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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bob, etal.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I question whether the descriptor “ha-Rofe”, “ Physician” or any other qualifier in the $c position is necessary or required by an rda instruction because the heading (n  80094757 ) does not conflict with  an identical heading for a different person and because  he is known primarily by the patronymic.  See <a href="http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n80094757/">http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n80094757/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I  recommend the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>n<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>  </span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>move the current 100 heading to a 400 reference position (earlier valid heading) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>n<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>  </span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>formulate the new rda heading as: 100 0 Jacob ben Joseph ben Jawb<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>n<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>  </span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>delete the two 667 fields and re-code the NAR as appropriate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>n<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>  </span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Add any other 670 to support the new formulation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This is my opinion and does not represent the official position of the Library of Congress.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Benjamin Fryser<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+bfry=loc.gov@lists.osu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert M. TALBOTT<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 12, 2014 1:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br><b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] ha-rofe? (Physician)? ha-Rofe? Something else?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi folks:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have a question about capitalization treating an after-name title.  I'd like to get a bit of feedback before stepping off into the abyss.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Anyhow:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'd like to upgrade to RDA the record with the heading Jacob ben Joseph ben Jawb, $c ha-rofe (OCLC AR 475823), but sadly the record is one requiring review before using in an RDA record. Predictably, the rub is how to treat "ha-Rofe." I suppose one could read it as the equivalent of something like "$c (Physician)" though on the surface I'd favor reading it as a title of some sort.  But since the type of title sways the capitalization rules (RDA A.31), what sort of a title is it?  One might very well assume it's a professional title (RDA A.11.5.4), resulting in "$c ha-rofe. " If one squints hard enough, I suppose one of the other options could work, but that's a stretch in my estimation when one looks at the options available in RDA A.11.5.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My concern here is that I may be missing something obvious or otherwise.  Please advise.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bob<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><pre>Bob Talbott<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>UC Berkeley<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>250 Moffitt<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Berkeley, CA 94720<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>We're happy as fish,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>as gorgeous as geese,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>and wonderfully clean in the morning.<o:p></o:p></pre></div></div></div></div></body></html>