<div dir="ltr">Thank you, Joan.<div><br></div><div>B</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Joan Biella <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jbiella2632@gmail.com" target="_blank">jbiella2632@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Bob's question is not answered in RDA, as far as I know, at least as far as Heidi and I knew when we conducted the RDA e-forum earlier this year. Here's what we said:<br>
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<p style="margin:0.1pt 0in"><span style="font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">245/246—<i>Parallel title proper</i> is a Core element
for libraries that adhere to LC or PCC policy. (It is not necessarily a core
element for libraries that do not follow LC-PCC guidelines.)<span> </span>Under AACR2, we transcribed parallel titles
appearing in the same source as the title proper in the 245, following an
equals sign (=).<span> </span>Under RDA we record any
title/all titles matching the definition in the 245, regardless of where they
appear in the resource.<span> </span>In this example,
the “title proper in another language or script” appears on the t.p. verso.<span> </span>So it must appear in the 245.<span> </span>It’s optional to provide a 246 which
identifies where it was found in the resource. The location is provided either
by the first and second indicators or the use of delimiter “i”. Please review
the guidelines for variant title access in LC-PCC PS 2.3.6.3 and the MARC21
Bibliographic Format.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1pt 0in"><span style="font-family:"Arial Unicode MS""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">Parallel other title
information</span></i><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">
is not a Core element.<span> </span>The 245 may be
formulated as:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">‡a
Title proper = ‡b Parallel title : other title information / ‡c statement of
responsibility.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">or
as</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">‡a
Title proper : ‡b other title information = Parallel title : parallel other
title information / ‡c statement of responsibility.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">Additionally
or alternatively, if there is parallel other title information, it may be
included in the 246:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">$a
Parallel title : ‡b parallel other title information</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">Giving
the parallel other title information in both the 245 and the 246 is more
trouble than it’s worth, the judgment of many.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">P.S.
Of course the choice and order of recorded information should be the same in
both the parallel fields.</span></p>
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</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div>Good people of the Heb-NACO-sphere:<div><br></div><div>As
I've been reviewing the draft of the HC RDA, something keeps popping up
with regard to the structure of 245's with parallel titles, to wit:</div>
<div><br></div><div>A. p.43 Emek ha-shaveh = $b Emek hashave : mahzor shirim</div><div><br></div><div>structurally, that's 245##$a [romanized] = $b [parallel $a] : [romanized sub title]</div><div><br></div><div>I've seen this construction before and it has pleased me not one bit, and I doubt that I'm alone. </div>
<div><br></div><div>A formulation that I like much better because it more closely approximates my algebraic approach to cataloging:</div><br clear="all"><div>B 245## Emek ha-shaveh : $b mahzor shirim = Emek hashave* </div>
<div><br></div><div>The Bob-pleasing structure is</div><div><br></div><div>245## [$a romanized] : [$b rom. sub.] = [parallel of $a]* </div><div><br></div><div>My questions:</div><div><br></div><div>1) Is structure A endorsed anywhere in RDA explicitly?</div>
<div><br></div><div>2) Is the choice of structures a matter of cataloger's judgement?</div><div><br></div><div>*I'll have you know that I would shamelessly include the parallel sub-title as well.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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</div><div>B</div><div>-- <br></div><div dir="ltr"><pre cols="72"><font>Bob Talbott</font></pre></div><br></font></span></div></div></div>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><pre cols="72"><font>Bob Talbott</font></pre><pre cols="72"><font>Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger</font></pre><pre cols="72"><font>UC Berkeley</font></pre>
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