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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Dear Barry, Heidi, and Group,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Judaica catalogers at LC have not always handled materials generated by Messianic Jews/Jews for Jesus/Jewish Christians. However, there are numerous Passover materials from this constituency in the LC database. They are typically classed in BV199.P25 [Passover services (Christian observance) with the subject heading Passover $x Christian observance. If the actual Haggadah text (excluding the rubrics) is the standard Haggadah text, you can add Seder $x Liturgy $v Texts. I recommend following that model.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Aaron T.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+atau=loc.gov@lists.osu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Barry Walfish<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 13, 2015 4:41 PM<br><b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Haggadah for Jewish Christians<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks, Heidi,<br><br>I'll follow your suggestions for now.<br><br>Shanah tovah to you and yours,<br>All the best,<br><br>Barry<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Barry Dov Walfish, Ph.D.<br>Judaica Specialist<br>University of Toronto Libraries <br>Toronto, ON M5S 1A5<br>Canada<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div id=divRpF674784><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Heb-naco [heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu] on behalf of Heidi G Lerner [lerner@stanford.edu]<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2015 11:15 AM<br><b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel (<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>)<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Haggadah for Jewish Christians</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=divtagdefaultwrapper><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi Barry,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I will look forward to LC's response on this issue. I looked for related resources in the bibliographic file and found an LC record for a 1988 book entitled: Siddur for messianic Jews. It appears that LC did not consider this prayer-book a true siddur. The cataloger did not provide a uniform title for this work and entered it under the title proper with a subject heading "Jewish Christianns--Prayerbooks and devotions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>If were to follow this model I would think that entering it under the title proper would be appropriate and using perhaps the following subject headings:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Haggadah--Adaptations<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Jewish Christians--Prayers and devotions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I really don't know if creating a preferred title "Haggadah (Jewish Christians)" is correct or not. This gets into a discussion that I don't feel qualified to enter into.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Best, Heidi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=Signature><div id=divtagdefaultwrapper><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Heidi G. Lerner<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Metadata Dept.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Stanford University Libraries<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Stanford, CA 94305-6004<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ph: 650-725-9953<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>fax: 650-725-1120<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>e-mail: <a href="mailto:lerner@stanford.edu">lerner@stanford.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces+lerner=stanford.edu@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco-bounces+lerner=stanford.edu@lists.osu.edu</a>> on behalf of Barry Walfish <<a href="mailto:barry.walfish@utoronto.ca">barry.walfish@utoronto.ca</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 10, 2015 2:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel (<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>)<br><b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] Haggadah for Jewish Christians</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear Safranim,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I recently catalogued a messianic Haggadah and was surprised that I could not find a proper title for such a work. It was listed under Haggadah in OCLC. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Unless I missed it, I’d like to propose that there be added to the authority file a heading for Haggadah (Jewish-Christian) or something along those lines. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Any thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Barry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Barry Dov Walfish, Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Judaica and Theology Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Collection Development Department and<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thomas Fisher Rare Book Library<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>University of Toronto Library<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>130 St. George St.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Toronto, ON<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Canada M5S 1A5<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>phone: 416-946-3176 or 416-978-4319<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>fax: 416-978-1667 or 416-946-0635<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>e-mail: <a href="mailto:barry.walfish@utoronto.ca">barry.walfish@utoronto.ca</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>