romanizing a Greek letter. We are, rather, Romanizing a Hebrew word. My Alcalay edition treats
<i>pesefas</i> and <i>deramah</i> as Hebrew vocabulary words, vocalizing the first consonant with a
<i>sheva, </i>which it does not do for <i>psikholog</i>. This is not a question of etymology, but of usage. I think that Israeli speakers pronounce the
<i>sheva</i> of <i>pesafas </i>if only because that helps them accent the final syllable (unfortunately they ignore a lot of other mobile shevas, ones thatwe do -- and do not -- regard in our Romanizing).</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jasmin Shinohara<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 09, 2015 3:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Romanization Question</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="color:black">Agreed, Neil. Barry noted the fact that the Greek word starts with a psi. Does that make any difference to how we want to treat it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On 11/9/2015 3:31 PM, Neil Manel Frau-Cortes wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">… which kind of shows that the issue is not very well solved, IMHO.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Neil M. Frau-Cortes, Ph.D.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Phone <a href="tel:%28301%29%20405-9337" target="_blank">(301) 405-9337</a></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> Heb-naco [<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Yossi Galron<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 09, 2015 3:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Romanization Question</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Heidi,
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I believe our practice was Pesefas and not Psefas.<br>
Yossi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On Nov 9, 2015 3:21 PM, "Heidi G Lerner" <<a href="mailto:lerner@stanford.edu" target="_blank">lerner@stanford.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Based on the conversation I agree with Yosi.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Unless there is strong disagreement we shall romanize <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="color:black">פסיפס</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">as "psefas"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Best, Heidi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Metadata Dept.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Stanford University Libraries<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Stanford, CA 94305-6004<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">ph:
<a href="tel:650-725-9953" target="_blank">650-725-9953</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">fax:
<a href="tel:650-725-1120" target="_blank">650-725-1120</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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on behalf of Yossi Galron <<a href="mailto:jgalron@gmail.com" target="_blank">jgalron@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 9, 2015 12:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Romanization Question</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I wouldn't change our practice.<br>
Just lazy.<br>
Yossi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On Nov 9, 2015 3:11 PM, "sshtuhl" <<a href="mailto:sshtuhl@upenn.edu" target="_blank">sshtuhl@upenn.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Hi all,<br>
We had an interesting discussion about the Romanization of foreign-loan words. Can we get to any agreement about how to Romanize the word
</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="color:black">פסיפס</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><span dir="LTR"></span>?<br>
Thanks,<br>
Smadar<br>
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Hebraica Library Specialist<br>
University of Pennsylvania<br>
Van Pelt-Dietrich Library Center<br>
3420 Walnut Street<br>
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F. <a href="tel:215-573-9610" target="_blank">215-573-9610</a><br>
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